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Brick Wall Bandito #fundie forum.myspace.com

Since evolution and creationism cannot be proven right or wrong. It's just pure idiocy to think that you should only teach evolution or creationism. It's just like all the theories about how the dinosaurs died, no one is absolutely sure so you are usually taught at least 2 of the prefered theories. But to call this some stupid conservative thing really just highlights why people think liberal thinkers are the antichrist. The main problem with it, is that the school board made a decision on what to teach in Science class not based on science but what they "felt" was correct. Science isn't about feelings, it's about facts data and experiments. Outlawing theories is un-American and can only lead to a closed minded society that has a problem grasping difficult new concepts.

Mike #fundie forum.myspace.com

Many believe in evolution for the simple reason that they think science has proven it to be a fact and, therefore, it must be accepted. In recent years, a great number of people having finally been persuaded to make a real examination of the problem of evolution, and have become convinced of its flaws and are now convinced anti-evolutionists."

Henry Morris, a former evolutionist

I came across this quote while doing a paper against evolution and I really like it because it is true for a lot of people. People who dont do any research of their own and just accept what they've been told.

Steve (NagZul) #fundie forum.myspace.com

Its up to us to take care of the fetus before its fully grown, its not fair that we kill him before he finishes his growth..
If you think its ok to kill a pre-human.... then what would happen if we killed every pre-human, wed go estict, your sister would have made you that birthday cake, your boyfriend wouldn't have given you your first kiss...
a pre-huma is still life...
life starts is when somthing starts growing...

I mean if you don't want to creat life don't have sex, thats what sex is lituraly for..
I knows its plesurable, but so is eating... but if you eat for plesure your gonna get fat.. lol
But if you creat life, its not fair to kill him...

Trevor #fundie forum.myspace.com

But how do you justify right and wrong in atheism?

(Right and wrong? Well thats easy. We feel pain and suffering. We consider these to be bad. We feel a sense of connectivity to others. We internalize their pain. By extension of this we can see that their suffering is wrong. In this way we discover the basis of morality. This is all the result of our biological condition. Our social nature. Literally speaking we are impelled towards goodness because we internalize what happens to others. We learn to treat others as we wish to be treated ourselves due to our human nature.)

So is rape wrong in atheism?

just wondering

... #fundie forum.myspace.com

There has to be something more, because logic demands it.

To say that the purpose of all living things is simply in order to reproduce, is circular logic. It's like saying, the purpose of life is to live. There clearly must be something more than living, because everything else that is designed intelligently has some sort of purpose. I think the fact that every human wants purpose and seeks it, is proof it exists in some form or another. [emphasis added]

JoJo! #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Do you concede that you misinterpreted Exodus 21:22-23?]

No, because I've prayed about this verse and I know what God is actually meaning in it, and it's the same thing I've been saying all along.

Gemstone #fundie forum.myspace.com

Creationists believe in adaptation but not some stupid lighting bolt big bang crap. If lighting hits it would blow everything to hell and back not make life. It take a hell of a lot more faith to believe in your Evolution big bang theory then a Being somewhere in all that universe smart enough to create dirt and biorobots. Then let 6000 years of adaptation do its thing.

ACE the Fantastic #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Exodus 21:7: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."]

and when the hell did all you people, the 14 year old confused kids and the 30 somethings that are steel backpedling to keep aflote, who dont read the Bible become Thealogens and Bible Exspets? What the hell you dont go to an electrisian and start telling him whats wrong with it when you have no idea and he has been doing it for 15 years. i mean just cuse your pissed dosent mean you have to be a dick. who the hell gave you an adjenda?

David #fundie forum.myspace.com

if anyone says that a Christian has persecuted them in any way because of: race, religion, sex, or any other reason.... then, you have in fact not been persecuted by a Christian, because a true Christian would not persecute somebody.

