@Taln_Reich

MaryDyer & PrincessCharming1983 #transphobia ovarit.com

( MaryDyer )
I’d sooner have my baby breastfeed from a nursing dog than a TIM
Like if I was in some crazy, life or death scenario where the only options for my baby to eat were a moobfeeding man or a mother dog with pups, I’d choose the dog.

For several reasons:

1. The baby would be receiving actual milk, not moob juice
2. Mother dogs aren’t goddamned perverts who get off on nursing
3. A mother dog is a FEMALE
Who agrees?

( PrincessCharming1983 )
Funny how it's called breastfeeding when a TIM wants to do it. But the rest of us get shoehorned into calling it chestfeeding because some women don't think they're women.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: TRA politicians slamming people "hateful" for questioning whether WI shooter is trans are being completely dishonest

( real_feminist )
Yup. They normalized the press lying about people's sex and now they're mad that people don't believe what the press says about someone's sex. This was very foreseeable.

( Iota_Aurigae )
TRAs and MRAs (same difference, really) are using the opportunity to spread around a fake manifesto claiming that the shooter was a radfem. This piece of disinformation seems to have originated from a neo-Nazi account who is specifically anti-feminist. Shocker.

( DorothySayers )
the shooter’s deviant art profile indicated pronouns they/them. but it seems that offline rupnow went by female pronouns. her appearance and demeanor is somewhat androgynous which is why i think people also questioned whether she was trans or on T. We don’t really know at this point.

I’m friends with people whose kids went to the school and found out about the shooting via text before it made the news. It feels personal so it’s really weird that it’s already getting so political and being used as political talking points for gun control, trans, or whatever else.

( OnlyHuman )

the shooter’s deviant art profile indicated pronouns they/them

Probably worth noting that DeviantArt requires pronounage and they/them + showing might be the default. That profile is barebones as fuck, no about, no pfp, no comments, no gallery and the only favorite is adolf hitler v3 (lol)

...so yeah. Probably not a TIF at any point of time

( Lillith )
Is it bad that I am thrilled that a man is finally inconvenienced by this nonsense?

Also how can he say that the gender identity does not matter when he probably thinks that pronouns are literal violence too?

The chickens are coming home to roost.

NO, sylviasmushrooms & jvsmine #transphobia ovarit.com

Portland bartender who shoved transgender woman in bathroom dispute guilty of hate crime, jury rules - oregonlive.com

( NO )
Wow... I actually hate them.

They're the kind of evil that sits behind a mask pretending to be good and kind.. but they're just bad people.

( sylviasmushrooms )
This goes for the handmaidens and flying monkeys, too. The worst part of this timeline is realizing how many people either have no principles at all, or are willing to hitch that wagon to any wild, bucking beast just because someone powerful or popular said “right side of history.”

( jvsmine )
just start asking the handmaidens and wokebros what they think they're fighting for - have them explain in detail what they think is going on, why they think it, and what should be done.

more often than not, they say "because! why does it matter to you how someone identifies!!!!" they have no argument. they just support the popular liberal "new gay rights" thing. they're idiots and they embarrass themselves when I start sending article after article like THIS pictures of mutilated children, of the porn in their schools, women getting raped in prison and thrown in solitary for misgendering and they have some shit from fuckin PenisNews.

they embarrass themselves when they insist "well predatory men will always rape you whether you like it or not so shut up and let any male who says he's a woman into your sports, safe spaces, opportunities, prisons, and hospital wards. let a male nurse who says he's a woman care for a female AGAINST HER WISHES, because otherwise, if she isn't comfortable, it's transphobia. females should not have their own spaces for any reason bc transwomen are women like them." make them SAY THAT SHIT. bc that's what they're supporting.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Acting all shocked that the country that beheads women for adultery has backwards laws
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( PresumedWoman )
They need to talk about twans wimmon who live in misogynistic hell scapes as often as possible because they think it backs up the "I have a woman soul this isn't a choice" when it only proves that AGP exists everywhere

( Carrots90 )

They also beat two Pakastani trans women for attending the Hajj several years back

Or maybe it was because it was pervy men trying to perv on women??

( MaryDyer )

Or maybe it was because it was pervy men trying to perv on women??

This. Males and females are segregated from one another in mosques; they even have separate entrances. The one for women is called the Sisters’ Entrance (at least that’s what it’s called in the mosque down the street from me). I’ve always been curious as to what will happen when some TIM demands access to the women’s side of a mosque.

( crodish )

forcibly detransitioning

Excuse me while I roll my eyes so hard that they fall into the back of my throat

How fucked is it that even in a place that literally kills women for being women that men STILL want to larp as them for a fetish?

Either that or it was a closeted gay man who thought the only way to live as a homosexual there was by "becoming a woman", in which case, maybe slightly more sympathy on my end is afforded at how the LGBTQ dogma fucks up actual arguments for gay rights.

==

edit: apparently the case was famous enough to have a wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Eden_Knight

and no. not gay. just a dude who was born in saudi arabia, relocated to the west for education, inevitably got sucked into gender ideology there, and when real life knocked on the door just refused to return to reality. They didn't fucking torture him, they threw away his HRT and said he was a man. and death before detransition made him 41%.

Fucking hell. He didn't face any actual oppression.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: When treating transgender youth, how informed is informed consent?

( Eava )
This drives me nuts: "People who support the currently dominant gender-affirming model of care for children see kind practitioners trying to do their best for vulnerable patients who often have severe mental health issues due to living in a transphobic society."

No one ever considers that these mental health problems are the result of living in a misogynistic and homophobic society, not a transphobic society. People want to think misogyny and homophobia, like racism, have been solved. From women not wanting to be women or can't accept being lesbians, to gay boys being transitioned by homophobic parents, to heterosexual men getting warped by porn. Transphobia isn't the driving cause, it is misogyny.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
There’s no such thing as “transphobia”.

Women are generally afraid of TIMs because they’re MALE.

Men aren’t afraid of TIMs. It’s either that they get rabidly angry if the “woman” they hooked up with is actually a man. OR they see a TIM and hate him bc they think he’s a gay man (homophobia).

( Persimmon64 )
Exactly! Nobody is transphobic because there is no such thing as a trans person. It's so, so ridiculous.

It would be like saying someone hates people who are mixed species because they refuse to say the "lizard man" (who had surgery to make himself look reptilian) is part lizard or because people make fun of him. No, they're not making fun of him because he's "trans-species. They're making fun of him because he's weird.

( Riothamusscrote )
I believe TIMs are universally despised because they're the absolute worst men in society. They're perverts who get off on violating others' boundaries.

( BondiBlue )
Nobody can rationally consent to this, because trans on its face is a lie. A destructive (and very profitable) mindfuck of a lie. Humans cannot change sex; to “affirm” one’s belief in being something one is not and can never be, is feeding the delusion. As for NB bullshit, it’s even dumber because no one person is “they.” We do not contain multitudes and anyone who believes he or she is a plural identity is suffering under mental illness. The notion of “informed consent” for trans-anything is a fallacy in and of itself.

pennygadget, BellaBlue & capributterfly #transphobia ovarit.com

NYT/Siena poll: Biden has lost female support

( pennygadget )
[...]

Also (and I know many here will disagree with me on this), abortion has less of an impact on women's daily lives than all the other issues democrats are dropping the ball on. American women aren't getting abortions every week. But crime, the immigration clusterfuck, the loss of female language, the homeless issue, cost of living, being denied female-only spaces, being compelled to call AGPs "she", the public schools being shit, the death of Title IX, etc impact us in direct ways every day.

And even if someone is a One Issue Voter regarding abortion, we all know that Biden would federally outlaw abortion tomorrow if some TIM came to him and cried, "Abortion is transphobic because i can't have one!!!". So electing him isn't even a guarantee that abortion will remain legal in at least half the country

( BellaBlue )
Why wouldn't women support

-losing Title IX privileges such as female bathrooms, changing rooms, and sports in public schools

-losing spaces women fought to have, such as schools, bathrooms, prisons, nursing stations, locker rooms, etc.

-unrestricted mass immigration of undocumented men from cultures that tell them women are lesser beings and free for sexual harrassment

( capributterfly )
Imo Trump will be president again and it’s going to be partly on the Democrats. Their lax attitude on crime and homelessness, the border/illegal immigration, and obsession with eroding women’s rights for the benefit of trans people (mostly TIMs) may not end well for them.

Many Dem citizens were cool with these things too until it reached the point where it all started to affect them. Once nice areas of cities are becoming overrun with homeless mentally ill addicts, crime on public transit is (or seems to be at least) increasing, and the issue of TIMs in sports is becoming more common. All these issues seem to be coming to a point where even self-identified Democrats or left leaning people are waking up.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

(submitters note: regarding this tweet https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1765822003246768198 by J.K.Rowling)

( FluffyFuzz )
You're right in the sense that it doesn't mean that the average "transphobe" is afraid of them, but I am absolutely afraid of them in women's safe spaces. I feel terrified for the kids, too. I don't want a big burly man with crude lipstick whipping his dick out in the bathrooms.

( Committing_Tervery )
A phobia is an irrational fear. Women’s fear of men is perfectly rational.

( SatanicPanic )
Correct. It's normal to fear that which is proven to hurt and kill you.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
That’s still not “transphobia”. That’s a rightful fear of men preying on women.

( DurableBook )
Same way radical feminism isn't trans exclusionary, it's male exclusionary.

Nobody is afraid of "trans people." Many people correctly recognize that male people pose the same risk no matter what gender-feels they have in their heads, and the material impact of a male person's presence is the same whether he's got on trousers or a skirt.

Trans activists are the only ones arguing that trans people should be treated differently. The rest of us are out here arguing that someone's trans identity should not have any impact whatsoever on their rights, responsibilities, and protections under the law.

( Persimmon64 )
Their invention of the imaginary "trans" concept really does try to obfuscate the issue doesn't it?

"You're excluding 'trans' people from sport!" No, we're excluding men.

