@Taln_Reich

dobby & CryingInYourInbox #transphobia ovarit.com

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( dobby )
These TIMs brag about becoming “weaker” (or faking being weak) and fetishize the terrifying feeling of helplessness that biological women feel when we’re reminded of our physical limitations. They treat it like a joke.

I hate them so much. I hate all males.

( CryingInYourInbox )
This is why males taking HRT should be illegal. You shouldn't be allowed to make yourself weaker on purpose

( dobby )
Honestly I don’t really care if males are taking HRT, especially if it makes them weaker or sterilizes them. I’m not okay with tax-payers footing the bill for their fetish or the strain that these cosmetic procedures put on the healthcare system, or with these males thinking that taking HRT allows them into women’s spaces.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

conversion therapy is ok when we do it
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( pennygadget )
So its "bigoted" if a parent doesn't want to castrate their 5 year old for acting a little "too gay"? Its bigoted if they want their 12 year old to wait until they're an adult before making permanent changes to their body? It's bigoted if a parent tells their teenage daughter, "Its okay to be a butch lesbian. You don't need to take drugs and cut up your body"?

The "trans community" is a fucking cult. They're WORSE than the old Christian conversion therapists because at least those assholes didn't castrate they gay & lesbian people who fell into their clutches

( Carrots90 )
“Exist”

perverts invading women’s single sex spaces and the daylight theft of our hard won rights

( Ava )
I don't think trans-ID'd people are evilly rubbing their hands together and laughing about how they're gonna convince gay kids to transition. But their ideology is rooted in sex stereotypes, and it does make GNC kids vulnerable to believing they're "trans." A preference for activities associated with the opposite sex is literally a symptom of "gender dysphoria."

There are detransitioners who've spoken about how internalized homophobia motivated them to transition. It may not have been the trans movement's intention to harm these people, but they were harmed nonetheless.

Trans-ID'd people aren't just "existing" when they're pushing the message that a desire to be the opposite sex means you're "trans," without even encouraging you to reflect on where that desire could have come from.

( Persimmon64 )
Yeah, the whole ideology is built in homophobia. "Trans" kids came about because homophobic parents took their GNC little boys to clinics to be "assessed" or examined because they were feminine and claimed to be a girl.

A loving parent would realize, yeah, he's probably going to be gay and he's a kid so he doesn't understand sex and sexuality yet, just the fact that all the girls he sees behave and look a certain way and the boys he sees do the opposite, so he's coming to the conclusion that he must be a girl too because kids are extremely superficial yet and have large imaginations.

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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

For a group that claims that the existence of infertile women means that female can’t be defined, they sure spend a lot of time complaining about how they can’t get pregnant
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( RusticTroglodyte )
It actually delights me that they so desperately want something they can't have. It makes me so happy to know they're suffering bc of it. Die mad, scrotes

( Wsbfom01 )
Their desire to be pregnant comes from a fetish, not a sense of nurture or care for children. They’re disgusting.

( StopThisMadness )
Doesn't want kids but wants to "carry a child" -- fetish.

( SuddenlyRamen )
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Trauma appropriating wankers.

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
Babe wake up a new sticker idea just dropped

TWAW - trans women are wankers

( MaryDyer )
Why do you feel like less of a woman, boys? You’ve made it pretty clear that “woman” is meaningless and is merely a nebulous feeling. Why be so butthurt over not being able to get pregnant, when it’s apparently “bioessentialist” to include reproductive capacity in any form in a definition of woman? Hell, even in a definition of female? That’s right - you people have done your damndest to erase any mention of sex from the definition of female.

Yet here you are blowing snot because you can’t get pregnant. Why would you do such a thing? You’ve ensured that reproductive anatomy and biology have been uncoupled from woman, to the point that infertile females are likened to full on, reproductively-healthy males.

Now you seem to be…backtracking? Why? Is it because you know, despite what rhetoric you spread, that infertile women of a certain age are an anomaly, and you want to be a typical woman? Oh how sad for you. 😢

( mathlover )
I feel infinite relief that, once they "trans" most of the larping men will never have children.

( Understanderson )
Oh my god, this is just soooooo creepy. I hate that we're not allowed to notice how creepy it is!

samsdat #transphobia ovarit.com

"Gender-affirming care" is self-harm
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It seems blatantly obvious, doesn’t it? I understand how people who haven’t given an ounce of thought to it can go along with the idea that “gender affirming care” is good for “trans kids” and that “trans kids” are even real, but as soon as you start thinking it through, the whole concept falls apart and it becomes clear that the trans-identified teenage girls are the biggest victims in this movement. And the mental health industry, particularly the APA, but also the counseling and therapy professions, are glibly helping destroy these young women (and no, I know it’s not everyone, but if the majority are against it, they aren’t speaking out).

And ordinary people are also helping it along, particularly the most outspoken “allies” out there, the ones who actually have no personal skin in the game, no “trans” kids, no transing themselves, just an “I know better than everyone else and I’m going to make the world a better place, because I am Good and Kind, and damn the torpedos (and the truth and the well being of children and anything else that stands in my way)” self-righteous attitude. If it weren’t for the vehement allies being such enthusiastic flying monkeys for the whole trans movement, this whole damn movement would have fallen apart due to mockery and honest debate a while back.

various commenters #transphobia #homophobia ovarit.com

RE: Gay men angry with Rad Fems for not doing enough about TIFs in their spaces

( Spencer_Shayy )
Gay men, the men who stayed quiet at best when their brothers-in-wigs began invading our spaces and threatening to rape and murder us, or who smugly cheered it on at worst, now what us to give a shit when straight little fujoshi women do it to them?

Gay men, who gave me and so many other women shit for focusing on women's rights in addition to gay rights? Who called me TRASH for doing so?

Gay men, who have constantly treat lesbians like shit throughout history even though we were the ones who helped you during the AIDs crisis when everyone thought touching you would infect them?

I hate these creepy homophobic TIFs almost as much as I hate TIMs, but this is karma.

"Transgender" is a men's movement. You're damn right I'm going to blame men. Gay men are just as misogynistic as straight men, hell, gay men makeup some of the "trans" population. You're all to blame - every single one of you, no matter your race or sexuality.

To any gay men who may be lurking here - FUCK YOU! Reap what you sow.

( mathlover )
Gay men were the reason the T was added to the alphabet soup. When this occurred the vast majority of "trans" were gay men, with the het men mostly avoiding the gay spaces where they felt unwelcome (they did not want to be thought of as gay men). Adding the T to LGB was done largely by stealth so the gay men could get their gay male buddies into LGB community centers and other services.

If gay men get rid of the T completely, the larping women will go as well. The balls are in their (gay mens) court.

( Ceibo )
Have gay men helped lesbians and women in general keep their personal spaces TIM-free? Have they given us their support? No? then they need to STFU and GTFO. TIFs are far less dangerous than TIMs anyway.

Men are the fucking worst, gay, bi or straight.

( Megasaurus )
Gay men can just tell TIFs to fuck off and 90% of them will just run away and cry. Lesbians who tell TIMs to fuck off have to worry about getting hurt by narcissistic, enraged Buffalo Bills. Because of that, gay men have been able to defend their spaces much more effectively.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Utah House passes bill calling for bathroom use according to gender on birth certificate

( BlackCirce )

If someone fully transitions to the opposite gender — and changes their birth certificate to reflect that change — they also could use the bathroom that corresponds to their new gender.

What does “fully transition” mean?

( BondiBlue )
Governments need to stop letting these institution-destroying radicals normalize and facilitate mass public records fraud. Changing one's name is no big deal (as long as the previous name is not obliterated; there is no such thing as a "dead name"). Changing one's birth certificate however, is the definition of a lie. What's to stop people from changing their birth year if they can alter their sex (not "gender") on official documentation? I am in my late thirties, but I don't identify with (stereotypes of) millennials or (stereotypical) "millennial culture"; do I have the right to change my birth year to the generation I identify as? If that's the case, then from now on, my pronouns are ok/boomer.

( Moonflower )
100% this. Retroactively editing birth certificates to make them say the literal opposite of reality should not ever have been on the table.

( Persimmon64 )
And how does one transition "gender"? I thought they already were their "gender" so they were trying to change their body to "match it." But if they already are their "gender" why do they need to transition to the opposite?

And how would they know what bathroom corresponds with their gender when bathrooms are separated by sex.

If they're separated by gender then I have no idea where to go because I don't have a "gender"

( cranberrysalad )
Someone made a great point recently in a comment on Ovarit that really stuck with me. I wish I remembered who and what thread. Anyway she said that altering the birth record alters the reality of others. The mother who gave birth to a son that is now changed to a daughter—how is it okay to alter her lived experience? It’s not just the TiM/TiP that is impacted.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: TIM works at the coffee shop I frequent and now the whole vibe is ruined

( Pickles )
There is a TIM that works at a sandwich shop I used to frequent and had to quit going because his attempt at mimicking a woman's voice was so incredibly unnerving to me and he always worked the cash register. The voice and impression he put on was actually frightening to me. Minor inconvenience for sure, but I don't hear other demographics of people who need to quit going to establishments because they have employees who openly put on offensive impressions of them. It really is bullshit we have to put up with it.

