@Taln_Reich

Understanderson #transphobia ovarit.com

Types of trans
One of the confusing things about trying to talk with people about trans is arriving at a shared understanding of what "trans" even means. The word is used to cover such a broad range of different issues. I sat and wrote it down, and will probably make a graphic of the list once I have it finalized (will share!).

Input? Suggestions? Thanks!

BOYS/MEN

- Classic trans (what most people still think all TIMs are): gay men (HSTS) with internalized homophobia (and in some cases misogyny) who are more comfortable pretending to be women. More likely to get surgeries than other types.

- Straight men (AGP) who are sexually excited either just by wearing women’s clothing or by the idea of themselves as women. Usually need to be “validated” by real women to keep the boner going. More delusional about their appearance than HSTS. Comfortable misogynists.

- Sensitive (mostly) young men who find male stereotypes restrictive or don’t want to be part of the oppressor group. Don't understand women.

- Men and boys caught up in sissy porn, anime and gaming. Incel to trans pipeline. View women as "living on easy mode." Overt misogynists.

- Drag queens - can be gay or straight—put on the “woman” with the clothes, parade her before the crowd, and take her off again when they’re done. Love using misogynist slurs when dressed up as women. Generally contemptuous of women.

- Trenders and opportunists

GIRLS/WOMEN

- Stone butches - “Life is just simpler if people think I’m a man.”

- Young, gender non-conforming lesbians. Internalized homophobia and/or confusion about a supposed lesbian community that includes men in dresses that it's bigoted to reject.

- Straight girls and women with internalized misogyny. Want to be loved by men as equals, not fetishized as female stereotypes; want to be recognized for their abilities and accomplishments without first being judged on their fuckability; are completely alienated by the idea of women presented in porn and popular culture and see what their mothers and other older women have been through and want nothing to do with it.

- Trenders and opportunists

Carol Dansereau #transphobia caroldansereau.substack.com

Affirming Trans Identities is Harmful.
Don't do it. And don't teach children to do it either.

There’s a lot of pressure everywhere to affirm trans and nonbinary identities, including those declared by children. Affirmation is touted as kind, righteous, and even lifesaving. Many parents are committed to teaching their children to affirm, seeing it as an extension of the basic respect they want their young ones to show everyone.

But affirmation is not kind, respectful, righteous or lifesaving. It is not benign. In fact, it is extremely harmful to those who are affirmed, and those who do the affirming. This article discusses why, focusing on affirmation with respect to children.
[...]
Affirming children hurts them.

Those who promote the affirmation of children’s trans or nonbinary identities insist that doing so is essential for the mental health of those children. They may even argue that children might kill themselves in response to not being affirmed. These assertions are based in ideology, not science.

[...]

If not affirmed most children who reject their sex, come to accept it. In contrast, affirmation locks children into body rejection. It delivers vast numbers of children to unethical health professionals who implement invasive procedures without any credible evidentiary basis for doing so. By affirming children, you put them at risk of infertility, sexual dysfunction, and a range of other serious health problems, for no good reason.

To make matters worse, there is a good chance that the child you are affirming is among the most vulnerable of children. He or she is likely to be coping with one or more significant challenges, such as mental illness, a history of sexual abuse, and autism. He or she could also well be same-sex attracted and dealing with homophobia. By affirming trans or nonbinary identities you may well push these children towards so-called “gender affirmation medicine” and away from the help they need.

Affirmation bolsters the mystical and dangerous idea that some children are “born in the wrong body.” It ignores not only the specific challenges individual children may be facing, but also the fact that they’ve been subjected to aggressive indoctrination which promotes dissociation from the body.
[…]

terfology , Ava & Wrenn #transphobia ovarit.com

( terfology )
“You Can’t Define Woman Because of XYZ”
“You can’t define woman because _____”!

• “Some women don’t get periods!”

• “Some women are infertile!”

• [Insert other willfully ignorant excuses here]

Ignoring the fact that everyone — including the people making these arguments — are indeed aware of what is a woman and what is a man, its also a miracle that they only seem to misunderstand “the exception is not the rule” when it comes to women’s rights.

Let’s try applying that logic to other things as well, shall we?

Mammals are animals where the females breastfeed their young, among some other qualifications. According to TRA logic, women that can’t breastfeed are no longer mammals.

Humans are bipedal. According to TRA logic, people who have lost their legs or cannot use them are no longer humans.

Humans have two kidneys. If you get rid of one, I guess you’re no longer a person!

It’s almost like… TRAs are full of bullshit, and know exactly what a woman — er, sorry, I mean an “AFAB” — is!

Women who don’t have periods know they are women. Women who can’t get pregnant know they are women. The only women who need reassurance that they are women, aren’t women at all. They’re men.

(Feel free to add more examples in the comments if you want.)

( Ava )
Yeah, "TERFs" don't even claim that fertility is what makes you a woman.

Infertile women still have a female reproductive system. We can see that their bodies would produce viable eggs if not for whatever issue is inhibiting the process. Meanwhile TIMs are never considered "infertile" for not producing eggs, because we can see they have a male reproductive system organized around producing sperm.

Topics like menstruation and pregnancy are relevant to women's rights because only women can experience them, but that doesn't mean all women experience them. But as you said, TIMs are willfully ignorant. I'm sure they can understand this logic, they just think that playing word games will force people to accept them as women.

( Wrenn )
For people who claim to be so scientific, they really quickly forgot the basic premise of a subset.

Here are some to refresh the memory of any lurkers :

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Not all women have a uterus. But all adults with a uterus are women.

Not all men are pornsick AGPs who cut off their penis. But all pornsick AGPs who cut off their penis are MEN!

IrissaIridium , WitchPlease & no- #transphobia ovarit.com

( IrissaIridium )
DAE notice the difference between lesbians' and transbians' responses to being excluded from dating pools?

Lesbians: *completely excluded from being with over 95% of women who are absolutely unwilling to date them*

Lesbians: "It sure does suck to have such a small dating pool! ☹️ I wish I could meet more compatible lesbians to date."

Transbians: *completely excluded from being with less than 1% of women who are absolutely unwilling to date them*

Transbians: "SUCK THE LADY DICK, DYKE! 💢👊💢 KILL ALL TERFS! DIE CIS SCUM! *slithers off to Preddit to post another sour grapes post about mean, ugly dykes/manifesto about lesbians unpacking their sexual biases and genital fetishes/payback rape fantasy against lesbians*"

Nothing says "I'm a man" quite like thinking you're entitled to sex and getting argumentative, aggressive and violent when you're told "no" by a tiny sliver of the population you'd like to have sex with.

(I know plenty of straight and bi women are unwilling to date TIMs too but my point is that lesbians are the only group TIMs have absolutely no hope of being with and they can't even handle the rejection of a tiny population of women without losing their shit).

( WitchPlease )
I find it very funny how they demand to bee seen as ~real lesbians~ and that lesbians date them, but they get upset that their "lesbian" spaces are filled with sausage. They barely pretend to believe the thing they demand everyone else to believe. They know they are men, they know others like them are men, but lesbians are not allowed to notice that.

( IrissaIridium )
I notice they don't go hard against other transbians who only want to be with real women. I've heard TRAs make some weak noises about "internalized transphobia" but it's nothing like the heavy bombing campaign against lesbians. I think their main objection to transbians saying "no T4T" is that those transbians are saying the quiet part out loud and if they're allowed to say that without repercussions, lesbians might get the idea that we are too.

( no- )
If they really believed trans identified men can be lesbians, they’d stop complaining about transphobic terfs who won’t suck dick and start dating each other.

Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

What do Munroe Bergdorf and Andrew Tate have in common? | The Spectator

Haven't read the article yet, but imo, TIMs and AIMs (alpha-identified males, as I'm now going to refer to them) are just two sides of the same sexist coin of misogyny two testicles of the same scrotum.

They view men and women, not as male and female people with their own individual feelings and personalities, but as stereotypical roles we all play. Everything for them is about image.

Woman = feminine/submissive

Man = masculine/dominant

Women exist to be used by and serve men.

Edit: "two testicles of the same scrotum" I'm using this all the time now. Brilliant.

ImNewHere & overanddone #transphobia ovarit.com

( ImNewHere )
I expect a fair few of you have also been through the sinking, often scary feeling of your female friends deserting you for being gender critical. How do you reconcile it and move on?

Yesterday I posted on instagram stories ‘I’m sick of this. It’s not hard to say woman’ under an article about women’s reproductive health that referred to ‘uterus owners’ and ‘people who get pregnant’ etc. That’s all I said. Within hours I’d had 3 separate girlfriends tell me I’m wrong because transmem aren’t women (nnng!!!), and 2 others flatly say I’m a bigot. A couple have unfollowed me. I’m talking people I’ve known since university.

