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ClayJar #fundie bibleforums.org

Almost everything you described (apart from the audible voice) I went through - actually, I forgot this until I read your story: there was once after a long 3hour debate (we argued Buddhist thinking - which he supports - vs Christianity), he paused and looked at me and said, "It's like you're Married to Jesus Christ." That took me by surprise - he GOT Christianity on some level - human marriage IS a reflection of our first covenant with Jesus.. and I said really quietly, "yes". And he just shook his head and said, "I don't want to marry Jesus." I remember sitting there with tears in my eyes, he was so near and yet so far! The agony was so intense! I mean, I feel sad when I think of friends or family members who are not saved, but that grief was different to this horrible feeling - and I knew it's because I wanted him so badly to be saved, not only for him, but so that I could stay with him. I wanted my way instead of God's way. God was telling me, this is not your job, walk away.

It Was a really dark time - I don't ever want to go back.

I sometimes still feel it in the pit of my stomach when I think about him, and it's what makes me not feel like eating or sleeping or going about life in my normal cheer. And I know it's a spiritual fight inside - but I don't want any more of it. It is getting better, it's not as bad as 2 months ago.

One day at a time. I know one day I'll be ok. :hug:

Thank you.

shawnZshihan #fundie bibleforums.org

Hello Board,

I am currently fasting (Matthew 17:21) to overcome a spirit of adultery - I have not committed it, but I have been getting unwanted advances from women I do not even know (I go down the street to a Taco Bell, and I get bothered by some lady working there). While I was fasting one evening, I saw a spirit that looked like a woman in a blue dress - this spirit has been following me everywhere, and I assume it is the reason for the problems. I told the spirit to leave, but it is stubborn. I felt the Lord tell me to keep fasting and to watch my thought life more - even innocent thoughts can cause problems.

I am under a bit of pressure right now from work/job, and this is making the situation all the more problematic. I don't know if anyone else has ever seen this kind of spirit, but this demon is a light blue color and looks like a woman. I am doing ok right now, but I just wanted some encouragement and any advice you folks might have.

moonglow #fundie bibleforums.org

No one is born gay or bisexual...there is no scientific proof of this. I know that is what the gay community says, but all the research for this has been disproven. In other words you have been lied too. If bisexuals or homosexuals were born this way..why are their ex gays? ex bisexuals?

Diggindeeper #fundie bibleforums.org

Bluerose, I looked at your profile and according to you, you are a Christian. I notice this is your first post. You came to this board and headed straight here to ask about this. So, I'm not going to waste your time or mine. And I'm going to be blunt. I think that's what you need.

Let me say first of all that I don't think anyone is here by accident, you included.

Now, God does not make mistakes. He created man and he created woman. Never, never in His word does he condone or even hint that its fine to be homosexual, or lesbian, or even bisexual. And Sweetie, you and I don't have time to waste like we once did. So bluntly, you were NOT 'just born this way.'

You marked that you are a Christian. Its time to act like it. The days of pretending are over. You don't have the luxury to ponder which sin you want to participate in any longer. I advise that you repent and stop this silly pondering. Don't mock my God again with that "If I marry my boyfriend, in my whole life I will never have even kissed a woman." Christ Jesus did not die that awful death so you can say you are a Christian and come here wanting us to say...what? Do you think a one of us here would advise you to go on with this?

Time is too short. Its time to repent and get your heart right with God. What you need to do is repent and pray and get into that Bible. If you don't have one, there is Bibles right here that you can read. You and that boyfriend need to be praying together and studying the Word together and find a good Bible teaching church for the two of you, whether you end up marrying or not.

Its time to stop this mockery of Almighty God. Here's some scripture for you to think on, rather than the foolish things you have been thinking on:

Romans 1:21-32
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Slug1 #fundie bibleforums.org

Soon as the atheist started talking I'd have to pull out my dictionary to understand some of the words they used... that's why they have a hard time believing in Jesus... cause we need to be like children and just have faith and trust... it's that simple

mcgyver #fundie bibleforums.org

You've got to realize that an atheist's perspective is by definition irrational and not therefore subject to "rational argument".