( CupOfAbominations )
Oh yeah that'd put me over the edge; the fake voice they put on is even worse, esp when they do things like exaggerating vocal fry. "Thankfully" this guy doesn't even try to affect a female voice, but he's so loud and he's always talking I just can't take it anymore...

( overanddone )
I hear you. There is a TIM clerk in a store I frequent, and I try to avoid him.

BUT! His mere presence means I have to consider him whenever I am there. I can’t relax, have to watch where I am looking and control my face, so the experience of shopping there has become slightly tense and no longer comfortable.

Is there a suggestion box at your coffee shop? Can you prepare and slip in a comment that loud political talk is ruining the once-pleasant vibe?

( Radishe )
Just having a TIM working in a coffee shop (there seem to be a lot of them, I had one today) puts me on my guard because I'm concerned it could escalate over any thing. I am always polite, I don't "sir" them, I don't look at them much, just place my order, but it still makes it less comfortable in there. It would be worse if he started going on about politics like that.

I bet his coworkers can't stand him either but have to suffer in silence.

( Spencer_Shayy )

"because I'm concerned it could escalate over any thing."

Literally why I hate working with "transwomen" and hate going to businesses staffed with "transwomen". They're ticking time bombs waiting for any excuse to fly into a violent rage. I actually feel safer around men who aren't "transwomen".

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

I’m going to be sick. Wtf did I just read?
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( WitchPlease )
I highly doubt that any woman would allow her porn sick brother to feed toxic discharge to her kids. This is a disgusting fantasy.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
I highly doubt most women would even know what "Hormones" in what dosage to get to help with lactation. These TiMs don't get it, what is a natural process for women is a chemically induced freak thing to a male body, and when something similar is done to animals, it would be considered animal abuse.

( Uber )
No fucking way did this EVER happen. I can never imagine any situation where a woman would allow anyone else to breastfeed her child, certainly not a man. And I'm sorry, I thought we were calling it chestfeeding now? Or is that only reserved for the sex that naturally grows breasts?

There's no way in hell that even if this DID happen (which it did not), there would be any nutrients to speak of, unless we're considering unnatural synthetic chemicals nutrients, now? I can't keep up.

( CupOfAbominations )
I'm relieved that this is probably 99.9% fanfiction, but this is so gross to read. No sane mother would put her newborn's health at risk to validate her weirdo TIM brother's delusions. It's all about him, all about his "biology dysphoria" without any concern over what would be best for the baby! Surely a naturally lactating mother's milk would be the most nutritious thing for the baby than whatever gross milky discharge is coming from his nipples!

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Maine pushes to become 'transgender safe haven' where minors can receive sex-change surgery and can't be returned to their parents - as outraged community leaders try to slow efforts | Daily Mail Online

( ProfTerfMom )
Rep. Katrina Smith (R-Palermo) said: 'The state should never place itself above a loving parent and irreparably destroy the reproductive health of a minor child.'

Why isn't this common sense???

It terrifies me that any adult believes it is ok to give minors drugs and surgery based on what is essentially a self-diagnosis. The implications (and complications) will affect these kids for the rest of their shortened lives.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Right? Many of these detransitioner stories are them deciding to be "trans" as kids or teenagers and regretting it in their 20s. These kids didn't even get to reach adulthood normally. They'll be mentally and physically fucked for life. "Gender affirming care" is so evil.

( RusticTroglodyte )

The 'Act to Safeguard Gender Affirming Health Care' would enable certain out-of-state teens to access hormone blockers or surgery without their parents' consent regardless of their own state's laws

Do they fucking hear themselves???

Aside from the permanent medical damage these kids will endure, the foster care system and orphanage (group home) system is rife with abuse. This is brilliant: take vulnerable children with low self esteem, remove them from their support systems and primary caregivers, and put them in the system hundreds or thousands of miles away.

Nothing could possibly go wrong with that. I'm sure none of these sexually confused children will be preyed upon

( OxyToxin )
So you want to trade a reputation for delicious blueberries and lobster for the title of pedophile Mecca? Jealous of California getting so much attention?

These people are deranged.

BlackCirce & westhead #transphobia ovarit.com

( BlackCirce )
The stereotypical heterosexual relationship is the AGP working a high powered and/or male dominated job while practicing his perversion in private for many years while his wife raises their children. Then he comes out dramatically as a woman and there is a photoshoot where he towers over his beleaguered wife in his size 15 high heels and clothes he stole out of her closet while she tries unsuccessfully to hide the 1000 yard stare she’s developed while trying to satisfy his gonzo porn inspired sexual desires and keep the secret of his disreputable behavior from family and friends.

Is that what he means?

( westhead )
10/10 perfect description of the AGP lifecycle. Only thing missing is the TIM gets appointed head of some DEI or Women in Tech task force due to being stunning and brave.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Gender Critical v Terf

( VestalVirgin )
Eh, well, "terf" has always been a slur. I cannot begrudge it anyone if they don't want to use that as self-description.

(I don't use it, either, except jokingly. I consider myself a plain old feminist. If I need to clarify, I might add a "radical", but that's it.)

( CruelEnnui )
This so much. People seem to forget that not only is "terf" a slur used to silence women, it is also incorrect in the sense that radical feminists don't exclude trans people - only trans males.

( Unicorn )
Yes. Men are not part of radical feminism because it is a female movement. (They can be allies to radical feminism but not actually radical feminists.)

Transgender-identifying men ("transwomen") are not excluded because they are transgender-identifying, they are excluded because they are male. Radical feminism rejects the upholding of gender, which transgender ideology requires, especially in order to consider a "transwoman" a woman.

( syntaxerror )
Yep. TERFs are fine with accepting “trans men” into feminism, since they are, you know, women. It’s the TIMs they don’t want.

( Spencer_Shayy )
I don't call myself a feminist. It's become so androcentric that I'm embarrassed to be affiliated with it. I prefer "women's libber".

But I like her statement about the three groups because she's right, even if we call them something different. Too many GCers are trying to compromise with trans activists. Placating men is literally why feminism is in such a sorry state.

These people hate you for being female. Their whole ideology ("transgender") is the result of misogyny. They constantly wish us all raped and killed for not validating, supporting, or agreeing with them.

Why do you think making concessions and being diplomatic will change this? Has that EVER changed mens behavior towards women?

( syntaxerror )
I guess technically the TRAs would refer to me as a TERF but that term has long been watered down from its original meaning. They call right wing men TERFs now.

I am not a radical feminist. I am a feminist for sure, but as I’ve said here before I disagree with a few views that can be classified as “radfem” so I would refer to myself as GC if I was required to identify that type of political thinking. But idk I qualify as a TERF with the way the word has shifted so who knows at this point.

BlackCirce #transphobia ovarit.com

GC Purity Politics: A Threat to Unity? - by Noray

I don’t want to go line by line but I don’t know how useful the concept of purity politics is for women. Purity is bad for men and good for women, because women are already too accommodating to interests that conflict with our own.

Politics is about power and when it comes to the trans issue radical feminists are in the weakest position. That’s how we got routed to begin with and it makes sense for radical feminists to be wary of big-tentism because it didn’t serve us in the past. The religious right is in a better position to fight trans because they have more money and clout. “Terfs” are on the very outside of our natural ally group which are far leftists. Collaboration with the religious right is going to cost us something and them nothing. This doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done, beggars can’t be choosers and all that. But it should be acknowledged.

It becomes increasingly difficult to defend GC movements as progressive or pro-woman when people hold increasing tolerance, or platform fascists on a regular basis.

Why does the charge of fascism always come from the left towards us? The “antifascist” left sends men to punch elderly lesbians and gays, sporting shirts that say “a million dead terfs” and shit like that. I hate men who are against abortion and think women’s proper role is in the home just as much as the next RF, but right now, they are not threatening to kill me, “antifascist” leftists are. Abortion is still legal in my state. But I can’t meet with other women and protest on behalf of lesbians. I can’t say women are adult human females or risk my job or even my life. Again I can’t stand conservative men and I’ve never considered them my friends or allies, but the handwringing about “gender critical fascism” turning away women who openly praise left wing men who write fantasies about raping and murdering lesbians and RFs as justified resistance is goofy. These are the same women who march on behalf of Hamas and Hizbollah… they clearly can handle a little diversity of opinion in the movement.

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BlackCirce , justanothernastywoman & syntaxerror #transphobia ovarit.com

Doctor is suspended for refusing to use transgender patient's preferred pronouns - during argument about danger of sex change drugs | Daily Mail Online

( BlackCirce )
This is why the “evil money hungry doctors vs innocent unsuspecting patients” narrative framing is inaccurate. The patients are demanding this treatment against the will of the physicians and doing the most to punish the doctors who say no.

( justanothernastywoman )
The surgeons who do SRS are definitely money-hungry and evil, especially the ones who perform elective surgeries on children, but you're right, the adults demanding these treatments aren't innocent. They're mentally disturbed and delusional.

It's absolutely sick that someone who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars training in school for 8+ years to be a doctor can be suspended for not affirming delusions. Should psychiatrists affirm the delusions of schizophrenia patients, too?

( syntaxerror )
I agree that most (if not all) surgeons in western societies, particularly America and the UK are being forced into this way of practicing medicine on threat of losing their livelihood they spent a decade to work towards and that they’re being told the science is “settled” on the affirmation model, despite what they’re witnessing. We should absolutely be more understanding to the average doctor. I think their hands are tied in a lot of cases, and the ones that do bravely speak out are being silenced and getting serious consequences.

