Dr. Nicolosi, a noted psychologist who works with homosexuals said he has never met a homosexual man who has had a good relationship with his father. Homosexual men are simply looking for the love (in the good non-sexual meaning of the word) that they never obtained growing up. The same with lesbians in regards to their moms.
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"Dr. Nicolosi, a noted psychologist who works with homosexuals said he has never met a homosexual man who has had a good relationship with his father."
This could be said for a good portion of heterosexual men, too. It also doesn't explain bi-sexual men, nor lesbians.
"Dr." Nicolosi is thus not doing anything but providing his obvious bias in place of a professionally researched and scientifically supported opinion of a phenomenon, which means that "Dr." Nicolosi can be safely ignored.
"Homosexual men are simply looking for the love (in the good non-sexual meaning of the word) that they never obtained growing up."
Which, again, could be applied (probably incorrectly) to anyone in a similar situation. Why single out homosexual men?
"The same with lesbians in regards to their moms."
I'm really not sure where this idea comes from, but I am sure that it's not supported by any sort of factual data. It sounds like not much more then pop psychology some religious nut with a fake degree came up with to sell books and seminars, and it just took off from there because it "sounds reasonable" to your average fundy idiot.
I'm gay, and I have a great relationship with both my parents. In fact it is far better than most I've seen. The love I have for my boyfriend has nothing to do with feeling neglected by my dad. Just the other day, he said he feels his purpose in life was to bring me into this world. I highly doubt your father could ever find such respect and admiration for you.
In fact his resume say that he graduated from the New School for Social Research , a progressive-leaning college in New York, and, then, obtained his PhD from the California School of Professional Psychology.
Given that he's Catholic, he couldn't obtain his diplom from Bob Jones or Pensacola Christian Colleges, given that they think that the Pope is the Anti-christ.
If we assume that his resume is false, his diploms come maybe from a shitty college created by the Society of Saint Pius X, which includes the "bishop" and "historian" Williamson.
"Dr. Nicolosi, a noted psychologist . . ."
He's noted for falsifying data in his papers. Also for his bigotry and hatred.
And the America Psychological Association somehow managed to miss that glaring correlation?
It's amazing how fundies find simple explanations for things that all the experts miss isn't it?
And they accuse us of being arrogant?
@Ebon
"If this man was a doctor, he'd know that homosexuality was conclusively proven to be biological over four years ago."
I don't think that's the case. There is general agreement that it's not something that is chosen but the exact cause is still open to debate. I'd say "conclusively proven" is a bit strong. Outside the realm of mathematics, it's almost impossible for something to be "conclusively proven."
Well, my lesbian friend seems to have a pretty solid relationship with her mom, and my straight self never got along with my dad, so I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit.
What, does this shitpump think every bisexual underwent parental divorce?
I take it your Dr. Nicolosi has only ever met gay men from deeply religious or conservative families that terrorise their children if they don't turn out 'normal' or acceptable to their lifestyle and 'moral' standards. Coming out of the closet tends to make those kind of parents flip the hell out. Gay or not if they went to a psychologist in the first place then its a fair bet they have issues, which many shrinks have an obsession with pinning on parents as a matter of course. Maybe they are the ones unresolved Daddy issues?
"Dr. Nicolosi, a noted psychologist who works with homosexuals said he has never met a homosexual man who has had a good relationship with his father."
Assuming for one second that he genuinely believes that, did it ever cross your mind that this might be due to the fact that the homosexual men he's familiar with are the ones who have been brainwashed by fundie parents into believing that their sexual orientation is something to be "fixed"? Do you seriously expect them to have a good relationship with parents who call them abominations to their faces?
Of course, considering that, as a peddler of "conversion therapy", Nicolosi has a vested ideological and business interest in getting people to believe that homosexuality is a problem, his sincerity would already strike me as highly questionable, even without Mister Spak saying that the cunt is known for falsifying data...
a noted psychologist who works with homosexuals
So maybe gays who had good relationships with their fathers don't need to visit a psychologist?
Ever thought of that?
How many people who visit psychologists do so because of bad relationships with their parents? 99% or 100%?
At least gay men won't have an Oedipus Complex.
Btw, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi works with the "National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality". That association believes that homosexuality is a chosen desire and thus "curable".
People who go to psychologists tend to have some kind of psychological problem. Maybe Dr Nicolosi needs to leave his practice once in a while, and meet people who don't go to psychologists...
At least Thomas seems to accept that gay people love as straight people do, that it's not just lust and sex.
Making statements like this is stupid, because all it takes is one example of a gay man who had a good paternal relationship to collapse your entire "theory".
This reminds me of my mom saying that all the lesbians she saw in her practice had something wrong with their brains, and I reminded her that she is a neurologist, and EVERYONE she sees in her practice has something wrong with their brain.
"Dr. Nicolosi, a noted psychologist who works with homosexuals"
So Doctor, when did you first notice your obsession with homosexuals?
"Dr. Nicolosi, a noted psychologist who works with homosexuals"
So Doctor, when did you first notice your obsession with homosexuals?
This is almost as good as the theory that all lesbians just have (literal) penis envy.
My relationship with my mom was quite good, thank you. In fact, it was my father who was literally absent my whole life. How exactly does that factor into my lesbianism?
I'm bi and I didn't have a good relationship with either parent, but my grandparents raised me very lovingly. My wife is bi and very close with her parents. Care to explain that, doc?
@Scelerata: Um, well, you... Got it! You resent your father, and now you hate all men (OBVIOUSLY), so you're gay. It can work both ways, you see.
Somehow, that bullshit flies just as well as the "Doctor's". I just hope he doesn't use it now.
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