I know reading this on the screen has a degree of anonymity and therefore it’s easy to say well that’s stupid, find new friends. But obviously it really really hurts too. And it’s really quite alarming to feel that you’re the only person who hasn’t fallen for this emperor’s new clothes lunacy. Most of my friends are the intelligent left-leaning types – like me!

Anyway, how do you mentally cope with it? I’ve been sick to my stomach all day. I’m confident that I’m right and I have a right to my own opinion, but it still doesn’t take away the feeling of “oh shoot, should I have done that?!”

( overanddone )
It's fear. They are afraid. Sad to say, I have many former friends like this. It was painful, but through the pain a few people poked their heads up and said me too. I treasure those people. They are true friends.

I circled the wagons with the few I could trust. And then...I am happy to say we spend time mocking the cult and figuring out ways to poke the beast. They are so easily mocked!

They know we are right. Who could argue with women's reproductive systems and how they affect our lives? Who could argue that a man should strip search a woman passenger in a TSA back room? Who can argue men in women's sports...prisons...hospitals...

We all could go on and on. Your friends know they have to tow the TRA line or be subjected to the same behavior you are receiving. They are scared. And they are not as strong as you are. They may also believe it's a right wing issue, that no one on the left is not enamored of the gender cult. This is so not true.

Find your few friends or family with whom you can be honest. Then have a right good gathering and mock the afflicted. My mother would not be proud that I just said that.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

“Gender-Affirming Care” Is Increasingly Being Recognized as Unscientific

( pennygadget )
Trans is the only mental/medical condition where the patient is allowed to diagnose themselves and decide which medications and surgeries they need. The doctors only exist to rubber stamp whatever they want. That's how you know the whole thing is bullshit

( Persimmon64 )
Trans is the only subculture fad that allows people to get cosmetic alterations and drugs given to them by doctors to enable them to get a certain aesthetic and the only subculture/fashion/fad that not only relies on fantasy, but forces others including the government and our laws, to play along

( SamanthaK )
Our paychecks too. Since gender affirming care is often paid for by the taxpayer.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
In the famous TV show House MD, its a running theme sorta that patiests lie, always. And House never took any patient for face value for what they were saying.

Wonder how they would've handled TiMs

( syntaxerror )
House frequently makes TRAs screech because of that episode where the patient of the week ended up being an XY male with androgen insensitivity syndrome (basically unresponsive to testosterone) making him appear to be completely female. The problem ended up being cancer on one of the patient’s undescended testicles.

House says the ultimate woman is a man and then says that he has cancer on his left testicle and the patient flips out and screams “I’m not a boy, I’m a girl!” It was revealed earlier in the episode that the girls father had sexually assaulted her (sex at her request, but she was supposed to be 15) and then House basically makes a comment about the dad being gay, now.

What I’m saying is, I can promise you House would not have put up with Trans bullshit for even a second. He was offensively blunt and cruel, and didn’t even mince words with a totally female presenting hermaphrodite because he had a Y chromosome

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Normal people being awoken to the crazy shit you people are saying/doing =/= “far right” trying to start a culture war
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( Unicorn )
Nah buddy, people are just sick of being fed bullshit.

And transgenderism is basically a culture war. The entire concept of trans exists on gender—socially, culturally, constructed sex-based stereotypes. Your group has been a "massive culture war" since its inception.

( no- )
“Why do people hate us just for existing?” They ask. No one gave an f about transsexuals before they decided everyone had to pray to their gender god or lose their jobs and reputation. Transgenderism is a lie, a pseudoscientific but profitable fabrication. There’s only so much bullshit and censorship people can take before they get sick of it, especially when it’s causing as much damage as it is.

( ratherbecomes )
That's what gets me. They started the culture war, and when anyone gets involved against it, they accuse them of actually being the ones starting a war.

( OwnLyingEyes )
They think they have some kind of divine right to tear everything down and remake it to suit themselves and are outraged that other people think we have some kind of right to oppose them.

( Exempli_Gratia )
Shit, it's not even just opposition, it's anything short of absolute brainwashed obedience - they want to completely recreate reality and the way we perceive it and we're not even allowed to say, "no thank you, I think I'll stick with my current beliefs and worldview." We have to live in and completely accept and believe their reality or they'll throw a gigantic screaming shitfit.

I'm sick of being asked to submit to the tantrums of grown-ass adults. I refuse to do it any more

( Women1st )
That’s how you silence someone. Call them a racist, transphobe, Karen, whatever.

( pennygadget )
"I don't think kids in public schools should be forced to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and Savior. Its not fair to kids who don't believe in Christianity"

"OMG BIGOT!!! YOU WANT CHRISTIANS TO DIE!!!!!?????"

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Very human problems in the field of gender medicine

( Calidris )
I'd never tell anyone else what they should think, and I definitely do understand where you're coming from.

But I disagree. I am going full on scorched earth and I will call these people what I think they are, evil. If you cannot call the doctors who cut healthy organs off of mentally ill people evil, what is even evil? Thinking you're doing a good thing is not an excuse, as a German I should know, all our Nazis did their crimes against humanity for "the greater good" after all.

( sylviasmushrooms )
I’m an American. I think a big part of the problem is that people literally DO forget that the nazis and their followers were human beings, doing monstrous things… not monsters, unconditionally evil beyond comprehension.

That framing makes it easy for other people in this era doing monstrous things to write it off, because it’s as if a weird sense of determinism is guiding people’s morals. “Only monsters could ever fall into dangerous and damaging ideologies built on hate. I’m not a monster, therefore my ideology with colorful flags is good. We aren’t coercing and suppressing dissenting thoughts and speech, we are defeating HATE, among other monsters, who therefore must be nazis.”

The evil inherent in this must be acknowledged, absolutely, but humans are the only species that just keeps falling for it so I think there’s a lot of truth in this piece.

( Persimmon64 )
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

We have countless movies and books and story arcs covering this very common theme, yet people are unable to recognize it when they are the ones commiting the atrocities.

( Spencer_Shayy )
I'm sure they also used the "greater good" excuse for lobotomies too. They sure as fuck use it for every goddamn war.

( elizamondegreen )
They're doing a terrible thing. That's not the same as doing a terrible thing with terrible intent... but of course very few people do terrible things with terrible intent. Most have to be persuaded by some idea -- however dangerous and deadly -- that they are doing some kind of good for someone (no matter the costs to others).

But where I suspect we agree is that their intentions don't diminish their culpability whatsoever.

FemmeEtal & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

No, she’s not the “other mother” she is THE mother
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( FemmeEtal )
The mommy fetish is probably the most disgusting for me. These men don’t feel maternal instinct, they never felt a stirring in their nonexistent wombs, lactated and fed an infant that came from them. They just have sick twisted desires and disorders about their own mothers and want to pervert the most innocent and pure thing, a child calling for their mother. It’s vile and infuriating.

( Spencer_Shayy )
This is so vile. I hate men.

SlowCollapse & pennygadget #transphobia ovarit.com

1 in 6 Hiring Managers have been told to stop hiring white men

( SlowCollapse )
Not gender-related you may say?

But consider this. There is one and only one way for a 'straight white male' to opt out of that lowest-of-the-low identity. Transition! - and that gets them directly to a triple oppression combo, trans/woman/lesbian, suddenly they're precious 'diverse individuals', in high demand by DEI-driven hiring.

Is the demonisation of the 'straight white male' a factor in the rise of trans identities? This isn't related to anger at men for their violence and mistreatment of women, it's about the weaponisation of intersectionality to create a common enemy of all 'oppressed groups', and lash out at it. It has been enabled by the redefinition of words, 'you can't be racist against whites or sexist against men', the same weaponisation of language that has empowered the trans movement.

( pennygadget )

Is the demonisation of the 'straight white male' a factor in the rise of trans identities?

I absolutely believe that it is. How can a White Man resist doing something simple to take himself from the bottom of the oppression stack to the top? Especially if he runs in leftist circles and it will benefit him in multiple avenues?

Persimmon64 , Uber & RighteousIndignation #transphobia ovarit.com

( Persimmon64 )
New Year's Resolution
I'm done using their language. I'm done playing their games.

My New Year's resolution for 2024 is to stop it all and take my language back.

I'm not calling it "transition" "medical transition" or "social transition" ever again. It's pretending to be the opposite sex. It's cosmetic surgeries, synthetic hormones, and genital mutilation for the purpose of deceiving others into believing one is the opposite sex.

I'm never calling another person "trans." They're men who pretend to be women and women who pretend to be men. The only concession I can make is calling them "trans-identified" as that's what they are, people who call themselves "trans." Otherwise, "trans" is a nonexistent concept that I won't play lip service to any longer.