That being said, the surgeons who agree to operate on healthy minors deserve to lose their license at a minimum. No one’s forcing them to do that. And honestly, even surgeons who operate on adults (who often have several mental illnesses) need to be heavily scrutinized as well.

TheKnitta & NastasyaFillipovna #transphobia ovarit.com

Staff working in rape and trafficking centres are routinely subjected to bullying and intimidation for defending women's rights, report warns | Daily Mail Online

( TheKnitta )
The Rape Crisis Centre I went to for years, that was so adamant at keeping a woman-only space and was so supportive and wonderful, has recently started posting shit like ‘TWAW’ on Facebook. It made me wonder what had gone on internally, because I can’t imagine many of the staff who were there when I was would’ve agreed to that.

Many women from the Middle East used their services, and they had specially trained women for it (languages spoken etc). I can’t see many, if any, of the Middle Eastern women I knew back then using the service now if men are there. Such an important resource for refugee women, trashed for the fetish of a few men in dresses.

The selfishness of men never ceases to enrage me. They’re smirking at this. It’s why they do what they do. It turns them on. Of anyone, I’d have expected staff at Rape Crisis to know this. It’s heartening to hear some women are still standing up for women, at least, but the threats they face are disgraceful.

( NastasyaFillipovna )

It made me wonder what had gone on internally

My guess is they hired some new young staff out of university trained in Social Work, who are completely high on Gender Ideology. Same thing happening to teachers.

( TheKnitta )
I know in the city I lived in previously a TIM from the local university took a very close interest in ‘fundraising’ and ‘helping’ the local Rape Crisis Centre there…while trying to wriggle their way into the staff. No idea if they finally managed it. I hope not, but if my local Rape Crisis is anything to go by, you’re probably absolutely spot on. All the work women built up over years, chucked away for a few pervert men in dresses. It’s enraging.

various commenters #transphobia #ableist ovarit.com

RE: Almost every single time - AUTISM
( pennygadget )
IMO, this trans fad is a sinister way to castrate autistic people (mainly autistic kids). Its so much easier for a clinician to tell an autistic girl that testosterone will magically fix her problems instead of helping her work through her issues and learn to adapt to society

( RusticTroglodyte )
I agree. It's a convenient way to get ppl who are autistic, or same sex attracted to self-sterilize

( PracticalMagic )
Honestly call me a nasty old woman but I am growing so BORED with neurodiversity. Everyone and her dog is neurodiverse now. It's become meaningless and at worst a set of excuses to do nothing.

Autism is a real thing of course but it's bwcome the left handedness of the 2020s, something everyone suddenly wants because it's more "creative".

( OverTheWall )
Same. Its kind of to a point where we’ve determined that, yes, every brain is an individual and works in a speshul individual way, and maybe people learn and function differently than one another.

But the neuro-divergent bubble wrap sad marshmallow gang just went full stupid with this concept and use their differences as an excuse to not try hard at anything and just give up on learning to function or even thrive.

Hell, I feel like a neurodivergent diagnoses is a self fulfilling prophecy. None of them seem turn their differences into anything positive or take the information they learn about how their brain works to be better, even just at one specific thing, but instead just cry “I can’t do that because I’m NeUroDiVeGenT”.

( Bml7864 )
Yes, but I wonder how many have been diagnosed vs self diagnosed. In today's society, people are using "I'm autistic" or "I have ADHD" as a get out of jail free card to act however they want without having to work on themselves.

( VestalVirgin )
True, but I do think many of the girls who trans have autism.

It would explain why they fall for the lie that it is possible to have a sex-change surgery (and other lies TRAs tell) so easily: They don't expect to be lied to.

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Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

The Lavender Scare

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I sometimes think of the parallels between the Lavender Scare and the modern day "trans" movement, and I wonder:

What is the difference between the government demanding I lose my job for being a homosexual and a trans activist demand I lose my job for be a "TERF" (homosexual)?

What is the difference between being called "morally weak" and a "sexual deviant" by conservatives and being called a "genital fetishist" by trans activists who constantly imply, if not outright state, that I am "morally weak"?

What's the difference between the government's tests for homosexuality and trans activists tests for "TERFs"?

What;s the difference between men pretending to be gay to get out of the draft and young people pretending to be "LGBTQ" to get out of being seen as straight or "cis"?

What's the difference between McCarthy's blacklists of "subversives" and modern trans activists blacklists of "TERFs"?

What's the difference between McCarthy era bureaucrats interrogating possible homosexual employees and trans activists interrogating possible "TERFs"?

I'd really, really like to know.

"It has also been suggested that contemporary attitudes towards LGBT people in America have been shaped by the Lavender Scare. The 'Pervert Elimination Campaign' and the criminalization of gay men existing in public spaces demonstrates how attitudes towards LGBT people during the Lavender Scare shifted towards intolerance in public spaces. Brandon Andrew Robinson has suggested that this criminalization of LGBT people in public spaces has impacted how LGBT people now exist within America. [...]"

No. It was not "LGBT". It was HOMOSEXUALS targeted by the Lavender Scare. The Lavender Scare influenced everyone's attitudes on HOMOSEXUALS, including "trans" people, who often seem to hate us MORE than regular old conservative straights.

I don't want "trans" people to think for a second that the Lavender Scare had anything to do with you. It didn't. You were among the ugly, sniveling little assholes hounding us out of our jobs and forcing us into heteronormative institutions back then, just like you are now.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Trans "women" are still required to be registered for the US draft.

( WatcherattheGates )
So, in the end, the government actually does know sex is more important than gender.

( MiMi2013 )
Which makes me wonder exactly why DC is so eager to force trans "girls" aka BOYS into the spaces reserved for actual girls at our schools. It almost seems as if they know they're putting real girls at risk by playing these semantic games, and as if there's some secret, sinister motive behind it...

( Iceni )
Sure.

If TIMs inconvenience women the United States government doesn't care. If TIMS inconvenience the United States government, the US government cares.

( Hollyhock )
There were a few wildly naive stories on the poor TiPs in Ukraine. One was told about a poor TiM who couldn't leave the country because he was a 6'2 20something male. How could he fight as 'a girl' ? I don't know, maybe use your upper body strength to help carry victims on stretchers to the hospital? Another was a story about a poor TiF who worried she'd be turned away at the border as she looked male. She wasn't, she was allowed to leave along with her mother, but guess being a man only matters when there's not a war raging.

Meanwhile, teen girls stayed behind to drive trucks and elderly women took training on how to shoot guns. I even read of a mother who brought her two small children to safety in another country where her sister was living, then returned back to fight alongside her husband.

( neonbandit )
These examples are just further proof that one still keeps their male/female privilege while they pretend to be the opposite sex.

The TiF wants to be perceived as male until it means putting her life on the line, then she is suddenly ok with being female. . . a card all the Ukranian men couldn't play, not even the TiM.

The TiM wants to self ID into that female privilege but when a country is under siege, they need all the man power they can get. They can't afford to play into someone's gender delusions. It would also create a massive loophole for deserters to claim trans to get out of fighting. A loophole similar to the get out of men's prison and cheat in women's sports that we have now. But only women are harmed by those loopholes so that's ok!

CupOfAbominations #transphobia ovarit.com

TRAs and semantic bleaching
For those unfamiliar, semantic bleaching is when the strength of a word becomes diluted due to frequent exaggeration, misuse, or hyperbole. A good example is "literally" being used so often in a figurative sense that its "literal" meaning has been softened, no longer holding the same impact.

I see this happening everywhere, especially with the TQ crowd and I've grown to hate it. I hate it because it's led me to start doubting people at face value. They overuse powerful words to create a false sense of urgency for their cause or to drum up sympathy, and I hate it because of the real-life implications of these words taken less seriously.

When the meaning of "child abuse" has been watered down to also include parents that won't give their children puberty blockers, how are genuine victims of child abuse going to get help when social services are flooded with kids that are "traumatized" because their parents won't call them Lilith?

The meaning of "lesbian" has become "non-man attracted to non-men" (while also implicitly including men in skirts in that definition) and real lesbians can no longer trust any space or community that claims to be lesbian.

"Trigger" no longer means something that can induce a severe PTSD flashback or panic attack, but "thing that makes me mildly uncomfortable"

Their use of "genocide" is perhaps one of the most infuriating. There are real, ongoing genocides happening all over the world. Darfur has been repeating history for several months and almost no major outlets are reporting on it. The Uyghurs are one of many, many ethnic minorities in China that are being cleansed. How narcissistic, how out of touch with reality do you have to be to put yourself on the same level as genocide victims because a law won't let children cut off their breasts?

Semantic bleaching of these powerful words is having a chilling effect on our ability to empathize with other humans. It's gradually making us more cynical, more skeptical when people bring up "abuse" and "trauma" and I hate seeing that cynicism grow within myself; an ugly seed that grows each time I see someone stealing these words to wear like accessories so that they can boast about who has the worst life.

[...]

Understanderson #transphobia ovarit.com

Types of trans
One of the confusing things about trying to talk with people about trans is arriving at a shared understanding of what "trans" even means. The word is used to cover such a broad range of different issues. I sat and wrote it down, and will probably make a graphic of the list once I have it finalized (will share!).

