Evolutionists will try to lead you into endless debate, and they will more often than not succeed! They will always, almost without exception, get the last word. They will be relentless. This is all part of getting you to waste your time, which the spiritual enemy just loves to see you do (the evolutionist person does not necessarily “love” that they waste your time, many are probably unaware of the demonic influence on them).
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Evolutionists will try to lead you into endless debate...
Well, I suppose it makes a change from the Creationist's usual whinge that scientists won't debate with them.
I dunno, arguing with you to "waste your time" seems like a colossal waste of time for the "evolutionist" too
Or hand you a piece of paper with "read the other side" printed on both sides. That would keep you busy for awhile
"Gee, all the intelligent people seem to be on the side of evolution. Spouting bible verses and erecting straw-men does nothing to convince them of the error of their ways. Could it be that science really is on their side?
Or, could it be...Satan?"
Creationists will try to lead you into endless debate, and they will more often than not succeed! They will always, almost without exception, get the last word. They will be relentless. This is all part of getting you to waste your time, which the scientifically illiterate just loves to see you do (the creationist person does not necessarily “love” that they waste your time, many are probably unaware of their own stupidity).
Fixed.
The debate shouldn't be endless. You should take one look at ERVs and human chromosome 2 and say "Oh, I guess that's pretty solid evidence". But no. Last time I debated I couldn't even get creationists to admit that the development of the gene for nylonase (a brand new gene built from a frameshift mutation of a gene duplication which allows bacteria to eat a SYNTHETIC substance thus showing that it has to be new and the same mutation was observed in a lab when microbes were put into a nylon-rich environment) was new information. Even when I gave them an out by telling them they could say Jesus personally came down and performed the mutation. Nope. They still wouldn't agree that a brand fucking new gene is new information. THAT'S the level of denial we're working with here and why debates take forever. We can't even agree on the meaning of words. Let alone the evidence.
Yeah, those pesky "evolutionists", with their solid evidence, reasoned arguments and lack of fallacies. Damn them!
Yes, you've discovered my years-in-the-making ultimate, diabolical, neferious plan of action: to waste your time.
Bwhahahaha. ha.
ha.
In my experience, it is the creationist who will waste your time, posting long lists of "facts" that attempt to poke holes in the age of the earth and evolution. While you're spending your energy attempting to answer each one, he's rubbing his hands together in delight at you.
Let me get this straight: you're the one who goes looking to debate cold, hard scientific facts that have been both well established and vetted by individuals far more learned and intelligent than yourself (and let's be clear -- for the sake of debate at a non-academic level such as this an appeal to authority is not fallacious when the individual in question is actually a recognized authority, and an appeal to consensus is not a fallacy when the consensus consists of established authorities) and you have the utter gall to accuse others of seeking to waste YOUR time?
Please pull your head out of your ass before you do yourself even more serious harm.
Watching these guys debate is just sad.
William Gladstone said it better than I can: "Men are apt to mistake the strength of their feeling for the strength of their argument. The heated mind resents the chill touch and relentless scrutiny of logic."
There's just nothing sporting in engaging in a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent.
"Evolutionists will try to lead you into endless debate, and they will more often than not succeed!"
That's because you are incapable of rational debate. The position you hold is superstitious nonsense and willful ignorance.
Mulling over this again, I have to admit that the parenthetical remark is a step in the right direction for these people. At least he realizes that the problem is not the evolutionist, which most creationists simply don't seem to get. Even though his explanation is pretty faulty, I think it's at least better than the typical creationist ad hominem.
I'm sorry if it sounds too defensive of Fred Williams, I'm just trying to find his "stopped clock" moment so as to preserve my faith in humanity.
John_in_Oz
How did the demons evolve?"
The concept of demons evolved from very early in humankind’s religious stirrings. Humans assumed invisible humanlike creatures were responsible for changes in nature and humankind’s fortunes. They were merged with the notion of Satan that helped humankind understand why suffering existed in the world. It couldn’t come from God, so it must come from an anti-God. That took the blame off of God. Together, the demons and Satan ruled the underworld (when the composition of the earth wasn’t understood and it was believed an “under” world could exist).
"This is all part of getting you to waste your time,..."
Surely that began at a very early age, the moment the adults responsible for your upbringing started turning you into a moron?
They will always, almost without exception, get the last word.
What do you expect? It's not like you've got any valid come back when they pull the Reality card on you...
demonic influence
Ah, the Insanity card...
The endless debate originates from the fact that "evolutionists" take a piece of wire and bend it to describe and illustrate things to the uneducated. Who in return stretch the wire back straight and scream: "YOU CANT BEND A WIRE!!!"
So to a certain point i agree with him: it's a total waste of time.
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