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David #fundie forum.myspace.com

[From the starting post in a thread called, 'random facts proving christianity to be the one true religion']

- Christianity is the most commonly hated religion - it is looked down on (i.e. a Christian being made fun of in a public school compared to a muslim who is popular despite his religion) also... (christianity being removed from society everywhere possible)

Anthony the Human #fundie forum.myspace.com

Yeah we all know the pagan roots of Christmas, but reguardless of the roots...it is still celebrating the birth of Christ the Saviour. Jesus gets all the glory, not pagans. Like it or not, if you are participating in Christmas, you are worshipping Jesus Christ.

Wendell #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Responding to quotes from the founding fathers.]

Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????

Think about it!

All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?


I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..............we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.

It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?

We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.
This says it all!

[Copy-and-pasted racist, anti-immigrant rant.]

I am not out to force gays and lesbians to do anything that they do not feel lead to do. but with that being said, Now on the laws there are more laws protecting gays and lesbians from mistreatment from blaitent disregard for there beliefs. Than there are to protect hetero sexuals from mistreatment and blaitent disregard from homosexual herassment? Really let's just play Fair.

Brian Michael C #fundie forum.myspace.com

I decided to come to this religion board again today, just to see what some of you are talking about. And let me say this, I am truly ashamed of almost all of you.

I see questions like 'If Jesus did this...then why is this?' Or 'if God really exists, then why is this this?' Shut up with your godless blasphemy!!! Im sick of seeing it, not only here but in real life. God exists, and I know all of you know this you JUST CHOOSE TO DENY IT. I know most of you have come to see the wisdom and intelligence, and goodness that Christianity brings forth, but you hide that knowledge behind your hatred of life, and deny what you know is good and true.

Quit questioning, start accepting. You think you look smart when you question everything? You don't, you look like an ass. God himself is frowning as he reads what you write and is probably thinking, what the hell is wrong with this person?

Accept the gospel, quit living in the agony which is a life of anti-God hatred. Embrace that which is good, and quit thinking the onus is on God to prove himself...THE ONUS IS ON YOU, TO PROVE YOURSELF WORTHY TO MEET GOD AGAIN.

Do not forget my words, for I have come here to bring some of my sheep back on the right path. I am a shepherd, and although I realize I am stern with all of you sometimes, this is for your own good. Your souls are at stake and I will try everything I can to see that my brothers and sisters do not end up in hell!

Mars #fundie forum.myspace.com

The children of the angels are the neanderthal (Genesis 6); We existed before them, they have larger brain cavities, stronger muscles, they were canabolistic and very violent, the mtDNA demonstrates we did not or could not productively mate with them, nor did we 'evolve' from them. And pragmatically speaking we would have evolved to them because they were superior in every physical way. They all died off "some how" which is clearly explained by the flood;

PETE #fundie forum.myspace.com

the universe or "all of this" did have a cause. It didn't JUST exist. This argument from the skeptic (no need for a cause) is simply the result of not "thinking that deep" or "not thinking entirely".

°o.Opaki princessO.o° #fundie forum.myspace.com

1) New York City has 11 letters

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin
Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number
11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers.
6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number
911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was
254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4
= 11.

3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers
incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is
the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic
holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.
The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,
while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for
the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was
peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran. [Editors comment: See <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp" target="_blank">Snopes.com - Quranic verse 9.11</a> for a debunking of this urban legend.]

Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel
afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first
plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS

What do you think now?!!

Operation Ground and Pound #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Responding to "Religion is about as useful as male nipples."]

Well then if u believe that, then u have never believed in a religion b4. Judiasm is such an incredibly deep religion wen u learn about it, that u figure out that there is no doubt that there is a G-d. I have seen things that has reinforced my beliefs. There is no such thing as an accident. Every single "accident" could have been avoided. But it was destined 2 happen. Nothing is spontaneous. In fact, studies show that there is a 1 in 2 with 250 million zeros after it that something can be spontaneous.

JoshyPants1234 #fundie forum.myspace.com

The paintings that "portay" him as black are nothing more than idols worshipped by the black panthers. Graven Images!! The white paintings came first....they date back to when he was alive. A man named Simon Blensmore found them at the dead sea or something.

Brian Michael C #fundie forum.myspace.com

The Bible makes clear in genesis cain was cursed with Black skin, nearly all christians believe this. Many groups of people most likely were further cursed with dark skin when they became wicked...this is how things were done according to gods will in the past. For example in the book of mormon the lamanites were cursed with dark skin to differentiate them from the Nephites who they tried to kill. The Nephites were ordered not to mix with the Lamanites because they had not kept gods word and embraced wrongful ways.