Input? Suggestions? Thanks!

BOYS/MEN

- Classic trans (what most people still think all TIMs are): gay men (HSTS) with internalized homophobia (and in some cases misogyny) who are more comfortable pretending to be women. More likely to get surgeries than other types.

- Straight men (AGP) who are sexually excited either just by wearing women’s clothing or by the idea of themselves as women. Usually need to be “validated” by real women to keep the boner going. More delusional about their appearance than HSTS. Comfortable misogynists.

- Sensitive (mostly) young men who find male stereotypes restrictive or don’t want to be part of the oppressor group. Don't understand women.

- Men and boys caught up in sissy porn, anime and gaming. Incel to trans pipeline. View women as "living on easy mode." Overt misogynists.

- Drag queens - can be gay or straight—put on the “woman” with the clothes, parade her before the crowd, and take her off again when they’re done. Love using misogynist slurs when dressed up as women. Generally contemptuous of women.

- Trenders and opportunists

GIRLS/WOMEN

- Stone butches - “Life is just simpler if people think I’m a man.”

- Young, gender non-conforming lesbians. Internalized homophobia and/or confusion about a supposed lesbian community that includes men in dresses that it's bigoted to reject.

- Straight girls and women with internalized misogyny. Want to be loved by men as equals, not fetishized as female stereotypes; want to be recognized for their abilities and accomplishments without first being judged on their fuckability; are completely alienated by the idea of women presented in porn and popular culture and see what their mothers and other older women have been through and want nothing to do with it.

- Trenders and opportunists

Carol Dansereau #transphobia caroldansereau.substack.com

Affirming Trans Identities is Harmful.
Don't do it. And don't teach children to do it either.

There’s a lot of pressure everywhere to affirm trans and nonbinary identities, including those declared by children. Affirmation is touted as kind, righteous, and even lifesaving. Many parents are committed to teaching their children to affirm, seeing it as an extension of the basic respect they want their young ones to show everyone.

But affirmation is not kind, respectful, righteous or lifesaving. It is not benign. In fact, it is extremely harmful to those who are affirmed, and those who do the affirming. This article discusses why, focusing on affirmation with respect to children.
[...]
Affirming children hurts them.

Those who promote the affirmation of children’s trans or nonbinary identities insist that doing so is essential for the mental health of those children. They may even argue that children might kill themselves in response to not being affirmed. These assertions are based in ideology, not science.

[...]

If not affirmed most children who reject their sex, come to accept it. In contrast, affirmation locks children into body rejection. It delivers vast numbers of children to unethical health professionals who implement invasive procedures without any credible evidentiary basis for doing so. By affirming children, you put them at risk of infertility, sexual dysfunction, and a range of other serious health problems, for no good reason.

To make matters worse, there is a good chance that the child you are affirming is among the most vulnerable of children. He or she is likely to be coping with one or more significant challenges, such as mental illness, a history of sexual abuse, and autism. He or she could also well be same-sex attracted and dealing with homophobia. By affirming trans or nonbinary identities you may well push these children towards so-called “gender affirmation medicine” and away from the help they need.

Affirmation bolsters the mystical and dangerous idea that some children are “born in the wrong body.” It ignores not only the specific challenges individual children may be facing, but also the fact that they’ve been subjected to aggressive indoctrination which promotes dissociation from the body.
[…]

terfology , Ava & Wrenn #transphobia ovarit.com

( terfology )
“You Can’t Define Woman Because of XYZ”
“You can’t define woman because _____”!

• “Some women don’t get periods!”

• “Some women are infertile!”

• [Insert other willfully ignorant excuses here]

Ignoring the fact that everyone — including the people making these arguments — are indeed aware of what is a woman and what is a man, its also a miracle that they only seem to misunderstand “the exception is not the rule” when it comes to women’s rights.

Let’s try applying that logic to other things as well, shall we?

Mammals are animals where the females breastfeed their young, among some other qualifications. According to TRA logic, women that can’t breastfeed are no longer mammals.

Humans are bipedal. According to TRA logic, people who have lost their legs or cannot use them are no longer humans.

Humans have two kidneys. If you get rid of one, I guess you’re no longer a person!

It’s almost like… TRAs are full of bullshit, and know exactly what a woman — er, sorry, I mean an “AFAB” — is!

Women who don’t have periods know they are women. Women who can’t get pregnant know they are women. The only women who need reassurance that they are women, aren’t women at all. They’re men.

(Feel free to add more examples in the comments if you want.)

( Ava )
Yeah, "TERFs" don't even claim that fertility is what makes you a woman.

Infertile women still have a female reproductive system. We can see that their bodies would produce viable eggs if not for whatever issue is inhibiting the process. Meanwhile TIMs are never considered "infertile" for not producing eggs, because we can see they have a male reproductive system organized around producing sperm.

Topics like menstruation and pregnancy are relevant to women's rights because only women can experience them, but that doesn't mean all women experience them. But as you said, TIMs are willfully ignorant. I'm sure they can understand this logic, they just think that playing word games will force people to accept them as women.

( Wrenn )
For people who claim to be so scientific, they really quickly forgot the basic premise of a subset.

Here are some to refresh the memory of any lurkers :

[...]

Not all women have a uterus. But all adults with a uterus are women.

Not all men are pornsick AGPs who cut off their penis. But all pornsick AGPs who cut off their penis are MEN!

IrissaIridium , WitchPlease & no- #transphobia ovarit.com

( IrissaIridium )
DAE notice the difference between lesbians' and transbians' responses to being excluded from dating pools?

Lesbians: *completely excluded from being with over 95% of women who are absolutely unwilling to date them*

Lesbians: "It sure does suck to have such a small dating pool! ☹️ I wish I could meet more compatible lesbians to date."

Transbians: *completely excluded from being with less than 1% of women who are absolutely unwilling to date them*

Transbians: "SUCK THE LADY DICK, DYKE! 💢👊💢 KILL ALL TERFS! DIE CIS SCUM! *slithers off to Preddit to post another sour grapes post about mean, ugly dykes/manifesto about lesbians unpacking their sexual biases and genital fetishes/payback rape fantasy against lesbians*"

Nothing says "I'm a man" quite like thinking you're entitled to sex and getting argumentative, aggressive and violent when you're told "no" by a tiny sliver of the population you'd like to have sex with.

(I know plenty of straight and bi women are unwilling to date TIMs too but my point is that lesbians are the only group TIMs have absolutely no hope of being with and they can't even handle the rejection of a tiny population of women without losing their shit).

( WitchPlease )
I find it very funny how they demand to bee seen as ~real lesbians~ and that lesbians date them, but they get upset that their "lesbian" spaces are filled with sausage. They barely pretend to believe the thing they demand everyone else to believe. They know they are men, they know others like them are men, but lesbians are not allowed to notice that.

( IrissaIridium )
I notice they don't go hard against other transbians who only want to be with real women. I've heard TRAs make some weak noises about "internalized transphobia" but it's nothing like the heavy bombing campaign against lesbians. I think their main objection to transbians saying "no T4T" is that those transbians are saying the quiet part out loud and if they're allowed to say that without repercussions, lesbians might get the idea that we are too.

( no- )
If they really believed trans identified men can be lesbians, they’d stop complaining about transphobic terfs who won’t suck dick and start dating each other.

Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

What do Munroe Bergdorf and Andrew Tate have in common? | The Spectator

Haven't read the article yet, but imo, TIMs and AIMs (alpha-identified males, as I'm now going to refer to them) are just two sides of the same sexist coin of misogyny two testicles of the same scrotum.

They view men and women, not as male and female people with their own individual feelings and personalities, but as stereotypical roles we all play. Everything for them is about image.

Woman = feminine/submissive

Man = masculine/dominant

Women exist to be used by and serve men.

Edit: "two testicles of the same scrotum" I'm using this all the time now. Brilliant.

ImNewHere & overanddone #transphobia ovarit.com

( ImNewHere )
I expect a fair few of you have also been through the sinking, often scary feeling of your female friends deserting you for being gender critical. How do you reconcile it and move on?

Yesterday I posted on instagram stories ‘I’m sick of this. It’s not hard to say woman’ under an article about women’s reproductive health that referred to ‘uterus owners’ and ‘people who get pregnant’ etc. That’s all I said. Within hours I’d had 3 separate girlfriends tell me I’m wrong because transmem aren’t women (nnng!!!), and 2 others flatly say I’m a bigot. A couple have unfollowed me. I’m talking people I’ve known since university.

I know reading this on the screen has a degree of anonymity and therefore it’s easy to say well that’s stupid, find new friends. But obviously it really really hurts too. And it’s really quite alarming to feel that you’re the only person who hasn’t fallen for this emperor’s new clothes lunacy. Most of my friends are the intelligent left-leaning types – like me!

Anyway, how do you mentally cope with it? I’ve been sick to my stomach all day. I’m confident that I’m right and I have a right to my own opinion, but it still doesn’t take away the feeling of “oh shoot, should I have done that?!”

( overanddone )
It's fear. They are afraid. Sad to say, I have many former friends like this. It was painful, but through the pain a few people poked their heads up and said me too. I treasure those people. They are true friends.

I circled the wagons with the few I could trust. And then...I am happy to say we spend time mocking the cult and figuring out ways to poke the beast. They are so easily mocked!

