( labelle )
Dare I say, race also plays a factor. A lot of the older women falling for this nonesense are white women, and I think it has a lot to do with not wanting to offend.
( shewolfoffrance )
Totally agree. Gender woo, in general, seems to be predominantly white. I think for some it's a shortcut out of the "privileged oppressor" class.
( Spencer_Shayy )
Yup. It's also the result of white guilt. The ones who want to get out of being the "privileged oppressor" will adopt a "gender identity" or pretend they're some flavor of "LGBTQ". The ones who don't do that will spend the rest of their life self-flagellating and atoning for the "sin" of being white and/or "cis".
Riiight. Because they’re all American and/or follow a very particularly US-centric sort of approach to race relations.
We trans people exist outside of America, you know. Even, daresay, outside the Anglosphere. But I guess you’d all brush that off as some sort of irrelevant exception or as a spillover of the above. Because reality must bend to gender-critical ideology; nothing can ever bring the latter into question!
Also, as a white person, getting out of the “privileged oppressor class” didn’t even occur to me as a motive to transition. Don’t project your quasi-anti-woke constructions onto me.
I used to be way more of a "libfem" riddled with white guilt. I know how they think.
Honey, you’re a TERF. I think we have established by now that your kind know how EVERYONE “truly” thinks!
( brusquette )
The reality is the goalposts moved to insist that sex is just not real, and to deny us any terms to differentiate our sex based oppression, or to call out when TIMs are being misogynistic.
Let’s see… that’s a “no”, “no” and “no”. At best a misunderstanding, at worst bullshit, and certainly a strawman.
Next!
If they had stayed in their own lane,
These words are always a great sign that what follows after totally isn’t bigoted!
Stay in your lane, woman. Darkie. Faggot.
Tranny.
I could understand that some people really do feel a discordance with their appearance and that societies conflation of gender conformity with sexuality makes that difficult. "Transbians" can't really live as effeminate gay men, because they are actually straight men. Yet being effeminate will still always make others homophobic towards a straight man, and even doubtful of his sexuality.
…which is not why I transitioned.
I am not fleeing homophobia, even a misaimed homophobia.
I would still want to transition, including medically, even if you assholes somehow magically “abolished gender” as you claim to want to do.
Because I am not a straight man, and I would never be happy or satisfied as a straight man. And believe me, I tried.
It’s not just about wearing feminine clothes, or makeup, or having certain mannerisms. It’s about so much more.
And if you think that being a trans woman is more acceptable in my country than being a gay man, well, I have a bridge to sell you!
The reality is for many older women, they're not online enough to see all of the details of this. I probably wouldn't be near as peaked if I weren't as online, and if I didn't know as many TIPs IRL.
Of course, an aspect of this is that I can openly say that here and gender critical feminists will have polite disagreement with me about it, without any of them screeching that I'm literally genociding them or trying to convince me I have to fuck them.
You claim to “know many TIPs IRL”. And then you claim they fit your ridiculous stereotypes of us to a tee.
This strains even my considerable bias toward assuming truthfulness from TERFs.
Yes, I believe that your kind rarely outright knowingly lie. But this?
I suppose it’s possible that you have a very distorted view of reality (particularly of the transfolk you claim to know), and you see what you want to see.
And yeah, you’re right — the apparent fact that you’re terminally online has definitely 'peaked' you. Typical TERF story there.
Also…
Of course, an aspect of this is that I can openly say that here and gender critical feminists will have polite disagreement with me about it, without any of them screeching that I'm literally genociding them or trying to convince me I have to fuck them.
Nothing you said here is in any way different from the GC consensus. You seem to be a perfectly well-adjusted example of your kind, so of course any disagreement with your fellow ‘sisters’ — who are likely just as well-adjusted rabid TERFs — will easily be a matter of “polite disagreement”, since you probably don’t have any meaningful or substantial disagreements with them to begin with.
