@Taln_Reich

Syndaballet #transphobia ovarit.com

"Big Brother" "Star" reports J.K. Rowling for "thoughtcrime"
So I just finished reading Orwell's 1984 and the irony can't be lost that a "Big Brother" "Star" has reported J.K. Rowling to the Thought Police.

So in the book, the children of the Party undergo "elaborate mental training" and in "Newspeak" terms, this involves "crimestop, blackwhite, and doublethink." Crimestop is where one realizes one is thinking a thoughtcrime and must censor oneself immediately.

The first and simplest stage in the discipline, which can be taught even to young children, is called, in Newspeak, crimestop. Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought.

If you've ever been an active member in leftist spaces, you know exactly what this feels like. To even entertain the idea that a TiM shouldn't be in some women's sports for example would be a heresy.

Then blackwhite, which is literally training onself to believe that black is white or 2 and 2 make 5, if that's what the Party says to believe.

Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink.

And honestly to believe a man can be a woman, to know a man can be a woman, and stopping yourself from believing or ever saying otherwise, has quite clearly been warned against in one of the most prescient dystopian novels to have been written.

I do recommend reading 1984 by George Orwell. I will note that the book can be extremely misogynistic at times, but I think it makes sense in a book where everyone is literally trained to be, as the book describes, stupid and hateful.

Big Brother is Watching. Let's see what the Thought Police verdict against J.K. Rowling brings. If the result is dystopic, I believe we need to react accordingly.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Trump wasn’t the candidate who made women feel bullied and repulsed

( Women1st )
Women are not a single issue. Expecting women to vote while continuing to dangle the abortion carrot is garbage. Too many women clued in that they will not codify rights into law. We were very clearly told that our rights to define ourselves, have single sex spaces, have women’s sports, and protect women’s prisons meant nothing. We were TERF bigots to complain about the erosion of women’s rights.

( NoName )
I remember a non USA resident on this forum asking prior to the election what Harris could actually do about abortion if she won. I remember commenting that Harris couldn't do anything without a majority in both houses. Seriously though, this issue should never have been left swinging in the wind for fifty years on the basis of Roe vs Wade. Some years back I remember hearing why RBG never liked abortion being hinged on Roe vs Wade.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
The forgot women have lives outside of you know, getting pregnant and having abortions on a daily basis.

Republicans did face the music during mid terms after Roe, but states stepped in. The stories about miscarriages are coming out rn are mostly medical negligence and poor interpretation of law, rather than being abortion ban.

But TiM infestation into the daily life is horrible

( Amareldys )
Are most women dealing with TIMs in their daily life?

( sanitycheck )
Might not be a great idea to ask that on this forum where many women here have dealt with tims and tifs and have children being taught this in school and family members being indoctrinated into medical self harm. Women in prison are dealing with tims in their daily life. Not having free speech to say men are men is an incursion into one's daily life. Worrying youll be fired or lose your career for stating the truth is something i'm dealing with in my daily life.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender-rights advocates say the election of Trump and his allies marks a major setback

( hard_headed_woman )
Well, at least we have one thing to celebrate!

( mathlover )
Let's hope it's a permanent setback.

( Mandy )
So sad. No special rights for the transgenders. Now they'll just have to make do with having the same rights as everyone else. Much unfair, very oppression.

( GenXer )
They're completely out of touch with reality. And, finally, it's being noticed by the greater population.

( Lillith )
I wish Trump would go after trans intrusions as hard as he went after women's choice.

( shewolfoffrance )
I remember when he banned them from serving in the military. At the time, I was a good liberal, but in retrospect it's perfectly sensible to ban men and women who will be lifelong medical patients, and, more often than not, are extremely emotionally unstable.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Welcome back, queen
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( Calamity )
The breather was nice, but my itch to scroll got the better of me halfway through,

It's nice to be back,

Watching the T blow smoke up their asses about consequences that will never come has been amusing.

There's something sickly bitter and entertaining to me, watching the demographics least likely to be impacted (heterosexual males & those engaging with them) from their own none-sensical bullshittery (sorry, the privilege to be in a space not wanting you there, and taking man-made pharmaceuticals to appease a subjective and socialized concept - is not your 'right').