No more "gender dysphoria." I'm calling it how I see it in different individuals: abusive parents, sexual fetish, low self-esteem, self-consciousness, body dysmorphia, autism, internalized homophobia, internalized misogyny, and plain old sexual perversion and misogyny.

No more "gender." These are sexist stereotypes and expectations we're talking about here.

I would encourage everyone here to stop using their terms as well. The language we use shapes our perceptions of the world around us. I know it will be difficult, as I've become so used to seeing, hearing, and using these terms myself, but I've found the more I do it, the easier it gets.

Any other words or phrases I should eliminate from my vocabulary?

( Uber )
Inclusive. I don't use it but I fucking HATE it, like nails on a chalkboard.

It's not really about different races, religions, nationalities, and sexual orientations (unless they're homosexual males) coming together so much as made up identities, victim mentalities, and people who are severely mentally ill and refuse to take the logical steps towards getting well.

( RighteousIndignation )
inclusive to me is just 1984 doublespeak it means exclusionary, it means threatening and excluding those who do not hold the fascist line.

I wave two fingers at everyone who uses the term inclusive, these people and organizations are creepy AF, its the soft spoken through gritted teeth I hate it, Jeffery Marsh is a prime example of what I mean, he hisses comply or else through a fake smile and childish tone.

Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: 2024 could be the year America's trans bubble bursts - The Post

"The biggest drivers of public opposition to the trans movement has always been trans activists themselves"

I always love when people point that out. I was pro-live and let live for "trans" people until I actually met "trans" people and was exposed to the deranged, vile, hateful beliefs they have. To any "trans" lurkers who may come across this, YOU are the reason I hate you and your evil ideology. Congrats on all the enemies you've made. Really. It's mind boggling. The only "marginalized" group people feel LESS empathy towards the more they get to know you.

"General society is not willing to allow more rights for transgender people"

That's because you have "rights" confused with "privileges". You asking for special privileges (and that's all "trans rights" is) is NOT the same as supporting basic human rights for groups that are ACTUALLY oppressed.

"Public understanding of trans issues was always something activists explicitly avoided"

And here lies the heart of the hypocrisy. "Trans" people are treat everyone else like evil idiots, dangerous animals who are just so ignorant until the "wise" AGP incel or self hating pickme girl comes to "enlighten" us, insisting we'd change our minds if we "got to know trans people". And yet, the only reason your heinous ideology has taken hold in modern society is because of a decades long campaign done BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, with "activists" explicitly telling each other to avoid contact with the public and media. Read the Denton document. We were worried about the wrong fascists infiltrating.

Bring on the lawsuits. Bankrupt and jail every butcher who surgically experiments on people. Remove the licenses of every counselor and social worker who tells someone, especially a CHILD, that they're "born wrong". Fire every teacher who pushes children down the pipeline to sterilization and medical mutilation. Take the children away from the parents who "trans" them. Dismiss every doctor who pushes this heinous science denying ideology on their practice and patients. Drag everyone - regardless of who they are - supporting this hate movement wrapped in a pink and blue how.

It's time to put an end to these conservative-in-liberal-clothing tyrants once and for all.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( MaryDyer )
A common theme from “transbians” on lesbian subreddits
They’re constantly posting about “I just wanna girlfriend”, “why can’t I get a girlfriend?”, “I wanna be someone’s girlfriend”, “how do I get a girlfriend?”

I mean, if it wasn’t already obvious that the vast majority of “transbians” are simply incels trying to re-market themselves, then their posts should be evidence.

1000% desperate incel behavior. It’s pathetic.

( pennygadget )
They could easily solve their problem by dating one another. But they don't because they know that all the transbians are disgusting men. They crave the validation of guilting an actual lesbian into fucking them

Many of these scrotes won't even settle for a pity fuck from a bisexual handmaiden because its not validating enough

( bittersweetcreature )
It is hilarious how none of them seem to be attracted to each other despite their claims to be "real women." Like, their dicks sure as hell can identify women even if their brains claim not to

( mathlover )
"Trans lesbians" are 100% heterosexual men, and remain attracted to women who fulfill male ideals of what women should. They constantly talk about being attracted to straight women and primarily to only very "femme" lesbians

And, yes, there is the also constant whining "I need a gf". Sorry guys, you're stuck with each other. lol

( IrissaIridium )
One of the funniest fucking things to come out of the delusional Trans Lesbians Are Lesbians movement is how the transbians took over the lesbian dating app Her, kicked out all the real lesbians for being TERFs and now do nothing but sit around complaining that no women ever want to hit them up. "Is this app transphobic or sumthin?" Yes, boys, your transaturated "lesbian" app is transphobic (just like reality). Shouldn't be a problem for you to date each other though, right? 🤣

( Sheva )
HER. Otherwise known as HIM

I used to have an account on HER. I had one question and answer listed and it was “what is the biggest attractor for you?” And my answer was “Two X Chromosomes”

I had in my bio “2X only” and “no dudes under any circumstances, in any way shape or form!”

And I STILL got TIMs trying to connect with me. I get offended. Like, that fucking MALE audacity to think I, a Lesbian, would want you, a greasy, hairy man, grotesque man in a dress and a wig that doesn’t quite sit right on your half balding head

[…]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Why do so many men defend gender ideology?

( BigBoats )
Unfortuntely, most of the people who push pro-TIM propaganda ARE women though (and TIMs of course). Just look at images of pro-trans demonstrations and you'll see most of them are women. It's the result of extreme female socialization, a desire to receive validation by being self-sacrificing to the extreme because it's been drilled into them that women are only valuable if they don't stand up for themselves.

I rarely see men defend pro-TIM nonsense. Most men don't even care because it doesnt affect them. And the few men who do defend it do so because it makes them look good and they have nothing to lose by defending it, probably.

( bluetinfoilhat )
I find most heterosexual men don't. Those that do generally haven't thought it out much or think it is linked to homophobia and they just knee jerkily want to see pro-gay. Unfortunately, a lot of gay men seem to support it or seem agitated when women talk about how it is negatively affecting women. Even though the trans movement is homophobic. No offense I think it is because many gay men don't value more feminine gay men, so they just don't care.

For the few heterosexual men who seem to support it a lot, I think they get off on trans women intimidating women, forcing themselves on lesbians, and taking away opportunities from women. They are personally not bold enough to go into the women's locker room, but they get off on that some men can get away with it.

( mathlover )
Because gender ideology is part of the foundation of the patriarchy maintaining male oppression of women. Men get what they want from gender ideology; they have no reason to ever object to it.

( Dogmother )
There once was a thread about TIMs and men on Reddit, and the top comment, I kid you not, was a guy saying "Straight men aren't attracted to women, they're attracted to femininity." A hundred replies or so, all defending this guy, it was insane. So pf course men are going to defend TIMs, as long as they make their dicks hard.

( drdeeisback )
Men will always support and defend other men. (Which is how you can be 100% sure they are well aware TIMs are men.)

( shewolfoffrance )
100%. You never see men lecturing other men on the need to be welcoming and inclusive towards TiFs. They're only interested in making sure that women continue to behave like service animals.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( TisTheSeason )
People have become dumber, but that's also the fault of government and scientific institutions. When they lie about obvious shit, people believe anything. Also there is no more trust in them.

( TheWombstress )
Yeah like the uterus transplants😭 TIMs believe it will happen in 10-20 years even though doctors can’t cure female reproductive illnesses (endometriosis, PCOS, ect) or female cancers.

( SapphoFinn )
To be fair, if it's going to benefit a man, then TIMs might be right and they will probably get the transplants a lot sooner than women will ever get any beneficial research to endometriosis/PCOS etc lol.

( FemmeEtal )
Trust and believe, if the trans billionaire lobby keeps going this way at all, they’ll try to make it happen. How long have breast implants been around and yet we have no cure for breast cancer. Body modification has clearly gotten out of control and isn’t about what’s healthy or realistic.

( VestalVirgin )
I am not sure if all men really would like if that happened.

Cause if it were possible to turn men into fertile women, the logical conclusion is that all the rich and powerful men would turn all the other men into women.

(Putin needs more babies to replace his killed soldiers? Why not turn all those men who have bad knees or whatnot and can therefore not be used as soldiers into women?)

Really, it would be fascinating to create a video game where you rule a country and can turn men into women and vice versa, and watch what players do with it.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Abigail Thorn/Philosophy Tube: "let's make transphobia a career-ending move."
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( Spencer_Shayy )
It IS already a career-ending move. So many women (and even some men) have been torn to shreds on social media, lost their jobs, threatened, blacklisted, stalked, and even assaulted for not kowtowing to these ugly incels. Declaring yourself "transgender" should be the career-ending move. I'm beyond sick of living under "trans" people's tyranny.