"You think 'trans' people are perverts!" No, we think grown men who fetishize "girlhood" are perverts.

"You don't like 'trans' people!" No, I don't like men who degrade and demean women and treat us like costumes.

"You think trans people are dangerous!" No, I know men pose a threat to women.

( NewbieGuest93 )
She articulated it way better than I could, i completely feel the same way as she does.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
I’m done being ok with “dress how you want”. No. Men abuse this by being perverts in public.

( proudcatlady )
Seriously. This is, like most things, allowance women are absolutely entitled to and men cannot be trusted with even a little bit.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Something that really unsettles me with TIFs

( NewbieGuest93 )
What's unsettling about this phenomenon, what you just described, is that they seem to not be accepting of themselves and their bodies, and feel the need to alter themselves. That kind of mentality is just so foreign to how I am, I'm naturally a very masculine woman and i don't feel the need to perform femininity, so why can't these woman just accept themselves and their bodies how it naturally is. I don't want to sound judgemental or narrow minded, I just find this phenomenon of packing or taping down ones breasts by these TIFs to be difficult to understand and comprehend.

( moody_ape )
i think it comes down to a very deeply rooted internalized misogyny. most women hate our bodies, so """"becoming a man"""" is the ultimate destruction of their femaleness. also, trans identified individuals are completely obsessed with passing and being validated by everyone. so they'll do whatever they can to achieve that (at least in the case of TIFs). i find it really contradictory how they want to pass so desperately in order to be "invisible" (because no one notices they're trans) but at the same time they won't shut up about it [...]

( Sadeyedlady )
In the comments there are a bunch of tifs talking about going through airport security with their fake dicks and in many cases getting flagged as having a suspicious object and getting patted down or an X-ray. wtf??? Purposely inconveniencing themselves and others at an airport just for “euphoria.”

( syntaxerror )
Honestly, you could totally use this cultural climate against people to smuggle stuff through TSA. Just screech transphobia. And also the model that the OP has basically suction cups to your crotch, so I pity the airport employee that day who has to peel it off and inspect it for balloons or deadly weapons 🤦‍♀️

( RuneOwl )
And here I thought packers were primarily for an individual TIF’s peace of mind, to ease their dysphoria and possibly help men’s undergarments fit better. I imagine the scenarios where they would be visible to other people are limited, maybe in wet swim trunks? It shouldn’t be obvious underneath normal everyday clothing.

It really does come off as overcompensating for something. Ironically, being obnoxious over dick insecurity is about as close to a genuinely male experience as she’ll ever get.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: A love letter to gender-critical feminists

( kittyfinesse )
Fantastic piece! This was my favorite quote:

"There is one thing worse than absorbing the hatred of the worst men, and that’s submitting to their will. People only despise what they can’t control. Trans extremists despise you because you’re free."

I'm so proud of women like you and everyone here for standing up to this ideology. I also find it so funny when people try to smear GC feminists as "not real feminists" because we've been the most consistent in advocating for women and their interests the whole time. Our views have never changed. Any person who includes TIMs in his or her definition of feminism has changed its aim to prioritize the feelings of men over the safety of women.

( Alceriniel )
Whenever I am worried about getting blowback regarding being anti-gender-theory, I just ask myself: "How will you face your daughter one day and say with a straight face that you did nothing to protect her?"

Had this happen not too long ago when out shopping with my daughter. She called a TIM "Mr." and he tried to correct her. I smiled politely and happily stated to the TIM at Target: "No. She is right. You *are *a man, and I am not teaching her to lie for your benefit."

And then we walked away.

( MardyMcMare )
Thanks! I like the idea that in the future people will “wish they’d been part of it”, although as Brexit proved, it is easier to con someone than for them to admit they’ve been conned.

( AsterRising )
Agreed! I think it will take a long time for people to admit how they got it wrong with trans ideology, but I do have faith history will vindicate us

( MardyMcMare )
Yes, that may be true of ordinary people, but as Helen Joyce says, people like the parents and clinicians of these poor confused lied-to children will have to cleave to the ideology forever, rather than confront their own parts in destroying the health and fertility of the kids they were supposed to protect.

( dotconnectr )
I've always been an avoidant introvert so the isolation doesn't bother me too much, but I wish I had the physical courage to get out into the world more and talk to more people about this. The problem I have with the isolation is that by going out quietly "terfing" by putting up stickers, for example, I am taking on some level of risk of physical harm from TIMs who live in my community if I get spotted. [...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Why isn’t any mainstream media covering the WPATH files?

( Demeter )
I remember googling something about the he ACLU and there were literally 3 pages of ACLU.org links before I could find anything else, much less an opposing viewpoint. A decent subsection of TiMs are mega smart* and they cooperate. They are tech savvy and weaponize autism in ways our side could only dream of. We don't even have a sub for strategy on Ovarit** that's private for users, much less voice verified .. we're all in a fishbowl with handmaidens and TiPs at our backs taking notes.
*The top 8 richest men are predominantly on the spectrum, like a high percentage of TiMs.[...]

( Mizuna )
It's predictable. When confronted with a story that goes against The Narrative, the corporate media pattern is:

Ignore ___ until it can't be ignored any longer. [We are here].

__ is a far right conspiracy theory.

Okay, ___ is real, but it's not what you think.

Here's why ___ is a good thing.

( crodish )
This made me laugh because I just saw a video of a TRA male getting quizzed by Billboard Chris over "no one is giving gender medicine to kids". The TRA started out "it's not happening". Chris showed him a video with proof and backed up stats. TRA changed his position to "it's not that bad". One minute more of arguing later and it became "it's actually good that kids HAVE access to these surgeries" (paraphrasing).

Also JKR recently tweeted a gif of a goalpost moving on a soccer field in response to GCs talking about TRAs doing just that. 🤣

( Yarrowheart )
This is a truly terrifying trend. I know it has always been this way to a certain extent, but before you could at least find counterpoints to the narrative. Now, anything but The Narrative does not exist. If people don't hear about it in the media, and going online to find information only yields The Powers That Be's officially approved sources that bolster the narrative... Then it doesn't exist otherwise to people. This is an extremely dangerous path that society is on. It ultimately makes it low hanging fruit for atrocities to be committed in relative silence.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

So I cut this guy's dick off and now he's furious with me. How can we blacklist him so no one else has to deal with his bullshit?
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( shewolfoffrance )
This seems to be a common occurrence among vaginoplasty victims. The surgeon basically waits for the check to clear, and then cuts them off (unless they can get him to come in for revisions).

It doesn't make me sad that sexual deviants coom themselves into getting their dicks cut off, but I don't think psychopathic surgeons should be allowed to prey on the mentally ill.

( pennygadget )
I don't feel bad for adult AGPs who cut their dicks off (honestly, I think its a public service when men like Jonathan Yaniv get The Chop). But I do feel bad for the confused young men who are groomed into it because they're confused, gay, autistic, traumatized, etc and think that transition will magically fix all their problems.

( shewolfoffrance )
Yep. The only ones I feel bad for are the grooming and transhausen by proxy victims. Marci Bowers belongs in jail.

( [Deleted] )
Remember there's no "standard" penis inversion procedure. They're all using different methods because it's so traumatic and unnecessary it's really never "successful"

( Riothamus )
We need to outlaw this surgery for both children and adults. After all, any guy who thinks this isn't the worst idea ever is too mentally ill to meaningfully consent to it.

HERetic & Lipsy #transphobia ovarit.com

Centrist Democrats should stop blaming progressives for Harris’s loss

( HERetic )
I read the archived page but I'm curious if there are any good comments on the live page?

I did indeed withhold my vote for Kamala (wrote in JKR) because of the gender stuff. A lot of people are saying we did and this guys response is "nuh uh!"!?

I'm also not upset she lost, as he claims we are. I'm not particularly jazzed about a Trump presidency, but I think I'm less fearful of that prospect than a "progressive" regime. Look what our liberal justices are doing!

( Lipsy )
paywall-free: https://archive.ph/PneTW

​

But anws. Shit take of the season right here—although I suppose We shouldn't be surprised that these people are delusional about their collective delusions.

The reality goes in the opposite direction.
Because of ☭-esque measures ranging from blanket censorship of the administration's and TQ+'s worst injustices in the mainstream press, to siccing intelligence-agency spooks on parents who spoke out at school board meetings, to law enforcement standing aside while the TQ+ mob engaged in Maoist Red Guard-style domestic terrorism on the daily... the simple fact is, the American electorate went to the polls this time woefully UNDERinformed about the horrifying scope and excesses of the "progressive" left, which has become an illiberal, authoritarian, antisocial, anti-reality, pro-tyranny, band of cheaply bought foot soldiers for a bunch of scheming billionaires.

If people even knew the half of what was rlly going on under the aegis of the party that not-all-too-long-ago stood for basic civil liberties and First Amendment freedoms, this election result would have been MUCH more lopsided than it was.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

It's not just "normies" who oppose mutilating kids, hon
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( hellamomzilla )
There’s no such thing as transgender kids. That’s also the point.

This odd cult has spent all its time trying to make totally normal, understood things seem weird and sinister and then normalize their actually creepy as fuck perversions.

( Lemonade_Masquerade )
No, you have the same right to medical care as everyone else. ""Cis"" kids can't take hormones just because they want to either.

Anyway, what do hormones have to do with gender? If a dick can be female so can his testosterone 🤷🏻‍♀️

( pennygadget )
Who does he include in "we lost"?. Because women and children win when this shit isn't tolerated

( Edelgard )
I like to look at the bright side of things: at least there's finally a somewhat viral post that acknowledges that the vast majority of people, no matter their political leanings, don't suscribe to trans ideology. The narrative is getting closer to the truth.

( pennygadget )
Ugh. They aren't banning all "gender affirming care". They're banning medical transition for MINORS!!

Do they also believe its a civil rights violation to deny minors alcohol, cigarettes, and tattoos?