I suggest you read the book of mormon.

Brian Michael C #racist forum.myspace.com

I have done some more research and have here the references in the book of Mormon proving that when groups of people often turned to wickedness. They were cursed with a dark skin. This is not to say all the descendants of those who were cursed are still evil, but because of their forefathers they still have the cursed skin....and in many cases, as with the Seed of Cain (dark Africans) they still have consequences of that curse today, as they have been unable to progress at the same rate as the rest of the world. Look at how Africa is a third world country, often in many countries unable to progress past the stone age, and how much of the non cursed peoples (The white countries) are first world...this is almost always the case...America, Canada, Europe, Australia..ect...

Brian Michael C #fundie forum.myspace.com

PROOF THAT CHRIST WAS INDEED A FAIR SKINNED LIGHT FEATURED CAUCASIAN


I am aware it is kind of strange to try and convince people that Jesus Christ truly was a white man, but this is something that must be known to all as a result of the resent false accusations springing forth in the world. Christians have not tried to distort the truth over time like our critics erroneously claim time and time again, liberals and atheists have, and they have begun this false deceiving practice just recently again by trying to convince people that Jesus was a dark complected arab looking man. Some News reports and articles are now even going as far as to include computer generated images of what they speculate he looked like, having him have dark skin and eyes, and black hair. They have been met with little opposition overall, because many who know the truth are afraid to speak up for fear of being labeled 'racists'. Well I am not, and I know the truth regardless what the politically correct liberal western societies of the world label me. The pictures show him White for a reason, these are not lies. Jesus was a white man, and the people who have tried to distort this fact over time have an agenda to try and prove that Christianity is not a white religion.

[lengthy apologetics snipped]

So now when someone tells you that Jesus was really an arab looking guy, and that Christianity has been lying all this time about his true appearance, you can say, no you are wrong. Jesus was white! You can proclaim, knowing full well in your heart that you speak the truth.

Anna Carol Fancher #fundie forum.myspace.com

AND, if God had made us unable to sin, there would be no evil, there would be no need for Jesus--- THEREFORE, His Glory would not have been able to shine AS BRIGHT! TO REVEAL His grace and His mercy AND FORGIVENESS! This is what it's all for!!! Not so I can be happy in Heaven but so that JEsus is seen in His true Light!!!!!! It's all for him!

More than laughs... #fundie forum.myspace.com

I think Santa is everything that is wrong with Christmas...it is yet another way parents choose to control their children using threats instead of teaching them right from wrong...you know, "nice boys and girls get the toys they want because Santa is watching"...

† Matt † #fundie forum.myspace.com

You see, gay people as individuals have the same rights as anyone else, but there are other things that come with marriage according to the government, such as additional healthcare. There are non-Biblical concerns such as what do we do when Ted gets bugs on his weiner from fudgepacking on Billy? Should the government pay for a decision they made that they KNEW would almost assuredly give them aids?

Samantha #fundie forum.myspace.com

I don't understand how "non-xmas" People are going to bitch about the whole "christmas in the classroom" and "secret santa", when they turn around and spend the money that has "In GOD we Trust" written all over it. Makes you think, huh?

Bill #fundie forum.myspace.com

With that said... do you understand that no one has seen an electron? If no one has seen an electron then how does electricty work? If the minipulation of these unseen electrons is actully the reason why you are able to read this argument then perhaps we can ask the question should the theroy of electricty be taugh in schools? After all no one can prove electricty because no one has seen how it actually works.... its all based off of a theory.

With that said... theory is the begining of science.

merrick #fundie forum.myspace.com

from what i heard those stores just prohibited employees from saying 'marry CHRISTmas' and told them to say 'happy holidays'.

Christians and muslims are the primary victims of religious persecution. but there not the only ones. plus..... american christians do have the right to defend there beliefs. but dont say your persecuted. your not. go to africa. go to asia. go to any third world country and live as a christian. than you have the right to complain about persecution. until then.... shut up you week oversensative dramatic ungratefull moron.

Josh #fundie forum.myspace.com

a bat's wing and the human arm have similar bone structures, but that doesn't mean we share an ancestor! you can think that if you want, but you have to leave science in order to do so.

the hot sauce's little sister #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Responding to someone quoting Deuteronomy 23:1-3]

whoa. what is your deal?

what are you quoting. not the bible

you obviously know nothing about the christian religion.


