Fraser Anning #fundie

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New Zealand Mosque Shooting

Speaking following reports of multiple shootings at two Mosques in New Zealand earlier today, Senator Fraser Anning has responded with strong condemnation.

'I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community, and I totally condemn the actions of the gunman,' he said.

'However, whilst this kind of violent vigilantism can never be justified, what it highlights is the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand, of the increasing Muslim presence.

'As always, left-wing politicians and the media will rush to claim that the causes of today's shootings lie with gun laws or those who hold nationalist views but this is all cliched nonsense.

'The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.

'Let us be clear, while Muslims may have been the victims today, usually they are the perpetrators. World-wide, Muslims are killing people in the name of their faith on an industrial scale.

'The entire religion of Islam is simply the violent ideology of a sixth century despot masquerading as a religious leader, which justifies endless war against anyone who opposes it and calls for the murder of unbelievers and apostates.

'The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism. And just because the followers of this savage belief were not the killers in this instance, does not make them blameless.

'As we read in Matthew 26:52, 'all they that take the sword, shall perish by the sword' and those who follow a violent religion that calls on them to murder us, cannot be too surprised when someone takes them at their word and responds in kind,' Senator Anning concluded.

33 comments

old comment by Anon-e-moose

the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand, of the increasing Muslim presence

The amount of Islameist activity in New Zealand: Zero. Fact: Muslims have existed in the US since the mid-19th Century.

Careful: Your racism is showing.

You've certainly exposed your attitudes: which have absolutely no basis, as proved by the fact that this first terrorist atrocity in New Zealand was by not only a white man: but one not born in - least of all a citizen of - that country.

As we read in Matthew 7:1: 'Judge not, lest ye be judged'.

The evidence about you has been presented. The prosecution rests: and not just concerning this white terrorist.

He's condemned himself via his own livestreamed actions: He's a Nazi. As have you: out of your own mouth: You're a fundie bigot.

J'accuse.

old comment by Raspberry

@Blair

Yeah, I'm of two minds on this but can't help but to think "good for the kid" and laugh.

I mean, technically the kid only slapped him with an egg, intending not to harm but to embarrass that asshole, but on the other hand it is assault.

When I see that authorities have declined to charge the kid, one assumes that's mostly because he got assaulted times ten with respect to his own actions and personally the local authorities are/were offering a wink and a nod to the kid. What bothers me a bit is the call for Anning's arrest by higher ups while at the same time giving the kid, a minor, a complete pass. I'm fine with Anning getting arrested for swatting the kid twice (and especially that asshole who was kicking the kid when he was pinned down by others) but then the kid shouldn't get a pass. Perhaps a light slap on the wrist like probation or some shit appropriate for a young kid's stunt, IMO, just out of fairness.

In the end I'm ok with how everything played out because the kid is ok and says he's re-donating the funds that were donated online to help him with a defense to the victims of the shootings. And I'm very ok with laughing at that asshole who is going to be out of a government job, as I understand it, when elections roll around again in a couple of months.

Having said all that, we are in the weirdest most disturbing timeline and I'm about done with all this shit.

(edit: and apologies if I was expounding on just the egging and its outcome when you might have meant how do we react to the general event. I'm fresh off "conversations" with some people who are feigning outrage that the kid wasn't arrested and charged and that everyone is laughing about it. womp womp)

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I'm quite okay with people egging people like this. It's an ultimately harmless maneuver that gives arguments like this exactly the respect they deserve.

Not all statements are worthy of counter-arguments. Some are so horrendous, so heinous, that they can only be responded to with a "That's so fucking wrong that I refuse to legitimize it - fuck you."

Or an action equivalent to it. Such as smashing an egg over his head.

To be fair I also support punching nazis as long as the puncher is willing to face the legal consequences of such, in so far as the charges don't get trumped up as an intimidation tactic to silence further dissent.

