[advice for medical depression]
Anyone going through depression, if you practice these principles, it will help you tremendously.
1. Focus your attention on Jesus.
2. Allow God to be first in your life.
3. Immerse yourself in the Word of God.
4. Tell the devil and his demon spirits to flee in the name of Jesus.
5. Have fellowship with strong believers.
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Great advice, if you want to be a fundamentalist Christian AND depressed.
Since I suffered from schizophrenia some time ago, I'm appalled by this suggestion. Luckily, my family was fairly secular, if inexperienced with this sort of problem, so they went to a doctor first. If my parents had been religious, they may have taken YOUR advice, and I wouldn't be posting this. As an aside, before treatment, my symptoms were very similar to religious beliefs, although they didn't fall into any widely-practiced religion. If they had, it would have made a diagnosis very difficult. (I have only one semester of psychology, so I'm no expert, but I was wondering how they distinguish between "mental illness" and "religious fundamentalist."
Considering that I have been diagnosed with clinical depression, and am now functioning quite well with appropriate medication, I find this advice utterly appalling. I might not be here today if I had followed this sort of "treatment." This approach sounds to me like holding a drowning person's head underwater.
Coffee -- same here, except that I tried to deal with it on my own in much the way j-man advocates here. The only differences being that I A) knew it wasn't a demon, so I didn't waste time with that and B) pretty much gave up on God because He obviously didn't give a rat's ass that I was so unhappy...
Let me be the next to agree with birdseatbugs, Coffee, and -. When my husband died I was clinically depressed. God had nothing to do with me getting out of it. Truth is, me getting laid did :) (and that's the truth pfffffft)
you know, in that post, he doesn't say not to get mental help, or that doing his suggestions will cure you. He just says they will help. I work in a psychiatric hospital and patients with spiritual support do tend to do much better than those who do not. They can work hand in hand with treatment. This doesn't strike me as a fundie post.
you know, in that post, he doesn't say not to get mental help, or that doing his suggestions will cure you. He just says they will help. I work in a psychiatric hospital and patients with spiritual support do tend to do much better than those who do not. They can work hand in hand with treatment. This doesn't strike me as a fundie post.
6. Ignore steps 1 through 5.
I didn't see that at first...but he's still not saying to not get medical attention, so I don't see a problem.
Hmmm - going back to the source of insanity from the J-man.
RR. He also posted this "testimonial".
I knew a Jehovah's Witness who was very devout, yet often had periodic mental and emotional issues. The JW I knew claimed of being talked to by demons and constantly expressed the fear of hell. Every now and then, that person would visit the mental ward of a hospital. Not going to name names or even reveal gender.
Man, J Man, the Devil and his demon spirits are all that keep me going anymore... I tell them to get lost, I lose the one thing that keeps life interesting.
1. What did Jesus have to say about mental health?
We created the so-called Christian god with our brains. Therefore, that god is in your brain rather than an actual external entity. So, 'he's really the Lord Brain. We also create Satan and demons with our head. Therefore, those are in your head. Worshipping imaginary friends such as Jesus, Buddha, Virgin Mary, Muhammed, etc. fall under the definition of delusions & schizophrenia. Delusions (and also psychotic symptoms) can also occur with depression. Get a neurological repair and get on some various agents (pharmaceutical & natural) instead.
Wow, fantastic.
Of course, if a severely clinically depressed person commits suicide after following your "treatment", do you count that as a success? After all, the person is no longer depressed.
No, it is more likely that you evil bastards would sanctimoniously preach how the patient's faith wasn't strong enough. No doubt you think that the poor guy is deservedly roasting in hell. Nice god, who inflicts depression on a person--a living hell-- and then tosses him into eternal torture when he can't stand it anymore.
I am not depressed, but if I started hanging out with a bunch of batshit nutjobs obsessing about the end times, I might be. Who wouldn't? I can only imagine what that kind of a crowd would do to a person who was depressed to start with.
So explain why everyone at Rapture Ready are so miserable.
And add me to the list of those who's clinical depression was successfully managed with medication.
Although my depression was also lifted the day I quit organized religion for good.
Oh yes. "Tell the devil to flee in the name of Jesus" - that will cure anything.
Please don't dispense medical advice without a licence, or indeed even a fucking clue about the nature of the problem you are "advising" on. Some poor sod might actually believe you and make things even worse for him/herself.
Typical of fundies- prayer is better than therapy, don't face your issues, just ignore, suppress, and deny them. This is also called "faith".
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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