What I mean is this: Atheism is a universal negative which is a logical contradiction...and to affirm a logical contradiction is irrational...therefore there isn't a thing in the world that you can say from a "human" perspective; because any argument you present will be filtered from a view that has irrationality as its very foundation.

What you can do however is to speak the word of God...let that word do God's work. It has been my experience that people forget what I said...but once they hear the scripture it gets into their head and heart and can really "nag" at them.

Your friend probably gets quite agitated when you start quoting scripture (I've had people come completely un-glued on me)...but that's a good thing...because it tells me that the Holy Spirit is doing His job of bringing conviction to a hard heart.

If that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be so bothered by it, would they?

Raybob #fundie bibleforums.org

Therein lies the problem. You obviously spend much time in fantasy (TV, movies). If you spent half as much time in reading the bible as you spent watching fantasy, I don't think you'd have these ideas about aliens and such. Earth is the only planet in the world that can support life. Even NASA will tell you water is not found anywhere in space other than planet earth. No life can live without water.

Prufrock #conspiracy bibleforums.org

Posted in response to a question on Pokemon and Baukugon.
What would worry me are not the games themselves, but feeding your child's interest and involvement in the whole anime genre. It leads (and is designed to lead) to a lifelong preoccupation with Japanese cartoon culture, which is totally amoral. Eventually (and sometimes it doesn't take very long), this leads to preoccupation with manga and hentai, which are aimed at older kids, and which often involve the vilest pornography imaginable, including cartoon child pornography, which is enormously popular in Japan. Even in the "mainstream" anime world, the occult and, very specifically, homosexuality are treated as normal, acceptable parts of life.

Joe King #fundie bibleforums.org

So mankind has been around 100,000 years and only now we have the internet. The arrogance of the secular scientist is astounding. Talk about picking and choosing. Everything magically popped out of nothing and is billions of years old, but mankind chose to evolve 100,000 years ago.

David Taylor #fundie bibleforums.org

Old Earther:
How is unending torment in the best interest of a human being?

David Taylor:
This question implies that the alternative to unending torment, (Universalism or Annihilationism) is in the best interest of a human being over the concept of unending torment.

markinro #fundie bibleforums.org

To clarify, the christian perspective is not about disproving evolution. I'm sure you have read this.

GEN 1: In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth

It is quite the opposite, evolution is about disproving creation and therefore disproving the existence of God.

moonglow #fundie bibleforums.org

"I will pray that more information on the vaccine is available soon and the issue can be resolved. At this point I imagine many people are stuck between a rock and a hard place - the fear of possible unknown side-effects and the fear of cervical cancer, which, although it is not one of the worst cancers, only about 35% survive it. Hopefully the truth will be revealed to us soon and the vaccine can eventually be made safe and available for those who want it"

Well of course the bibical response is if we follow what God says to do and wait to have sex until marriage this wouldn't even be an issue. This cancer is caused by a STD. God made these 'rules' to keep us safe because He loves us..instead people see Him has being a 'killjoy' and don't do what He says thinking we know more then Him. And look where that got us!

Of course sadly, women and girls get raped and can get it that way too. (again people not following His Word) I just wish they would make safer vaccines! Seems like they rush to get things out before they are fully tested...

az6055 #fundie bibleforums.org

I got hands laid on me by a minister and church and I felt a power like a lightning bolt kind of. It sunk into my head and I wondered has anybody else felt this.... and is this God's power. I know it sound like a silly question but I need to know.

I was sitting in my chair and the lady went to get some oil and she put it on my head and laid hands on me because demons spirits was telling me to kill myself and they wanted me to speak against God but I wouldn't do it. then I felt something shout through my head like a power or something. I also kept speaking in tongues and I'm starting to feel a lot better. My mind has calmed down a whole lot and I had a spirit crushing my skull and it lifted off of me a few days latter.

ron brown #fundie bibleforums.org

"A friend of ours discovered at 3 months pregnant that her child had only 2 champers in her heart. Therefore an abortion happened. What does this mean to GOD and our friends?

The baby would of never survived if the pregnancy went on."

Only God knows for sure if the baby would have lived or died, God could have healed the child in it's mothers womb if it was his will. It's not up to man to decide if an unborn baby lives or dies, it's up to God to decide.