( Exempli_Gratia )
LOL. Bring it on, man. There is nothing you can do to make me bend the knee to you. Nothing you can say that will make me play pretend. No amount of lies, pressure, cancellation or threats will make me submit to you. I dare you to fucking try.

( Sheva )
You minding your own business. Approached from behind by someone with a clearly male voice. “Sorry sir what did you want?” Only to turn around and see a fully grown man in a wig and dress starting tear up. Suddenly you’ve lost your only source of income, unable to provide for your family because this MAN cried “transphobia”.

My point is. 99% of what TIMs and their TRA army call transphobia is made up in their own heads. People should NEVER be punished for the weird shit going on in other peoples heads.

Sure you may get a small handful of people who actually meant to hurt someone, but 99% of the people this clips will be innocent people.

But hey, the more dystopian bullshit they push the more women (and men) peak.

( Agrona )
Why not make men being in women’s spaces a punishable offence? Misogyny? Skinwalking?

( RusticTroglodyte )
It would be much easier to just make being a man a punishable offense, an idea I wholeheartedly support

( Tq231442 )
"Men should start off in jail and prove their way out" 😂😂😂

( BiblikliAkyeretTerf7 )
Uhh... it hasn't already been that?? Women have already lost their jobs for perceived "transphobia". What the hell more does he want?

Anyway, I think these people are dreaming if they don't see the writing on the wall that was 2023. 2024 will be, if anything, a year where transgenderism in particular and wokeness in general (and cancel culture) just becomes even more unpopular that it already has been. This will only increase in the coming years, don't they know that? They are destined to lose.

Carrots90 , asmahan & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia #wingnut ovarit.com

Skinwalker Tony's U.S. Genocide Coloring Page (a/k/a "Erin's 2024 Anti-Trans Legislative Risk Map")

( Carrots90 )
I am disappointed and angry that my state looks welcoming

We do not want to encourage this

My hate should be enough to turn it Florida Black

( asmahan )
With the "do not travel" and such I think he's channeling the green book and probably compiling the map gave him the euphoria boner he always wanted from being oppressed, by appropriating the trappings of the American black experience.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Feeling so blessed that my state is not a safe place for these perverts.

"Every day, I’ve gotten messages from worried people wondering how they are supposed to assess their risk of staying in their home state."

White and straight people, rejoice! You, too, can now get on the oppression bandwagon and pretend that the public not validating the gender you picked from someone's Tumblr blog puts you on the same level as an actual oppressed person!

"The messages range from parents of trans youth wondering if their children will be taken from them"

Oh, they should. If you "trans" your child, you are abusive, dangerous, and that child should be given to a family who will accept them for who they are.

"trans teachers wondering if their jobs will be safe in coming years."

God, I hope not. Even if the "trans" teachers aren't perverts or deranged activists, do we really want someone who believes children can be born in the wrong body, and require unethical medical interventions to "fix" them, around kids?

"Sometimes people just want to know if there is a safer state they can move to nearby."

Keep in mind, these people aren't in any actual danger. They want to know which states uphold their ideology. That's it.

"Now more than ever, it is a question that needs answering for so many transgender people facing forced medical detransition,"

OK, that is not happening. At all. Detrainsitioners are choosing to do so because they've wised up and realized this "transgender" bullshit is just that - bullshit. No doctor is forcing someone to detransition. But hey, whatever gets you hard, Tony.

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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

>Ask for the literal impossible >Whine on Reddit about how impossible things are impossible. ⚠️KEEP HIM AWAY FROM CHILDREN⚠️
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( Re-enacterf )
I have no sympathy for a male who destroys his strength, health, and fertility for a fetish. None. Suck it up there bud

And yeah, he's probably a pedophile, who just wants an excuse to be around children.

( Lipsy )
Maybe someday this dude will identify as a mermaid and will become SUPER dysphoric about not being able to breathe oxygenated water through gills. "Well, I COULD keep breathing through my lungs landgills, but wink wink, we all know why I'd be doing that." And that'd be all he wrote 🧜🏿.

( legopants )
If this was an actual woman who genuinely wanted to be a mother, like the child was the actual focused, fostering or adopting would be fine.

Instead, it's a man who fetishizes something he'll never be able to do and likely gets off when he imagined it breastfeeding

( SamanthaK )
This is how kids go missing and then end up dead.

( Carrots90 )
Dude. Definitely don’t have kids

He doesn’t want kids, which is fine,

he just wants to be pregnant….which is creepy

Carrots90 , RighteousIndignation & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

( Carrots90 )
New words for the GC dictionary, feel free to add

deGENDERate ‘non-binary’ males who feel entitled to use women’s spaces but don’t even pretend to think they are themselves women

duTIFul when TIFs cape for TIMs because TIFs have ‘male privilege’ and don’t suffer ‘transmisogyny’

feMENism libfemmery. Women centering men in their activism and labors

foresPEAK when someone is on the path to seeing how insane trans ideology is, but they are trying very hard not to see it

inFETISHtation the condition of being overrun with any type of perverted pestilence. eg “Reddit is now infetished with TIMs on all sites”

inTERFace the device or system everyone has to utilize when working with mentally stunted wokesters to prevent meltdowns, drama, and work stoppages

inTRANSigence the ability to steadfastly defend trans ideology despite facts, history, reason, common sense, etc

les-bane anyone who is a bane to lesbians. Any person who is not a woman exclusively attracted to women but claims the name, spaces, compliance, etc of lesbians

male-icious how uniquely horrible TransWomen treat women, friend or foe

masTERFul JKR dealing with TRA crybabies

overesTIMate how TIMs rate their passability/looks/personality

queersling from quisling. actual gay people who sell out the LGB for the TQIAA+++ headpats

subTERFuge undercover GC work. I’m convinced at least some of the ‘handmaidens’ are double agents. Pretending to be selling out the sistershood but doing the goddesses work. “You should definitely say that/wear that/post that” etc

suPERVise when TIMS invade lesbian spaces to look for wrongthink, and to perv

( RighteousIndignation )
Spatch-cocked when a man gets his penis turned inside out and shoved into a hole drilled thru his pelvis.

(courtesy of another ovarit user who's name I don't know).

( Spencer_Shayy )
These are hilarious! I think "les-bane" is my favorite. "Queersling" is good, too, but I prefer "Vichy Gay/Lesbian".

( Carrots90 )
I love Vichy Gay/Lesbian too!!

Someone dared to call Mr Menno that When he opposed trans lunacy. Which is rich, considering that the TQ is imho, the worst thing to happen to the LGB community in the West since HIV crisis

BlackCirce & TheKnitta #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Gender Ideology, Queer Theory, and Identity Politics are based on Post-Modernism not Liberalism

( BlackCirce )
Yeah I kinda bristle at the usage of liberal feminist to mean transfeminists or “intersectional” feminists or postmodern feminists. I’m not really sure what they should be called but they are definitely not liberal and the ones I know personally openly despise liberals. I usually say social justice (sj) feminists. It’s hard to even call them feminists because their stated goal is making everyone equal / liberated which doesn’t have anything to do specifically with women. I’ve also toyed with the idea of calling it post-feminism since if women don’t really exist, feminism is not necessary.

( TheKnitta )
That’s a good point. I’m quick to yell when people blame genderwoo on ‘the left’ that it’s not the real left, but I’m very guilty of using ‘liberal feminism’. The very term ‘liberal’ has been as mangled and perverted as the term ‘feminism’ in the current world we inhabit, and neither mean what the dictionary says.

‘Faux-feminists’ works well enough, although it’s very negative.

Sheva, legopants & dasehe #transphobia #psycho ovarit.com

Man charged with killing transgender woman following argument in Harford County

( Sheva )
And no women were harmed. That sits just fine with me.

( legopants )
Just wait till this is posted by even one tra on Twitter. Women will be blamed immediately

( Sheva )
Women will be blamed regardless of the situation or the outcome. That’s what men do, especially TiMs

( dasehe )
I've hit the point I can't be arsed about what Twitter TRAs are going to do. TIMs are just gonna TIM. I only care that it isn't weaponised in legislation against women. I'm not an optimist about that point, but that's still a fight that has to be taken on.

Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

"Gender affirming care" = going along with a child who pretends to be the opposite sex, forcing everyone in that child's life to pretend they are the opposite sex, and giving the child drugs that disrupt their healthy development so that they can better deceive others into thinking they are the opposite sex later in life so that men can violate women's boundaries (and men's sexual boundaries) without question.

How is it possible for the "science" to support this? What benefit do these kids get from this that can offset the violation of human rights they are commiting against others and the damage they are inducing in their own bodies?