Mike Jones #fundie forum.myspace.com

Funny a long time ago a man was reading in the Bible, the book of Isiah Chapter 14, where it says the earth is sphere. He then went on to disprove science which stated at that time the world was FLAT! Image that, using the Bible to disprove science, now why cant we do that today.

Anathema Device #fundie forum.myspace.com

No, no, no these are some of the "supposed" missing links. They are usually hoaxes and more often then not are combinations of ape and human bones. There is a theory though that when then find fully human bones with a curve bent apperance that they are old, haven't you seen old people who a bent over like that. They aren't another species because they don't walk up right, they are just old

Spex #fundie forum.myspace.com

Birth control is a pseudo safety net that cause more pregnancies than they prevent by giving people permission to be irresponsible. God had it right when he said no sex before marriage; it really does make sense.

Anthony the Human #fundie forum.myspace.com

Yeah we all know the pagan roots of Christmas, but reguardless of the roots...it is still celebrating the birth of Christ the Saviour. Jesus gets all the glory, not pagans. Like it or not, if you are participating in Christmas, you are worshipping Jesus Christ.

Ethan #fundie forum.myspace.com

(I wonder what I'm going to tell Him when he asks what I did to stop the genocide in Rwanda, or Darfur, or anywhere else for that matter. I'm gonna ask Him what I should've done to make people stop spending their money on abortion ads that change nothing, and how to make people stop wasting their time arguing instead of helping people. Fortunately Jesus will love me anyways.)

Jesus asks the questions, not the other way around. Your arrogance proceeds you.

Conservative Atheist #homophobia forum.myspace.com

Oh why am I wasting my time on you?....lol Ok I will make an exception just this one time.

Even though as humans we can deviate our sexual behavior for pleasure the sex act its self is designed through the evolutionary process to ontinue life. Homosexual activity does not continue life. Yes people can commit homosexual acts and yes they can be homosexuals but it serves no obvious purpose.

To claim its justified due to the fact that it has existed so long could also be applied to diabetes or any number of other genetic birth defects.

Bored as Hell #fundie forum.myspace.com

1. God is Real
2. Jesus is his Son
3. I'm going to believe that because he showed me it was true.
4. Your theorys are wack, they dont even make since.

And the most intelligent thing I've said all night:

Nothing cant come from something. Nothing *absolute zero* is impossible. Therefore something was there. Why not call that something God and his son Jesus?

Its true, and it saves you a lot of brain work.

Sarah #fundie forum.myspace.com

I don't care how you try to look at it, when girls freely spread their legs to a guy and end up getting pregnant, they now have a responsibility. If they decide to abort the child, because they don't want to have a child or are not ready, they are commiting murder. PERIOD. Now if the child is severally handicapped or the woman was raped, it can be looked at different. I have never been their, so I don't know what I would do. My belief is that abortion is a fancy word for MURDER. I believe if you freely spread you legs, you should deal with the aftermath.

Crip <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

i dont care how you "feel"
this isnt some pansy club where we all sit around and share eachothers sob stories
this thread is about killing babies
dont fuck with them
becuase when you die
they'll be grown
and be in hell waiting for payback for what u did to them.

SovereignAmerican420 #fundie forum.myspace.com

Just trace DNA to the end where does it end up?? One male & one female! If that's not evolution then what is?? Two become one. Everything is in evolution, time is aways moving forword not back. Like you didn't evolve in your mom's stomach. Go back to the researching and this time look for newer stuff man. And if you don't know where to look let me know. WOW!!

john the super christian #fundie forum.myspace.com

pro-creationism songs!

post them if you know some. this one was by a band from my area that broke up before i got to see them live, i wanted to ask them about it.

"the argument for creationism"

Apes don't need a higher power
We should be so wise
If only we could use these thumbs
For more than holding books of lies

I'd raise a glass to the death of science
I raise this glass to the downfall of reason

Score one for the creationists!
Singing their song of yes and amen
Your blind faith is almost inspiring
I said almost

...i play this song in my head whenever a silly evolutionist gets lippy.