They know we are right. Who could argue with women's reproductive systems and how they affect our lives? Who could argue that a man should strip search a woman passenger in a TSA back room? Who can argue men in women's sports...prisons...hospitals...

We all could go on and on. Your friends know they have to tow the TRA line or be subjected to the same behavior you are receiving. They are scared. And they are not as strong as you are. They may also believe it's a right wing issue, that no one on the left is not enamored of the gender cult. This is so not true.

Find your few friends or family with whom you can be honest. Then have a right good gathering and mock the afflicted. My mother would not be proud that I just said that.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

“Gender-Affirming Care” Is Increasingly Being Recognized as Unscientific

( pennygadget )
Trans is the only mental/medical condition where the patient is allowed to diagnose themselves and decide which medications and surgeries they need. The doctors only exist to rubber stamp whatever they want. That's how you know the whole thing is bullshit

( Persimmon64 )
Trans is the only subculture fad that allows people to get cosmetic alterations and drugs given to them by doctors to enable them to get a certain aesthetic and the only subculture/fashion/fad that not only relies on fantasy, but forces others including the government and our laws, to play along

( SamanthaK )
Our paychecks too. Since gender affirming care is often paid for by the taxpayer.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
In the famous TV show House MD, its a running theme sorta that patiests lie, always. And House never took any patient for face value for what they were saying.

Wonder how they would've handled TiMs

( syntaxerror )
House frequently makes TRAs screech because of that episode where the patient of the week ended up being an XY male with androgen insensitivity syndrome (basically unresponsive to testosterone) making him appear to be completely female. The problem ended up being cancer on one of the patient’s undescended testicles.

House says the ultimate woman is a man and then says that he has cancer on his left testicle and the patient flips out and screams “I’m not a boy, I’m a girl!” It was revealed earlier in the episode that the girls father had sexually assaulted her (sex at her request, but she was supposed to be 15) and then House basically makes a comment about the dad being gay, now.

What I’m saying is, I can promise you House would not have put up with Trans bullshit for even a second. He was offensively blunt and cruel, and didn’t even mince words with a totally female presenting hermaphrodite because he had a Y chromosome

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Normal people being awoken to the crazy shit you people are saying/doing =/= “far right” trying to start a culture war
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( Unicorn )
Nah buddy, people are just sick of being fed bullshit.

And transgenderism is basically a culture war. The entire concept of trans exists on gender—socially, culturally, constructed sex-based stereotypes. Your group has been a "massive culture war" since its inception.

( no- )
“Why do people hate us just for existing?” They ask. No one gave an f about transsexuals before they decided everyone had to pray to their gender god or lose their jobs and reputation. Transgenderism is a lie, a pseudoscientific but profitable fabrication. There’s only so much bullshit and censorship people can take before they get sick of it, especially when it’s causing as much damage as it is.

( ratherbecomes )
That's what gets me. They started the culture war, and when anyone gets involved against it, they accuse them of actually being the ones starting a war.

( OwnLyingEyes )
They think they have some kind of divine right to tear everything down and remake it to suit themselves and are outraged that other people think we have some kind of right to oppose them.

( Exempli_Gratia )
Shit, it's not even just opposition, it's anything short of absolute brainwashed obedience - they want to completely recreate reality and the way we perceive it and we're not even allowed to say, "no thank you, I think I'll stick with my current beliefs and worldview." We have to live in and completely accept and believe their reality or they'll throw a gigantic screaming shitfit.

I'm sick of being asked to submit to the tantrums of grown-ass adults. I refuse to do it any more

( Women1st )
That’s how you silence someone. Call them a racist, transphobe, Karen, whatever.

( pennygadget )
"I don't think kids in public schools should be forced to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and Savior. Its not fair to kids who don't believe in Christianity"

"OMG BIGOT!!! YOU WANT CHRISTIANS TO DIE!!!!!?????"

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Very human problems in the field of gender medicine

( Calidris )
I'd never tell anyone else what they should think, and I definitely do understand where you're coming from.

But I disagree. I am going full on scorched earth and I will call these people what I think they are, evil. If you cannot call the doctors who cut healthy organs off of mentally ill people evil, what is even evil? Thinking you're doing a good thing is not an excuse, as a German I should know, all our Nazis did their crimes against humanity for "the greater good" after all.

( sylviasmushrooms )
I’m an American. I think a big part of the problem is that people literally DO forget that the nazis and their followers were human beings, doing monstrous things… not monsters, unconditionally evil beyond comprehension.

That framing makes it easy for other people in this era doing monstrous things to write it off, because it’s as if a weird sense of determinism is guiding people’s morals. “Only monsters could ever fall into dangerous and damaging ideologies built on hate. I’m not a monster, therefore my ideology with colorful flags is good. We aren’t coercing and suppressing dissenting thoughts and speech, we are defeating HATE, among other monsters, who therefore must be nazis.”

The evil inherent in this must be acknowledged, absolutely, but humans are the only species that just keeps falling for it so I think there’s a lot of truth in this piece.

( Persimmon64 )
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

We have countless movies and books and story arcs covering this very common theme, yet people are unable to recognize it when they are the ones commiting the atrocities.

( Spencer_Shayy )
I'm sure they also used the "greater good" excuse for lobotomies too. They sure as fuck use it for every goddamn war.

( elizamondegreen )
They're doing a terrible thing. That's not the same as doing a terrible thing with terrible intent... but of course very few people do terrible things with terrible intent. Most have to be persuaded by some idea -- however dangerous and deadly -- that they are doing some kind of good for someone (no matter the costs to others).

But where I suspect we agree is that their intentions don't diminish their culpability whatsoever.

FemmeEtal & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

No, she’s not the “other mother” she is THE mother
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( FemmeEtal )
The mommy fetish is probably the most disgusting for me. These men don’t feel maternal instinct, they never felt a stirring in their nonexistent wombs, lactated and fed an infant that came from them. They just have sick twisted desires and disorders about their own mothers and want to pervert the most innocent and pure thing, a child calling for their mother. It’s vile and infuriating.

( Spencer_Shayy )
This is so vile. I hate men.

SlowCollapse & pennygadget #transphobia ovarit.com

1 in 6 Hiring Managers have been told to stop hiring white men

( SlowCollapse )
Not gender-related you may say?

But consider this. There is one and only one way for a 'straight white male' to opt out of that lowest-of-the-low identity. Transition! - and that gets them directly to a triple oppression combo, trans/woman/lesbian, suddenly they're precious 'diverse individuals', in high demand by DEI-driven hiring.

Is the demonisation of the 'straight white male' a factor in the rise of trans identities? This isn't related to anger at men for their violence and mistreatment of women, it's about the weaponisation of intersectionality to create a common enemy of all 'oppressed groups', and lash out at it. It has been enabled by the redefinition of words, 'you can't be racist against whites or sexist against men', the same weaponisation of language that has empowered the trans movement.

( pennygadget )

Is the demonisation of the 'straight white male' a factor in the rise of trans identities?

I absolutely believe that it is. How can a White Man resist doing something simple to take himself from the bottom of the oppression stack to the top? Especially if he runs in leftist circles and it will benefit him in multiple avenues?

Persimmon64 , Uber & RighteousIndignation #transphobia ovarit.com

( Persimmon64 )
New Year's Resolution
I'm done using their language. I'm done playing their games.

My New Year's resolution for 2024 is to stop it all and take my language back.

I'm not calling it "transition" "medical transition" or "social transition" ever again. It's pretending to be the opposite sex. It's cosmetic surgeries, synthetic hormones, and genital mutilation for the purpose of deceiving others into believing one is the opposite sex.

I'm never calling another person "trans." They're men who pretend to be women and women who pretend to be men. The only concession I can make is calling them "trans-identified" as that's what they are, people who call themselves "trans." Otherwise, "trans" is a nonexistent concept that I won't play lip service to any longer.

No more "gender dysphoria." I'm calling it how I see it in different individuals: abusive parents, sexual fetish, low self-esteem, self-consciousness, body dysmorphia, autism, internalized homophobia, internalized misogyny, and plain old sexual perversion and misogyny.

No more "gender." These are sexist stereotypes and expectations we're talking about here.

I would encourage everyone here to stop using their terms as well. The language we use shapes our perceptions of the world around us. I know it will be difficult, as I've become so used to seeing, hearing, and using these terms myself, but I've found the more I do it, the easier it gets.

Any other words or phrases I should eliminate from my vocabulary?

( Uber )
Inclusive. I don't use it but I fucking HATE it, like nails on a chalkboard.

It's not really about different races, religions, nationalities, and sexual orientations (unless they're homosexual males) coming together so much as made up identities, victim mentalities, and people who are severely mentally ill and refuse to take the logical steps towards getting well.

( RighteousIndignation )
inclusive to me is just 1984 doublespeak it means exclusionary, it means threatening and excluding those who do not hold the fascist line.

I wave two fingers at everyone who uses the term inclusive, these people and organizations are creepy AF, its the soft spoken through gritted teeth I hate it, Jeffery Marsh is a prime example of what I mean, he hisses comply or else through a fake smile and childish tone.

Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: 2024 could be the year America's trans bubble bursts - The Post

"The biggest drivers of public opposition to the trans movement has always been trans activists themselves"

I always love when people point that out. I was pro-live and let live for "trans" people until I actually met "trans" people and was exposed to the deranged, vile, hateful beliefs they have. To any "trans" lurkers who may come across this, YOU are the reason I hate you and your evil ideology. Congrats on all the enemies you've made. Really. It's mind boggling. The only "marginalized" group people feel LESS empathy towards the more they get to know you.

"General society is not willing to allow more rights for transgender people"

That's because you have "rights" confused with "privileges". You asking for special privileges (and that's all "trans rights" is) is NOT the same as supporting basic human rights for groups that are ACTUALLY oppressed.

"Public understanding of trans issues was always something activists explicitly avoided"

And here lies the heart of the hypocrisy. "Trans" people are treat everyone else like evil idiots, dangerous animals who are just so ignorant until the "wise" AGP incel or self hating pickme girl comes to "enlighten" us, insisting we'd change our minds if we "got to know trans people". And yet, the only reason your heinous ideology has taken hold in modern society is because of a decades long campaign done BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, with "activists" explicitly telling each other to avoid contact with the public and media. Read the Denton document. We were worried about the wrong fascists infiltrating.

Bring on the lawsuits. Bankrupt and jail every butcher who surgically experiments on people. Remove the licenses of every counselor and social worker who tells someone, especially a CHILD, that they're "born wrong". Fire every teacher who pushes children down the pipeline to sterilization and medical mutilation. Take the children away from the parents who "trans" them. Dismiss every doctor who pushes this heinous science denying ideology on their practice and patients. Drag everyone - regardless of who they are - supporting this hate movement wrapped in a pink and blue how.

It's time to put an end to these conservative-in-liberal-clothing tyrants once and for all.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( MaryDyer )
A common theme from “transbians” on lesbian subreddits
They’re constantly posting about “I just wanna girlfriend”, “why can’t I get a girlfriend?”, “I wanna be someone’s girlfriend”, “how do I get a girlfriend?”

I mean, if it wasn’t already obvious that the vast majority of “transbians” are simply incels trying to re-market themselves, then their posts should be evidence.

1000% desperate incel behavior. It’s pathetic.

( pennygadget )
They could easily solve their problem by dating one another. But they don't because they know that all the transbians are disgusting men. They crave the validation of guilting an actual lesbian into fucking them

Many of these scrotes won't even settle for a pity fuck from a bisexual handmaiden because its not validating enough

( bittersweetcreature )
It is hilarious how none of them seem to be attracted to each other despite their claims to be "real women." Like, their dicks sure as hell can identify women even if their brains claim not to

( mathlover )
"Trans lesbians" are 100% heterosexual men, and remain attracted to women who fulfill male ideals of what women should. They constantly talk about being attracted to straight women and primarily to only very "femme" lesbians

And, yes, there is the also constant whining "I need a gf". Sorry guys, you're stuck with each other. lol

( IrissaIridium )
One of the funniest fucking things to come out of the delusional Trans Lesbians Are Lesbians movement is how the transbians took over the lesbian dating app Her, kicked out all the real lesbians for being TERFs and now do nothing but sit around complaining that no women ever want to hit them up. "Is this app transphobic or sumthin?" Yes, boys, your transaturated "lesbian" app is transphobic (just like reality). Shouldn't be a problem for you to date each other though, right? 🤣

( Sheva )
HER. Otherwise known as HIM

I used to have an account on HER. I had one question and answer listed and it was “what is the biggest attractor for you?” And my answer was “Two X Chromosomes”

I had in my bio “2X only” and “no dudes under any circumstances, in any way shape or form!”

And I STILL got TIMs trying to connect with me. I get offended. Like, that fucking MALE audacity to think I, a Lesbian, would want you, a greasy, hairy man, grotesque man in a dress and a wig that doesn’t quite sit right on your half balding head

[…]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Why do so many men defend gender ideology?

( BigBoats )
Unfortuntely, most of the people who push pro-TIM propaganda ARE women though (and TIMs of course). Just look at images of pro-trans demonstrations and you'll see most of them are women. It's the result of extreme female socialization, a desire to receive validation by being self-sacrificing to the extreme because it's been drilled into them that women are only valuable if they don't stand up for themselves.

I rarely see men defend pro-TIM nonsense. Most men don't even care because it doesnt affect them. And the few men who do defend it do so because it makes them look good and they have nothing to lose by defending it, probably.

( bluetinfoilhat )
I find most heterosexual men don't. Those that do generally haven't thought it out much or think it is linked to homophobia and they just knee jerkily want to see pro-gay. Unfortunately, a lot of gay men seem to support it or seem agitated when women talk about how it is negatively affecting women. Even though the trans movement is homophobic. No offense I think it is because many gay men don't value more feminine gay men, so they just don't care.

For the few heterosexual men who seem to support it a lot, I think they get off on trans women intimidating women, forcing themselves on lesbians, and taking away opportunities from women. They are personally not bold enough to go into the women's locker room, but they get off on that some men can get away with it.

( mathlover )
Because gender ideology is part of the foundation of the patriarchy maintaining male oppression of women. Men get what they want from gender ideology; they have no reason to ever object to it.

( Dogmother )
There once was a thread about TIMs and men on Reddit, and the top comment, I kid you not, was a guy saying "Straight men aren't attracted to women, they're attracted to femininity." A hundred replies or so, all defending this guy, it was insane. So pf course men are going to defend TIMs, as long as they make their dicks hard.

( drdeeisback )
Men will always support and defend other men. (Which is how you can be 100% sure they are well aware TIMs are men.)

( shewolfoffrance )
100%. You never see men lecturing other men on the need to be welcoming and inclusive towards TiFs. They're only interested in making sure that women continue to behave like service animals.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( TisTheSeason )
People have become dumber, but that's also the fault of government and scientific institutions. When they lie about obvious shit, people believe anything. Also there is no more trust in them.

( TheWombstress )
Yeah like the uterus transplants😭 TIMs believe it will happen in 10-20 years even though doctors can’t cure female reproductive illnesses (endometriosis, PCOS, ect) or female cancers.

( SapphoFinn )
To be fair, if it's going to benefit a man, then TIMs might be right and they will probably get the transplants a lot sooner than women will ever get any beneficial research to endometriosis/PCOS etc lol.

( FemmeEtal )
Trust and believe, if the trans billionaire lobby keeps going this way at all, they’ll try to make it happen. How long have breast implants been around and yet we have no cure for breast cancer. Body modification has clearly gotten out of control and isn’t about what’s healthy or realistic.

( VestalVirgin )
I am not sure if all men really would like if that happened.

Cause if it were possible to turn men into fertile women, the logical conclusion is that all the rich and powerful men would turn all the other men into women.

(Putin needs more babies to replace his killed soldiers? Why not turn all those men who have bad knees or whatnot and can therefore not be used as soldiers into women?)

Really, it would be fascinating to create a video game where you rule a country and can turn men into women and vice versa, and watch what players do with it.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Abigail Thorn/Philosophy Tube: "let's make transphobia a career-ending move."
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( Spencer_Shayy )
It IS already a career-ending move. So many women (and even some men) have been torn to shreds on social media, lost their jobs, threatened, blacklisted, stalked, and even assaulted for not kowtowing to these ugly incels. Declaring yourself "transgender" should be the career-ending move. I'm beyond sick of living under "trans" people's tyranny.

( Exempli_Gratia )
LOL. Bring it on, man. There is nothing you can do to make me bend the knee to you. Nothing you can say that will make me play pretend. No amount of lies, pressure, cancellation or threats will make me submit to you. I dare you to fucking try.

( Sheva )
You minding your own business. Approached from behind by someone with a clearly male voice. “Sorry sir what did you want?” Only to turn around and see a fully grown man in a wig and dress starting tear up. Suddenly you’ve lost your only source of income, unable to provide for your family because this MAN cried “transphobia”.

My point is. 99% of what TIMs and their TRA army call transphobia is made up in their own heads. People should NEVER be punished for the weird shit going on in other peoples heads.

Sure you may get a small handful of people who actually meant to hurt someone, but 99% of the people this clips will be innocent people.

But hey, the more dystopian bullshit they push the more women (and men) peak.

( Agrona )
Why not make men being in women’s spaces a punishable offence? Misogyny? Skinwalking?

( RusticTroglodyte )
It would be much easier to just make being a man a punishable offense, an idea I wholeheartedly support

( Tq231442 )
"Men should start off in jail and prove their way out" 😂😂😂

( BiblikliAkyeretTerf7 )
Uhh... it hasn't already been that?? Women have already lost their jobs for perceived "transphobia". What the hell more does he want?

Anyway, I think these people are dreaming if they don't see the writing on the wall that was 2023. 2024 will be, if anything, a year where transgenderism in particular and wokeness in general (and cancel culture) just becomes even more unpopular that it already has been. This will only increase in the coming years, don't they know that? They are destined to lose.

Carrots90 , asmahan & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia #wingnut ovarit.com

Skinwalker Tony's U.S. Genocide Coloring Page (a/k/a "Erin's 2024 Anti-Trans Legislative Risk Map")

( Carrots90 )
I am disappointed and angry that my state looks welcoming

We do not want to encourage this

My hate should be enough to turn it Florida Black

( asmahan )
With the "do not travel" and such I think he's channeling the green book and probably compiling the map gave him the euphoria boner he always wanted from being oppressed, by appropriating the trappings of the American black experience.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Feeling so blessed that my state is not a safe place for these perverts.

