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Now, off topic. How did food happen to evolve at the same time man did? And, why doesn't food change, after these millions of years to something not food so it won't get destroyed every day by hungry people and animals? Natural selection doesn't seem to handle that too well.

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old comment by Sadhuman

Wow that is a whole bunch of stupid. Go look up some facts man, look in some books do some learning. Some plants evolved to use being eaten as a method of reproduction and plants came before man. (Hint dinosaurs also came before man and they ate things too) Some vegetables have a bitter taste at times, that is part of the plants defence stratagem, it tastes bad so animals avoid it.

And animals, well they try pretty damn hard not to be on the table. Go kill a wild animal with your bare hands, doesn't work out to well huh. Humans evolved brains till we got to the point that we had tools not much animals can do against that...but then for a kicker we evolved some more and got smart enough to tame the animals then eat the nice easy non running away variety.

You know nothing about evolution or the world outside of the comfort zone some humans live in, get out there and see the real world and learn some stuff.

old comment by capello moderno

How did food happen to evolve at the same time man did?

"It didn't. Food is a man-made word for nutricious stuff, humans can eat with no harmful effects."

"And, why doesn't food change, after these millions of years to something not food so it won't get destroyed every day by hungry people and animals?"

Organisms chance. Food is a man-made synonym for 'edible'. I'm sure different creeds and different times have placed different content under this header.

Sidenote: Some of you kids seem to imply that nature is intentional, for instance Watergirl 909: "The fruits are SUPPOSED to be eaten".

Really? I'd say Darwinism and agnosticism would teach you instead, that most fruit can FORTUITOUSLY be eaten by humans without harming us.

As far as I know, the whole crux of the argument is MUTATION: things happen - some prove evolutionary fortuitous, hence they become dominant.

The rest is speculation..

old comment by Horsefeathers

"How did food happen to evolve at the same time man did?"

This is almost as stupid as, "how did women evolve at the same time as men so that they could reproduce?"

"And, why doesn't food change, after these millions of years to something not food so it won't get destroyed every day by hungry people and animals?"

Many plants have *gasp* evolved to rely on being eaten to spread their seeds. They use the fact that they're eaten to distribute their seeds to a wider area so they actually promote animals eating them by tasting good and looking yummy.

"Natural selection doesn't seem to handle that too well."

It seems to handle it just fine. Those that couldn't adapt (as in the example above) or couldn't become inedible or simply grow faster than they were eaten aren't around any more.

old comment by dionysus

How did food happen to evolve at the same time man did?

Food existed before man. What, you think animals didn't eat anything until humans came around? Even if we assume creationism is true that's retarded. What, did the animals sit around for a whole day (or 2 in the case of sea creatures) starving themselves? And in the real world it's even more retarded to think that animals didn't eat until humans evolved.

And, why doesn't food change, after these millions of years to something not food so it won't get destroyed every day by hungry people and animals?

Many food items benefit from being eaten. Plants get to spread their seeds when fruit is eaten. Flowers get pollinated by bees. Even animals benefit from predators keeping their population in check and preventing a depletion of resources. But, even then they do evolve defense mechanisms to prevent the predators from wiping out the population completely. Trouble is that predators also up the ante. As for becoming non-food, that's nonsense. Any living thing can be eaten and digested, it's just about overcoming their defense mechanisms.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Along with animals (thus destroying Biblical Creation. One word: dogs), from progression from the hunter-gatherer to the early agrarian society, people experimented via cross-pollination/hybridisation to breed hardier strains of crops (resistant to pests, disease etc; also increase yield). As humanity has progressed, the scientific techniques have advanced to create - genetically, no less - even more disease/pest-resistant crops that can grow to harvest quicker, to feed an increasing population. Domestication of plants, as well as animals.

The banana as we know it today, was as a result of crop domestication, via direct human intervention. Ray Cumfart, I'm looking at you.

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old comment by SomeoneYouKnow

How did food happen to evolve at the same time man did?

What? Are you asking how there could be food without humans? What do you think the ancestors of giraffes ate for example? Not to mention that meat eaters (carnivores) have been around for a hell of a long time as well.

