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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

sniff #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On clinical depression]

While what you are experiencing may simply be demonic attack exacerbated by isolation from a community, it may also be a physiochemical imbalance needing a medical doctor's intervention. Please do look into both courses of action.

tinskysk8 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Well, on a personal standpoint and being a Christian the only literature I need to read to understand there is proof that Jesus existed and that He had a brother named James is the bible. I dont care what the scientist have to say, I dont care what the LA times has to say..or any person out there. I have my proof and that is why I believe.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

as for sex NO, I repeat, No 13 year old should be having sex under any circumstances. No, I repeat, No condoms should be given out at ANY schools elementry through High School. IT IS NOT THE GOVERNMENTS JOB to teach my kids anything about sex, provide condoms or anything of the sort. I will never allow the state to come close to teaching my children about sex. I remember when I was in Sex ed, they had a whole chapter on the joys of different sex positions...that is not a joke....I was in 7th grade, That is outrageous!!!!! Do NOT give my children condoms or any of their friends condoms, because it's like saying "hey, your not old enough to have a car, but here's the key's to the car with the door open and no ones looking, c'mon kid get inside, no one will know" I don't think so!!!!!! not my kids!!!!

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

But if you want to hear un-biased news reporting try drudgereport.com (reports all stories) and foxnews.com, yes o'reily and Hannity are biased, but their regular news is 100% fair. CNN has liberal and repub commentary also and you wouldn't get news from that, but CNN's regular
news has a serious Clinton lean! Good thing hardly anyone watches CNN anymore! Fox news is #1 because people can tell when they are being lied to.

sniff #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If I were to serve you dinner, and you asked for table salt, or sodium chloride, and I gave you sodium and chlorine, I could go to jail (if you inhaled too much chlorine). There is a substantive difference between the parts and the whole - most people recognize that. Once a sperm has fertilized an egg - everything is there, it is whole, just immature.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

It is illogical to have linear logic. However it may have truth in it, you will never find the complete answer.

With Circular logic, you have your back up, and as long as that back up is uninteruptabed, it is perfected 100 with truth, making it wise, which makes it truth.

EternalWarrior #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ghosts are everywhere. I think a lot are good though. I have been walking in my house late night in the dark, and saw a quick glimpse of something. Not sure what just did. Guardian Angels. But as 4 evil ones, i dont know. I know the devil is real and can pollute peoples minds!

drummachine #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Science has shown that were made out of dust just like the bible and they have also done experiments in trying to prove evolution but they failed. Also many tests year after year the age of earth would change. 4 billion, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, etc. years. Rescently they have discovered that the universe is made of subtomic particals.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

is that why people see visions of hell. or possesions. or that scientists have discovered a place in the center of the earth that is a perfect condition for hell(which is where many christians believe it to be). read the book by mary k. baxter "a divine revelation of hell"---ull see what im talking about.. in the 1970s for 40 nights she was given a guided tour of hell and was told to write a book about it.(dont argue back before you read it)---also talk to someone who has seen visions of it.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Just because women have learned to read and write and become well familiar with the law doesn't give them the authority to teach. God said it was a shame for women to speak in church. Are you saying just because women have become equal with men then God has changed His mind? God doesn't change His mind. He is the same always. Furthermore there is no verse in the Bible that gives women authority to teach even when circumstances change.

That's just the way it is.

datgurl11 [TPF] #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

there is no "i was a christian". there is no such thing. you either are or you arnt. let me explain something...and its called SURETY. there is one thing that i have, that you dont...and its called SURETY. i have TOTAL SURETY. let me repeat. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND WHATSOEVER THAT JESUS CHRIST IS REAL. you CANNOT change my mind. absolute SURETY. that, my friend, is called faith. Do you have that? if you had that, then you wouldnt be on this website, asking people questions.

Arctic Fox #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

When it comes to issues concerning women and the church, we have to obey the standards and precepts God sets before us, whether it fits with the worldly opinion or not. Currently the world believes that men and women are "the same," and should not have separate roles or positions. They believe in fantasy things like 50/50 marriages, egaliterianism (spelled correctly?), and so forth.