"Every day, I’ve gotten messages from worried people wondering how they are supposed to assess their risk of staying in their home state."

White and straight people, rejoice! You, too, can now get on the oppression bandwagon and pretend that the public not validating the gender you picked from someone's Tumblr blog puts you on the same level as an actual oppressed person!

"The messages range from parents of trans youth wondering if their children will be taken from them"

Oh, they should. If you "trans" your child, you are abusive, dangerous, and that child should be given to a family who will accept them for who they are.

"trans teachers wondering if their jobs will be safe in coming years."

God, I hope not. Even if the "trans" teachers aren't perverts or deranged activists, do we really want someone who believes children can be born in the wrong body, and require unethical medical interventions to "fix" them, around kids?

"Sometimes people just want to know if there is a safer state they can move to nearby."

Keep in mind, these people aren't in any actual danger. They want to know which states uphold their ideology. That's it.

"Now more than ever, it is a question that needs answering for so many transgender people facing forced medical detransition,"

OK, that is not happening. At all. Detrainsitioners are choosing to do so because they've wised up and realized this "transgender" bullshit is just that - bullshit. No doctor is forcing someone to detransition. But hey, whatever gets you hard, Tony.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

>Ask for the literal impossible >Whine on Reddit about how impossible things are impossible. ⚠️KEEP HIM AWAY FROM CHILDREN⚠️
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( Re-enacterf )
I have no sympathy for a male who destroys his strength, health, and fertility for a fetish. None. Suck it up there bud

And yeah, he's probably a pedophile, who just wants an excuse to be around children.

( Lipsy )
Maybe someday this dude will identify as a mermaid and will become SUPER dysphoric about not being able to breathe oxygenated water through gills. "Well, I COULD keep breathing through my lungs landgills, but wink wink, we all know why I'd be doing that." And that'd be all he wrote 🧜🏿.

( legopants )
If this was an actual woman who genuinely wanted to be a mother, like the child was the actual focused, fostering or adopting would be fine.

Instead, it's a man who fetishizes something he'll never be able to do and likely gets off when he imagined it breastfeeding

( SamanthaK )
This is how kids go missing and then end up dead.

( Carrots90 )
Dude. Definitely don’t have kids

He doesn’t want kids, which is fine,

he just wants to be pregnant….which is creepy

Carrots90 , RighteousIndignation & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

( Carrots90 )
New words for the GC dictionary, feel free to add

deGENDERate ‘non-binary’ males who feel entitled to use women’s spaces but don’t even pretend to think they are themselves women

duTIFul when TIFs cape for TIMs because TIFs have ‘male privilege’ and don’t suffer ‘transmisogyny’

feMENism libfemmery. Women centering men in their activism and labors

foresPEAK when someone is on the path to seeing how insane trans ideology is, but they are trying very hard not to see it

inFETISHtation the condition of being overrun with any type of perverted pestilence. eg “Reddit is now infetished with TIMs on all sites”

inTERFace the device or system everyone has to utilize when working with mentally stunted wokesters to prevent meltdowns, drama, and work stoppages

inTRANSigence the ability to steadfastly defend trans ideology despite facts, history, reason, common sense, etc

les-bane anyone who is a bane to lesbians. Any person who is not a woman exclusively attracted to women but claims the name, spaces, compliance, etc of lesbians

male-icious how uniquely horrible TransWomen treat women, friend or foe

masTERFul JKR dealing with TRA crybabies

overesTIMate how TIMs rate their passability/looks/personality

queersling from quisling. actual gay people who sell out the LGB for the TQIAA+++ headpats

subTERFuge undercover GC work. I’m convinced at least some of the ‘handmaidens’ are double agents. Pretending to be selling out the sistershood but doing the goddesses work. “You should definitely say that/wear that/post that” etc

suPERVise when TIMS invade lesbian spaces to look for wrongthink, and to perv

( RighteousIndignation )
Spatch-cocked when a man gets his penis turned inside out and shoved into a hole drilled thru his pelvis.

(courtesy of another ovarit user who's name I don't know).

( Spencer_Shayy )
These are hilarious! I think "les-bane" is my favorite. "Queersling" is good, too, but I prefer "Vichy Gay/Lesbian".

( Carrots90 )
I love Vichy Gay/Lesbian too!!

Someone dared to call Mr Menno that When he opposed trans lunacy. Which is rich, considering that the TQ is imho, the worst thing to happen to the LGB community in the West since HIV crisis

BlackCirce & TheKnitta #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Gender Ideology, Queer Theory, and Identity Politics are based on Post-Modernism not Liberalism

( BlackCirce )
Yeah I kinda bristle at the usage of liberal feminist to mean transfeminists or “intersectional” feminists or postmodern feminists. I’m not really sure what they should be called but they are definitely not liberal and the ones I know personally openly despise liberals. I usually say social justice (sj) feminists. It’s hard to even call them feminists because their stated goal is making everyone equal / liberated which doesn’t have anything to do specifically with women. I’ve also toyed with the idea of calling it post-feminism since if women don’t really exist, feminism is not necessary.

( TheKnitta )
That’s a good point. I’m quick to yell when people blame genderwoo on ‘the left’ that it’s not the real left, but I’m very guilty of using ‘liberal feminism’. The very term ‘liberal’ has been as mangled and perverted as the term ‘feminism’ in the current world we inhabit, and neither mean what the dictionary says.

‘Faux-feminists’ works well enough, although it’s very negative.

Sheva, legopants & dasehe #transphobia #psycho ovarit.com

Man charged with killing transgender woman following argument in Harford County

( Sheva )
And no women were harmed. That sits just fine with me.

( legopants )
Just wait till this is posted by even one tra on Twitter. Women will be blamed immediately

( Sheva )
Women will be blamed regardless of the situation or the outcome. That’s what men do, especially TiMs

( dasehe )
I've hit the point I can't be arsed about what Twitter TRAs are going to do. TIMs are just gonna TIM. I only care that it isn't weaponised in legislation against women. I'm not an optimist about that point, but that's still a fight that has to be taken on.

Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

"Gender affirming care" = going along with a child who pretends to be the opposite sex, forcing everyone in that child's life to pretend they are the opposite sex, and giving the child drugs that disrupt their healthy development so that they can better deceive others into thinking they are the opposite sex later in life so that men can violate women's boundaries (and men's sexual boundaries) without question.

How is it possible for the "science" to support this? What benefit do these kids get from this that can offset the violation of human rights they are commiting against others and the damage they are inducing in their own bodies?

How can slightly "improving" the self-esteem of one individual justify bodily harm, deception, and destruction of women's rights? Especially when that individual is a child who is still growing and maturing has other mental health issues they need to take care of, or hasn't yet gotten a grasp of their sexuality and might just be struggling with that?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

"misgendering is the exact same as being called the n-word"
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( DietCokeAddict )
Lol I’m not deciding it doesn’t offend them, I just don’t care if it does. If they’re offended by correct pronouns that’s not my problem.

( RusticTroglodyte )
Great point. When ppl are offended by literal reality, who gives a shit about sparing their feelings?

( Spencer_Shayy )
See, that's the thing. When bigotry becomes subjective, it means nothing. That's why this creepy perverted man has the confidence to say that calling him by his birth name is akin to a racial slur.

( TheKnitta )
Get Mr I’m The Biggest Victim over here. Racism, apartheid? Nothing compared to what he’s been through trying to get people not to laugh at him for wearing frilly knickers.

Truly stunning and brave (and absolutely tone deaf).

( pennygadget )
"Martin Luther King Jr thought he had it rough! But MY oppression is even worse! My grandmother still calls me 'Steven' and Twitter trolls call me 'dude' every day!! Its worse than a thousand Holocausts!!!" 😭

( pennygadget )
Once again, these scrotes appropriate the struggles of people who are ACTUALLY oppressed in order to prop up their bullshit fantasy life.

Black Civil Rights leaders never asked the rest of us to swallow lies. Calling a man "Steve" instead of his chosen name of "Violet VonGlittercunt" is not the same as calling a Black person the n-word. These men are so entitled because current leftist spaces coddle this nonsense

songoftheworms & Ava #transphobia ovarit.com

Yeah, and no need to define “liberty” either. Liberty can include shackles, what even are words, now shut up
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( songoftheworms )
[...]

More like, we're passionately telling you that in order for "women" to have liberation, "women" needs to first be defined. And defining women in terms of a discrete biological group is not only more accurate in terms of observable reality and the almighty lived experience, but also in pinpointing the axis by which our subjugation is enacted: Sex is why; gender is how. Who benefits by denying sex and embracing gender? Not women.

How often do you hear a newly minted "trans woman" talking about how he's 100% totally a woman in every way [mumble] except for, like, having been sexualised basically from birth, experiencing female puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, sex-based violence, lower lifetime wages... you know, all the insignificant shit that's naturally dwarfed by the fact that he really likes the colour pink? Who benefits from the view of "women" as artifice, frivolity and aesthetic, rather than the female mammals we very simply are? Not women.