And, why doesn't food change, after these millions of years to something not food so it won't get destroyed every day by hungry people and animals?

If you mean naturally, then yes animals are still evolving. The deer might be running a little faster but because they can't outrun a bullet the advantage is negated against human hunters but it could help against wolves. The plants that we eat, mostly it's beneficial for them to be eaten. Basically the fruit is eaten, the fruit is digested but the seeds are excreted out. It's a benefit to both the plant (it's seeds get spread) and the animal (who gets food.) Some aren't however, peppers (for example) evolved to be bright, hot and spicy so that mammals stay away and only birds eat them, though humans like the flavor so it fails against us.

old comment by Giveitaday

How did food happen to evolve at the same time man did?

This is possibly the absolute stupidest thing I have ever read. Damn near everything is food to one creature or another, food is not a seperate and independent type of life.

And, why doesn't food change

It does. For example, there are several types of animals that have been hunted to extinction and therefore are no longer eaten, and in the reality based community that is called "change". Another example of "change" is that there was a time there was no such thing as chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream, and now there is.

after these millions of years to something not food so it won't get destroyed every day by hungry people and animals?

That question does't even make sense. I tend to think this idiot is a poe, for no other reason than the fact that I cannot believe that there is someone out there that is this fucking stupid.

Natural selection doesn't seem to handle that too well.

That's because you have little to no idea what natural selection is or describes.

old comment by Boudicca

AnswersNOW needs to watch more Discovery Channel. Then maybe he'd learn about the bacteria in the deep ocean that lives on the hydrosulfides that come out of thermal vents, and how tube worms have adapted so that they can eat the byproducts produced by the bacteria. And how shrimp, crabs, and other lifeforms live off the tube worms, and other fish live off the shrimp, crabs, etc.

Then he could learn how plants take minerals from the soil, water, and carbon dioxide, using photosynthesis powered by solar energy to create simple sugars in things like leaves, roots, and fruits which are eaten by other lifeforms like caterpillars, bees, ungulates, rodents, etc. And how those lifeforms are eaten by other lifeforms.

"Food" always existed, whether it was hydrosulfides or solar energy. Lifeforms merely evolved to take advantage of it.

old comment by Angua

This dude isn't a poe. Like H, I regularly read on Ray Comfort's blog. Some of the commenters there apparently managed to figure out who AnswersNOW was in real life using their Google-fu. Normally, I wouldn't want to violate someone's anonymity by giving away their real life name. But seeing how AnswersNOW uses a photograph of himself in his avatar, has no problems making his kooky claims under his own name elsewhere on the web, has an ego larger than Jupiter, and hasn't complained about others addressing him by is actual name . . . well, I don't think he's to concerned with anonymity. His name in real life is Robert Petry.

So . . . yeah. This guy isn't a poe. He's genuinely this stupid and deranged. He claims that when scientists use words like "maybe" or "probably," that means that scientists are trying to fool you using "the language of deception" -- even though others have pointed out to him that this is simply being intellectually honest. He thinks that the rapture is going to happen in 21 years. He claims that there was a third creation after Noah's flood (he counts the first two chapters of Genesis as different creations -- the first is the creation of the Earth, the second is the specific creation of the Garden of Eden). When some of us pointed out that we could find nothing in the Bible to support these interpretations, he gave a complete non-answer about how atheists weren't yet prepared to understand.

I don't know why he chose the name AnswersNOW as a handle, seeing as he never gives any answers that are anything more than insults and obfuscating bafflegaff.

Some of the commenters of Ray's blog have tried to give him more appropriate names. Among these are AnswersNO, AnswersNOTSOMUCH, AnswersNEVER, and LunacyNOW. Feel free to use any of these or add your own suggestions.

old comment by Pat

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Although the old post displayed blatant ignorance, it's actually something interesting in biology to consider how evolution works. Like the coevolution of bees/flowers, of parasites/hosts. And how it is possible for some plants to be surprisingly well adapted poisons and sometimes psychotropics and useful molecules for medicine (compatible carbon chemistry, diversity, common genes, etc.). The dynamics of diversification and speciation like radiations, are also very interesting. Reading this thread was entertaining for me and some comments hit the spot.

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