GeorgeBergoglio #fundie

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Is the name "reverse mathematics" uninformative and relativistic?

angels can grasp truth immediately and luminously without syllogisms or ratiocinations (summa theologiae prima pars, question 58). So for an angel, doing human mathematics would be "reverse mathematics", finding whether a truth is provable in a system accessible to mere mortals like ZFC. So it seems like the term reverse mathematics is either endorsing relativism or denying the existence of angels. I suggest an alternative name would increase interest and avoid these errors.

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Shit that makes no sense about shit he doesn't understand vs. shit that doesn't exist.

reverse mathematics

AKA scitamehtam.

...what?????

What?

How many angels can prove a theorem on the head of a pen?

If humans have to use calculators to do maths that the angels can do in their heads, that doesn't make the maths any different. Just the steps are drawn out. So it's not 'reverse maths,' it's just, you know, "Maths."

This would be like referring to a grown-up wading across a kiddie-pool as 'reverse swimming.'

I suggest an alternative name would increase interest and avoid these errors.

Right!

And I suggest: “get a life!”

…Wut?

I actually think I understand what they’re getting at here.

They’re claiming that humans use mathematical formulas to find answers, and angels use answers to find mathematical formulas. To which I respond: prove it.

The very moist Stephen Fry knows what the actual Answer to the Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is: as he was told it by Douglas Adams, who - upon realising what it actually meant - said it was so obvious when one thought about it.

But he swore to Douglas that he would take that Answer to the grave with him.

So: those 'Angels' had better start replying to your prayers: for if their 'God' knows everything, he would therefore be as backward as the Bugblatter Beast of Traal if he couldn't tell at least them what '42' actually meant.

Hey Georgie, you sass that hoopy Stephen Fry? There's a Frood who really knows where his towel is!

@Anon-e-moose

Personally, I feel like I could use a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster or two after reading that quote.

So for an angel, doing human mathematics would be "reverse mathematics", finding whether a truth is provable in a system accessible to mere mortals like ZFC

1. I am pretty sure that would still be mathematics.
2. Would that not be covered by that Cosmic Instant Super-Cognition, too?

Also, I find it funny that, despite Monotheism, in Christianity, even the angels have more Cosmic Sue Attributes than even the chief gods of most mythologies…

Mixing made up stuff with mathematics does not go well.

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