[After being told that yes, those verses really are in the bible.]

DID you even read what those verses said? they were twisted april.

the hot sauce's little sister #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Responding to a guy noting the "logic" of the bible that says earth is 4000 years old, the earth is flat, and that its ok to beat your kids death]

WHOA WHOA WHOA... you have a messed up version of christians in you rmind..

1. where did you get that information? who said the earth was created 4000 years ago?

2. heresy only to the roman catholic church..many many many years ago. don't be blaming us now for that. (plus that wasnt the chrittians, that was a radical movement)

3... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
tell me in the bible where it says to beat kids?

haha

YOUR turn mr smarty pants

and so its begun #fundie forum.myspace.com

also does it not explain the idea of pangea for in the bible it says that the springs of the earth burst forth. and scientist decided that the only way for pangea to have been a reality was if something shot through the earth with atomical force. well i think that if God who made this earth wanted too he coud most deffinately seperate a few continents by shooting some water up between them

Debbie #fundie forum.myspace.com

The evalution theory in some sense is sound, but at the same time, if you compare it to the Biblical take on creation, and combine the 2, then you get my twisted veiw on life. In the bible it says that time in heaven and time on earth are not calculated the same. (the story of a man who walked with Jesus in heaven, he had only been gone a few moments and when he returned many years had passed) So with that said there are what 6 major evalutionary periods?! well, Life as we know it was created in 6 days. So, for my own sanity, that's the way I look at it. no real scientific proof, just my own theory. lol Life is what you make of it and there will ALWAYS be someone out there looking for answers we can not answer in this lifetime.

B.S.!! #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Defending the use of white phosphorus against Fallujah]

Why not burn the fuckers? Saves bullets and keeps our soldiers from having to get close enough to kill or be killed. And if any of you think that any of those ppl killed would give two shits about americans getting killed in ways more worse and vile than that, then you all are fooling yourselves with a feeling of universal morality. I say fuckem, fuckem right in the ass.

lauren. #fundie forum.myspace.com

The Bible does in fact have actual, physical evidence for all you post modernists out there.
I could actually name them off:
scientists were baffled due to the FACT that there is a day missing in time- how do they calculate this you say? Well when a satellite, or something orbits the earth- they have precise time on the object. If you know, the Bible mentions God taking a day out of time. They found the ark. hm...yes, very much so physical evidence;in each country they have documents of a "giant flood". Its all there, look it up, and look it up the in Bible.
And Im not saying everyone hasnt looked through the Bible for certain cases, but to back up yalls theory on post modernism, you should read the Bible.
Allan Sandage(was an amazing astronomer), before his death, became a Christian from his research. Many scientists have.
The Bible wasnt something to just have written in a few years like most religions or beliefs.
Others like Sir Issac Newton believed that what they strongly studied had to do with a much greater being, that being God. Theyd acknowledge that Christianity is indeed extremely compatible with science.
Beliefs they had may not be your own, and nor would you even consider actually studying through it, whether you be scared of finding something out, or just getting peeved off, but I highly reccomend researching like many others. Whether you have already, and still do not believe truth; it is the truth.
Everything that is sought out in science is fragile;
And Martin Luther King wrote-“Science investigates, religion interprets.Science gives man knowledge which is power, religion gives man wisdom which is control.”

.:oNeLOVE:. #fundie forum.myspace.com

I must have been a salamander...no, I think my dad was...no, it must have been my great grandfather...hmm, I don't know...let me ask Darwin...

Dirtwin! Where are you now! I know...you evolved into dust! or did you return to a cell?

Which one is it?

I know you were right...right about how my house and future children came into existence!

Ryan #fundie forum.myspace.com

Alright, I will start out with.
Genesis 1:26-27 Then God said, " Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over ever creeping thing that creeps on the earth." 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Alright, this is my evidence against evolution. it does not say, "And God created man in the image of an ape to evolve into a man!"

God dupilcated Himself in kind! Man didn't spring from a monkey. He didn'tcome from a single cell that decidedto crawl on the ground, then hang by its tail from a trees, and finally walk upright! What I say to that is, Intellectual GARBAGE!

Dorfman #fundie forum.myspace.com

Having assumed that people have a general knowledge of basic alebra. I shall attempt to prove God.

Well all know that the earth sits at a certian angle on its axis. How could this have been done with the big bang theroy?
Scientist have proven, if the earth was off its axis or not a the PERFECT angle we would burn up due to the suns position.
Proof?