( LadybugStardust )
A child smoking three packs of cigarettes and drinking 5 bottles of whiskey a day would still do less far damage than irreversible "gender-affirming" medical mutilation would.

( pennygadget )
Show me the doctor who is giving "cis" kids hormones for entirely cosmetic, non-medical reasons

The only example that somewhat makes sense is a girl taking birth control to manage acne. But, IMO, severe acne is a medical issue

Mandy, jelliknight & FrankieDuck #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Chase Strangio Argues Her Case in the New York Times

( Mandy )
Cross sex hormones only "saved" her life because they were available for her to want.

In the days before cross sex hormones existed people "saved their lives" by cross-dressing and adopting a cross-sex persona. They didn't kill themselves because they couldn't grow breasts or beards. They might have wished they could, but knew they couldn't and just got on with it.

Sex hormones are thus unlike, say, chemotherapy or antibiotics, where people really did die for the lack of them in the days before these treatments were invented.

Chase Strangio saw something she wanted and wanted it so bad she was ready to kill herself if she didn't get it. That's mental illness.

( jelliknight )
This is exactly it. Before insulin, diabetics died. Insulin is lifesaving medicine. Before antibiotics, people died from infections. Before testosterone, women didnt die from not growing enough chest and facial hair.

They say they would kill themselves without it, but 1. Theres no evidence they do and 2. That would be a death from suicide, not lack of medical treatment.

[...]

( FrankieDuck )
One of the top comments:

Mutilating minors with opposite-sex hormones and surgeries is unethical and should be unlawful. I hope the ACLU loses this case, big time.

1. Sex is not "assigned" at birth. Sex is a biological fact that is observed and recorded.

2. There are no long-term safety studies of the impacts of powerful puberty-blocking or opposite-sex drugs on children's bodies. The medical system should not be experimenting on children. The medical system should be providing psychological counseling and support for gender-confused children, many of whom grow up to be gay.

3. There's a huge difference between helping a child's body develop naturally according to his/her biological sex, for example there might be an endocrinological issue, versus forcing cross-sex hormones onto a child's body.

4. The ACLU has not "protected" trans people in prisons. The ACLU has violated the rights of women in prisons by demanding that intact male sex offenders and murderers, who conveniently self-identify as "trans" be housed with the female population. For this reason, I terminated my monthly donations to the ACLU.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Supreme Court Inclined to Uphold Tennessee Law on Transgender Care - The New York Times

( WatcherattheGates )
Heartening. But so appalling that 3 of the 4 women justices would strike down this law if they could. For shame!

( FrankieDuck )
I'm not so sure it won't be 4 out of 4 women justices but it's very likely I missed something.

( Malenia )
So in 20 years after the trans crap is over, conservative men will point to them and be like, "See? Men know what's best for women! Women shouldn't be put in positions of power! They operate on feelings, not FACTS!"

( Lillith )
Amd all because they catered to the feelings of crossdressing men. The irony of it all...

( PeregrineWitch )
Let's hope sanity prevails.

On a side note: Every SC pick for the last 40 years (and probably ever) is about one side or the other pushing a particular agenda. The Republicans have always had Roe in their sights, though a few of their picks (Souter most obviously) didn't work to that end. Now that Roe has been overturned, it will be interesting to see what their next agenda is.

What today made painfully clear, thanks to the rabid performance of KBJ, is that the Democrats' main agenda now is pushing the TRA agenda. Which would be the end of women's sex-based rights and protections.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Justice Thomas's question

( StrawberryCough )
This is all so dystopian, it's deeply disorienting. Radfems cheering on conservative justices, and me totally agreeing.

( Chronicity )
I’m welcoming the deprogramming I’m currently experiencing. If you’re able to acknowledge someone’s good points regardless of their political affiliation or personality type, that means you are probably an independent thinker.

It’s a much better way to be.

( Tq231442 )
Hitler himself could come back to life and say puberty blockers are wrong and I'd agree. Social media has turned people partisan to an astoundingly stupid degree. [...]

( babygrandpiano )
I think Alito's question was also brilliant. If gender is immutable then there is no such thing as transgender. If gender isn't immutable then it's not a protected status.

( wildclovr )
If he had asked a question like that on most of reddit or facebook, he would have been booted from the platform. And maybe had some kind of angry mob after him.

But, we're at the U.S. Supreme Court now and things just don't function the same there as they do online.

( OneStarWolf )
This. Because it can be a temporary mental illness and/or a paraphilia.

In girls/women, transgenderism seems to manifest more like anorexia or cutting, a self harm or defensive mechanism in reaction to emotional trauma, abuse, and sense of self worth. In boys/men, it’s more a paraphilia and fetish through porn and autogynephilia, but can also be self-worth reaction in homophobic gay males.

Transgender status is also very commonly used by male predators as a disguise choice, to both game the system for sympathy and use for other benefits (access to women and children, lesser prison time, access to women’s spaces/benefits).

These are all varying obsessions that can be damaging but also stopped and people can desist and move on from it in their lives, assuming the resulting self-harm isn’t too devastating for them to accept.

So yes, being “trans” is hugely variable and not close at all to being an immutable status. It’s a changing state of mind, and can be a fad, a fetish, a mode of self harm, a disguise, and it can differ greatly in how and why it presents in males vs females while simultaneously being cormorbid with many other mental problems and fetishes.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Did trans help Trump to victory? - The Democrats’ embrace of gender ideology made The Donald look like the sensible one.

( shewolfoffrance )
I think it absolutely did. It's not like either side was offering much to female voters, but most people who have any exposure to trans it are repulsed by it. Neither men nor women like the idea of their children being secretly groomed at school; or their daughters being forced to compete against males in sports, or share dressing rooms with them. And Democrats spent the last eight years or so going balls to the wall defending exactly that.

( Architectura )
It’s also one of the most concrete images and differences. Grocery prices and rent seem destined to rise regardless of who’s in office, but penises in women’s locker rooms? Only one side supports that.

( Feerique )

And why would anyone vote for a politician who is prepared to lie about sex, something so basic even dogs understand it?

And this is the crux of the matter for me.

( Researcher1536 )
This is EXACTLY why my entire perspective and worldview shifted so drastically going on 5.5 years ago. Once you see that certain people are flat out lying and telling you you're a bigot if you don't agree with the lies, you start seeing the lies that prop up so much of what is on the political platform of the Left. If you can lie about something as fundamental and apparent as sex, you can, and WILL, lie about anything. Thus, so many of us are politically homeless.

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
When I first saw the "Harris is for they / them. President Trump is for you." ad, I thought Trump was going to win. The Trump campaign aired this ad all over major sports events, too.

The interesting thing is that they didn't run anti-trans ads up until the last few weeks before the election. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but Democratic volunteers I assume are fairly uniformly pro-trans, so if the Harris campaign rolled back her previously expressed views on the topic, it probably would have aggravated most of their volunteers at the most critical time of the election campaign.

( Feerique )
I think libs and progs silenced so many people through witch hunts that they forgot just how many people weren't protesting because of fear and not because they agreed with them.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

GOP Lawmakers Team Up to Define Male and Female by Biology

( DurableBook )
Fascinating to watch the party of Christian Dominion be the one to argue that people's rights ought to be based on the material reality of their bodies and not on their presumptive souls.

Really drives home how impressively terrible the Democratic party has become.

( PerenelleFlamel )
Also I think the Republican party is changing a bit these days. [...] But honestly, with the Dems pushing so many of their supporters out of the party because of the purity spiral, a lot of different voices are now 'Republican', and many of the old hated members of the GOP are being replaced by Trumpers and straight-up populists.

What an interesting time to be alive.

( Chronicity )
I’ve been saying it for a while.

Politically homeless liberals are going to start voting Republican.

Their left-leaning slant will help more moderate Republicans get elected.

The face of the GOP will start getting browner and more urban as well.

If the Dems continue to cling to unpopular priorities, we might just see the Republicans move closer to being the party of Lincoln again.

The odds of this happening are slim but it’s not impossible.

( wildclovr )
I think it's interesting that Trump, Musk, and RFK are all former democrats. What is this - the republican party is now the party of democratic party rejects?

I just think it's interesting.

( goldenheartcc )
I don't support the GOP, and they have absolutely no interest of women at heart, but it would be nice to at least have legal sex-based reality be a thing again - like yeah, abortion is very much a legal sex based reality [..], and no, there aren't hundreds of thousands of TiPs jumping ship in sports to play for the opposite sex, but I would like bathrooms to be BATHROOMS again.

[...] it's just so fucking annoying when men want to be recognized legally as women when that will never fucking happen biologically!!!

edit to add: the ending is so interesting and really echoes what we say here. unfortunately that blows up in our face because it makes us look like we're (all) bible thumping republicans. no. we just want males to leave us the fuck alone.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Can Someone Explain to Me How "Gender Critical Is a Cult"

( legopants )
It's just the classic uno reverse card that TRAs do.

We say trans ideology, they say "gc ideology"

We say transcult, they say we're a cult

We say they're homophobic, they say we're homophobic

We say they're reinforcing gender, they say we're the ones doing so

Etc etc

( AsterRising )
There honestly isn't much of a "thought process," because people like this are terminally delusional. They believe their views are absolute fact, so anyone who disagrees with them must be a Nazi, in a cult, etc. They're just not capable of fathoming any reasonable motivation for opposing their point of view. Also, it's funny to call GC feminism a cult, when it's possibly one of the most ideologically diverse movements in the Western world. Like, which other movement currently unites radical feminists, conservatives, and political independents in the same way?

( crodish )
It's mostly TRA being stupid and parroting stuff they don't understand in an attempt to make themselves look smart.

They see us saying "gender ideology is a cult" - which it is because all of it is based on falsehood and follows the BITE model. We don't ostracize people who were GC and then became TRA again (which happens extremely rarely) at the rate they drop detransitioners.

Then they go "hurr more like being a TERF is a cult amirite?" and post that to reddit and get millions of botvotes

Then it spreads because these idiots live by upvotes and clout.

