America's three pronged plunge into reprobation - No politics can solve this dilemma
1. Over 40 years past America decided that nine Supreme Court justices got it right when they ruled that women could legally abort (murder) another human being. The battle to stop this genocide has raged since then, but to no avail. Under the Obama administration it has reached all new heights and taxpayers and working class people have begun to pay for these abortions.
2. America was the first nation to recognize Israel's statehood when she became a free and independent nation in 1948. Since then most presidents have supported Israel unequivocally. Today for the first time under Barack Obama that recognition has waned and fluttered to the point that most Americans now believe that in a showdown between Muslim nations and Israel, Barack Obama would throw Israel under the bus in an instant.
3. Thirty seven states now allow "same sex marriage" and the Supreme Court is once again on the cusp of allowing the general acceptance, streamlining and lawful practice of this perversion throughout the nation.
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1. Abortion is at its most restricted since 1973. People are trying to take abortion clinics away, especially from poor people who may need them.
2. Obama is a friend of Israel. All he's doing is criticising some of Bibi's tactics.
3. Forbidding same-sex marriage is really like forbidding interracial marriage. The same standard should probably overturn the former. I personally await with zeal the Obergefell v. Hodges decision.
"3. Thirty seven states now allow "same sex marriage" and the Supreme Court is once again on the cusp of allowing the general acceptance, streamlining and lawful practice of this perversion throughout the nation. "
All this started in 1967 when unelected activist judges, legislating from the bench, declared that niggers could "marry" white women.
1. The abortion rate reached its peak in the Reagan and George HW Bush years. The rate is now lower than it has been at any time since Roe v Wade.
2. Actually, the first country to officially recognize Israel was the Soviet Union, followed by Czechoslovakia and Poland. As for US presidents waning and fluttering, you seem to be forgetting the early Reagan administration difficulties with Israel, encapsulated in Reagan's Middle East Envoy Philip Habib; George W Bush's irritation at Israeli coolness towards the Bush Roadmap; and George HW Bush's continual criticism of Israeli policies, culminating in the denial of aid to Israel, going much further than Obama ever has.
3. The law and your moral values are different. That has been so since the day you were born. You are right that no politics of yours can solve that.
"America was the first nation to recognize Israel's statehood when she became a free and independent nation in 1948."
Recognized?
You were the main instigator FORCING it's creation and are the military forces insuring it's continuance.
Let's all stop pretending Israelites rose from the ashes and reconquered their ancestral home.
Under the Obama administration it has reached all new heights
Someone want to explain to me just one thing Obama has done to increase the number of abortions in this country?
taxpayers and working class people have begun to pay for these abortions.
Liar. There's still a law which says that no taxpayer dollars will be used to pay for abortions.
Barack Obama would throw Israel under the bus in an instant.
I've also heard this "Obama hates Israel" claim thrown around a lot, but I fail to see one thing he's ever done to justify this claim. In fact, didn't Israel give Obama a big award a few years ago?
the Supreme Court is once again on the cusp of allowing the general acceptance, streamlining and lawful practice of this perversion throughout the nation.
I await your conservative tears when that finally happens. And I plan to see about 40 years of bitching, moaning, and Republican lawmakers vowing to repeal the decision just like they've done with abortion since 1973.
@ Canadiest
The support of the United States for the UN Resolution was far from clear even after it had been presented, especially as the State Department was firmly opposed. The United States also never so much as lent a bullet to Israel until 1955. The most passionate support during the UN Partition Plan debate, and the country that sent the arms that enabled Israel to win its war of independence, was the Soviet Union.
As for "reconquering their ancestral home," as the words "UN Partition Plan" imply, one part of the state was automatically given to the Jewish state on partition. The fact that this state was immediately invaded by Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria meant that there was a war. Not difficult to understand.
I'm intrigued by the use of the word "Israelite" as opposed to "Israeli" or "Jew." What caused you to choose it?
"Under the Obama administration it has reached all new heights and taxpayers and working class people have begun to pay for these abortions."
Actually abortions are at an all time low and the Hyde amendment. which prohibits the use of federal funds for abortions is still in effect.
"Today for the first time under Barack Obama that recognition has waned..."
Which is why the US still protects Israel in the UN. The administrations issues are more with Netanyahu than Israel.
So Michael, since you're so concerned about Israel, who had lost the country what, 1700 years ago, why don't you start a petition to carve out a large chunk of the US to serve as a separate nation for our Native Americans?
It's only been 200 years since they lost their homes to a technologically advanced foe.
If America is so horrible now, then feel free to move to another country, one more suited to your views.
There are certain Eastern European nations that may welcome you, and places like Uganda. You'll probably need to spend time and effort learning the local languages first.
@Canadiest
Like Hasan Prishtina pointed out, the US was lukewarm to Israel until the 50s (who forced out Israel/France/Britain in the Suez Crisis in '56?). Czechoslovak arms, given with the blessing of the USSR, were the main external arms for Israel in 1948, not a fictional American support. The Soviets thought Israel, with its Eastern European Judaism, would be receptive to Soviet-style Socialism.
1. Presumably you'd not complain if taxpayers are having to fund the child benefits received by parents, often from poorer backgrounds, with larger families. Alternatively, if you resent having to spend money to fund 'irresponsible scroungers' you could leave the families with reduced welfare, and a harsher environment to grow up in, even though this would make a mockery out of your claims to be pro-life.
2. Seeking rational discourse with Islamic nations is not the same as abandoning Israel in favour of its enemies. Whilst it is not as fervent (when Netanyahu has courted his opponents, why should he kertow?) as the previous Bush administration's support for Israel, Obama is still an ally of Israel, and it's unrealistic to expect him to start funding Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah etc. instead any time soon.
3. A section of society is now enjoying what was once a privilege afforded to straights only. Far from a decline, I'd argue that this signifies great progress in modern day America. In this instance it shows an abandonment of the discriminatory policies of old.
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