Protecting human life in all stages #fundie forum.myspace.com

If you are telling me pro-choice doesn't stand for letting women kill the unborn human then I totally agree with the pro-choice movement. See heres the thing the pro-life movement is all for choices until they involve the killing of an innocent human.
And just to let you know your uterus does not give you control over other humans.

Jesus is the answer #fundie forum.myspace.com

Just like you dont understand people who get drunk and drive I cannot understand why people get drunk, period. Getting drunk solves nothing, it just causes more problems. Then you wake up hangover and feeling worse than the night before. This story has caused something in me to waken. I am now thinking of starting a movement that would make alcohol illegal and ciggarettes. Or I think I should start a camp were drunks and smokers can be kept at all times, give them free alcohol and ciggarettes until they kill each other.LOL but that would be a great idea. Pathetic fools they should die in their own filfth.

Ashanti Queen #fundie forum.myspace.com

abortion is pure murder!! is human cruelty! y kill an innocent soul??? even if it was alrite in de bible, i still wouldnt be up for it. if u r pregnant and dont want it, y dont u have de baby n den put him/her up for adoption?? or have a ceacarian and put de baby in an incubator if u fink u cant handle him/her 4 nine months?? after all de 6 (not sure) commandment say DO NOT COMMIT MURDER!!!

HARDCOOL (R-WV) #fundie forum.myspace.com

Theres no such thing as gay people, Im tellin ya. Its a falsafied orientation purpetuated by the media and hollywood. How can it be considered a valid sexual orientation when it doesnt do anything to further the human race or anything natural? I believe homosexuality comes about by abuse, or childhood; Choice (i.e. attention whore); Actually retarded but your gay with no relation to sex drive, like the retarded person doesnt differentiate (I unfortunately have a cousin this way by marriage, total moody douche bag loser)

Michal #fundie forum.myspace.com

Environmentalism is a religion that denies God ---That is why.....Green people are --Green on the outside and RED-Communist Red on the inside...besides all that ==Gaia and God are like Christ and BAAL...microsog57

Incorect #fundie forum.myspace.com

[On this <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/08/fatherhood.suit.ap/">case</a> where a man is suing to avoid child support because he did not want the woman to have the kid.]

This isn't about a man having a child then ditching it. This is about a man aborting a child BEFORE it is born. Women have that option... shouldn't men?

[No, a man should not be able to force a woman to have an abortion.]

I am sorry, I don't resort to personal attacks often, but you are stupid. The man has no reproductive rights. He has no choice to bring a child to birth or not.

Are men not worthy of reproductive rights?

Jo-mama #fundie forum.myspace.com

The problem with going along with gay marriages with no children is that once those are allowed, then the gay groups will demand all gay marriages be accepted. Then I will have a problem with gays denying kids a mom and a dad. The kids have a right to a mom and a dad - you could never have that with a gay marriage. Why do gay couples want to deny a child such a basic right?

Brian #fundie forum.myspace.com

If you really want to look at it in simple terms (which it seems will be the only way you will understand it), the "femi" part should be obvious that it has to do with the women's movenment. The "nazi" part is pointing out that this particular group is ultra-militant... anyone that doesn't agree with them shouldn't be allowed to live. For that matter, it is almost to the point that most think men shouldn't be allowed to live.

[You called me a feminazi yesterday. What did I say that suggested I don't think men should be allowed to live? In what way am I "ultra-militant?"]

You basically said that if we all didn't believe your line of thinking, we were stupid. You also do not want equal rights, you want AT LEAST equal rights with extra benefits where you want them.

Maria #fundie forum.myspace.com

i dont know if any of you know much about Mother Theresa, but she prayed and prayed for God to send someone to India who would help to cure disease, mainly AIDS. She prayed on three seperate occasions, and all three times God replied that the person he sent was aborted.