Though I also believe anyone punching anyone spouting hate speech should get a reduced sentence or a slap on the wrist due to "Fighting Words", if not outright self defense.

old comment by Swede

What do the Maoris and the Aborigines say about the increasing presence of Christian whities?

Yup, the cause of the shooting was a group of nationalists ready to do mass-murder.

So, you're against freedom of religion?

No, the Muslims are usually the victims, that's why they are migrating to safer areas. Islamists kill other Muslims in the name of their "faith", just like Christians did to each other in the Troubles, and during the Dark Ages, etc.

Christianity is the violent ideology of about 6000 years of despots masquerading as religious leaders, which justifies endless wars against anyone who opposes it.

The truth is that Islam is just a couple of centuries behind Christianity. When Christianity was burning books and destroying temples, Islam was preserving it. Now it's the other way around.

old comment by Zinnia

For people who are fine with the egging and maybe even encourage it a little, and those who are more conflicted, I have to say: You're kind of both right, and this is an issue with no good solutions.

Attempting to be mature, restrained adults about subject like this gives one the moral high ground, but comes with a big drawback - it validates the views of the views of terrible people in the minds of fence-sitters, overly cautious self-centered neutrals, and "very serious and super logickal¹" people. Yes, I know, there shoudln't be fence-sitters for something like this, but... humans. Group #1 saying "We want to live" and group #2 saying "we want group #1 to die" become options of equal weight, and maybe a compromise where group #2 only gets to beat them half dead is in order? It just leads to no real resolution, wherein the bad guys effectively get an equal say on the subject, even if they're a small minority - and they *are* a small minority, so this gives them political power far beyond their numbers.

¹Not actually able to logic their way out of a wet paper bag, but they don't know that.

Giving their views all the seriousness it deserves isn't necessarily better. Eventually some of them will respond with all the seriousness they think their opponents deserve, which is an acid attack, or a spiked bat bashing, or stomping someone's head into the pavement. The particular individuals will be appropriately punished, of course, but this just leads to (relatively) minor losses on both sides. And bizarrely, insults and juvenile pranks will be portrayed as "just as bad" as violent attacks, and this will actually fly in some very influential circles. Is it really worth the risk of sacrificing good people and the occasional uninvolved innocent, on top of whatever damage they're already doing, for some minimal damage to their reputation?

They *can* be weakened slowly, over time, using long term strategies... and they are, which is why they're currently struggling to regain ground. But in the short run, they cannot be ignored, must be responded to, and there is no good or safe way to do this. In the end, one can only act as their conscience and principles dictate, and hope for the best.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

A video to watch eggain and eggain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrqJJxZLZV8

The Shelldenfreude is eggsquisite!

The sight of this subhuman humilayted just cracks me up!

Suffering from shell shock, much?!

We shell proceed to shellebrate!

The yolk is on you: an eggspress delivery!

'I Am The Eggman' is a track on his new albumen!

Eggsperiencing an eggsistential crisis?!

I bet you took great eggception to this, eh?!

Like Humpty Drumphty since the midterms, your eggo saw a downward trend.

(*Sings*):

'Endure yourself
It's laider than you think!'

You'd best take Shellsa's advice and 'Omelette it go'!

Your quote? Your eggument is invalaid.

Now make like a chicken and cluck off!

X3

old comment by Titania

Oh, so those victims were asking for it, were they, Obergruppenfuhrer Eierkopf? That's nice to know, Arschgeiger.

Meet my friend:
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"I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community..." Well, that's really nice to know, Eierkopf. How about the way you hit a teenage boy? Then, your bovver boys, got him in a stranglehold, 5 on 1. Brave souls, you neo-Nazis. {My sarcasm would do more damage to the paint, than chucking a crate of eggs.}

HOWEVER, one thing you can't erase is the humiliation...which is what that young bloke gave you lot! Now everybody's laughing at you, worldwide!

As for EggBoy, he is a beaut little Aussie larrikin! Good on ya, son, for showing the world that we Kangaroos don't agree with these racist, bigoted dingbats! GO EGGBOY!!!