Crying and moaning about their upcoming 'genocide' on their materialistic, lecherous and leeching demands, insane.

Meanwhile, actual women are losing bodily autonomy.

Clown world,

( RappaccinisDaughter )
Is it wrong that I ran to the MtF subreddit to see the tears after Trump was reelected?

( Turtlefuzz )
I did the same, it was so delicious 😈

( Jinera )
omg gyns it was ROUGH without any sanity from this website. Jesus what a long two weeks

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Is it weird that I used automation software to alert me when this site would be back online ?

( Turtlefuzz )
No lmao. I just checked habitually the past 10 days even though I knew we were on vacation. Today I just happened to be here when the site was up!

( Starburns )
So glad it's back with everything going on I'm desperate for this community's support and analysis!

eatmypussy & Jane_Merrydaughter #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Are we nearing mass peak trans? Is the tide turning?

( eatmypussy )
Recent legislation has made me extremely optimistic. (Almost all gender critical legislation is coming from the Republican Party though, as Democrats continue to double down on gender ideology and alienate voters). Regardless of which party is passing it, we should celebrate the progress we've made in the U.S to protect women's sex-based rights!

When it comes to gender critical legislation, we've come a long way from 2019. A few examples:

- 25 states now ban TIMs from competing in women's sports. This is a huge change from 2019, when 0 states had this legislation in place.
- 22 states ban the chemical castration of minors ("puberty blockers") and ban butchers from performing double mastectomies / phalloplasty / vaginoplasty on children. A HUGE WIN for child safeguarding!!
- 10 states have some version of a bathroom bill on the books which enshrine in law that bathrooms and locker rooms are single-sex facilities
- 7 states ban the teaching of gender ideology in K-12 schools (unfortunately, teaching about LGB is also censored as a result, as the TQ have linked themselves via the alphabet soup)
- 3 states have passed the WoLF sponsored Women's Bill of Rights in 2023, with more posed to pass it this year
- 2 states restrict drag performances from being performed around children
Half the country has made enourmous progress on this issue. I hope the Democrats will be forced to come around eventually as more of their base peaks.

( Jane_Merrydaughter )
I think the popular feminist schism has occurred at last, and that is a major development.

We are

Sex feminists

or

Gender identity feminists

I also think the TQ+ tail is falling off the LGB as people tease out for themselves that sexuality and “gender identity” have duck all to do with one another.

It’s pretty much double down or think your way out.

As a sex feminist, trans men and women in detransition are welcome to hang at my wimmins camp, and let this be a lesson to us all about why single-sex cultural and institutional spaces are critical.

I love that the final question in the Kathleen Stock lecture at UATX is a women’s college student asking about a revival of women’s colleges.

I say “Let’s go.”

Ground up.

If Bari Weiss can do it, why not a band of merry sex feminists of Ovarit?

MaryDyer, crodish & Elle_x_oh #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Are we nearing mass peak trans? Is the tide turning?

( MaryDyer )

Public support for LGBTQ is declining (likely due to the TQ)

It’s absolutely due to the TQ. Public support for stuff like gay marriage was at an all time high until the freaks started changing the meaning of words, demanding access to spaces that they are rightly excluded from, issuing violent threats to anyone who didn’t bow down to their demands, dismantling common sense protocols like safeguarding of children, teaching a new, warped, regressive, highly controversial ideology to children as though it’s undisputed fact, making an effort to alter the very way that humans identify and address one another, as well as the ability to perceive and react to threats, defending literal rapists and murderers simply because of their magic genderfeelz, etc.

( crodish )
I've seen increased homophobia all around too, and not just trans-flavored homophobia ("lesbians can like dick" etc). Shit like "this is why we should never have let the gays marry" and "slippery slope is a fallacy my ass". The downfall of it constantly being marketed as "the LGBTQIA2S++" is that the LGB are forever collateral damage. Also doesn't help that as many LGB people want nothing to do with TQ rubbish, that there ARE LGB people who have been caught up in it, along with the spicy straight and queer with extra steps crowd. It's a fucking ugly mess. Everything wrong with the "LGBTQIA" movement can be traced back to "TQ" roots. They've made everyone associate "gay lifestyle" with "pedophilia" and "weird" again, the VERY THINGS gay people were fighting so hard to destigmatize.