There's no substance behind any of it. They're just going lalala not listening haha ratioed! Owned! No u!

🙄 It's only worth arguing with or correcting them for the bystanders watching the clown show.

( CharieC )
Heard this too, been equally baffled, but let's face it: anything we say about the gender ideologues, we'll hear back from them about ourselves five minutes later. They've cannibalised the language of every robust movement to suit their needs (mental healthcare, reproductive rights, gay liberation, etc), and we're not special — any sufficiently witty or sound-bitey commentary gets instantly reversed. At this point it's basically playground-level "no you're ugly", and frankly doesn't deserve that much of your earnest engagement. If any.

NoName, Mr_Tobo & wildclovr #transphobia ovarit.com

J.K. Rowling and Nancy Mace Are Right: Women Deserve Their Own Safe Spaces

( NoName )
It seems the tide may be turning. USA Today is more mainstream than a lot of the media that usually report that women need their own safe spaces away from men.

The Washington Post isn't leaving trans positive articles alone just yet. Democrats need to get it into their heads that the public are not falling for this vile policy.

( Mr_Tobo )
Single-sex bathrooms are under attack in my university, often being replaced with unisex ones. I mean multi-stall bathrooms by the way. Even ones that are labelled as men's or women's sometimes have a sign urging us to trust that people know which bathroom to use... Ridiculous.

Also, has anyone else here noticed how TRA-types have quietly stopped talking about Muslims in a positive light? I wonder if some have realized that they're actively taking away places where Muslim women can fix their hijabs away from men and boys.

( wildclovr )
Nah, they don't care about Muslim women at all, or about ANY women at all -

But it's possible they might have noticed that in general, most Muslim countries are not exactly pro trans.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Moderation Is Not the Same Thing as Surrender. Democrats do not, in fact, face a choice between championing trans rights and completely abandoning them. - The Atlantic

( ArtemisCitrine )
On the contrary, I think TRAs are correct that moderation is not possible. Once you keep boys out of girls sports, you've admitted that trans-girls aren't really girls. Chait exhorts the Dems to, in effect, cherry pick where they'll pretend that TIMs are women and where they won't pretend. Chait doesn't see that the cherry-picking goes on forever: why should TIMs be allowed in women's restrooms, locker rooms, shared hospital rooms, rape crisis shelters, domestic violence shelters, La Leche breastfeeding support groups.....

( pennygadget )
Well said.

The core of trans ideology (and TIMs specifically) is the colonization of female-only spaces. They have already made it clear that they won't settle for their own third spaces. They won't compromise. They want unfettered access to ALL women's spaces and opportunities. And once you deny them one space (like, let's say, sharing prison cells with women), you're already admitting that their claims to be women are bullshit. So it doesn't make sense to compromise on smaller things like letting them into the bathroom or letting them change their IDs to "female"

It really is all or nothing

( Wokeuplate )
In addition to all the direct harm this ideology causes, I resent that it necessitates me being so stridently, virulently “extremist” in that my conclusion is always “No, there is no compromise. No, there is no middle ground. No, there isn’t even an inch that I can budge.” It is all fake, all a lie, all destructive. There are no redeeming elements, not one. If I heard someone speak this way, I would write them off as a kook, or worse. But with this ideology, there is no choice. It has to be #holdtheline and #noquartergiven.

( worried19 )
The problem is that fervent TRAs do not want compromise or moderation. It's all or nothing with them. They would rather see all their progress go up in flames than make reasonable concessions. Purity-driven ideology is simply unsustainable when you are asking the American public to believe in biological impossibilities and act as though the two sexes do not exist.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Rep. Seth Moulton: Democrats Are Wearing an ‘Ideological Straitjacket’

( NoName )

“I do know that women’s rights are important and trans women’s rights are important, so we have to find a balance that makes sense,” he said. “And if we can find that balance as a party, I think we can turn this around and actually win on this issue.”

Want to know what the balance is? Men out of women's spaces. That's all it was ever about. No feminist has ever advocated for any harm or discrimination against trans people. They just want men out of women's locker rooms, sports, prisons, rape crisis centers. Seeing as they have so much funding, they can make their own rape crisis centers and trans shelters. It's odd that they don't. Actually, it's not odd that they don't. We know why they want in women's spaces.

( pennygadget )
The problem is that the "rights" TIPs are demanding are the right to force their objectively untrue delusions onto everyone else (even if that means destroying society in the process). Coddling TIMs is no different than banning non-kosher food to please observant Jews or forcing all women into hijabs to please Muslims. Its trampling all over the majority's objective needs and rights in order to serve the nonsensical religious beliefs of a small minority

Comparing the trans "struggle" to the fight for women's basic civil rights is an INSULT

( hellamomzilla )
Yes. And, it’s all based on fetish driven sexual compulsions and once you recognize that, you can’t unsee it. There’s absolutely no reason to privilege the sexual desire of perverted men over all girls and women. Keep your sex life out of the public square. The end.

( MascaraRunsFree )
He needs to learn the difference between "rights" and "desired privileges." As long as he uses TRA language, he's not going to get to the fundamental issue. Women have no obligation to grant privileges en bloc, here ya go guys! Whatever you want!

In fact, it goes the other way round - we must ZEALOUSLY defend the rights of women and girls. There is no contest between privileges desired (so someone can derive the MOST sexual pleasure from their fetish, not my fucking problem) and rights. There's no contest.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Trump plans to kick transgender troops out of the military with 15,000 service members to be 'medically discharged' on his first day in office, report claims | Daily Mail Online

( Mizuna )
The most shocking thing about this is that there are 15,000 transgender people in the military. The US military has a long and ugly history of medical experimentation on its own members. How many of these 15,000 transgender members are unwitting test subjects for whatever sick experiments the higher-ups in the US military are running? I strongly suspect that this the latest chapter in that long and ugly history.

( itsnotaboutewe )
I recently read somewhere that it's to do with serving members requiring regular medication to sustain life. If you have type 1 diabetes you will not pass the medical exam to join. If you are diagnosed after joining, you can be discharged as medically unfit. It's all about being able to serve in combat conditions and being physically able to withstand difficult circumstances in battle. This was how the trans service members were discharged last time. They can't claim that without daily hormones they would die yet still say they are fit enough to serve.

( ProfTerfMom )
How many trans-identifying people enlisted solely to have their medical transitions paid for by the military? The government is going to save a ton of $$$ and have a healthier fighting force.

Good riddance.

( MadSea )
Most of them are considered non-deployable so there really is no point in keeping them in the military. They are a drain on resources better spent elsewhere. Also female soldiers deserve to have their dorms and showers free of males. This is a win and I hope it’s what happens.

( Biologia )
We still eat the costs of their medical if they are medically discharged, along with unemployment/disability benefits.

Simpler to just stop funding for transition & stop letting people legally change their sex. Then the ones who are in the military for free cosmetic surgeries/steroids will leave on their own (or even better- accept the reality of their sex instead of creating 15,000 TRA martyrs)

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Will the Democrats finally start listening to the TERFs? [by Kara Dansky]

( wildclovr )
I think there are some people who are deeply invested in this and have no real way to back off of it, and so for that reason, the Democrats are going to wind up losing a few more election cycles before they give up on transgender.

But we're already seeing some cracks, and I think change is coming. Maybe the new up and comers won't be supportive of trans.

But, the old guard will hang onto it and are never going to admit they were wrong.

( Gray )
I really hope Democrats wake up soon and start listening to TERFs before they lose all the sane people from their political party, or before they cause enough liberal Americans to become so disillusioned by politics that they give up voting entirely.

I didn’t vote in the recent election due to living in a solid blue state and because I felt so unmotivated to bother registering to vote on time this year. The transgender ideology propaganda that Democrats are trying to push onto everyone without limits or boundaries is part of the reason why so many liberal Americans either didn’t vote, voted third-party, or voted Trump.

The Democrats who are brainwashed into believing that “allowing males into women’s spaces if they identify as a woman” is the hill that they want to die on, are the ones who are ruining the Democrat party and are leading to what’s allowed the US political system to become so broken and polarized to the point that a misogynist rapist clown like Trump got voted in.

( PeregrineWitch )
No, they won't.

They are still making excuses and denials and claiming it's the ignorance, selfishness and bigotry of voters, doubling down on the righteousness of all their positions, decisions and opinions.

But all of this is just a smokescreen for the real problem: massive money from Big Tech, Big Pharma and the Medical Industrial Complex. Why would they listen to Terfs -- or any feminist -- when trillion dollar industries offer them billion dollar slices of pie?

( rkin )
This is the answer. When trans fails politically and potentially ideologically, some new version of transhumanism will take hold as an ideology. [...] Science isn't going to calm down on trying to edit the body post-birth with so much money on the line, so they'll come at it with some other social ideology to justify the science.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

I’d much rather share a ladies’ room with Sarah McBride than with Nancy Mace | Margaret Sullivan | The Guardian

( mathlover )
Well, then feel free to share the men's room with Mr. McBride. That is the only place where he will ever belong.

( babygrandpiano )
These handmaidens are testing my patience. We're supposed to be more concerned about TIMs getting UTIs than women getting assaulted, raped, and recorded. Won't someone think of the poor crossdressing men and their UTIs!?!?

Shut up.

( Cronelogical-order )
Also, you wanted to be a woman man, welcome to getting UTIs more often

Weird how they never find the downsides of being a woman gender euphoria UWU

( Carrots90 )
Cool.

If you can’t stand to be away from fetishistic cross dressing men, you and the other handmaidens have multiple options. You can pee with him in the mens room, in the all gender restrooms, in his private restroom, etc

You and the handmaidens can also try out for men’s sports or mixed sex sports with him

( dasehe )
Being a woman does not give you the right to consent on behalf of other women. We used to understand this. Women opposed women's suffrage, too. The mere fact of their disagreement does not mean women should not have had the vote.

( dasehe )
Someone should ask her about sharing a ladies' room with Isla Bryson.