How can slightly "improving" the self-esteem of one individual justify bodily harm, deception, and destruction of women's rights? Especially when that individual is a child who is still growing and maturing has other mental health issues they need to take care of, or hasn't yet gotten a grasp of their sexuality and might just be struggling with that?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

"misgendering is the exact same as being called the n-word"
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( DietCokeAddict )
Lol I’m not deciding it doesn’t offend them, I just don’t care if it does. If they’re offended by correct pronouns that’s not my problem.

( RusticTroglodyte )
Great point. When ppl are offended by literal reality, who gives a shit about sparing their feelings?

( Spencer_Shayy )
See, that's the thing. When bigotry becomes subjective, it means nothing. That's why this creepy perverted man has the confidence to say that calling him by his birth name is akin to a racial slur.

( TheKnitta )
Get Mr I’m The Biggest Victim over here. Racism, apartheid? Nothing compared to what he’s been through trying to get people not to laugh at him for wearing frilly knickers.

Truly stunning and brave (and absolutely tone deaf).

( pennygadget )
"Martin Luther King Jr thought he had it rough! But MY oppression is even worse! My grandmother still calls me 'Steven' and Twitter trolls call me 'dude' every day!! Its worse than a thousand Holocausts!!!" 😭

( pennygadget )
Once again, these scrotes appropriate the struggles of people who are ACTUALLY oppressed in order to prop up their bullshit fantasy life.

Black Civil Rights leaders never asked the rest of us to swallow lies. Calling a man "Steve" instead of his chosen name of "Violet VonGlittercunt" is not the same as calling a Black person the n-word. These men are so entitled because current leftist spaces coddle this nonsense

songoftheworms & Ava #transphobia ovarit.com

Yeah, and no need to define “liberty” either. Liberty can include shackles, what even are words, now shut up
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( songoftheworms )
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More like, we're passionately telling you that in order for "women" to have liberation, "women" needs to first be defined. And defining women in terms of a discrete biological group is not only more accurate in terms of observable reality and the almighty lived experience, but also in pinpointing the axis by which our subjugation is enacted: Sex is why; gender is how. Who benefits by denying sex and embracing gender? Not women.

How often do you hear a newly minted "trans woman" talking about how he's 100% totally a woman in every way [mumble] except for, like, having been sexualised basically from birth, experiencing female puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, sex-based violence, lower lifetime wages... you know, all the insignificant shit that's naturally dwarfed by the fact that he really likes the colour pink? Who benefits from the view of "women" as artifice, frivolity and aesthetic, rather than the female mammals we very simply are? Not women.

Better to acknowledge the primacy of our biology than our embrace or rejection of odious misogynist stereotypes, I think, given that we aren't oppressed for being innately or irrepressibly "feminine," but for being quite inescapably (yes, even if we cut off our tits and root out our reproductive organs and change our name to Chad - especially then) female. Or is MacKinnon suggesting that identifying out of being oppressed is women's best hope for "producing liberation"?

( Ava )
She's literally acknowledging that the oppressors define women as a discrete biological group. Doesn't she think it's important to have a word for the group that's being oppressed? 🤨

And then her completely misrepresenting that Simone de Beauvoir quote is the cherry on top. Simone de Beauvoir was describing female socialization, which only happens...to females.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( keylime )
Sorry not sorry at all, but this is exactly why I refuse to befriend trans or anyone who is close with TiMs/TiFs. I would rather be completely isolated and friendless than have trans or handmaiden friends. They are too mentally ill, unstable, and untrustworthy. For such a small percentage of the general population, a huge percentage within their own have shown themselves to be violent, sadistic, psychopathic killers. This mentally ill demon of a woman did not just kill Nandhini, but deliberately planned to torture her and took pleasure in viewing her suffering. She should be condemned to a lake of fire.

However, I do not blame Nandhini (may her beautiful soul rest in peace) one bit for this tragic outcome. She is a victim of the brainwashing that so many women undergo. "Be nice to trans people! They are harmless and just want to live their authentic selves in peace!" NO. I will advocate for women to NOT be nice to these deranged people. Women are so often taught to ignore their gut instinct in favor of being nice and not hurting people's feelings. We must grey rock, isolate these people, and refuse to be nice and friendly with them, lest more women suffer the same fate.

( GreenBottle )
Congrats TIF, you did the most male thing imaginable, murdered and tortured a woman for saying no. Makes me wonder if she's on testosterone.

( Mignonette )
My thoughts exactly. She'll never be a man but unfortunately succeeded at acting like one when she refused to take no for an answer. I hope she's dealt with accordingly. Her poor victim must have suffered horrifically.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Why do TIFs always mimic the worst traits of men and never ones that are better to "pass"?

Men suck, yes, but they also have a history of encouraging things like chivalry, honor, intellectualism, etc. in each other. Where are the TIFs like that? Why are they always incredibly misogynistic and violent?

( momofreyrella )
Oh definitely

( GreenBottle )
Oh I know she is. Just wanted to point it out. I know technically these TIFs are women and "belong" in female sexed spaces but tbh I don't want them either if testosterone makes them as depraved and degenerate as the average scrote. The moment they take testosterone they should be banned from female sports obviously because that's doping, but idk if they belong in my locker room either.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: what's more important trans issues or abortion?

( Thelnebriati )
The trans issue is more important to women's rights. Laws depend on accurate definitions.

Being able to define ourselves as members of a recognised class is fundamental to all of our other legal rights.

( pennygadget )
Agreed. What's the point of keeping abortion legal if we lose every other sex based right? The current progressive/democrat platform seems to be: "We might be setting women and girls up to be raped in bathrooms, homeless shelters, prison cells, etc. But at least we'll graciously allow them to get abortions when those rapes get them pregnant! We're feminists!!"

Also, if the democrats remain slaves to gender ideology, I don't trust them not to outlaw abortion one day simply because Dylan Mulvaney marched into the White House and screeched, "ABORTION IS TRANSPHOBIC BECAUSE I CAN'T HAVE ONE!! MAKE IT GO AWAY, JOE BIDEN!!!"

( MiMi2013 )
Trans issues make women "non people" ; abortion, while important, is not as vital. How many times a day does a woman need to shit or piss or adjust her clothing-? How many times a day does she need to get an abortion-? I fear trans beliefs even more than anti choice shibboleths.

( Persimmon64 )
Trans ideology is a bigger priority for me. With abortion, only women and girls who are fertile and of childbearing age who do not want children and would choose to have an abortion are affected. There are other options such as adoption, and most states make concessions for abortions due to health complications. Unless I'm raped, I at least have control of the situation in whether I choose to use birth control or not or choose to have sex or not, knowing it could result in a pregnancy.

"Trans ideology" affects every single woman and girl on the planet, from the age of 1 to 90. It affects gay and autistic children, boys and girls, who are being medically abused. It affects families that are being torn apart. Women no longer have any protection in the law. Under trans ideology, women lose the ability to even recognize themselves apart from men. How can we fight for any women's issues, including abortion, when we can't even recognize who women are?

various commenters #transphobia twitter.com

( @doughnutnaps )
What the fuck is this @Target ?!?!
#TransWomenAreConMen #NoSuchThingAsTrans
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( @doughnutnaps )
He’s everywhere! What the fuck @Target ?!
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( @doughnutnaps )
Another one…and you can tell they edited the pic so his shoulders aren’t so pronounced or his collarbone. And the one where you can see his hands you can tell they did A LOT to make them “dainty” looking. But they can’t do a thing with that handsome squidward jaw.
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( @Pterfodact86502 )
Who in the marketing department thinks women will run out and buy that lingerie modeled by a man? Really? This is regressive, not progressive.

#GoWokeGoBroke #Target

( @NoGenderBenderz )
Pls someone draw a penis

( @justsadie91 )
I saw this in my target and it pissed me off.

( @chuntasull )
I know, it's disgusting. Shame on anyone near a Target.

( @Festivalkyrie )
I didn't know that Michelle Obama had a younger brother. 😆

( @rabbitcover )
Trans propaganda is so effing creepy! I do not want to see this at Target.

( @mandurahmum )
Please don't tell me they allow men to try on women's panties or swimsuits. Just yuck

( @onedaymode )
Stopped going to Target a couple years ago when their sick practices were exposed. That company should be held legally liable for every woman assaulted by a man in a dress.

( @tailrotor )
The thing is...why are the advertisers not honest. The male model is posing bent forward so his penis doesn't bulge through the dress material. Let it, then the public can see EXACTLY what the advert is saying! And they won't like it!