Your friends can be forgiven for killing their unborn child if they accept Christ as their Lord and savior. Pray that they do.

keck553 #fundie bibleforums.org

I seriously think atheism is a religion. They practice it with religious dogma. Atheists reject God. It's rebellion. One has to have something to rebel against, yes? All atheists I have met are angry people who can not reconcile that the circumstances that cause thier pain is caused by thier sin or the sins of others. Many are victims of false religious teaching and abuse ("you make proselytes twice as fit for hell"). It should be evident that what they are missing is the truth - the shalom of the Gospel of Jesus

RJ Mac #fundie bibleforums.org

No there is no extra-terrestrial life out there when one believes in the Bible.
God created the world in 6 days, stars and planets on day four and their
purpose was to mark the seasons. The world is only 10,000 yrs old, tops.
Life did not evolve over billions of years, therefore there was no time for
life to evolve on other planets and God gave life.

Come judgment day the entire universe will be rolled up like a scroll and
melt away. In one day, everything will be gone. Did Jesus go and start
life on another planet, did He die on another planet, is not one messed
up creation not enough for God to deal with? Come judgment day all those
other people will be judged with us? Or just perish?

I believe in a young earth, this planet is the center of the universe, not
physically speaking but spiritually, when its time for this planet to be gone
everything else goes at the same time. God has His hands full with us,
it took Him just a day to make the moon and the stars, He rested on the
7th, then went to work on what its all created for - Man - He is still
working on me, because I'm created in His image.

Other life forms, no way, a dreamers escape. But here's one for you
Mr. Spock! Christians are the only hope for life anyone on this planet has,
for one day it is going to disappear and the only ones who will survive
are those who have a relationship with God. We are mankind's only and last
hope. And when judgment day happens, mankind will not get any bigger
our numbers will be sealed, we will only grow wiser with Christ.

Jody Foster said, If we are the only ones in this entire universe, what a
waste of space. But I say to Jody, the creation we see shows us how
God loved us, by giving all this to only us.

RJ

Buck shot and Rebel777 #fundie bibleforums.org

Fundie 1: Hence the saying "a little knowledge leads one away from God and a lot of knowledge leads one to God]

I got in trouble for the same thing! What can go bang without a fuel and heat source?

Fundie 2: And IMO bangs destroy and kill, never seen explosions create anything other than destruction.

Mograce2U #fundie bibleforums.org

The theory of evolution's greatest enemy is death. They hope to explain life, but I would like to hear them address the reason for death! Now where - outside of the bible, are they going to find evidence that any have lived beyond the 70 or so years we seem to have? And where in those 70 years has anyone seen this spontaneous eruption of some evolved attribute which we do not yet have? Except in butterflies that is... which always seem to come forth in a predictable manner.

ikester7579 #fundie bibleforums.org

All elements in the universe (periodic table) get their properties based on their combinations of 3 specific sub-atomic components. Protons, Neutrons, & Electrons. No element has the same combination. (ie...Gold has 79 protons, 118 neutrons, 79 electrons)Carbon (man) has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons. [666]. This will be the number in which the Anti-Christ will be identified by. And because a clone does not have working sexual organs, this explains why a "cloned" Anti-Christ will not have need for a woman.

How do you think this was written in God's word about the anti-Christ being a man that his number will be 666? When the knowledge of protons, neutrons, and electrons was not even known? It is because the word was written just like God said. It was inspired by God, to where man could write it without flaw. And the knowledge was God knowledge, not the knowledge of man.

mmcneese #fundie bibleforums.org

My name is Matt McNeese. In March 2002 I was arrested for "the largest identity theft case in U.S. history". I spent 4 months incarcerated while spending time in a county jail, federal prison hospital and a detention center in Brooklyn, New York.

Through an incredible turn of events God spared me from the 45 years of prison time I was facing. He gave me 3 years probation instead.

My testimony shows how a Christian turned his back on God completely and the consequences that followed. However, God sat me down in a jail cell and gave me another chance.

the J Man #fundie bibleforums.org

[Wow... I took a look at that site [FSTDT.com, ed.]... people like that make me MAD!]