( CrimsonSoleil )
Anytime people are asked about pedos in women’s bathrooms, we’re told, “those aren’t transwomen! Those are men!” So how can we tell the difference..? (Hint - we can’t)

( pennygadget )
They're making McBride the poster boy for this issue because he's a non-threatening, swishy gay man. Its easy for Sullivan to say that she'd be fine pissing in the stall next to him. But how would she feel if she or her daughter had to spend the night in a prison or homeless shelter alongside a male sex offender claiming to possess a lady soul? Would she choose sharing a cell with "Karen White" over sharing with Nancy Mace? I'm guessing the answer is "no"

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: AOC wonders what the Democrats can do to not fucking fail.

( Lilith )
Democrats just need to quietly drop the T. Like how they quietly dropped peace. Like how they quietly dropped labor unions. And age discrimination.

It seems to me that they have NO problem whatsoever dropping issues that are inconvenient to their donors. It's the issues that are unpopular at the polls they insist on dragging us down with.

( Veneficca )
This is where the forced teaming with LGB really hurts, because it's so hard to decouple now and so any attempt to talk about trans gets branded as homophobia or good old "anti-LGBTQ." I noticed that even snarky sites that make fun of trans anything got upset with Mace and branded her as "hating queer folk." Which immediately shut down all discussion of the real issue.

AOC knows her brand is being young and progressive so it's going to be impossible for her to go too far off script. All these "let's have hard discussions about where Dems go wrong" already have preset topics in place.

That said... I do think behind the scenes a few politicians understand. I just don't know how much the messaging will change. The best thing we can do is be vocal online and IRL to show that people are sick of this toxic shitshow.

( CharliXX )
I have no idea what it's like to be AOC. She's been a politician for so long she is part of "the swamp" but the lefty swamp of victim hierarchy thinking which puts a regular working joe of any color, sex or orientation as privileged over trans people (including rich perverts like Jamie Lee Curtis' son) or people from war torn countries a million miles away (including when those people commit literal atrocities and upload themselves to their victims' facebook doing it), and therefore unworthy of sympathy and policy. I genuinely doubt she will ever come around. We need new blood and even though Nancy Mace is on the right, I hope her bravery will inspire more left wing oriented women to become champions for reality. I think it's a real damn vote winner.

( Hollyhock )
I think that she knows trandgenderism is a massive problem for her political party, but she also knows how even she can be cancelled. It's as plausible that she's scared as it's plausible she doesn't get it, but I'm not sure.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

I love that someone in a position of power in America is finally saying what we’re all thinking

( syntaxerror )
I appreciate that she’s able to be so bold about it. Usually people like her (celebrities, politicians, influencers) go through a period where they try and be more gentle about it and sugarcoat the message, which is totally ineffective. We need to be clear.

( KevlarMagnolia )
Evergreen: the "Pronouns are Rohypnol" essay

"Of course trans women should use women's restrooms and locker rooms" hits normies a lot differently than "of course men who think they're women should use women's restrooms and locker rooms," and the trans rights activists fucking know it, hence their tireless efforts to keep statements like the latter from seeing the light of day.

I hope Mace is just getting started--I would love for her to bring this kind of clarity to discussions about, say, men in women's prisons.

( twinklebarbie )
Agreed! We need her! I really think she should use her platform to highlight some of the things that have been going on. Reduxx has plenty of new stories each day that the American public isn’t preview to but should be. This is how she will help women win the public. Unfortunately just calling them mentally ill (which they are) helps support the bullying argument, and she may end up setting us back on the left. I don’t think this should be a partisan issue. For example, she could have retweeted the video of the track and field runner begging school officials not to include males in their female track team. Democrats will have nothing to say to this.

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
Their fetish is not our new reality either

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Opinion | The Secret Behind America’s Moral Panic: What Democrats Are Getting Wrong About Transgender Rights - The New York Times

( Researcher1536 )
The election gave people the breathing room to finally start speaking out and up about all this gender crap. People aren't afraid of being socially and financially sacked by expressing common sense facts. So much tongue biting and swallowing feelings occurred over the years. Now reality can hopefully return to the forefront, even if it's currently being drowned out by TRAs screeching about trans genocide and how trans is connected to abortion and women's rights.

( ArtemisCitrine )
I read this op-ed twice and still don't get how trans rights are reproductive rights, as she asserts.

Not to be mean, but butch lesbians who transition late in life always look to me....not very bright. A young confused lesbian....I'll cut her slack. But this person is supposed to be a major intellectual.

( camino_medio )
She's glomming onto a popular point among leftists (reproductive rights) and working her arguments in from there. Fairly standard for the pro-gender ideology side, but her writing and arguments on the subject have always been embarrassingly disjointed to the degree of being bizarre.

( dasehe )
tldr; she's arguing that all objections to trans rights boil down to a cultural anxiety to force women to keep churning out babies. Trans rights break that paradigm - some of her argument acknowledges the sterility issue but 90% of it is "look, Putin is all for traditional family values and he hates LGBT and this is true of Trump and Vance too, therefore these issues are clearly linked."

If trans rights break the cultural anxiety to force women to keep churning babies in half, then defense of trans rights is no less than defense of reproductive rights.

I can kind of see where this comes from because I know some academics still tying themselves in knots, but I just feel her analysis misses a lot of things.

( faerieclaire )
I don’t understand either, unless she’s saying that since adults have the right to sterilize themselves, children should have the same right??? Which, obviously, no they shouldn’t

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Crowd cheered as two transgender women were attacked at Minneapolis rail station, advocates say

( dasehe )

After overhearing a group making derogatory remarks toward them at the station at Hennepin Avenue and Fifth Street in downtown Minneapolis, the pair “confronted” the group, which led to a “physical altercation,” Minneapolis Police told The Independent in a statement.

They should not have been attacked, but I'm not really interested in giving energy or compassion to TIMs at the moment. It's a very male response though.

( Joedi )
The last thing actual women would do is confront a bunch of men who were making derogatory remarks towards them.

( Mandy )
So a bunch of men got into a fight.

( notapatsy )
Exactly. Male behavior on both sides. If the two "transwomen" were really women, there is no way they would have confronted a crowd of men.

( shewolfoffrance )
See, it's because of incidents like this that I don't think TiMs are really that scared of male violence. They're definitely more cautious about starting something with other men, but they aren't exactly quaking in their sparkly pink boots. They like provoking a reaction and, if anything, they're more aggressive than the average man.

( hard_headed_woman )
People who are being "genocided" don't start fights.

( Carrots90 )
This works against our cause. Figures men will F this up

I mean, let’s see what the real story is.

[...]

This is a trans activist wet dream. Finally some transphobia to activate the activists.

Demand has been way outstripping supply when it comes to violence against TIMs. They are overwhelmingly perpetuating it

( Lillith )
Oh, I don't know. Being kind hasn't won us anything useful. Maybe this will drive some of them indo hiding or discourage others from ever transitioning.

And if the hecklers get away with it, it may make ppl less fearful of letting gender specials know how they really feel about them.

( Elizabelch )
We don't need this witch-hunt bullshit any more than we need men in women's restrooms.

However, the TIMs certainly got the female experience there. They'll have to learn to handle this like women do: Read the situation and most of the time, choose to ignore instead of escalate.

( neonbandit )
Must be nice to have male bone density when being attacked too.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Speaker Johnson restricts capitol bathrooms for trans people

( somegenerichandle )
McBride has already posted images of himself breaking the law by going into women's rooms to take selfies. https://x.com/RealityEnthusi2/status/1858849704160735661

I bet he's going to pull this in the Capital too.

( scriptcrone )
Figurative pissing to mark territory, as well as literal pissing to mark territory.

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
So completely male

( wrongthink )
great, now just extend the same courtesy to the rest of the women’s bathrooms across the country.

( WrongToy )
McBride announces he will follow the rules.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1859318581105988091

( Turtlefuzz )

This effort to distract from the real issues facing this country hasn't distracted me.

Except women have made it clear that males in female bathrooms IS A REAL ISSUE.

Christ on a cracker, he is so pretentious.

( pennygadget )
Its not a real issue when women care about it. But when a man wants to shit in a ladies toilet, its literally a matter of life and death. 🙄

( girl_pash )
The list of trans hypocrisy is extremely long lmao

( realityismykink )
If it's not a real issue then he should have no problem staying out of the women's bathrooms 💅

( sensusquaeram )
Once again, they left out the "each Member office has its own bathroom and there are unisex bathrooms throughout the Capitol" part (see https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/624991/first-trans-congress-member-is-banned-from-using-women-s-bathrooms-after-marjori) -- so if McBride insists on using women's restrooms in the Capitol, it's not an infrastructure-based necessity.

( Riothamus )
Oh please.

How is Congressman McBride supposed to jerk off in the presence of defecating women when he's in a bathroom by himself?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Marjorie Taylor Greene Misgenders First Openly Trans Congresswoman Sarah McBride: 'He's A Man'

( Riothamus )
2012: Republicans tell ridiculous lies to attack Democrats. Electoral failure.

2024: Republicans tell the even more ridiculous truth to attack Democrats. Electoral success.

This is what happens when you insist 2+2=5 and punish those who object.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
"Math is Racist" was sadly not an onion article

( sylviasmushrooms )
I was trying to explain the other day that gender woo is just as absurd and lacking in credibility as flat earth theory. Conservatives believe a LOT of nutty things, but the left has handed them gender theory on a golden platter to make THEM, of all people, look like the clearheaded ones who aren’t blinded by emotion and faith and are able to just say the absolutely obvious truth.

I’m mad at anyone who gives the nuttiest conservatives that gift, honestly.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Because they think they won't be the one who would be effected by this shitty ideology. TiMs are not on the face of come corporate executive ( remember that budweiser female executive who pushed Mulvaney ? ) shouting It's Mam!. They are clashing with working class who have to use the public restrooms, working as customer support directly interacting with TiMs.

( Begbie )
Can we also discuss this “openly” transgender description. Really? Tell me who the closeted ones were. They are trying to normalize the “trans people have always existed” thing even in the headline.