( @Elizabe20613711 )
I saw this as well about a month ago. I find this offensive. Women have fought so hard in this country to exist. Men have no place taking a woman’s space. This is clearly just a man in a dress. I knew women, my great grandmothers who in their life time were not allowed to vote but eventually fought for and won their right to vote. It’s those women who are turning in their graves as male supremacy is making a comeback uglier than ever.

( @avril_britten )
just because
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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Dylan Mulvaney gets his passport marked as 'female'. Takes to social media to smugly gloat

( Spencer_Shayy )
It's amazing how "trans" people can break the law and not suffer consequences for it.

Falsify federal documents? $5,000 fine or jailed for 5 years.

Dope up on drugs while playing sports? Suspension for two years.

Do any of that when you say you're "trans"? Not only are you allowed to get away with it, you're applauded for it.

What's the word for being able to get away with things others can't? Starts with a p...

( Carrots90 )
Very good point

Add voyeurism and exhibitionism to that list

( IrissaIridium )
That video. 🤣 Dylan believes that words are magical and can transmute his body's small gamete- producing reproductive pathway and all the primary and secondary sex characteristics that come along with that. 😂 In fact, he's so confident that the magical letter in his passport has made him a woman that he doesn't even worry about showing up on cam with full five o'clock shadow anymore.

Here are some more "magical" words for you, Dylan:

🎶🪄 Salaca doo 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 La menthicka boo 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 La bibbidi-bobbidi-boo 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 Put 'em together 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 And what have you got? 🧚‍♂️

🎶🪄 Still a bibbidi-bobbidi-tool. 🍆😂

( Women1st )
I’m surprised he didn’t throw a bit and demand it say “girl.” I saw the Eloise skit he did. WTF? He acts like a pedo.

( DaddysLittlePickMe )
Spicy take time: I legit do not trust homosexual males, even the ones who aren't TiMs who call themselves 'girls'. Even if they're doing so uNiRoNiCaLlY. Bonus points if they're obsessed with girlish crap like care bears and male popstars obviously targeted towards tweens. It's giving autopedophilia. I have NEVER seen a lesbian woman who calls herself a boy and is obsessed with pokemon and roblox

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender Debate: Phi Mu Sorority Punishing Alumni Who Believe Women Are Women

( Women1st )
Welcome to the new arm of the TRAs seeking to silence women, sororities. This is nuts, no pun intended. Why do we have sororities and a Supreme Court judge, and female politicians all claiming being a woman is an identity??? Wtf?

( MiMi2013 )
Because they're evil. PERIOD. Men and women who identify with men are weaponizing trans-shit against the 99% , to let the MEN of the 99% know they're too weak, too powerless, to protect their wives and daughters (the women who are actually being assaulted by these monsters are an afterthought). This is strictly political, and it's a group of people who think they're elite enjoying grinding the faces of everyone else into the dirt, for some ultimate motive of which we can only guess at this point.

( Iggyana )

That night, five Phi Mus were dismissed from membership. Another was put on probation and required to attend diversity, equity, and inclusion training; take the Harvard Implicit Bias Test; listen to certain podcast episodes for “reeducation,” and then write a reflection paper. After completing these tasks, the woman is still at risk of having her membership taken away.

I hope the 6th woman tells them to shower their membership up their arses. They're trying to humiliate her.

( SpicyPumpkin )
The word "reeducation" leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I can't see it meaning anything other than brainwashing.

( Vasilisa )
Chairman Mao for the win 😬

( Novemberinthechair )
Yep. Maoist Communist China....Red Guard stuff.

Spencer_Shayy & keylime #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Looking to share some stories here with peoples encounters with trans identified people

( Spencer_Shayy )
I'm very fortunate in that my personal experiences with "trans" people are limited. We have two "transwomen" at work who I do my best to avoid, as they're both extremely creepy. One is a young man, a skinny little white boy who seemed completely normal up until he announced he's "transitioning" and my boss began fawning over him and giving him special treatment. I'm still so embarrassed for her. I liked him before, but now I can't stand the little pervert, and I HATE being near him. To say these guys make me uncomfortable is a massive understatement - they're the embodiment of everything evil in this world. The second one is a middle-aged man who dresses like a grandma and speaks in a falsetto that sets off my fight or flight instinct. I don't see him nearly as much, thank god.

Every "transman" I've had the misfortune of knowing was an awkward fujoshi obsessed with anime and especially yaoi. They were so fucking embarrassing. I'll never get over one who was my friend (and I had a lot of respect for her until she declared herself "trans") changing her name to the one she gave her Hetalia OC, who was, of course, an anime boy she paired with another anime boy. Never understood how someone could be OK with being that cringey.

One of my exes is a "transman" now. She was a little bit fujoshi, but she was sexually assaulted in the past, and I felt bad for her. I figured her low self-esteem and body issues stemmed from that. Until one day she dropped me because I wouldn't be in a polyamorous relationship. Now, I feel nothing.

( keylime )
I'm so grateful that I've never had to work with a TiM or TiF. That sounds like a special kind of hell. TRAs sure, but the kind where this topic seldom comes up. In California, employees have to take a mandatory sexual harassment training course that outlines "respecting gender identity" and implies that not being a doormat "socially accommodating" to these clowns is included under the umbrella of workplace harassment. I guess I'd get fired real quick then.

I have had no significant relationships with TiPs. I've seen them at metal shows and they are always dressed in fetish-like clothing and have a really pungent, funky smell to them. Also the bad hair as you mentioned is definitely another common trait.

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Spencer_Shayy & Riothamus #transphobia ovarit.com

450 Kappa Sorority Sisters Side With UW Women Against Transgender Member | Your Wyoming News Source

( Spencer_Shayy )
Wow, 450 women supporting their appeal, and WOLF too! I hope some real progress is finally made. Laramie and UW are such shit holes, but I feel for these women. They don't deserve this. No woman deserves to be stuck with a "transwoman" - not even the worst of handmaidens.

I like that last quote, because it's literally what "trans" people and their allies are demanding all women do - pretend that being female means nothing.

I'll say this over and over until the day I fucking die. It's NOT a coincidence that suddenly "woman" now means nothing after women were finally being heard and having our experiences represented and vocalized online and in media.

"Transgender" is patriarchal backlash to women's rights and gay rights. Nothing more.

( Riothamus )

I'll say this over and over until the day I fucking die. It's NOT a coincidence that suddenly "woman" now means nothing after women were finally being heard and having our experiences represented and vocalized online and in media

Just look at the BlackLivesMatter 2020 blowup. In late May black women came to the forefront of the movement and within days #BlackTransLivesMatter took over and dominated the messaging with all sorts of legacy media puff pieces. BLM failed to achieve anything of note beyond rioting after that.

There's no God damned way that wasn't divisive billionaire Astroturfing.

Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

Teachers saying they'd rather be fired than tell parents their children think they're trans should be sacked | The Sun (Julie Bindel)
These teachers really should. It's so creepy how cult-like these fake activist teachers are. Their obsession with "trans kids" is disturbing.

If you believe a child can be born in the wrong body, you aren't qualified to be a teacher. I don't care how experienced or educated you are.

What's worse is these freaks will pretend it's the same thing as outing a homosexual child... while actively encouraging said homosexual children to "transition".

The more I think of these self-proclaimed "educators" who push trans ideology onto students and families, the more disgusted by their blatant evil I become.

It is so OFFENSE to compare a child who's been brainwashed to believe he or she is "trans" to children born with an innate sexual orientation that's been persecuted and demonized for all of time. We are NOT the same.

"The teachers saying they would rather be fired than tell parents their children are presenting as the opposite sex at school consider themselves martyrs. But they are causing harm and should be sacked."

Normally, I hesitate about demanding someone be fired for their beliefs, as I think we all have a right to our own opinions, even if others don't like them, and I know how easily and quickly these punishments open the door for abuse, but in this case, the harm that trans activists are doing to so many people is too much to ignore. These teachers are a genuine danger to children. It'd be one thing if these pseudo religious lunatics just believed in the concept of "gender identity", but they don't. They always have to take it further. They force their ideology on kids, parents, and the rest of society, and ultimately lead some of those kids to cruel, unnecessary physical sterilization and mutilation.

All because THESE TEACHERS couldn't accept a child who didn't conform to rigid gender stereotypes.

100%. Like all other fascists, they seem to believe their evil is for the good of all.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: "White women" and "cis women" being used interchangeably

( BlackCirce )
Their reasoning:

White people decided black people are more masculine than white people.

Thus black women are more masculine than white women.

Black women then, are a type of man because masculinity is a male trait.

If some women (black ones) are men, the reverse must also be true, some men are women.

For black women (men) to be recognized as women, we have to also recognize trans women (men) as women. That’s called intersectional feminism.

Addendum: women who disagree with this reasoning are white supremacists.