Better to acknowledge the primacy of our biology than our embrace or rejection of odious misogynist stereotypes, I think, given that we aren't oppressed for being innately or irrepressibly "feminine," but for being quite inescapably (yes, even if we cut off our tits and root out our reproductive organs and change our name to Chad - especially then) female. Or is MacKinnon suggesting that identifying out of being oppressed is women's best hope for "producing liberation"?

( Ava )
She's literally acknowledging that the oppressors define women as a discrete biological group. Doesn't she think it's important to have a word for the group that's being oppressed? 🤨

And then her completely misrepresenting that Simone de Beauvoir quote is the cherry on top. Simone de Beauvoir was describing female socialization, which only happens...to females.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( keylime )
Sorry not sorry at all, but this is exactly why I refuse to befriend trans or anyone who is close with TiMs/TiFs. I would rather be completely isolated and friendless than have trans or handmaiden friends. They are too mentally ill, unstable, and untrustworthy. For such a small percentage of the general population, a huge percentage within their own have shown themselves to be violent, sadistic, psychopathic killers. This mentally ill demon of a woman did not just kill Nandhini, but deliberately planned to torture her and took pleasure in viewing her suffering. She should be condemned to a lake of fire.

However, I do not blame Nandhini (may her beautiful soul rest in peace) one bit for this tragic outcome. She is a victim of the brainwashing that so many women undergo. "Be nice to trans people! They are harmless and just want to live their authentic selves in peace!" NO. I will advocate for women to NOT be nice to these deranged people. Women are so often taught to ignore their gut instinct in favor of being nice and not hurting people's feelings. We must grey rock, isolate these people, and refuse to be nice and friendly with them, lest more women suffer the same fate.

( GreenBottle )
Congrats TIF, you did the most male thing imaginable, murdered and tortured a woman for saying no. Makes me wonder if she's on testosterone.

( Mignonette )
My thoughts exactly. She'll never be a man but unfortunately succeeded at acting like one when she refused to take no for an answer. I hope she's dealt with accordingly. Her poor victim must have suffered horrifically.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Why do TIFs always mimic the worst traits of men and never ones that are better to "pass"?

Men suck, yes, but they also have a history of encouraging things like chivalry, honor, intellectualism, etc. in each other. Where are the TIFs like that? Why are they always incredibly misogynistic and violent?

( momofreyrella )
Oh definitely

( GreenBottle )
Oh I know she is. Just wanted to point it out. I know technically these TIFs are women and "belong" in female sexed spaces but tbh I don't want them either if testosterone makes them as depraved and degenerate as the average scrote. The moment they take testosterone they should be banned from female sports obviously because that's doping, but idk if they belong in my locker room either.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: what's more important trans issues or abortion?

( Thelnebriati )
The trans issue is more important to women's rights. Laws depend on accurate definitions.

Being able to define ourselves as members of a recognised class is fundamental to all of our other legal rights.

( pennygadget )
Agreed. What's the point of keeping abortion legal if we lose every other sex based right? The current progressive/democrat platform seems to be: "We might be setting women and girls up to be raped in bathrooms, homeless shelters, prison cells, etc. But at least we'll graciously allow them to get abortions when those rapes get them pregnant! We're feminists!!"

Also, if the democrats remain slaves to gender ideology, I don't trust them not to outlaw abortion one day simply because Dylan Mulvaney marched into the White House and screeched, "ABORTION IS TRANSPHOBIC BECAUSE I CAN'T HAVE ONE!! MAKE IT GO AWAY, JOE BIDEN!!!"

( MiMi2013 )
Trans issues make women "non people" ; abortion, while important, is not as vital. How many times a day does a woman need to shit or piss or adjust her clothing-? How many times a day does she need to get an abortion-? I fear trans beliefs even more than anti choice shibboleths.

( Persimmon64 )
Trans ideology is a bigger priority for me. With abortion, only women and girls who are fertile and of childbearing age who do not want children and would choose to have an abortion are affected. There are other options such as adoption, and most states make concessions for abortions due to health complications. Unless I'm raped, I at least have control of the situation in whether I choose to use birth control or not or choose to have sex or not, knowing it could result in a pregnancy.

"Trans ideology" affects every single woman and girl on the planet, from the age of 1 to 90. It affects gay and autistic children, boys and girls, who are being medically abused. It affects families that are being torn apart. Women no longer have any protection in the law. Under trans ideology, women lose the ability to even recognize themselves apart from men. How can we fight for any women's issues, including abortion, when we can't even recognize who women are?

various commenters #transphobia twitter.com

( @doughnutnaps )
What the fuck is this @Target ?!?!
#TransWomenAreConMen #NoSuchThingAsTrans
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( @doughnutnaps )
He’s everywhere! What the fuck @Target ?!
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( @doughnutnaps )
Another one…and you can tell they edited the pic so his shoulders aren’t so pronounced or his collarbone. And the one where you can see his hands you can tell they did A LOT to make them “dainty” looking. But they can’t do a thing with that handsome squidward jaw.
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( @Pterfodact86502 )
Who in the marketing department thinks women will run out and buy that lingerie modeled by a man? Really? This is regressive, not progressive.

#GoWokeGoBroke #Target

( @NoGenderBenderz )
Pls someone draw a penis

( @justsadie91 )
I saw this in my target and it pissed me off.

( @chuntasull )
I know, it's disgusting. Shame on anyone near a Target.

( @Festivalkyrie )
I didn't know that Michelle Obama had a younger brother. 😆

( @rabbitcover )
Trans propaganda is so effing creepy! I do not want to see this at Target.

( @mandurahmum )
Please don't tell me they allow men to try on women's panties or swimsuits. Just yuck

( @onedaymode )
Stopped going to Target a couple years ago when their sick practices were exposed. That company should be held legally liable for every woman assaulted by a man in a dress.

( @tailrotor )
The thing is...why are the advertisers not honest. The male model is posing bent forward so his penis doesn't bulge through the dress material. Let it, then the public can see EXACTLY what the advert is saying! And they won't like it!

( @Elizabe20613711 )
I saw this as well about a month ago. I find this offensive. Women have fought so hard in this country to exist. Men have no place taking a woman’s space. This is clearly just a man in a dress. I knew women, my great grandmothers who in their life time were not allowed to vote but eventually fought for and won their right to vote. It’s those women who are turning in their graves as male supremacy is making a comeback uglier than ever.

( @avril_britten )
just because
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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Dylan Mulvaney gets his passport marked as 'female'. Takes to social media to smugly gloat

( Spencer_Shayy )
It's amazing how "trans" people can break the law and not suffer consequences for it.

Falsify federal documents? $5,000 fine or jailed for 5 years.

Dope up on drugs while playing sports? Suspension for two years.

Do any of that when you say you're "trans"? Not only are you allowed to get away with it, you're applauded for it.

What's the word for being able to get away with things others can't? Starts with a p...

( Carrots90 )
Very good point

Add voyeurism and exhibitionism to that list

( IrissaIridium )
That video. 🤣 Dylan believes that words are magical and can transmute his body's small gamete- producing reproductive pathway and all the primary and secondary sex characteristics that come along with that. 😂 In fact, he's so confident that the magical letter in his passport has made him a woman that he doesn't even worry about showing up on cam with full five o'clock shadow anymore.

Here are some more "magical" words for you, Dylan:

🎶🪄 Salaca doo 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 La menthicka boo 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 La bibbidi-bobbidi-boo 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 Put 'em together 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 And what have you got? 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 Still a bibbidi-bobbidi-tool. 🍆😂

( Women1st )
I’m surprised he didn’t throw a bit and demand it say “girl.” I saw the Eloise skit he did. WTF? He acts like a pedo.

( DaddysLittlePickMe )
Spicy take time: I legit do not trust homosexual males, even the ones who aren't TiMs who call themselves 'girls'. Even if they're doing so uNiRoNiCaLlY. Bonus points if they're obsessed with girlish crap like care bears and male popstars obviously targeted towards tweens. It's giving autopedophilia. I have NEVER seen a lesbian woman who calls herself a boy and is obsessed with pokemon and roblox

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender Debate: Phi Mu Sorority Punishing Alumni Who Believe Women Are Women

( Women1st )
Welcome to the new arm of the TRAs seeking to silence women, sororities. This is nuts, no pun intended. Why do we have sororities and a Supreme Court judge, and female politicians all claiming being a woman is an identity??? Wtf?

( MiMi2013 )
Because they're evil. PERIOD. Men and women who identify with men are weaponizing trans-shit against the 99% , to let the MEN of the 99% know they're too weak, too powerless, to protect their wives and daughters (the women who are actually being assaulted by these monsters are an afterthought). This is strictly political, and it's a group of people who think they're elite enjoying grinding the faces of everyone else into the dirt, for some ultimate motive of which we can only guess at this point.

( Iggyana )

That night, five Phi Mus were dismissed from membership. Another was put on probation and required to attend diversity, equity, and inclusion training; take the Harvard Implicit Bias Test; listen to certain podcast episodes for “reeducation,” and then write a reflection paper. After completing these tasks, the woman is still at risk of having her membership taken away.

I hope the 6th woman tells them to shower their membership up their arses. They're trying to humiliate her.

( SpicyPumpkin )
The word "reeducation" leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I can't see it meaning anything other than brainwashing.

( Vasilisa )
Chairman Mao for the win 😬

( Novemberinthechair )
Yep. Maoist Communist China....Red Guard stuff.