Sorry I could rant about this forever.

( Elle_x_oh )
While I can appreciate the global move against trans creep and the efforts of all sane people fighting against it...I can't wait for the day when the members of my family, who at the moment don't talk to me, actually peak themselves.

Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

I don't care why dysphoria exists...
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Dysphoria, as these people like to think of it, doesn't exist. It's a made up concept, sort of like the whole "multiple personalities" schtick. No, you do not have this fictional condition that makes you unable to function in your own body.

What you're experiencing are feelings of self-consciousness, envy, shame, anxiousness, and dissatisfaction that every person on earth feels, except unlike most people who deal with these feelings in healthy ways and learn to let them go, you've obsessed over them to the point where it's all you think about.

That is what "real dysphoria" is. Self-centeredness to the point of not being able to function correctly.

Either that or sexual compulsions brought on by paraphilia that you indulge in to the point that they become a behavioral addiction that, like all other addictions, is hard to break and causes you "discomfort" when you stop indulging in it.

Edit: I'd also like to add that addictions tend to take over all of your thoughts and begin to consume you and you end up centering your entire life around them. These people don't need "gender care." They need addiction rehab.

Like many other addictions (food, drugs, hoarding, alcohol) this addiction may have come about due to adverse childhood experiences. Regardless, that's no excuse for allowing your addiction to derail your own life and the lives of others. Stop using examples of little gay boys calling themselves girls because they don't understand homosexuality yet, are afraid of being bullied, and don't actually know the physical differences between sexes, therefore associate being men and women with superficial sexist stereotypes to excuse your own perversions or your own behavioral addictions.

Leave the rest of us alone and get some help. Seriously.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

JK Rowling is on a roll today!
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( MardyMcMare )
She sounds a lot freer now compared with her carefulness just a couple of years ago. She knows she’s on the winning team, and has the support of millions of women. I admire her so much!

( LizardQ )
I think she genuinely tried to extend good faith to trans people...and they gave her nothing in return. They went full mask off. These fuckers seriously kill any goodwill that comes their way with their absolutely insane demands. People are waking up. JK is amazing. So eloquent and always spot on. She rules.

( Spencer_Shayy )
It's sad, but it's the path most traveled. At one point, we all tried to extend an olive branch to "trans" people - only to be beaten, threatened, insulted, degraded, dehumanized, and attacked by them in return.

"Trans" people create "transphobes".

( MardyMcMare )
”Trans" people create "transphobes".

This is so true. The more I “get to know” them - as I was advised to - the more repulsed I feel.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Yup. It wasn't "TERFs" who made me hate "trans" people. It was "trans" people. Their horrid behavior, their vile beliefs and evil ideology... they go against everything I stand for.

( Gray )
Relatable. I felt a lot of empathy at first for those feeling gender dysphoria because of course I could relate to it. I think a large majority of women and girls in the world do relate to not wanting to be female at least a few different points in our lives, for a variety of reasons. I still even feel some empathy for the TIFs who aren’t too far gone and unhinged. But the type of mental illness that TIMs is very different. It’s terrifying. And the way that TIPs and TRAs rally together to be abusive towards primarily the women who speak up against them. It disgusts me so much. I don’t have much empathy left for them no matter how much I try.

( proudcatlady )

Man isn’t a slur

Well they can be forgiven for thinking it is. If someone called me a man I’d be super offended. Worst group of people on the planet.

ApricotThoughts, Mari11 & Wsbfom01 #transphobia ovarit.com

Can men breastfeed is asking the wrong question

( ApricotThoughts )
Men want to "breastfeed" for the same reason they want to "menstruate." The are both faux/foe activities (foes to women and children). They are simulating women's experiences to experience sexual arousal, if not in the moment, then afterwards.

These men breastfeed with the baby as a sex toy. Once they've established "sex toy" status for the child, when does it stop? Wide open for continuing sexual abuse, even at a low level - the child has been sexualized, how does a man with a sexual fetish walk that back for the sake of the child?

Taking pictures of themselves doing this is porn for other men.