Now, do I think there have been transvestites in congress, yes. But sensibly, in the past, nobody would have voted for someone who dressed like this publicly. I prefer those days.

( Toseland )
Men dressed up as women may have always existed - but in the 1970s we called them perverts and took care to bring our laundry in, in case it was stolen!

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Rembmer Silence of the Lambs ?

( Iggyana )
Cross dressing is a common fetish of serial killers. Buffalo Bill was a compilation of many real world serial killers.

( readfreak )
There has always been transvestites. It's just that in the past they had the good sense to only do it at home in private, and in the 60s they got arrested for cross-dressing in public. A lot of cross dressers have more than one paraphilia, and a lot of serial killers have been cross-dressers.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender women to be banned from Capitol Hill female bathrooms under new House GOP proposal

( babygrandpiano )
From another article on the topic:

'The cruelty is the point,' Democrat Rep. Becca Balint, a co-chair of the Equality Caucus, told Axios. 'This is not just bigotry, this is just plain bullying,' Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said.

What a shame that two congressWOMEN came to the defense of this male colleague. Let his male colleagues help him with his fight.

( pennygadget )
AOC and Becca Balint can just go into the men's rooms or the special trans bathrooms with their TIM BFFs. Problem solved!

( faerieclaire )
It’s cruel to keep men out of women’s bathrooms LMAO

What about the actual women who want to have privacy? Oh right they’re not real people, we can be as cruel to them as we want 🙄💀

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
It's only bullying when a male is on the receiving end of it, apparently

( HelenaHandbasket )
How are they gonna keep their handmaiden bonafides if they don't stand up against this "injustice" against Mr McBride?

( pennygadget )
The country has a ton of REAL problems right now. But thank God women like AOC are willing to put all that aside so she can advocate for her male coworkers to shit in the ladies room

( RumorsFromInez )
There's only one transgender-identifying person in Congress, and that's a TIM named "Sarah" McBride. This is clearly directed at him, which is why AOC called it bullying lol.

( WrongToy )
McBride could be in a roomful of gop male senators using the toilet, and no one present would care.

Him being in the women’s means that gop women like mace would care.

( HelenaHandbasket )
Well, the GOP does have the power in the upcoming Congress.

If they use some of it for this issue, I'm not gonna be mad about it. Everything else they do will probably piss me off, but this one I'm fine with. Mr. McBride can go "hang out" with the other dudes in the men's room.

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
I'm a little salty congress will pass it for themselves but not for women nationwide.

Syndaballet #transphobia ovarit.com

"Big Brother" "Star" reports J.K. Rowling for "thoughtcrime"
So I just finished reading Orwell's 1984 and the irony can't be lost that a "Big Brother" "Star" has reported J.K. Rowling to the Thought Police.

So in the book, the children of the Party undergo "elaborate mental training" and in "Newspeak" terms, this involves "crimestop, blackwhite, and doublethink." Crimestop is where one realizes one is thinking a thoughtcrime and must censor oneself immediately.

The first and simplest stage in the discipline, which can be taught even to young children, is called, in Newspeak, crimestop. Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought.

If you've ever been an active member in leftist spaces, you know exactly what this feels like. To even entertain the idea that a TiM shouldn't be in some women's sports for example would be a heresy.

Then blackwhite, which is literally training onself to believe that black is white or 2 and 2 make 5, if that's what the Party says to believe.

Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink.

And honestly to believe a man can be a woman, to know a man can be a woman, and stopping yourself from believing or ever saying otherwise, has quite clearly been warned against in one of the most prescient dystopian novels to have been written.

I do recommend reading 1984 by George Orwell. I will note that the book can be extremely misogynistic at times, but I think it makes sense in a book where everyone is literally trained to be, as the book describes, stupid and hateful.

Big Brother is Watching. Let's see what the Thought Police verdict against J.K. Rowling brings. If the result is dystopic, I believe we need to react accordingly.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Trump wasn’t the candidate who made women feel bullied and repulsed

( Women1st )
Women are not a single issue. Expecting women to vote while continuing to dangle the abortion carrot is garbage. Too many women clued in that they will not codify rights into law. We were very clearly told that our rights to define ourselves, have single sex spaces, have women’s sports, and protect women’s prisons meant nothing. We were TERF bigots to complain about the erosion of women’s rights.

( NoName )
I remember a non USA resident on this forum asking prior to the election what Harris could actually do about abortion if she won. I remember commenting that Harris couldn't do anything without a majority in both houses. Seriously though, this issue should never have been left swinging in the wind for fifty years on the basis of Roe vs Wade. Some years back I remember hearing why RBG never liked abortion being hinged on Roe vs Wade.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
The forgot women have lives outside of you know, getting pregnant and having abortions on a daily basis.

Republicans did face the music during mid terms after Roe, but states stepped in. The stories about miscarriages are coming out rn are mostly medical negligence and poor interpretation of law, rather than being abortion ban.

But TiM infestation into the daily life is horrible

( Amareldys )
Are most women dealing with TIMs in their daily life?

( sanitycheck )
Might not be a great idea to ask that on this forum where many women here have dealt with tims and tifs and have children being taught this in school and family members being indoctrinated into medical self harm. Women in prison are dealing with tims in their daily life. Not having free speech to say men are men is an incursion into one's daily life. Worrying youll be fired or lose your career for stating the truth is something i'm dealing with in my daily life.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender-rights advocates say the election of Trump and his allies marks a major setback

( hard_headed_woman )
Well, at least we have one thing to celebrate!

( mathlover )
Let's hope it's a permanent setback.

( Mandy )
So sad. No special rights for the transgenders. Now they'll just have to make do with having the same rights as everyone else. Much unfair, very oppression.

( GenXer )
They're completely out of touch with reality. And, finally, it's being noticed by the greater population.

( Lillith )
I wish Trump would go after trans intrusions as hard as he went after women's choice.

( shewolfoffrance )
I remember when he banned them from serving in the military. At the time, I was a good liberal, but in retrospect it's perfectly sensible to ban men and women who will be lifelong medical patients, and, more often than not, are extremely emotionally unstable.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Welcome back, queen
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( Calamity )
The breather was nice, but my itch to scroll got the better of me halfway through,

It's nice to be back,

Watching the T blow smoke up their asses about consequences that will never come has been amusing.

There's something sickly bitter and entertaining to me, watching the demographics least likely to be impacted (heterosexual males & those engaging with them) from their own none-sensical bullshittery (sorry, the privilege to be in a space not wanting you there, and taking man-made pharmaceuticals to appease a subjective and socialized concept - is not your 'right').

Crying and moaning about their upcoming 'genocide' on their materialistic, lecherous and leeching demands, insane.

Meanwhile, actual women are losing bodily autonomy.

Clown world,

( RappaccinisDaughter )
Is it wrong that I ran to the MtF subreddit to see the tears after Trump was reelected?

( Turtlefuzz )
I did the same, it was so delicious 😈

( Jinera )
omg gyns it was ROUGH without any sanity from this website. Jesus what a long two weeks

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Is it weird that I used automation software to alert me when this site would be back online ?

( Turtlefuzz )
No lmao. I just checked habitually the past 10 days even though I knew we were on vacation. Today I just happened to be here when the site was up!

( Starburns )
So glad it's back with everything going on I'm desperate for this community's support and analysis!

eatmypussy & Jane_Merrydaughter #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Are we nearing mass peak trans? Is the tide turning?

( eatmypussy )
Recent legislation has made me extremely optimistic. (Almost all gender critical legislation is coming from the Republican Party though, as Democrats continue to double down on gender ideology and alienate voters). Regardless of which party is passing it, we should celebrate the progress we've made in the U.S to protect women's sex-based rights!

When it comes to gender critical legislation, we've come a long way from 2019. A few examples:

- 25 states now ban TIMs from competing in women's sports. This is a huge change from 2019, when 0 states had this legislation in place.
- 22 states ban the chemical castration of minors ("puberty blockers") and ban butchers from performing double mastectomies / phalloplasty / vaginoplasty on children. A HUGE WIN for child safeguarding!!
- 10 states have some version of a bathroom bill on the books which enshrine in law that bathrooms and locker rooms are single-sex facilities
- 7 states ban the teaching of gender ideology in K-12 schools (unfortunately, teaching about LGB is also censored as a result, as the TQ have linked themselves via the alphabet soup)
- 3 states have passed the WoLF sponsored Women's Bill of Rights in 2023, with more posed to pass it this year
- 2 states restrict drag performances from being performed around children
Half the country has made enourmous progress on this issue. I hope the Democrats will be forced to come around eventually as more of their base peaks.

( Jane_Merrydaughter )
I think the popular feminist schism has occurred at last, and that is a major development.

We are

Sex feminists

or

Gender identity feminists

I also think the TQ+ tail is falling off the LGB as people tease out for themselves that sexuality and “gender identity” have duck all to do with one another.

It’s pretty much double down or think your way out.

As a sex feminist, trans men and women in detransition are welcome to hang at my wimmins camp, and let this be a lesson to us all about why single-sex cultural and institutional spaces are critical.

I love that the final question in the Kathleen Stock lecture at UATX is a women’s college student asking about a revival of women’s colleges.

I say “Let’s go.”

Ground up.

If Bari Weiss can do it, why not a band of merry sex feminists of Ovarit?

MaryDyer, crodish & Elle_x_oh #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Are we nearing mass peak trans? Is the tide turning?

( MaryDyer )

Public support for LGBTQ is declining (likely due to the TQ)

It’s absolutely due to the TQ. Public support for stuff like gay marriage was at an all time high until the freaks started changing the meaning of words, demanding access to spaces that they are rightly excluded from, issuing violent threats to anyone who didn’t bow down to their demands, dismantling common sense protocols like safeguarding of children, teaching a new, warped, regressive, highly controversial ideology to children as though it’s undisputed fact, making an effort to alter the very way that humans identify and address one another, as well as the ability to perceive and react to threats, defending literal rapists and murderers simply because of their magic genderfeelz, etc.