Don't let it get you mad. It shows that there are devout christians on the net who are making a difference. The devil is mad. If the devil is mad, then we've have made a difference. So far there has been 29 submissions from Bibleforums. So we know the Lord is doing a work at Bibleforums.

armistead14 #fundie bibleforums.org

What came first, the chicken or the egg. Well, obviously the egg can't create itself, but the first chicken had to come from an egg.

This old saying, actually proves God without doubt..Nothing can be created, without a creator. God created the chicken...first.
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WhisperingGrace #fundie bibleforums.org

[If the Bible said the sky was green, would you accept that or would or assume somehow your interpretation of the Bible was wrong?]

I would wake up every day and thank God for His beautiful green sky.

You are attempting to naturalize a supernatural God. The Bible says the wisdom of man is foolisness to God. I assume God knows far better what color the sky is than fallible, imperfect men do.

Faith44 #fundie bibleforums.org

God creates Earth, Man, Animals, etc. in one week. Yet the Book makes no mention of the dinosaurs. Perhaps they could be included under the classification of animals, but even if that is true there is still a problem. From what we can tell, dinosaurs existed 230 million years ago, while humans have only existed for 200,000 years. So how could both have been created in the same week?

Here are some possible explanations I have come up with. I don't necessarily believe these either, but they would fix things.

1. Satan created the fossils to cause controversy over the Bible's credibility.

2. The fossils are actually no more than bone like rocks.

3. A week span during the creation of Earth was much longer than what we now record as a week. For example, perhaps each day then would be equal to 32 million years by how we measure time and after that, days became the length they are today.

4. Scientists who study fossils are wrong in their calculations and the dinosaur fossils are indeed no older than human fossils.

So what do you guys think?

teshuva #fundie bibleforums.org

The origin of life is a matter of history; history can only beknown by eyewitness accounts. The Bible is the recorded eyewitness account provided by the Architect of the universe, the Creator of all life.
The Bible isn't in conflict with observable science but is consistent with it. It's the history book of the universe. It thells us about the origin of life and the origin of death. Since we all eventually will face death, the answers in the Bible, authored by the Creator, should be of prime interest.

Is there any explosion that produces order? Does a terrorist bomb create harmony? Big bangs cause chaos. How could a Big Bang produce a rose, apple trees, fish, sunsets, the seasons, hummingbirds, birds, animals, trees, all with their own eyes, nose and mouth?

Prodigal Daughter #fundie bibleforums.org

"Di Vinci studied in anatomy in secrecy. The church was in charge of it in his day, so he would sneak corpses into his quarters and disect them at night. When he completed his research, he determined that God did not exist in the human body as the church claimed He did. In fact, after seeing what all he did, Leonardo found disbelief in God. However, from seeing how delicate the heart is, but also how precise, and the fact that it works on its own, I don't see how someone couldn't see God in that"

Theophilus #fundie bibleforums.org

What were God's intentions in punishing Job? Well, first of all, God wasn't inflicting the punishment...Satan was. However, if you'll notice, Job was sitting pretty until God mentioned him to Satan...and then the problems for Job began.

Okay, God didn't punish Job, but He allowed Satan to.

Satan isn't omniscient, so he may not have even been aware of Job...but since God brought up Job as an example of a righteous man, He opened Job up for the events that unfolded.

Sounds like God is pretty mean, huh?

...but, He isn't. God is omniscient, and He knew the end result: Job's restoration. So, what does the book of Job tell us, then? Why include it in the Bible at all?

dabilljon #fundie bibleforums.org

And, yes, there were unicorns in the middle east before Christ's advent. But what the unicorn is is still up to debate. I don't think its a wild ox like the new versions footnotes say but rather perhaps a distinct species like a large rhinoceros or (as Kent Hovind proposes) a triceratops or one of its kind of family.

ikester7579 #fundie bibleforums.org

[I have passed out Chick tracts for the longest time and love the fact that people read them. However, some of my friends, family, and acquaintances despise them. What are your takes on these tracts in comic cartoon form?]

Chick tracts hit sinners right between the eyes with their sin. It also hits the saved right between the eyes with their sin. Those who do not want to conform to God's will, will always despise them.

Question: If they bring people to salvation, who else despises them? Satan.