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[The rest of the brochure is equally disturbing]

Homosexuality, Islam, and abortion have
something in common. They are three
different colored gloves covering the same
fist. Abortion is a crimson glove (stained
with the blood of our pre-born children).
Homosexuality is a pink glove (stained with
the blood of young men and women given
over to their own lust, and stained with the
blood of nations that approve of such
behavior). Islam is a black glove (stained
with the blood of Christians, Jews, and
anyone else who dares disagree with the false
“god” Allah and his demon possessed
prophet Mohammed). Three different
colored gloves, yet the same fist. It is the fist
of him who robs, kills, and destroys. That’s
right, I’m talking about the devil himself!
We are not unaware of his schemes.

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old comment by Brendan Rizzo

Oh, I've heard of this! I remember a long time ago when some religious group was handing out T-shirts which said, "Homosexuality is a sin, Islam is a lie, abortion is murder". Someone quipped that it is probably impossible to offend more people than that with a single article of clothing. (I guess they never considered the fact that a T-shirt saying "There is no God" would draw the ire of all the billions of religious people around the world.) But I digress.

Ah, bald assertions of association with nothing to back them up. Many Muslims hate gays, and gays have nothing to do with abortion. News flash fundies, not everything that you don't like is connected. But then again, when have you ever listened to us on anything? You're still geocentrists and rape apologists, for cryin' out loud...

old comment by Zeus Almighty

Kittens, volcanoes and pretzels have something in common.
They are different-colored gloves covering the same fist. Kittens are a black glove; sure, they look all innocent, but they are really evil beings that enslave their owners to catering to their every whim. They also are linked to witchcraft. Volcanoes are a red glove, commuicatig god's displeasure with the behavior of his creation. And pretzels are the gold glove, closely linked to Germany just like Hitler. Three different-colored gloves, yet the same fist. It is the fist of him who purrs, destroys and makes us want to drink more beer to quech a salty pretzel thirst. We are not unaware of their schemes.

old comment by JSS

But the religious fundamentalist fist consists of double the gloves...

-A black glove for an empty mind. Critical thought is the work of heretics. There'll be none of that here!

-A red glove for the bloodshed incurred by so-called holy people. From the crusades, to the Inquisition, even in countries like Uganda today and the work of Muslim extremists in nations like Iran.

-A yellow glove to represent the sulfuric, vitriolic statements that come from hatred of those who differ in thought (or sexual orientation), or are skeptical of orthodoxy.

-A white glove to represent the color of the 'holier-than-thou' pedastal. Since religious fanatics are so confident in doing God's work, they know he only speaks to them and caters to their opinions.

-A dark green glove for the militant hypocrisy. Religious conservative groups think the government should regulate people's private lives, but hate liberals because they believe in big government!

-Finally, there's the cute, baby blue glove to represent the 'innocent victim'. People hate what fanatics say so they wonder: Why do they hate our poor innocent and loving god that plans to kill them all at the end of days? Let's also not forget the "persecution" that comes with gays gaining legal rights and non-believers making it into public office. They infringe on the fanatics' window to discriminate and persecute!

old comment by Angua

Why would anyone want to wear three gloves on the same hand? Wouldn't one glove be enough?

Well, unless it was really cold outside and you only had three really thin gloves. But even then, surely it would be wiser to just buy a better pair of gloves?

And I'm pretty sure that wearing wet gloves would only make matters worse if it was really cold outside, and all three of these gloves are wet with blood. Who would want to wear gloves that were soaked in blood. You'd stain just about everything you touch.

Besides, since when does blood come in any color other than red? Well, I suppose that blood not exposed to oxygen can be blue or purple. And dried blood can be brown. Maybe thick and congealed blood might look black, particularly when it's dark out . . . but pink? I have never seen blood in any state that might possibly be considered pink.

There's just so much wrong with this. There's so much stupid in their opinions on homosexuality, abortion, and Islam. But you'd think that they'd at least come up with a decent metaphor to portray all of their fear-mongering propaganda.

But they've come up with the most distracting and nonsensical metaphor I have ever seen. I weep on behalf of the English language.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Homosexuality, Islam, and abortion have
something in common. They are three
different colored gloves covering the same
fist."

So homosexuality, Islam & abortion are evils that are all exactly the same: Rigid. Unbending. Equal.

Okay. So try putting on three hand coverings that are made of a solid material; say, metal (like a gauntlet used in knights armour, but without the joints & hinges), and are all exactly the same size.

[/smartarse]

Moral: Metaphor =/= Reality. Just like your Bible, eh?

@Danarth

(emphasis added):

"@His4life

It's both. It was an type of controller for the Nintendo which didn't work very well.

Now, how is it you managed to phrase a reasonable question with a stupid statement ?"

(*Switches to Doug Piranha mode*):

Oh look. The proven Poe:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74017&Page=3

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=83360&Page=4

has come here with what she thinks is an 'opinion'.

Because anyone who dares to call themself a Christian always obeys the 9th Commandment. Isn't that right, dearie?

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life

"However, the second comment, about wood, was indeed from a troll, not me."

Ahem...:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=83360&Page=4

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74017&Page=3

I suggest you read the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf", dearie.

All it takes is for our admin Distind to do an IP trace. Oh, and re. that previous thread; second comment (about wood) you say...?:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=83360&Page=3

#1324468
His4Life

"That previous remark about erections did not come from me. I don't know who is impersonating me here. Their position is not Biblical. Sex is blessed by God, but it has a proper context according to the Biblical worldview - the marital relationship. Christianity does not teach that it is sinful for a man to have an erection."

