Gigantic display of the Ten Commandments in new Minnesota jail offends atheist group: ‘Imposing religion’
Question: If you're an atheist, so therefore you do not believe in the first place, why even give a shit?
Let me use myself as an example, though I'm Catholic, I was once going through a mall and saw a Jehovah Witness table set up looking for suckers, looked at it and then shrugged my shoulders and went about my business.
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"The Ten Commandments, much like the Code of Hammurabi, were the basic groundwork for law.”
"I disagree because it more in the legal context than religious. Such as "Thou Shall not Murder," and it does come from religious tradition but it is a code of conduct. Much like Code of Hammurabi, which also gives us the basis of modern law yet it has a relief of Hammurabi with Shamash the Babylonian Sun God and a relief of the Code resides in the US Capitol.”
"As a Catholic Genesis is merely allegory to us it a nice story, its the Baptists that do the "Earth is 5000 years old" schtick. The difference between the Ten Commandment is basis for our legal tradition. Shira is theocratic law impose through the state. The Vatican can be considered a theocratic state because the head of state is the Pope.
For us we invoke or swear to God, like when we take the stand in court or swear an oath of office, but we don't have an official state religion which was intended by the Founding Fathers as they observed the nuisance of state religion."
And this isn't intertwining religion with leadership in anyway? What if you don't believe in God to begin with. Would you force someone then to do it because "legal precedent says you must?"
If you're an atheist, so therefore you do not believe in the first place, why even give a shit?
Because even though we do not believe in the validity of the religion, the assholes who do believe and follow it blindly are still very much real and tend to bully us…
though I'm Catholic, I was once going through a mall and saw a Jehovah Witness table set up looking for suckers, looked at it and then shrugged my shoulders and went about my business.
The difference is that said table was not constantly shoved in your face…
“Question: If you're an atheist, so therefore you do not believe in the first place, why even give a shit?”
Because this is our country, too.
And it’s unconstitutional.
“Let me use myself as an example, though I'm Catholic, I was once going through a mall and saw a Jehovah Witness table set up looking for suckers, looked at it and then shrugged my shoulders and went about my business.”
There IS a slight difference in other citizens recruiting in a public venue and the government imposing their view on a captive audience.
your anecdote would be closer if your kid was in a school where the principal was a Witness and witnessed to the students.
A mall, while public, is not a government facility. A jail is. Governments have the power to use force to get us to comply with rules, including lethal force if they feel like it. When they become associated with any religion, I don’t care which, it means they can potentially use lethal force to get people to follow that religion. That’s what I, and other people who care about civil liberties, worry about when things like the 10 commandments show up in government facilities. The government and the one JW at a table in the mall are not the same thing.
OK, let's put up quotations from the Quran, claim that's insignificant, and watch you shit your pants.
Laws before the Ten. Laws since.
You haven’t read that which is more than just the legislational basis of your country, OP.
It certainly denies the right of that BS to exist outside that court.
Your fee-fees when it’s removed, thus denying more than just your so-called ‘God’ of the right to have an opinion of that which it never had the right to have in the first place? why should we even give a shit?
It’s happened before: elsewhere.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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