( Mari11 )
That’s the biggest red flag to me. I’d never publish photos of my toddler breastfeeding because I know there are gross freaks out there that would use it for nefarious purposes. I’m suspicious of anyone who publishes those sorts of photos on social media (some mums are just naive I guess but I’m sure these men doing it must know)

( Wsbfom01 )
Men have breasts yes, but the breast tissue is not as developed compared to a woman. If you have to induce both the growth of the breast tissue along with the production of milk with massive amounts of hormones and other medicine can you really say that it’s healthy and safe? Where are the studies showing that the milk produced by a transwoman is sufficient and healthy for a child? Is it really ethical? The study they love citing is based on a group made up of women who were not pregnant , trans identified females and trans identified males.

Woman who can’t produce milk are simply told to give formula and even women who breastfeed have to stick to a specific diet.

I don’t see the point of supporting this abomination just for the sake of “gender euphoria”. The funny thing is that if they ever manage to normalize this they’ll immediately want something else, menstruation , giving birth etc. they’ll never be satisfied , because they’re chasing something unattainable.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The idea that people who don't support gender ideology are on the far-right

( LunarMoose )
People live in such bubbles. If I went to a local coffee shop in my very liberal town and said anything mildly GC - chances are I'd be asked to leave.

Add to that, the media are captured. They are all 20 somethings who don't believe in journalism. I watched libs of tiktok and Taylor Lorenze (sp?) talk about trans-trends in kids. Libs was disappointing (she wasn't in command of the facts) and neither was Taylor (a left wing 'journalist'). She had NO CLUE. I don't think she's ever even researched the issue - despite the fact that she writes about it all the time.

:(

( worried19 )
It's a deliberate attempt to paint us as villains. Because to most liberals, conservatives are villains, so if someone doesn't have the "approved" view on gender ideology, TRAs have decreed that it must be because we're conservative in our hearts.

I'm a moderate overall, and I think moderates, liberals, and conservatives should be able to agree on how badly gender ideology is affecting women and children for many of the same reasons. It's wrong to sterilize kids. I think all sides can agree on that because we all believe kids have the right to grow up with their bodies intact and not altered by hormonal disruption.

( Gwenllian )
I think it is because the gender brigade have attached themselves like a rabid limpet to the left, they automatically view any dissent as being right wing.

Ironically their ideology of womanhood being a commodity they can purchase is capitalism on steroids. Their pursuit of privileges that take away women's rights, history and ability to protest is downright fascism. They attempt to convert lesbians and gays using brutal medical means. Forced speech and behaviour. Disobedience is punished severely through violence and censorship. They try to indoctrinate young children to their ideology. They disregard safeguarding procedures in favour of male sexual fetishes.

So it makes me wonder...how in the hell can they consider themselves left wing?

( Autumn-Aprodithe )
Gender ideology is all about letting men in drag invade our spaces as a birth right. I'm not right or left, I am a Matriarchy supporter.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( dragonheart )
The idea that people who don't support gender ideology are on the far-right
One thing that I have noticed being discussed in TRA circles is the notion that the "rise in transphobia" or any "transphobia" (aka critical thinking) is a result of far-right politics; the consideration that center or left leaning people could be gender critical and have "transphobic" opinions doesn't even enter the conversation at all.

I haven't actually come across any far-right gender critical people - conservative sure but nobody who I would consider extremist. It seems to me that the majority of gender critical people I come across are actually left leaning or somewhere in the middle depending on other factors.

Do you think TRAs purposefully ignore this fact because they can't as easily brand left-leaning people as hateful bigots or they are just delusional about it and think that left-leaning people all engage in groupthink and automatically support gender ideology?

( hellamomzilla )
I hate this formulation because I feel that opposition to the systemic politicization of trans theory isn’t basically political. I feel that opposing it is a reality, scientific situation.

I am opposed to this not because of my political leanings but because it’s all lies. Humans come in one of two sexes, the end. THAT is the basis of my disagreement with the idea that anyone can change her sex. Sure, as we all know, there are political ramifications, but at base, I’m standing on biological truth. I also get why most of the political fighting against the lie of trans is freedom of belief/speech, but I kind of hate it. Understanding the reality of human reproduction is not an OPINION.