†JESUS IS MY OXYGEN† #fundie forum.myspace.com

The bible is God's word to us if u cant belibe his word then that means u dont belive God if u dont belive GOd then u cant belive his son. And if cant belive his son then u cant belive that he died for ur sins. And if u cant belive that then u cant be saved. and if u cant be saved then u cant go to heaven. and if u cant go to heaven u have to go to hell. So that what happens if u dont belive the Bible

Mac #fundie forum.myspace.com

Here's a good way to resist the temptation to masturbate.

The next time you feel like you want to masturbate, get a fat, black, sharpie magic marker and write the word "Jesus" on your palm. That should do it.

Brian Michael C #fundie forum.myspace.com

I decided to come to this religion board again today, just to see what some of you are talking about. And let me say this, I am truly ashamed of almost all of you.

I see questions like 'If Jesus did this...then why is this?' Or 'if God really exists, then why is this this?' Shut up with your godless blasphemy!!! Im sick of seeing it, not only here but in real life. God exists, and I know all of you know this you JUST CHOOSE TO DENY IT. I know most of you have come to see the wisdom and intelligence, and goodness that Christianity brings forth, but you hide that knowledge behind your hatred of life, and deny what you know is good and true.

Quit questioning, start accepting. You think you look smart when you question everything? You don't, you look like an ass. God himself is frowning as he reads what you write and is probably thinking, what the hell is wrong with this person?

Accept the gospel, quit living in the agony which is a life of anti-God hatred. Embrace that which is good, and quit thinking the onus is on God to prove himself...THE ONUS IS ON YOU, TO PROVE YOURSELF WORTHY TO MEET GOD AGAIN.

Do not forget my words, for I have come here to bring some of my sheep back on the right path. I am a shepherd, and although I realize I am stern with all of you sometimes, this is for your own good. Your souls are at stake and I will try everything I can to see that my brothers and sisters do not end up in hell!

lauren. #fundie forum.myspace.com

The Bible does in fact have actual, physical evidence for all you post modernists out there.
I could actually name them off:
scientists were baffled due to the FACT that there is a day missing in time- how do they calculate this you say? Well when a satellite, or something orbits the earth- they have precise time on the object. If you know, the Bible mentions God taking a day out of time. They found the ark. hm...yes, very much so physical evidence;in each country they have documents of a "giant flood". Its all there, look it up, and look it up the in Bible.
And Im not saying everyone hasnt looked through the Bible for certain cases, but to back up yalls theory on post modernism, you should read the Bible.
Allan Sandage(was an amazing astronomer), before his death, became a Christian from his research. Many scientists have.
The Bible wasnt something to just have written in a few years like most religions or beliefs.
Others like Sir Issac Newton believed that what they strongly studied had to do with a much greater being, that being God. Theyd acknowledge that Christianity is indeed extremely compatible with science.
Beliefs they had may not be your own, and nor would you even consider actually studying through it, whether you be scared of finding something out, or just getting peeved off, but I highly reccomend researching like many others. Whether you have already, and still do not believe truth; it is the truth.
Everything that is sought out in science is fragile;
And Martin Luther King wrote-“Science investigates, religion interprets.Science gives man knowledge which is power, religion gives man wisdom which is control.”

†1987©asey† #fundie forum.myspace.com

[On spousal rape]

If you're married I don't think it would be rape...because technically you already consented to sleeping with him when you married him. But that's a different situation. If you are married and don't want to have sex with the person then why'd you marry them?

Philmon TM #fundie forum.myspace.com

your whole Flying spaghetti monster is as believable as the boogie man or other stupid creatures. this religon seems to be just based on a childs creative mind.

This makes me think all younger generations now are full with idiots like you.
No to believe that a spaghetti controls my life is crazy and stupid.

And I have a strong feeling that your joking and don't tell me your not cause I read it twice it seems all most too stupid please go read the bible or jump off the nearest cliff cause no one has use for you that's why your making stupid religons