However, God sets forth a different standard. We are to recognize and celebrate the differences that God has created in us by separating us into men and women. We are to recognize our gender-based roles, and to willingly (and not grudgingly) pursue our roles with ambition and godly desire."

"And for those godly women out there who are truly pursuing Christ but feel confused or even hurt by these teachings, there is great comfort in knowing that if you trust in God, He will send a man your way that will not make submission an issue for you. You'll gladly recognize your husband's authority and rest safely in his loving protection and leadership

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I only say fuck science cause it's your ticket to hell. You'll hate science as much as I do if you go.

I don't hate the "truths" of science... just science in general. I remember when I was a young lad doing Chemistry in high school and the whole class would get so excited when we were about to perform an experiment. However, I found doing the experiments more boring than the theory. Yes, physics and chemistry wasted two years of my life where I could've been smoking weed and getting drunk... thus why I have a deep hatred for science.

tinskysk8 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The only thing else I want to say about this is even if this finding turns out to be a hoax, which I believe it is not, there is no denying the fact that Jesus Christ was a REAL person. You don't have to believe that He was the son of God, but you should believe that he existed as a person. If He didnt exist why would we base our calendars off His birth and His death?

datgurl11 [TPF] #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On executing the Maryland Snipers]

i dont agree at all. i hope that those snipers scare the living daylights out of those people. they deserve it. america is not living by god anymore, they are nothing but lying, cheating, robbers. i live in virginia about an hour away from those shootings. and it doesnt scare me one bit. the american court just took away every single possession my dad ever had away from him for no reason whatsoever. iv ran away from home multiple times because of the american court.there is something seriously wrong with america, its not living by gods rules, and therefore its falling apart.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

For some christians, depending on how well the take the bible, and understand/obey it, the more perfect it fits in with its logic making it truth (to them)

Note: This arguement could also be used any other religion that has a book or traditions that are used aside from christianity.

Grace Not Works #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to 'Would you consider women being forbidden to speak in church sexist?']

No, because firstly, that women aren't any less than men because they aren't allowed to speak, and secondly, such a statement would only be made if there is a good reason. Never does the Bible say that women are less than equal.

Amessenjah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

At the point were the baby will 100% die [and kill your wife], in which I don't agree a doctor should say,ever, there would not be much choice would there? But do you let God have control of the situation or do you take human life in your own hands [and perform an abortion]? I guess at that point a person would have to ask themself if they believe in God. Then have faith that God will perform a miracle.

Arctic Fox #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I thought for the longest time that I had a chemical imbalance (or other physical problem associated with depression or emotional instability). I even took two different kinds of anti-depressants. However, in the end, I found that relying on God and trusting His promises given to us through the Bible was the only thing that cured me of my problem. The pills seemed to work a little, but they had side effects and made me feel in some ways "fake" (as if my contentedness was because I was "drugged," which I was). The pills seemed to treat the symptoms, while trusting in God cured me of the problem (the source of the symptoms).

I'd recommend avoiding them.

POD FANATIC GUY #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On a topic discussing whether nudity is immoral]

no nudity is not immoral. It is quite normal and dignifying for a man to show his penis outside while strolling to buy milk. Or a woman to show off her boobs while working, it would make every fellow employee especially the males one to feel excited to go to work. That can either be the worse question ever asked or your probably desensitized from watching porn.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

IT'S SCIENCE MAN!!! It's their love for science. They'd actually rather science have created the universe than God. Science is their life and they love science as much as we love God... so naturally science is what they stand for. Obviously I'm speaking about scientists. I say f*** scinece.

Amessenjah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

It really bothers me when all I ever see on nightly television and the movies is the liberal political agenda. Just like that t.v. show the West Wing. It's like they are trying to glorify and rearrange Bill Clinton's presidency in order to make him seem like a really good person.

isthisforrealorwhat #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ok, seriously, this is really sucky logic. First of all, there are more women who are Christians than men, and not just here, but all over the world. Secondly, the Bible doesn't treat women like trash, it places them where they belong, in submission to their husband, and before everyone jumps on me, take note that the women who were not married were only to submit to Christ and the authority of the land they lived in. JUST LIKE MEN.