( Eava )
You won't find far right or conservative gender critical people. [...] You will find plenty of far right people who are anti-trans, pretty much every legal organization that takes on cases is Dominionist Christian like the ADF, and any anti-trans belief is labeled "gender critical" because the media and TRAs don't understand feminism.

Believing sex is real and men can't be women and women can't be men isn't a gender critical belief, it is one common among right wing Christian extremists like the Duggars and other Quiverfull adherents.

( BellaBlue )
I self-identify as a Gender Critical Conservative. I'm right here.

WrongToy #transphobia ovarit.com

Trump invites 'brave' women's swim team that 'stood up to' transgender athlete to rally stage

As someone else said, the Dems could have and should have fixed this issue in their party after 2016 as it was said then that Obama’s pro trans policy sent voters to Trump. Instead, their pushback under Biden was inviting Mulvaney to the White House, hiring old AGP Richard Levine as a senior health official backing child transition, and trying to ram through an equality act ensuring all women’s spaces and sports would be Tim infested. Oh, and then the Easter party where some Tim flashed his boobs next to a couple of bare chested tifs with amputated breasts.

These days, the Dems don’t want to talk about it. So Trump will.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: What can we do?

( RusticTroglodyte )
I'm voting third party. Sorry but there is just no way Harris is secretly GC. She was giving rapists and murderers free breast implants years ago

( Veneficca )
Talk to people. Make this visible. People tend to support it when it's an abstraction - then they see real world consequences like Mr. Johnson the math teacher is now Miss Johnson and he's also coaching the cheerleaders and in their locker room. During abortion talks, I bring up the women getting pregnant in prison. Support falters when people see it in real life.

It takes bravery and a willingness to risk the loss of friendship. But more and more people are open to the conversation. Parents are mobilizing. More detransitioners will be suing. We can keep opening people's eyes and that's going to be very effective for women in particular, because so many of our groups and events and communities were given away by other women who thought they were being kind.

Essentially, we can focus on taking back women's spaces and let Democrats know this is not supported by their base. And we can get active locally by seeking leadership positions and then Trojan horsing them just like TRAs Trojan horsed the Left.

( truthisnthate )
You could become a supporter of DIAG (Democrats for An Informed Approach To Gender), it won’t cost you a penny. DIAG is working to educate democratic lawmakers and policy makers at the state and federal levels about the harms of sex-denialism. But to be effective, DIAG needs high numbers of supporters in state and federal districts to convince lawmakers that it is in their own best interest to change course on policies that erase women’s sex-based rights and endanger the health of minors. DIAG also has a forum for supporters that allows them to communicate with other supporters in their state so that they can plan actions and meet-ups.

( Opals )
Every now and then I go through my finances and try to look if I can leave companies that support gender identity ideology - and tell those companies why I am leaving

Might be something possible even on a low income

They will change when it costs them

And for people who are doubtful… look at ABInBev and the ‘Dylan Mulvaney’ scandal. People no longer buying their beer hit them hard

Lilith-Fair #transphobia ovarit.com

I don't read it that way though. When they say "all students/people", "all" actually refers to transwomen and other gender specials.

For a long time, I used to be really confused when they say, "Protecting trans rights protects all women". (Or something similar like "Excluding transwomen harms all women".) The way the statement is phrased, I assumed "all women" is a follow up to say that protecting trans rights would also protect biological women. The statement made no sense to me because the infringement on women's rights was precisely what GC feminists were talking about. Until it finally dawned on me that "all women" did not mean us. To them, biological women are the default, and "all women" is the catch-all for transwomen.

In other words, when trans rights are not protected, some women are not protected. Those some women are the transwomen. By protecting trans rights, all women are protected, not just the biological ones.

It's a very sly way of sounding like they care about biological women, when in fact the entire statement is about everyone else except biological women who don't identify as some other gender.

So now, when they say "We support all students/people . . .", it may sound like they are saying they support the girls/women too, but what they're really saying is "We won't consider only the needs and safety of girls/women who are the default. We support ALL students/people". "All" being the trans identifying ones. And no one is excluded.

I swear when they say "all", we need to make them explain clearly what do they mean by "all".

