In an interview, Jon Stewart said, "We may not agree on the way [to handle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict], but to compare me to the Jews who helped Nazis? ... Since when does disagreement with the policies of the Israeli government makes you a lesser Jew? It is very rude for other Jews to say things like that.”
“Stewart” is correct on one thing. The Jews who “helped” the Nazis did so because, in their mortal peril, they’d abandoned their moral principles for the glimmer of hope of personal survival. “Stewart” – a pampered, self-centered, deluded king of his world – is nothing like those wretches in his attacks on the Jewish state and its defenders.
He is incomparably worse.
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Arik Elman is right about one thing - he is a pampered, self-centered, deluded king of his world very much like those wretches in Nazi Germany who cared only about themselfs and everyone else could fuck off and die.
Ebon: He's probably referring to the fact that Stewart is not his birth name, but with these wackadoos, who the fuck knows? He's probably online right now Googling ways to connect John Stewart to the Illuminati.
The quotes I believe are there to denote that Stewart's birth name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz. The "Israel is Always Right" types use it to suggest Stewart is trying to hide his Jewish background. The last time I watched his show, he was mock apologizing to Bill O'Reilly for wishing people "Happy Hanukkah", so this notion he's hiding his ethnicity is bullshit.
Now, could Arik give us the train of thought that suggests a Jew occasionally criticizing Israel is that same as participating in genocide?
An example of how some people regard the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a clear-cut battle The Good, who can do no wrong, vs The Evil, who can do nothing but wrong.
Those who think that The Good = the Palestinians, compare the Israeli government to the Apartheid era white rulers of South Africa or the Nazis.
Those who think that The Good = the Israelis, insist that critizising any acts of the state of Israel is Jew hatred, putting you on the level of Holocaust deniers.
The blanket acceptance of any attack committed by Israel has been out of hand for a long time now.
If they weren't crossing the line you wouldn't hear any criticism, if you accept any level of overkill you will have to hear it and give an actual reason of justification.
Israel is a state , built by notoriously fallible humans and run by politicians --- need i say more on that last point? of course it deserves criticism; ANY real-world state does things wrong that need criticizing. that's how politics WORK.
as for deriding Jon Stewart's use of a stage name, helloo, he's a professional actor --- they pretty much all do that. doesn't have to mean anything other than his agent thought he'd get better PR that way.
And Dwayne Johnson* refers/referred to himself as 'The Rock'.
Your point, Kria? Because you sound butthurt enough to be true to your actual name.
*- Watched the film version of "DOOM" on TV last night. [/id Software nerd]
He is incomparably worse.
In the sense that there is no comparison between the acts and you've got shit for brains? Yeah, sure.
Israel: A nation suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome... and at this late date, it's the Stockholm Syndrome-by-proxy.
"There is no difference between terrorism and counter-terrorism" - Noam Chomsky (Born to a middle-class Ashkenazi Jewish family in Philadelphia - Wikipedia)
"I have seen the enemy, and he is us!" - Walt Kelly
Stewart, ne John Stuart Leibowitz, said a couple times that he changed his name because of a disagreement with his father, after which he didn't want to identify with his old man, and left it at that.
Elman, and Adam Levin a few months prior, try to use that as proof that he's a self-hating Jew.
"The Jews who “helped” the Nazis did so because, in their mortal peril, they’d abandoned their moral principles for the glimmer of hope of personal survival."
Assuming you're talking about Kapos, why don't we just try putting you in a filthy concentration camp with no food for a few months, where you see your family and friends murdered and burned in ovens, and then we give you a choice between "helping" run the place and keeping your "moral principles" by taking your place in line for the gas chamber. Then we'll see how long those principles of yours really last.
@Malingspann
I identify as a Zionist, but I am not anti-Palestine. I think that the good is Israeli and Palestinian doves, and the bad is Israeli and Palestinian wingnut Religious Right war hawks. There is an ample number of both in Israel and Palestine.
I criticise some of Israel's policies, sure, but I think facile comparisons to the Nazis and apartheidists are misinformed at best and harmfully dishonest at worst.
So, Arik, can you actually defend Israeli policies in a rational manner, or is name-calling the extent of your "intelligence"?
Ah, the "No True Jew" argument!
And Stewart calls himself "Stewart" because his Dad was apparently an epic butt-enema, and it was a way to cut ties! He still fully-embraces his Jewishness.
But then again, you'll yammer about him breaking the Fifth Commandment.
Go watch Jon Stewart's stand up from the 90s. He kevetches about his Jewish heritage every third joke. Like his joke about the main difference between Jews and Blacks is that black people were smart enough to put their historical institutionalized suffering to music. Thus jazz.
It always warms my heart to see interfaith couples in Isreal. If only because I know some fundie's head explodes every time the dears are out in public.
It doesn't surprize me that Jew haters AND Jew lovers both attack Stewart, he knows he's in the sites as he could influence either side somewhat.
I love it that Stewart (and many other prominent Jews) feel free to criticize Israels over the top, treaty breaking bullshit because this really needs to be done. The American unwavering support is entirely built on fundamentalist end-time bullshit, they want Armageddon, because it's their Dogma and their wish but mainly because
It'll happen over there.
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