And on the topic of WOMAN bringing sin into the world, WRONG. Adam is blamed through ALL of Scripture for the fall of man.

Look at it this way, Eve, SHE had to have a TALKING snake come and tempt her to get her to sin, Adam, all it took was a hot chick saying 'here, taste this'.

Oh, yeah, and the whole 'crutch' thing.... I, along with MILLIONS of other Christians like me, who have come out of the FALSE Religious System in this world, do not, believe in this 'hell' place, serve God out of Love for Him, not fear.

The excuse that God is a absentee landlord, tyrant, torturous, cruel, (etc.) being up in the sky is a crutch for athiests and agnostics, to give them a good reason not to believe.

So 'hell' is actually a crutch for the athiest, not the Christian.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I know that it is getting close to Halloween so you see ghosts every wear in the stores. That makes me wonder. What are ghosts? They have been documented and scientificaly researched. Evan the most sane people see hauntings. I've taken a tour of an actual huanted house (The Whaley House, San Diego, CA) I know that when you die you go to Judgment Day and so on and so forth. Are these realy spirits of the departed. I was an amateur paranormal investigator and I have seen some pretty wierd stuff. I just want to know what it is. Is it a demon? It could be but demons are monopreasant. Multiple ghosts can be seen. Is there some cross between Heaven and Hell when spirits srill walk the Earth.

TimtheIrishPirate #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I haul my ass out of bed at 5 AM every morning so I can make a living. Before I see a penny of it I pay taxes.

Out of those taxes contraceptives are paid for by me for those who want to fuck but don't want to work."

"Out of those taxes unwed mothers are being paid more for welfare. Once again, they get to fuck, but they're not working and no one is working on their behalf. So I help to bear the brunt of their cost of living."

"Anyone who claims what goes on "in the bedroom" is no one's business is blind. When it comes out of my check, it is my business.

sweet&sour #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[It leads to rape, too!] Your right, the urges you have. If you are 13 years old, playing with yourself, trying to determine whether or not it's right. What in the hell is going to happen 2 years from now, if you can't control these urges you speak of, now?? Hmmm.... As I said, 'Rape? WHO KNOWS.'

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Plus, the bible hasn't yet been proven wrong or fallable. Yes there have been several links and websites saying they have, but shoot guys, there is a website proving that there wasn't a haullacost(sp?) and that all the jews fronted the 6 million deaths to make the germans look bad. If people can be so easily thrown by that one little thing from a huge action that happened, then of course you will be thrown and lead to beleive something about something so minor and detailed.

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Unbelieving parents do not have a covenant with God and are in his disfavor. Their children would not be under a "spiritual blanket" and would face the same punishment as their parents.

I think this idea is supported by the cleansing of Canaan. Joshua was commanded to kill every living thing, which included children and babies. Infants were considered unclean since they were members of a pagan culture that their parents participated. Israeli children were considered clean because they were part of God's chosen culture.

Person-Man #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I dont think poverty is as bad as people may think, though I havent really experienced it myself so how should I know? But if those who are poor wish they had more, is it any different from those who want more and have it, and always want more?

W.Y.R.I.W.Y.S.2 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On Jehovah's Witnesses]

I don't know if i'm wrong, but i heard that they believe that only 144 000 people go to heaven because it's literaly wrote as this somewhere in the bible, while milions of them still anoying people knocking at their door trying to push their retarded beliefs and convert while it seems clear that they're just a bounch of lost dumbfuck who better likes to see their childrens die than to get blood transfusion...

Ander #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Arguing for the veracity of the Columbine martyrdom story about Cassie Bernall after it was exposed as an urban legend]

Hmm.. Maybe things we THINK are PROVEN, are really HOAXES.

In fact, this HOAX existed so LONG, someone wrote a BOOK about it.

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