In November 2023, Disney posted its first clip from the movie “I’m a star.” The words of this song are based on evolutionary naturalism (atheism) to teach kids (and everyone) that everything came from star dust! But this is nothing new.
We’ve heard so many times from secular groups in the USA like the Freedom from Religion Foundation (FFRF) or the Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AU) that students in science classrooms in public schools can’t be taught about creation, as that would be teaching religion in government-funded schools. And yet, such secular groups do support students being taught religion in the public schools. In fact, the government is actually allowing a religion to be imposed on public school students and using tax dollars to do it.
Imagine if public school students in their science classes were encouraged to worship the sun. And yet this is happening! But how do they get away with it? Well, they just call worshipping the sun “science,” and then claim they can teach this “science” in the public schools! Really the Disney song mentioned above is all about worshipping the sun and stars.
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I highly doubt that is Disney's goal or intent with that song or movie.
The movie is called Wish, by the way, Ken. I think the song is like the movie's title are both plays on "when you wish upon a star." I seriously doubt Disney is trying to shove the "we call came from star dust" idea onto children n this movie.
Science isn’t religion. Scientific theories aren’t religion. We don’t worship Darwin or Gould or Hawking as prophets. I know you see it that way because you’re very religious and aren’t able to step outside your own box and look at things from other perspectives. Thankfully not all religious people are like that!
When you say that science is a religion (or evolution, etc) it shows your fundamental misunderstanding of it. We don’t base things on ‘faith’ like you. Faith is believing in an invisible being despite no proof of such. I know some of you say you have proof, but it’s debatable and based solely on interpretation. For instance, you might think you see an image of God on an enchilada, others might just see an over-cooked enchilada. But science is based on observations of the natural world. We know that we breathe O2 . We know that water is made of 2 hydrogen molecules and one oxygen. We know that lots of trees are taller than humans and lots of plants are shorter. Those are provable facts. That is what science is based on. That is why it is not a religion.
@Sasha #181283
The word "secular" means "non-religious". You can no more have a secular religion than you can have boiling hot ice cubes.
That’s more out of http://www.creationtheory.org/Essays/Phrases.xhtml
Secular
Normal Person's Definition (From Merriam-Webster)
a: “of or relating to the worldly or temporal”
b: “not overtly or specifically religious”
c: “not ecclesiastical or clerical”
Fundie Definition: “Anti-religious.”
Note: since fundies view religious freedom in such a manner that it should inevitably result in special legal privileges for the pious, it should come as no surprise that they view secularism (an inherently religion-neutral approach to governance) as the enemy of religion.
In reality, secularism actually benefits the freedom to choose one's religion by preserving the essential divide between religion (which should never use force) and government (which is empowered to use force).
Walt brought in no less than NASA’s chief rocket engineer & space scientist Werner von Braun to make episodes for his TV series “Disneyland” to explain how people would explore outside the bounds of Earth: to, as JFK said in a later speech, the Moon and the planets beyond. Said speech was several years after said TV episodes: in the mid-late 1950s.
And of course, planetary systems revolve around stars .
von Braun was a very religious man. As was a certain someone else who saw our star - Sol - from places outside of the bounds of Earth: through the window of the Apollo 11 Command Module and the Moon. Not long after the Eagle - their Grumman LEM - had landed on the Sea of Tranquility, said man performed the first religious ceremony on another world: he took Communion as a Presbyterian Christian .
If Dr. Buzz Aldrin then could reconcile his Conservative Christian beliefs with more than proven scientific facts in 1969: and still does to this day what’s your excuse Hambone…?!
Pretty sure you don’t have to be an atheist to think that we’re starstuff.
That's nice, Ken. It was When You Wish Upon a 🌟, when I was a kid. My religious mother taught it to me, she certainly didn't worship Sol Invictus.
“Imagine if public school students in their science classes were encouraged to worship the sun. And yet this is happening!”
KNowing how a nuclear reactor works does not mean we worship the reactor, radioactivity, uranium, orcontrol rods.
You guys keep trying to make everything into a religion, until the word just means ‘any coherent collection of related human activity.’
Could almost make a case that creationists worship the misuse of the word ‘worship.’
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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