We know that the earth rotates around the sun in a elipse form. (alerbra word)
For elipse to be an elispe it has to have TWO FOCI (man this is making my head hurt) Which makes sense with the gravational pull around the sun. However, what doesn't make since is there is only ONE foci being the sun. Yet the earth still revolves around the sun in elispe form. Explain that one. How can the earth due this with an exact elipse form without another foci?

God.

bascially, A= axis B= Balence G= God

A+b=G
simple enough?

.:oNeLOVE:. #fundie forum.myspace.com

The reason why the politician has a clear conscience is because his mind is set on
evolution, regardless of his claims in a higher power existing. The hopes and his entire reasoning why he can get up in the morning and tell his lies.

Pastah Mac #fundie forum.myspace.com

I think you're avoiding backing your obvious ignorant claims.

Your Atheism was most likely sparked in College...stressed from HighSchool life because of the obvious rejection. You love to teach, but you only do so for the sake of purpose and that was the best alternative at the time for a college education to give. Your smoking, though not too much festered in you early to calm the storm of stress from school life and other such things. The smile you posess is only a fragment to cover up the pain and anguish of the rejection from not only your peers, but your family as well.

You're still single because you have this unhealthy bias towards men, due to jealously and that scar of rejection. The beauty of intelligence inside of you has been willfully limited so as not to have high expectations and be shot down.

In many instances you love to speak to friends, but gather few from your uneasiness around others and the inability to trust.

All these add up to your rejection of a loving God, because from the absence of love within your own life you deem it to be impossible.

† Matt † #fundie forum.myspace.com

[On the allegations by the RAI that the US used white phosphorus in Iraq - this was written the day the US admitted to using it.]

this is the thing.... you can make a stretch out of anything and get it to support your political agenda. Perhaps White Phosphorus wasn't used against citizens. Iraqi militants have been doing stuff as is to try to make the U.S. look bad. Before you go on this rant about that being crap, why would they NOT want the U.S. to look bad? If they can make the U.S. look bad, people like yourself can raise this big deal over it and the ones like you can interrupt everything, and get in people's way protesting as if the President REALLY cares what you think.... What's to say that the Iraqi militants didn't use the white phosphorus against the civilians who wouldn't fight for the Iraqi army? Why would the U.S. kill innocent civilians anyways? What does that profit? It's a stretch and a half to think that they kill people just for the heck of it. You have to ask yourself what is the bigger stretch... to think that the Iraqi army did this to frame the U.S. army and build anti-American sentiment, or is it more of a stretch to think that the U.S. gets jollies from trying to kill innocent people who they said they are trying to set free? I personally think it's insane to think that the U.S. would strive to violate the Geneva Conventions. Why would they want to do that? They have a lot to lose if that's their goal.

SovereignAmerican420 #fundie forum.myspace.com

Just trace DNA to the end where does it end up?? One male & one female! If that's not evolution then what is?? Two become one. Everything is in evolution, time is aways moving forword not back. Like you didn't evolve in your mom's stomach. Go back to the researching and this time look for newer stuff man. And if you don't know where to look let me know. WOW!!

andrew #fundie forum.myspace.com

As christians we should not be ashamed of our past, everyone has made mistakes, should germans be ashamed to be german because of what hitler did? No. I am sick and tired of those hypocrites complaining about the church when they do not realize all the shit they had to deal with. So suck my balls bitch.

James or Clint a.k.a. Slash #fundie forum.myspace.com

I believe Evolution takes as much if not more faith that the Creationist view0point, why you ask? Because Creationism doesn't try to explain things because of bones and fossil records, we just believe, Evolution was a belief that was substantiated by the commonality between two animals of different species. If evolution is taught then there has to be an antithesis provided so that the kids can make a decision, instead of being forcefed the Darwin Agenda.

Lee #fundie forum.myspace.com

Um.... I think, if you think God is an ape.... then thats blasphemey dude. Do you want to know why we call God, Our Heavenly Father???
1. He's a Man (thats why we call him Father)
2. God Created the Heavens and the Earth (Thats why we call God Our heavenly Father)
3. And thats why God is Not an Ape
4. If you think God and humans All evolved into Apes....then maybe we should put you in a Zoo and feed you banana's lol =)

God made man in His image....So that means, God is a Man. But there will be a Day when we will all see the Lord.....so Stop worrying what he looks like =)

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