#[b]1324170
His4Life

"@The Jamo

The origin of the erection is in Original Sin. Before the Fall, if Adam and Eve got around to procreating, they would have done so without an erection and without pleasure. But now procreation has been corrupted, and people even perform the action with no intent of making babies. But the deed is always sinful which is why we need Jesus."

I'm not exactly a Professor of Mathematics, but even I can see that 1324468 comes after 1324170. Never mind confusing me, you're confusing yourself. Or is neither post from you? Again, all it'll take is for Distind to do an IP trace on the above posts, relative to yours now. I refer you to this thread:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74017&Page=3

Conclusion: You're one of three things:

1- Schizophrenic. Why aren't you taking your meds?
2- A liar (PROTIP: 9th Commandment. Thus, as a Christian, you're going to Hell)
3- A troll/poe/whatever - Thus you've proven that you're no more religious than Richard Dawkins. And even he would never resort to your form of pathetic behaviour.

Either way, your failure is now complete.

@SaneTeenageNerd

"Look, His4Life, everybody knows you're a Poe. You ain't even funny anymore, so please fuck off."

She's now shown herself in her true light: a sad, pathetic attention seeker.

old comment by His4Life

You guys are being unduly harsh to me because I am a believer in Christ. I admitted my idiotic mistake in making a crude comment and then trying to cover it up afterwards, but that does not mean I'm not a Christian or doing my best to follow Jesus. I'm sorry - the comment was out of line and my attempt to lie and cover it up was even more inappropriate. However, the second comment about the erection was truly not from me, and you are welcome to trace the IP address to prove it. There is a difference in that while the first comment was me spouting off in frustration, the second is clearly someone attempting to make me look stupid. Obviously I know that the question about evolution and wood is not about a man's penis, and I do not believe and never have believed that the Bible teaches that it is a sin for a man to have an erection. That is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, I have damaged my credibility here and I deserve your rebuke. However, my comment, while an exaggeration, was biblically based, as the Book of Daniel does teach that the unsaved will be sodomized on the day of judgmenet. The second comment (about "wood") was not biblically based and was nonsensical.

I am sorry. I know who and what I am - a wretch in the eyes of God, even though a wretch forgiven - and I am woman enough to admit it. I hope you can forgive me. I don't think there is anything more I can say or do in relation to your comment, anon-e-moose.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life

"Ok, give me an example of how I misinterpret the Bible."

Oh, you don't need to:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

...it misinterprets itself.

But then, what should we expect from something that shapes the mindsets of right-wing Fundamentalist Christians? Their very own 'Word of God' is chock-full of lies. And not only lies, neither:

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Jim Bakker. Jimmy Swaggart. Ted Faggard. Kent Hovind. Tony Alamo. The list goes on...:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals

And it's we Atheists who are supposed to be the depraved, amoral sinners?! Matthew 7:1 ring any bells?

Put your own house in order*, right-wing Fundamentalist Christians, before you can even think you have the right to have so much as an 'opinion' about the activities & lifestyles of others.

'Grace through faith'? 'OSAS'? Oh yes, the preferred doctrine(s) of the right-wing Fundamentalist Christian. It basically gives them carte blanche to continue to be an unjustifiable douchebag cunt, under the facade of still considering themselves 'Saved'. PROTIP: James 2:26. Which means that those who claim to be 'Saved', by definition - and by virtue of their own religious doctrine - has no right whatsoever to even think about lying (9th Commandment, and all that jazz). Thus one who claims to be 'saved', yet lies - and continually does so - isn't saved after all.

Therefore you forfeit the right to be respected, never mind listened to. Least of all think you have the right to condemn and/or be judgemental against others. Like I say: Matthew 7:1.

Consider that, the next time you even think of condemning we Atheists to that so-called 'Hell'.

*- Ah, but if there were ruthless, merciless, hyper-savage, 'guilty until proven innocent' McCarthy-esque witchhunts & show-trials against fundie preachers, pastors etc, to purge any heretic sinners - which spread further to believers as a whole, there would be no right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity left in the US.

Yet, it's they who dare to think that they have the right to be McCarthyistic about anyone else not exactly like them. Oh, the doublethink. Oh, the hypocrisy. Oh, the SHAME!

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life

Yet, irony of ironies, I've somehow omitted to post - in this particular thread - any 'bizzare cartoon images', nor resorted to 'slinging insults' (and before you say so, you are a proven Troll & Poe; and by definition of your past behaviour here in FSTDT, you're not exactly psychologically balanced, are you?). Indeed, why should I, when it comes to discussing the Bible in an objective way?

Because the objective facts of the Bible's own unjustifiable lies (ergo, the unjustifiable way of thinking, mindset & doctrine/behaviour of right-wing Fundamentalist Christians) speaks for itself.

And as for 'changing the subject', via their own unjustifiable cherry-picking of Biblical Scripture...:

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...has right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity shown itself as the unjustifiable religion it really is. By changing the actual meaning behind Scripture: Love your fellow man (or woman); never be judgemental about anyone else, and do good works to help those less fortunate than you. Period. Finito. That's all. Frankly, Humanism is infinitely more Christian than right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity will ever be, with it's insane adherence to 'Grace by Faith only' and 'OSAS'.

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