( hard_headed_woman )
This really is their logic.

"Well, if you can let black women into your spaces, then you can let transwomen in, too!"

( pennygadget )
And they never do this with other races. They never say, "if you let in a Japanese woman, you have to let in trans-women, too!". This trans movement is blatantly anti-Black

( HalfMentalAlchemist )
Half of TIMs want to be Japanese girls.

( ALoudMeow )
HALF? More like 99.99%

( HalfMentalAlchemist )
The other half want to be their wife or mum.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
OMG I have seen this argument soo many times on reddit, that trans women are just a "type" of women, like black women, or red-haired women.

( proudcatlady )
This makes sense to them because all of those things are porn categories

( labelle )
Personally, I haven't noticed this. I have seen many TIMs and TRA allies referring to black women as cis black women, but I do agree that it is less and less. I actually think this is happening because black women are constantly refusing to be described as cis. You saw this during the Jess hilarious situation, and even TS madison (a TIM) promised to no longer use cis when describing women or around women.

I think more white women need to boldly reject this, instead I see a lot of them adopting this ideology. CIS is a slur.

( pegasusknight )
I know this is old news, but TIMs hate women. More than frat boys. They use “cis” and “white” (and their trans identity) as a shield to say what they really think about women.

( Re-enacterf )
They just want to hate women and tell us to shut up, and this is their in.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

white people you cannot be trans
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( PresumedWoman )
God i wish this was real. I wish it would be considered bigoted in leftist spaces for white people to identify as trans. We could shut this whole site down and go home

( Spencer_Shayy )
Right? We'd see a serious reduction in "trans" people if white people weren't allowed to say they were "trans" 😂

( Clarus )
At this rate this would probably be a real thing eventually. There's so much in-fighting in the trans-community over types of stuff like this already.

( ElectricBlue )
Oh wow, please can someone spread this? They'd all go into meltdown, it would be hilarious.

Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

The myth of the ‘trans brain’ - spiked

There's nothing "cruel" about calling a bloke in a wig a bloke in a wig, let's get that out there right now. I'm tired of this "reminding "trans" people of reality hurts their feelings!" Crap even from those who are against gender ideology. I dont give a single fucking shit if someone who denies reality is upset by reality. I don't. And nobody else should care either.

"It's not as if political candidates have to undergo brain scans - a fact for which the Green Party should be eternally grateful."

LMAO

It's so interesting to me that self-proclaimed advocates for women push the same old misogynistic pseudoscience, just with different packaging!

You're not a women's advocate if you believe in "gender identity". Period. No debate. The end.

I like the breakdown of the study "trans" people and their allies are always touting. The fact that the researchers were incredibly biased and it was influencing their work, the blatant homophobia of ignoring the fact that these "transsexuals" were clearly homosexuals when they brought their same sex partners to the clinic, not controlling for sexual orientation OR the long term effects of estrogen on a male body... it's all such bad science.

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The Swedish assholes also didn't control for sexuality! They blew make pheromones over the "transwomen's" faces and some part of their brain lit up - they can't be homosexual and attracted to men like most women are, no, somehow, this means they're women inside men's bodies!

This blatant homophobia was used at Tavistock in 1997. It's the reason behind the Dutch protocol. It's the reason gay and gender non conforming kids are now being sterilized and mutilated in the name of "gender affirming care". The researchers even ADMIT (behind closed doors and only to medical experts) that the study is essentially meaningless and has never been replicated, but they'll still push it in public and rave that it's "proof" that "transgender" is real.

"TRANSGENDER" IS HOMOPHOBIA!

THIS is why there's no good intentions behind gender ideology. THIS is why there's no such thing as a good "trans" person. THIS is why nobody who supports the idea of "gender identity" is moral or decent.

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notsofreshfeeling, BondiBlue & BlackCirce #transphobia #enbyphobia ovarit.com

Why Montana’s Two-Spirit people are challenging a state law that defines sex as binary

( notsofreshfeeling )
Holy fuck just wear whatever clothes and stop lying about your sex. It is not that hard. This is not oppression. Grow up.

( BondiBlue )
The woke version of the Indiana Pi Bill, where elected officials attempted to redefine the value of pi by legislative fiat. In this case attempting to redefine 2 as infinity in the letter of the law, because spirit animals or some such.

I'm sorry, but no. You can call yourself whatever you want, but don't get to mandate that everyone else is required to live under the auspices of your beliefs. And it is not "white supremacism" to say that. Whatever happened to "trust the science"?

( BlackCirce )
“Two-spirit,” in the same sense as transgender or transsexual cannot exist without binary sex. Third, fourth, fifth, sixth genders are created by humans for people who don’t fit the gender role that is assigned to their sex.

The project to expand “gender” always devolves into categorizing a rainbow of different human personalities and aesthetic and occupational preferences. Humans are one of, if not the, most behaviorally adaptive species. We change what behavior we do frequently, even generation to generation. Gender roles, gendered division of labor, aesthetics, those can and do change. What doesn’t change are sex roles: which sex ejaculates and which sex gestates and gives birth and breastfeeds. Don’t people get tired of playing stupid like this?

BondiBlue, sylviasmushrooms & IrissaIridium #transphobia ovarit.com

Results from the force-teaming of the TQ with LGB.
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( BondiBlue )
It also obfuscates how TQ+ are homophobic oppressors. Lesbians face oppression from TIMs calling them "eliminationist Nazis" because they're repulsed by AGP gurldicks. T is medicalizing away the gay, which is why Iran is one of the most "trans-friendly" and homophobic places in the world. And then there's whatever else ends up in the grab bag of "Q+++++" that force-teams normal LGB with diaper fetishists and zoophiles and pedos and kink and polycules and necrophiles and etc. etc. etc. all under the banner of "queer".

( sylviasmushrooms )
I’m pissed off. On Facebook a post from the ACLU popped up today whinging about “LGBTQ+ trans kids” being outed by their schools. Predictably the comments section was full of live-and-let-live types who do not know what that means, and little else.

This conflation has people concerned that gay kids (and the really really gay kids, ie the trans ones) are getting beaten at home by their homophobic parents. In actuality the trans issue is something completely different; mostly straight and bi kids are being gently discouraged by their parents into transitioning when it could fuck up their whole lives, and many schools are actively fighting this outcome by letting the kids effectively diagnose themselves and choose their treatment. And yes, socially transitioning counts. The lovebombing and affirmation it results in is NOT “harmless.” It shows kids that this is how to stick it to their parents and rebel, while gaining the acceptance of their ingroup, only instead of a stupid haircut or unflattering jeans with chains on them or something, it’s medicalization and a new pseudo-religion that the government condones and upholds.

( IrissaIridium )
It also masks the fact that many people who claim a trans identity are dealing with internalized homophobia and homophobic pressures from their families or communities. They're transitioning in a desperate attempt to trans the gay away. In some cases, it should be LGBGay-BashedByTheMedicalEstablishment.

IrissaIridium #transphobia ovarit.com

(On: Literally nothing this dude says is true or rational)
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This.

I'm entirely convinced that the "I'm so smol and vulnerable to abuse by the big mean terves" routine is part of their AGP larp. They see women expressing their natural, legitimate and historically born-out concern for their own safety and this translates into another way to skinwalk authentic women in their minds. "I'm so smol and vulnerable because am reel wommin and reel wommins is scared for safety UwU pwease u protec me from scawy phreatening terves 😟" Until a 70-year-old woman threatens their euphoria boner by merely hearing the truth that they're men, the mask drops and and it's all "HULK MAD! HULK SMASH! DIE CIS SCUM! FUCK TERFS! 💥👊💥" So smol and scared.

AGPs are so degenerate in their skinwalking they probably touch themselves while imagining being the real women who have been victims of physical violence by TRAs. Vicious perverts.

mathlover & RisingUp #transphobia ovarit.com

Gee, I can’t imagine how it must feel to have your words appropriated by people to whom they don’t apply…

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( mathlover )
Every "trans" I've ever come across who claims they are "intersex" - aren't. When they describe their symptoms, physical findings, age at diagnosis, how they were diagnosed, and what effects they currently have, it is not consistent with any intersex condition they claim.

It's almost always a male (occasionally a female) who is trying to make a case that they are "really intersex" and it somehow has to do with them being the opposite sex.

( RisingUp )
100% fair and valid point but I would bet money that is actually a TIM LARPing as 'intersex' and getting his violation thrills from the audacity.