( crodish )
I've seen increased homophobia all around too, and not just trans-flavored homophobia ("lesbians can like dick" etc). Shit like "this is why we should never have let the gays marry" and "slippery slope is a fallacy my ass". The downfall of it constantly being marketed as "the LGBTQIA2S++" is that the LGB are forever collateral damage. Also doesn't help that as many LGB people want nothing to do with TQ rubbish, that there ARE LGB people who have been caught up in it, along with the spicy straight and queer with extra steps crowd. It's a fucking ugly mess. Everything wrong with the "LGBTQIA" movement can be traced back to "TQ" roots. They've made everyone associate "gay lifestyle" with "pedophilia" and "weird" again, the VERY THINGS gay people were fighting so hard to destigmatize.

Sorry I could rant about this forever.

( Elle_x_oh )
While I can appreciate the global move against trans creep and the efforts of all sane people fighting against it...I can't wait for the day when the members of my family, who at the moment don't talk to me, actually peak themselves.

Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

I don't care why dysphoria exists...
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Dysphoria, as these people like to think of it, doesn't exist. It's a made up concept, sort of like the whole "multiple personalities" schtick. No, you do not have this fictional condition that makes you unable to function in your own body.

What you're experiencing are feelings of self-consciousness, envy, shame, anxiousness, and dissatisfaction that every person on earth feels, except unlike most people who deal with these feelings in healthy ways and learn to let them go, you've obsessed over them to the point where it's all you think about.

That is what "real dysphoria" is. Self-centeredness to the point of not being able to function correctly.

Either that or sexual compulsions brought on by paraphilia that you indulge in to the point that they become a behavioral addiction that, like all other addictions, is hard to break and causes you "discomfort" when you stop indulging in it.

Edit: I'd also like to add that addictions tend to take over all of your thoughts and begin to consume you and you end up centering your entire life around them. These people don't need "gender care." They need addiction rehab.

Like many other addictions (food, drugs, hoarding, alcohol) this addiction may have come about due to adverse childhood experiences. Regardless, that's no excuse for allowing your addiction to derail your own life and the lives of others. Stop using examples of little gay boys calling themselves girls because they don't understand homosexuality yet, are afraid of being bullied, and don't actually know the physical differences between sexes, therefore associate being men and women with superficial sexist stereotypes to excuse your own perversions or your own behavioral addictions.

Leave the rest of us alone and get some help. Seriously.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

JK Rowling is on a roll today!
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( MardyMcMare )
She sounds a lot freer now compared with her carefulness just a couple of years ago. She knows she’s on the winning team, and has the support of millions of women. I admire her so much!

( LizardQ )
I think she genuinely tried to extend good faith to trans people...and they gave her nothing in return. They went full mask off. These fuckers seriously kill any goodwill that comes their way with their absolutely insane demands. People are waking up. JK is amazing. So eloquent and always spot on. She rules.

( Spencer_Shayy )
It's sad, but it's the path most traveled. At one point, we all tried to extend an olive branch to "trans" people - only to be beaten, threatened, insulted, degraded, dehumanized, and attacked by them in return.

"Trans" people create "transphobes".

( MardyMcMare )
”Trans" people create "transphobes".

This is so true. The more I “get to know” them - as I was advised to - the more repulsed I feel.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Yup. It wasn't "TERFs" who made me hate "trans" people. It was "trans" people. Their horrid behavior, their vile beliefs and evil ideology... they go against everything I stand for.

( Gray )
Relatable. I felt a lot of empathy at first for those feeling gender dysphoria because of course I could relate to it. I think a large majority of women and girls in the world do relate to not wanting to be female at least a few different points in our lives, for a variety of reasons. I still even feel some empathy for the TIFs who aren’t too far gone and unhinged. But the type of mental illness that TIMs is very different. It’s terrifying. And the way that TIPs and TRAs rally together to be abusive towards primarily the women who speak up against them. It disgusts me so much. I don’t have much empathy left for them no matter how much I try.

( proudcatlady )

Man isn’t a slur

Well they can be forgiven for thinking it is. If someone called me a man I’d be super offended. Worst group of people on the planet.

ApricotThoughts, Mari11 & Wsbfom01 #transphobia ovarit.com

Can men breastfeed is asking the wrong question

( ApricotThoughts )
Men want to "breastfeed" for the same reason they want to "menstruate." The are both faux/foe activities (foes to women and children). They are simulating women's experiences to experience sexual arousal, if not in the moment, then afterwards.

These men breastfeed with the baby as a sex toy. Once they've established "sex toy" status for the child, when does it stop? Wide open for continuing sexual abuse, even at a low level - the child has been sexualized, how does a man with a sexual fetish walk that back for the sake of the child?

Taking pictures of themselves doing this is porn for other men.

( Mari11 )
That’s the biggest red flag to me. I’d never publish photos of my toddler breastfeeding because I know there are gross freaks out there that would use it for nefarious purposes. I’m suspicious of anyone who publishes those sorts of photos on social media (some mums are just naive I guess but I’m sure these men doing it must know)

( Wsbfom01 )
Men have breasts yes, but the breast tissue is not as developed compared to a woman. If you have to induce both the growth of the breast tissue along with the production of milk with massive amounts of hormones and other medicine can you really say that it’s healthy and safe? Where are the studies showing that the milk produced by a transwoman is sufficient and healthy for a child? Is it really ethical? The study they love citing is based on a group made up of women who were not pregnant , trans identified females and trans identified males.

Woman who can’t produce milk are simply told to give formula and even women who breastfeed have to stick to a specific diet.

I don’t see the point of supporting this abomination just for the sake of “gender euphoria”. The funny thing is that if they ever manage to normalize this they’ll immediately want something else, menstruation , giving birth etc. they’ll never be satisfied , because they’re chasing something unattainable.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The idea that people who don't support gender ideology are on the far-right

( LunarMoose )
People live in such bubbles. If I went to a local coffee shop in my very liberal town and said anything mildly GC - chances are I'd be asked to leave.

Add to that, the media are captured. They are all 20 somethings who don't believe in journalism. I watched libs of tiktok and Taylor Lorenze (sp?) talk about trans-trends in kids. Libs was disappointing (she wasn't in command of the facts) and neither was Taylor (a left wing 'journalist'). She had NO CLUE. I don't think she's ever even researched the issue - despite the fact that she writes about it all the time.

:(

( worried19 )
It's a deliberate attempt to paint us as villains. Because to most liberals, conservatives are villains, so if someone doesn't have the "approved" view on gender ideology, TRAs have decreed that it must be because we're conservative in our hearts.

I'm a moderate overall, and I think moderates, liberals, and conservatives should be able to agree on how badly gender ideology is affecting women and children for many of the same reasons. It's wrong to sterilize kids. I think all sides can agree on that because we all believe kids have the right to grow up with their bodies intact and not altered by hormonal disruption.

( Gwenllian )
I think it is because the gender brigade have attached themselves like a rabid limpet to the left, they automatically view any dissent as being right wing.

Ironically their ideology of womanhood being a commodity they can purchase is capitalism on steroids. Their pursuit of privileges that take away women's rights, history and ability to protest is downright fascism. They attempt to convert lesbians and gays using brutal medical means. Forced speech and behaviour. Disobedience is punished severely through violence and censorship. They try to indoctrinate young children to their ideology. They disregard safeguarding procedures in favour of male sexual fetishes.

So it makes me wonder...how in the hell can they consider themselves left wing?

( Autumn-Aprodithe )
Gender ideology is all about letting men in drag invade our spaces as a birth right. I'm not right or left, I am a Matriarchy supporter.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( dragonheart )
The idea that people who don't support gender ideology are on the far-right
One thing that I have noticed being discussed in TRA circles is the notion that the "rise in transphobia" or any "transphobia" (aka critical thinking) is a result of far-right politics; the consideration that center or left leaning people could be gender critical and have "transphobic" opinions doesn't even enter the conversation at all.

I haven't actually come across any far-right gender critical people - conservative sure but nobody who I would consider extremist. It seems to me that the majority of gender critical people I come across are actually left leaning or somewhere in the middle depending on other factors.

Do you think TRAs purposefully ignore this fact because they can't as easily brand left-leaning people as hateful bigots or they are just delusional about it and think that left-leaning people all engage in groupthink and automatically support gender ideology?

( hellamomzilla )
I hate this formulation because I feel that opposition to the systemic politicization of trans theory isn’t basically political. I feel that opposing it is a reality, scientific situation.

I am opposed to this not because of my political leanings but because it’s all lies. Humans come in one of two sexes, the end. THAT is the basis of my disagreement with the idea that anyone can change her sex. Sure, as we all know, there are political ramifications, but at base, I’m standing on biological truth. I also get why most of the political fighting against the lie of trans is freedom of belief/speech, but I kind of hate it. Understanding the reality of human reproduction is not an OPINION.

( Eava )
You won't find far right or conservative gender critical people. [...] You will find plenty of far right people who are anti-trans, pretty much every legal organization that takes on cases is Dominionist Christian like the ADF, and any anti-trans belief is labeled "gender critical" because the media and TRAs don't understand feminism.

Believing sex is real and men can't be women and women can't be men isn't a gender critical belief, it is one common among right wing Christian extremists like the Duggars and other Quiverfull adherents.

( BellaBlue )
I self-identify as a Gender Critical Conservative. I'm right here.

WrongToy #transphobia ovarit.com

Trump invites 'brave' women's swim team that 'stood up to' transgender athlete to rally stage

As someone else said, the Dems could have and should have fixed this issue in their party after 2016 as it was said then that Obama’s pro trans policy sent voters to Trump. Instead, their pushback under Biden was inviting Mulvaney to the White House, hiring old AGP Richard Levine as a senior health official backing child transition, and trying to ram through an equality act ensuring all women’s spaces and sports would be Tim infested. Oh, and then the Easter party where some Tim flashed his boobs next to a couple of bare chested tifs with amputated breasts.