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

"The trans equivalent of blood libel was just broadcast to millions of people."
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( blibberinghumdinger )
I hate JD Vance but I'll be glad if the existence of AGP becomes mainstream. I'm sick of trying to explain the concept of it to people who are close to peaking and them looking at me like I have 2 heads and I'm making shit up. The majority of people have no idea that TIMs aren't all just gay men. People who actually know what AGP is are like a tiny fringe group online.

( Tq231442 )
It took forever to explain to my husband that most TIMs aren't gay males. The only TIMs he saw in his country were gay homosexual cross dressers who were almost exclusively prostitutes and who he felt bad for - he said he knew one who would frequently pop up at his restaurant beaten up and covered in bruises :( the dude liked "tricking" straight men at night while looking for clients

( shewolfoffrance )
It's crazy to me how many reasonably well-informed men are so bad at talking about this issue, even going to the extent of using preferred pronouns or thinking there's some mythical "true trans." It doesn't help that a lot supposed anti-woke men like James Lindsay and Benjamin Boyce are friendly with, and promote, open AGPs.

( shewolfoffrance )
I always thought that pediatric transition and AGP would be the two things most likely to peak a critical mass of people. I'm glad AGP was discussed on a big platform (finally), but I've become more skeptical that AGP itself would peak people. A lot of men are reflexively defensive of other men's problematic sexual behaviors.

( Jernsaxa )
Oh... I thought you couldn't possibly just stop being trans. Funny that 🤷

( SnowWhite )
You actually can as soon as it no longer benefits you. As showcased in everywhere else than west as well as trough history.

( NoName )
Bingo. I am pretty sure if access to women’s spaces went away along with being top of the oppression Olympics podium stopped, they would stop being trans.

( PeregrineWitch )
Terrified of what? That the people you've been fooling with your stories of oppression and murder might start seeing the euphoria boner behind the curtain of the Great and Terrible Trans? By all means, please stop 'trying.'

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: American Psychological Association adopts policy in favor of “gender-affirming care” and supporting the delusion of “gender identity”

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
I guess there's no better way to keep psychologists employed than to create more "trans kids" = lifelong psychological patients.

( notapatsy )
Here's what I suspect this means for me, a transwidow, if I were to seek out therapy for the trauma I experienced in my marriage (I'm now divorced) when my then husband declared he was "a woman in a man's body" and started acting out objectionable, misogynistic, pornified stereotypes of woman and sucked me into participating in his sexual acting out of them. The therapist will blame me for the breakdown of my marriage and try to re-educate me.

( Persimmon64 )
I love how people cite organizations like this as the word of God, like their opinions are the only ones that matter.

So there are 160 people voting on it. There are over 100,000 psychologists in the U.S.

My brother's friend works as a psychiatrist. He sees quite a few people who call themselves "trans". He says they're all seriously mentally messed up individuals (hence the need for psychiatric care even after they've had this miracle "transition" cure that's supposed to suddenly make them these happy, healthy individuals and make their anxiety and depression/suicidal thoughts disappear like magic. They all have a host of other issues, which of course is why they claim "trans" identities in the first place and which don't go away just because they start injecting themselves with horse piss extract.

( capributterfly )
The fallout from all this is going to be so fun to deal with in the coming decades. Especially for those who are being transed as kids. It does feel good to be on the right side of history but it sucks to know how many will be harmed by all this, who were either minors or had actual serious issues going on and weren’t helped in the way they should have been.

( Women1st )
Think of what the vote would be if they didn’t stack the voting members with TRAs and stifle and cancel researchers that present outcomes that don’t align with the groupthink?

Ladylucy & DurableBook #transphobia #enbyphobia ovarit.com

RE: So there's a prominent "vigil for Nex" in my city tomorrow.

( Ladylucy )
I don’t understand why enbies are considered trans. They are the opposite of trans.

( DurableBook )
Oh but seriously the trans/enby schism is one of my favorite areas of trans religious history.

See, there's one sect who see "transgender" and "cisgender" as the fundamental binary. Any person who is transgender is, by definition, not cisgender, and vice versa. Therefore, enbies are a type of transgender.

But there's another sect who divide people into the "binary gendered" or "non binary gendered". Any person who is cisgender is, by definition, binary, but the reverse is not necessarily true. A trans person who sees themselves as exclusively a man or a woman is also a binary gendered person. Therefore, enby does not fall under the "umbrella" of transgender, but rather is actually its own umbrella which trans people may or may not fall under.