Reasons: people with real DSDs don't usually describe themselves as 'intersex'; the OP is hanging out on r/trans; there are 1000x more pervert LARPers than actual people with DSDs; and this smells similar to those maximal-projection posts where TIMs complain about stuff like men perving on them in the ladies' changing rooms.

shewolfoffrance, FeminismIs4Women & TheKnitta #transphobia ovarit.com

women in porn are considered more “worthwhile” than men
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( shewolfoffrance )

they need guidance, help

I completely agree. And I propose that all young men considering "going girl" be sent to a lockdown facility for at least one year where they are cut off from internet access, video games, and porn (needless to say). Every day, they will be forced to complete moderate exercise, eat nutritious meals, and study a skilled trade. They will be taught basic life skills, such cooking and cleaning. Daily exposure to sunlight and fresh air is mandatory. If, at the end of one year, they still wish to transition, their balls will be cut off.

( FeminismIs4Women )
Except for the last part, this sounds like a high end service. Like rehab for losers.

( shewolfoffrance )
There's a cheaper service, but it's just hard labor.

They still get their balls cut off if they choose TiMfoolery.

( TheKnitta )
Of course they’re jealous of the women in porn. They only see them as fuckholes and the resultant orgasm. That’s why they trans and try to be those women, then get angry when actual women won’t play along with their fantasy.

It’s bullshit that’s making those men unhappy. Bullshit of their own making. Stop living online and watching porn 24/7 and you’ll be happier. Selfish assholes.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Some of the questions sent to the NB male invited to the École Polytechnique remembrance
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( Kaboodle )
The question I would add, “how does the psychopathy of trans-identified males compare with the psychopathy of incel males who commit femicide?

( OneStarWolf )
I’m imagining a Venn diagram that overlaps in an almost perfect circle. That incel shooter would almost definitely identify as trans today if he could.

( Carrots90 )
When the murderous doucheLepine came in to ‘kill feminists’ the women explained they weren’t feminists

He killed them anyway

Sounds like they couldn’t identify out of violence against women and girls

Here are some of my questions for the gentleman speaking as a laydeee

-do you think he would have killed the man who said he wasn’t a man or the woman who said she wasn’t a woman?

-would it have been violence for the DoucheLepine to NOT attack a man wearing nail polish?

-if it was ‘gender’ based violence, and you can’t tell someone’s gender by looking at them, how did he know who to kill?

-if sex isn’t real, how did he happen to only kill the AFABs?

-why the fvck are you here? Why are you acting as anything other than a quiet supporter who is quiet and no talking and keeps his male mouth?

( NastasyaFillipovna )
So the event was to mourn women who died, and the best keynote speaker they could find was a male? WTF is wrong with Canadian Academia?

( DJKTRON )
"Would you rather (a) be shot and killed in a femicide incel terrorist attack, as that would be gender affirming, or (b) have your life spared because clearly you are a man?"

LOL at the balding question.

The organizers of this event are the real villains though. What on earth were they thinking?! A complete insult to the memories and families of the murdered women.

legopants #transphobia ovarit.com

We should start using the term "trans privilege" or at least way more often
Not only because it'll infuriate the extremists on the left and TRAs, but because it's true for TiMs. I know a lot is male privilege blended in too but adding a trans identity seems to get you more in certain situations.

Trans privilege is having your concerns about healthcare in America listened to by politicians and or professionals.

Trans privilege is being able to go online without seeing hatred in the form of jokes or memes or comments because it'll be immediately deleted or full of support in the replies.

Trans privilege is getting people banned for making you uncomfortable when misogynistic, racist, or homophobic people being reported stay.

Trans privilege is people agreeing the way you're fetishized in porn is disgusting and not right.

Trans privilege is having a double mastectomy covered by insurance when women with documented pain and discomfort can't get even reduction, or when women have to raise funds somehow to remove the literal cancer from her breast by mastectomy.

Trans privilege is being able to decide how people should think about you and view you when nobody in the world can.

Trans privilege is getting subreddits deleted from existence because you don't like it when rape subs and other abusive shit exists.

Trans privilege is avoiding jail time or getting a lesser punishment after a crime.

Trans privilege is being allowed to send violent rape and death threats to women and have it be justified by all.

Trans privilege is being able to claim a genocide despite literally nobody dying for their identity when the War on Women or femicide is deemed not happening or not important.

Trans privilege is deciding you're allowed in any group you want to be in regardless of if it's for something specific that you're not.

Trans privilege is being invited to speak to the president or interviewed by news stations about your "human rights" or whatever.

Trans privilege is getting away with gaslighting and abusing everyone you ever meet.

Trans privilege is the police taking you seriously when you say you feel unsafe because of someone and investigating them.

Trans privilege is demanding someone find you attractive and date you with people agreeing.

Trans privilege is being sympathized with when you shoot up an elementary school.

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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: I'm tired of being asked to "show compassion" to AGPs

( Spencer_Shayy )
PREACH. I have NO compassion for autogynephiles/transwomen/whatever you want to call them. NONE. The world would be a better place WITHOUT them.

( GenderHeretic )

The world would be a better place WITHOUT them.

Objective fact.

( drdeeisback )
'My compassion for AGPs ends when they start asking me to ignore that they're male - excuse me, when they ask me to pretend to ignore that they're male.' It's been made so clear that the last thing they want is to actually be considered female and treated as such. No female person could possibly get away with the shit they pull; they're well aware that it's only male privilege that allows them to be utter failures and still win beauty contests, get the praise, attention and money otherwise reserved for actually skilled, talented and educated women, etc. etc.

( mathlover )
A group invades your country and proceeds to colonize it. They have their own country and it is way bigger and more privileged than yours. But they invade and take over yours. They rape the women who won't submit. They take your country's resources for their own use. They are fundamentally biologically different in ways that will mean they can never belong in your country, but they say they are the same as you. They crush any attempts at rebellion. They become increasingly threatening, and even violent. They enslave your people when possible. It gets worse and worse as the occupation of your country continues.

You do not feel compassion for such an enemy. Which is what they are. You fight them in every way you can.

BlackCirce #transphobia ovarit.com

TERF isn’t a slur because something something nazis
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operating out of seething hatred for a minority.

Men aren’t a power minority. They aren’t even a minority among the trans population, the heterosexual male portion outnumbers and is wealthier and more powerful than the female and gay male trans population. Heterosexual males, including the ones who wear dresses, are the power majority.

Yes I absolutely want men excluded from specific spaces where women get undressed and are vulnerable. These spaces (public restroooms, prisons, shelters and hospital wards) are also where women who are the most marginalized (poor, elderly, disabled) in society are frequently found. Those spaces need to be sex segregated for dignity, privacy and safety, because men are larger, stronger, more aggressive and sexually motivated towards women. This doesn’t mean men who identify as trans should die or shouldn’t have access to restrooms or shelters. They need to use ones that are not for women and respect women’s boundaries. But that’s the rub isn’t it? That no.

Men demanding access to women’s private, vulnerable spaces (NOT spaces of power like boardrooms and university offices that men would like to be male only) is an act of aggression and dominance. It is not the action of a power minority demanding equal access to spaces of power and privilege. It’s the master demanding to be “included” in the slaves quarters (and we all know what happened there).

All leftists know exactly what I am talking about but they have been taken over completely by deranged levels of male supremacy which starts with their porn obsession and indoctrination of hatred towards women and lesbians especially. How can you look at your lesbian friends and neighbors and comrades and say “you’re a fascist because you won’t suck dick”… how is that not a betrayal of every principle of equality, equality, liberty, liberation, solidarity, community? It’s rapist ethics, pure and simple.

pretending to be oppressed minorities

In every accusation an admission of guilt.

MagnificentMildew #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Okay, this is how religious conservatives really ARE unhelpful in fighting transgenderism

TRAs and religious fundamentalists are basically the same people. They both follow a faith based belief system with magical elements (belief in souls vs belief in "gender identity" which is basically just a soul). They both try to censor science (TRAs try to censor sexual dimorphism, fundies try to censor the Theory of Evolution). They both try to force their ideology on the general populace in the name of their "rights" (traaanz rites vs muh religeous freehdom). They both think GNC people are a problem to be solved (changing your personality to match your sex vs changing your sex to match your personality). ...They're literally the same. There's a reason some Muslim countries use transition to "cure" homosexuality.

Unicorn #transphobia ovarit.com

Green Party split from group at centre of trans row
Mass consumption is like one of the core parts of transgenderism. How is a party that claims to be "green" for it?

Transgenderism is literally like, throw out your wardrobe and buy all new clothes that conform to the gender stereotypes of the opposite sex (or some random mishmash of clothes if one is "nonbinary"), buy binders, buy packers, buy silicone chests, buy makeup, buy wigs, buy puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, which produce more plastic waste from all their packaging, buy cosmetic surgeries, which fill one up with plastic and there is so many "one time use" plastics involved in surgeries to keep things sterile.

It doesn't make sense to me.