These days, the Dems don’t want to talk about it. So Trump will.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: What can we do?

( RusticTroglodyte )
I'm voting third party. Sorry but there is just no way Harris is secretly GC. She was giving rapists and murderers free breast implants years ago

( Veneficca )
Talk to people. Make this visible. People tend to support it when it's an abstraction - then they see real world consequences like Mr. Johnson the math teacher is now Miss Johnson and he's also coaching the cheerleaders and in their locker room. During abortion talks, I bring up the women getting pregnant in prison. Support falters when people see it in real life.

It takes bravery and a willingness to risk the loss of friendship. But more and more people are open to the conversation. Parents are mobilizing. More detransitioners will be suing. We can keep opening people's eyes and that's going to be very effective for women in particular, because so many of our groups and events and communities were given away by other women who thought they were being kind.

Essentially, we can focus on taking back women's spaces and let Democrats know this is not supported by their base. And we can get active locally by seeking leadership positions and then Trojan horsing them just like TRAs Trojan horsed the Left.

( truthisnthate )
You could become a supporter of DIAG (Democrats for An Informed Approach To Gender), it won’t cost you a penny. DIAG is working to educate democratic lawmakers and policy makers at the state and federal levels about the harms of sex-denialism. But to be effective, DIAG needs high numbers of supporters in state and federal districts to convince lawmakers that it is in their own best interest to change course on policies that erase women’s sex-based rights and endanger the health of minors. DIAG also has a forum for supporters that allows them to communicate with other supporters in their state so that they can plan actions and meet-ups.

( Opals )
Every now and then I go through my finances and try to look if I can leave companies that support gender identity ideology - and tell those companies why I am leaving

Might be something possible even on a low income

They will change when it costs them

And for people who are doubtful… look at ABInBev and the ‘Dylan Mulvaney’ scandal. People no longer buying their beer hit them hard

Lilith-Fair #transphobia ovarit.com

I don't read it that way though. When they say "all students/people", "all" actually refers to transwomen and other gender specials.

For a long time, I used to be really confused when they say, "Protecting trans rights protects all women". (Or something similar like "Excluding transwomen harms all women".) The way the statement is phrased, I assumed "all women" is a follow up to say that protecting trans rights would also protect biological women. The statement made no sense to me because the infringement on women's rights was precisely what GC feminists were talking about. Until it finally dawned on me that "all women" did not mean us. To them, biological women are the default, and "all women" is the catch-all for transwomen.

In other words, when trans rights are not protected, some women are not protected. Those some women are the transwomen. By protecting trans rights, all women are protected, not just the biological ones.

It's a very sly way of sounding like they care about biological women, when in fact the entire statement is about everyone else except biological women who don't identify as some other gender.

So now, when they say "We support all students/people . . .", it may sound like they are saying they support the girls/women too, but what they're really saying is "We won't consider only the needs and safety of girls/women who are the default. We support ALL students/people". "All" being the trans identifying ones. And no one is excluded.

I swear when they say "all", we need to make them explain clearly what do they mean by "all".

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

"The trans equivalent of blood libel was just broadcast to millions of people."
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( blibberinghumdinger )
I hate JD Vance but I'll be glad if the existence of AGP becomes mainstream. I'm sick of trying to explain the concept of it to people who are close to peaking and them looking at me like I have 2 heads and I'm making shit up. The majority of people have no idea that TIMs aren't all just gay men. People who actually know what AGP is are like a tiny fringe group online.

( Tq231442 )
It took forever to explain to my husband that most TIMs aren't gay males. The only TIMs he saw in his country were gay homosexual cross dressers who were almost exclusively prostitutes and who he felt bad for - he said he knew one who would frequently pop up at his restaurant beaten up and covered in bruises :( the dude liked "tricking" straight men at night while looking for clients

( shewolfoffrance )
It's crazy to me how many reasonably well-informed men are so bad at talking about this issue, even going to the extent of using preferred pronouns or thinking there's some mythical "true trans." It doesn't help that a lot supposed anti-woke men like James Lindsay and Benjamin Boyce are friendly with, and promote, open AGPs.

( shewolfoffrance )
I always thought that pediatric transition and AGP would be the two things most likely to peak a critical mass of people. I'm glad AGP was discussed on a big platform (finally), but I've become more skeptical that AGP itself would peak people. A lot of men are reflexively defensive of other men's problematic sexual behaviors.

( Jernsaxa )
Oh... I thought you couldn't possibly just stop being trans. Funny that 🤷

( SnowWhite )
You actually can as soon as it no longer benefits you. As showcased in everywhere else than west as well as trough history.

( NoName )
Bingo. I am pretty sure if access to women’s spaces went away along with being top of the oppression Olympics podium stopped, they would stop being trans.

( PeregrineWitch )
Terrified of what? That the people you've been fooling with your stories of oppression and murder might start seeing the euphoria boner behind the curtain of the Great and Terrible Trans? By all means, please stop 'trying.'

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: American Psychological Association adopts policy in favor of “gender-affirming care” and supporting the delusion of “gender identity”

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
I guess there's no better way to keep psychologists employed than to create more "trans kids" = lifelong psychological patients.

( notapatsy )
Here's what I suspect this means for me, a transwidow, if I were to seek out therapy for the trauma I experienced in my marriage (I'm now divorced) when my then husband declared he was "a woman in a man's body" and started acting out objectionable, misogynistic, pornified stereotypes of woman and sucked me into participating in his sexual acting out of them. The therapist will blame me for the breakdown of my marriage and try to re-educate me.

( Persimmon64 )
I love how people cite organizations like this as the word of God, like their opinions are the only ones that matter.

So there are 160 people voting on it. There are over 100,000 psychologists in the U.S.

My brother's friend works as a psychiatrist. He sees quite a few people who call themselves "trans". He says they're all seriously mentally messed up individuals (hence the need for psychiatric care even after they've had this miracle "transition" cure that's supposed to suddenly make them these happy, healthy individuals and make their anxiety and depression/suicidal thoughts disappear like magic. They all have a host of other issues, which of course is why they claim "trans" identities in the first place and which don't go away just because they start injecting themselves with horse piss extract.

( capributterfly )
The fallout from all this is going to be so fun to deal with in the coming decades. Especially for those who are being transed as kids. It does feel good to be on the right side of history but it sucks to know how many will be harmed by all this, who were either minors or had actual serious issues going on and weren’t helped in the way they should have been.

( Women1st )
Think of what the vote would be if they didn’t stack the voting members with TRAs and stifle and cancel researchers that present outcomes that don’t align with the groupthink?

Ladylucy & DurableBook #transphobia #enbyphobia ovarit.com

RE: So there's a prominent "vigil for Nex" in my city tomorrow.

( Ladylucy )
I don’t understand why enbies are considered trans. They are the opposite of trans.

( DurableBook )
Oh but seriously the trans/enby schism is one of my favorite areas of trans religious history.

See, there's one sect who see "transgender" and "cisgender" as the fundamental binary. Any person who is transgender is, by definition, not cisgender, and vice versa. Therefore, enbies are a type of transgender.

But there's another sect who divide people into the "binary gendered" or "non binary gendered". Any person who is cisgender is, by definition, binary, but the reverse is not necessarily true. A trans person who sees themselves as exclusively a man or a woman is also a binary gendered person. Therefore, enby does not fall under the "umbrella" of transgender, but rather is actually its own umbrella which trans people may or may not fall under.

If you haven't lurked trans forums and watched the internecine squabbles between these two factions in particular, I really encourage you to give it a try. It's like that old joke:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: "Stop. Don't do it."

"Why shouldn't I?" he asked.

"Well, there's so much to live for!"

"Like what?"

"Well, what about your identity? You have an identity, right?"

He said: "Yes."

I said: "Me too. What are your pronouns?"

"He/him."

"Me too. Are you AFAB or AMAB?"

"AFAB."

"Me too. Are you masc or femme?"

"Masc."

"Wow. Me too. Are you an allosexual masc he/him AFAB, or an asexual masc he/him AFAB?"

"Allosexual masc he/him AFAB."

"Me too. Are you an alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB, or an aromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB?"

"Alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB."

"Me too. Are you a cis alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB, or a trans alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB?"

He said: "Um, I'm a non-binary alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB."

I said: "Die, heretic scum," and pushed him off.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Kjk endorses Trump Vance on child transing

( Elle_x_oh )
If somebody held a gun to my head and said I had to choose between A) a wannabe president who would ban transgender surgeries or B) a wannabe president who would allow male prisoners to transition (and therefore enter female prisons?) I would have to choose A)

I understand Kellie-j's single issue stance would make it easier to choose. (glad I don't have to)

( Mizuna )

Hi Senator Vance.

I'm Elizabeth Mitchell from the Daily Signal. Former President Trump has said that he would ban transgender procedures for minors without parental consent...

-crowd interrupts with applause for 24 seconds-

Stuff like this is why MAGA maintains its popularity despite whatever accusations are thrown at Trump. Where else are you permitted in real life to applaud the banning of child transgender surgeries?

This is a problem entirely of the Democratic Party's own making. If you don't permit criticism of the transgender cult in your own party, then your opponent will. The Democrats had literal years to reconcile this issue within the party and chose the trans cult instead of the voters. Direct your anger at the institutions and powerful people who censor criticism of the trans cult rather than random voters who are sick of this and have no other recourse.

( itsnotaboutewe )
KJK has always said she is a single issue voter and that this is her single issue. She started Party of Women as a single issue party. Her candidates are from both the left and the right, and she doesn't care about their stance on any other issue. She voted on this single issue in the UK election. She will pick a side based on this one issue. This is not a secret and should not be a surprise to anyone.

( WrongToy )
She’s only the latest to be redpilled after Meghan Murphy and Arielle Scarsdella.

When I joined r/gc in 2015, you couldn’t link to the federalist or daily mail. Given that it’s been 98 percent conservative coverage on the gender critical issue, that rule became unwieldy…