[The comment is in response to this: "Do babies go to hell? I mean if any sin no matter how small is worthy of infinite torture, is God torturing babies for grabbing candy from other baby? Toddlers can lie and steal. Does God have a tiny torture chamber for them?"]
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Wait, this actually makes Catholics sound good, they have the age of accountability... Before that, you're too young to know you sinned. Babies always go straight to heaven.
So the baby who dies soon after birth is in Hell? A newborn infant cannot grasp the understanding of your religion, cannot repent of any alleged sins, and cannot obtain salvation, and must be doomed to Hell. This is a fair and just God? I don't think so. God didn't think this part through, did He?
Does God have a tiny torture chamber for them?
Hell, no! The little sinners have to go into the general population with the rest of us atheists, scientists and liberals. That's why they call it hell! Bwaaahhahahahahaha
What a vile beast you worship, eternally tormenting infants because it chose to take offense at something their imaginary ancestors supposedly did. How could you ever call such a monster "good?" Or do you just wish such behavior could be deemed good, to justify your own rabid impulses?
Most Christian sects admit there's no biblical evidence that babies don't go to hell. Even Catholics believe babies go to hell if they aren't baptized, and aren't so sure they don't even if they are (He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned - Mk 16:16). Most of the major Christian sects, with the exception of Baptists, baptize at birth, rather than waiting until they're old enough to make their own choice, just in case.
Sorry John, but the Catholic belief that unbaptised babies go to hell died in the twelfth century. From then until very recently, they were in limbus, a kind of no-man's-land where souls of unbaptised kids went. And now, they say that, thanks to God's grace, they go to Heaven anyway. You see, not even at that stage they'll see Satan.
Sorry, Chris, for an action to be a sin, the person has to commit it with the knowledge the action is a sin.
Why not let's just put a stop to all this. Let's call it as it is. The God of the Fundies is hateful, nasty, unloving, demanding, vicious, unjust, unreasonable, etc. Nobdy with an ounce of goodness and decency would, or could accept him/her/it. Only stupid people who are prepared - and want - to be led (misled) by the nose, and won't accept personal responsibility for what to believe could take on the fundie version of Deity.
Thousands of babies crying while being tortured sure would be my idea of hell.
Your god sucks, he sucks hard and he sucks often
#701977 wrote:
"Sorry John, but the Catholic belief that unbaptised babies go to hell died in the twelfth century. From then until very recently, they were in limbus, a kind of no-man's-land where souls of unbaptised kids went. And now, they say that, thanks to God's grace, they go to Heaven anyway. You see, not even at that stage they'll see Satan." That goes against every paraphrasing of the Catholic canon I've ever heard.
Catholics have always believed that unbaptized babies go to hell. In Dante's Inferno , he divided Hell into layers (or "circles"), with the unbaptized going in the outermost circle. The conditions in this outermost circle weren't painful, merely "forlorn". Later generations spun off this first circle of Hell into a separate realm called "Limbo", which the Roman Catholic Church never officially recognized. In the 20th century, the RCC officially denounced the notion of Limbo.
It's Fundamentalist Protestants that invented the whole Age of Accountability thing.
I'm at a total loss how anyone could believe in and worship the evil bastard these people see God to be.
I'm religious, but their version of God makes me want to start bitch-slapping the lot of them for misrepresenting God.
And yet, in spite of this careless tone, coldly condemning infants to hell, he's more than happy to jump on the pro-life pedestal.
Disturbing though this is, it is biblically accurate. I think the moral here is that God, well, is a total douche bag.
Nice. Now if humans remain the way they were the moment they died, hell must be awesome. Full of deformed, asphyxiating babies, being tortured even more because they never had the chance to hear about the gaspel.
this is one of several reason why I don't like Christianity.
At least most Christians have the decency to recognize that sending babies to eternal torture is horrific and try to weasel around their own doctrine. This guy, however, is a shithead.
Good, good.
You know, you should think about this. Think about infants and small children shrieking out their sanity, in unimaginable pain as they burn alive forever with God merely watching, completely disinterested in them.
Let that image slink around in your head for a while. Let it really sink in. You believe that your God made this, right? That your God did this, made it possible, and it's good. The eternal, infinite torture of infants and small children is a good thing , because God doesn't recognize or care about human concepts such as "innocence" or "making the punishment fit the crime," because all crimes are equally infinite in his eyes. The Hell he created is full of screaming, suffering children, the Heaven he created is full of people who tortured other people to death in his name in life, he plans to burn the world to death, and your fondest wish is to be locked up for eternity with the entity that made it all happen. Because you believe that He made sure that this is the only other alternative, and that your only other choice is torture until time itself ends.
You need to let it roll around in your brain for a while. Really embrace the concept.
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