If you haven't lurked trans forums and watched the internecine squabbles between these two factions in particular, I really encourage you to give it a try. It's like that old joke:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: "Stop. Don't do it."

"Why shouldn't I?" he asked.

"Well, there's so much to live for!"

"Like what?"

"Well, what about your identity? You have an identity, right?"

He said: "Yes."

I said: "Me too. What are your pronouns?"

"He/him."

"Me too. Are you AFAB or AMAB?"

"AFAB."

"Me too. Are you masc or femme?"

"Masc."

"Wow. Me too. Are you an allosexual masc he/him AFAB, or an asexual masc he/him AFAB?"

"Allosexual masc he/him AFAB."

"Me too. Are you an alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB, or an aromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB?"

"Alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB."

"Me too. Are you a cis alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB, or a trans alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB?"

He said: "Um, I'm a non-binary alloromantic allosexual masc he/him AFAB."

I said: "Die, heretic scum," and pushed him off.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Kjk endorses Trump Vance on child transing

( Elle_x_oh )
If somebody held a gun to my head and said I had to choose between A) a wannabe president who would ban transgender surgeries or B) a wannabe president who would allow male prisoners to transition (and therefore enter female prisons?) I would have to choose A)

I understand Kellie-j's single issue stance would make it easier to choose. (glad I don't have to)

( Mizuna )

Hi Senator Vance.

I'm Elizabeth Mitchell from the Daily Signal. Former President Trump has said that he would ban transgender procedures for minors without parental consent...

-crowd interrupts with applause for 24 seconds-

Stuff like this is why MAGA maintains its popularity despite whatever accusations are thrown at Trump. Where else are you permitted in real life to applaud the banning of child transgender surgeries?

This is a problem entirely of the Democratic Party's own making. If you don't permit criticism of the transgender cult in your own party, then your opponent will. The Democrats had literal years to reconcile this issue within the party and chose the trans cult instead of the voters. Direct your anger at the institutions and powerful people who censor criticism of the trans cult rather than random voters who are sick of this and have no other recourse.

( itsnotaboutewe )
KJK has always said she is a single issue voter and that this is her single issue. She started Party of Women as a single issue party. Her candidates are from both the left and the right, and she doesn't care about their stance on any other issue. She voted on this single issue in the UK election. She will pick a side based on this one issue. This is not a secret and should not be a surprise to anyone.

( WrongToy )
She’s only the latest to be redpilled after Meghan Murphy and Arielle Scarsdella.

When I joined r/gc in 2015, you couldn’t link to the federalist or daily mail. Given that it’s been 98 percent conservative coverage on the gender critical issue, that rule became unwieldy…

mathlover & TheKnitta #transphobia ovarit.com

Colonized lesbian sub gets lectured on “transmisogyny”
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( mathlover )
More and more women have stopped pandering to these men. It particularly bothers them when it is lesbians not pandering. Women are starting to ignore/disregard the presence of the larping men. To make snide comments and laugh in their faces. To make it clear that lesbians are rejecting them for dating/sex not for the semi-respectable "genital preferences" or for being "trans", but because "transwomen" are men.

Women are making it clear that he, and all the men like him, are creepy predators that are prone to male violence and who women are justified in fearing. Women are starting to not even remotely care that he whines that being treated like the invader he is makes him "feel bad". He may even be suspicious that we know he doesn't actually feel bad; he is just angry that women won't let him get off on his fetish at their expense.

The LGBTQWTF alphabet shit soup is still forced to have to include the TQ but there are starting to be occasional events that don't feature the larping men. Lesbians are starting to be more public about saying they would never get with these men.

All this stuff is gradually making more and more of the het male "trans" (which is nearly all of them) feel.like the rapey garbage they are. It all needs to continue. Relentlessly.

( TheKnitta )
Lesbians: “tl;dr, you’re a bloke, fuck off pal”.

That’s all this needs.

All those words, desperate to try to cajole and bully and out-science women into sex with them. Sod these perverts and their sexist, homophobic ideology.

MaryDyer , Tanana & BlukBerry #transphobia ovarit.com

( MaryDyer )
“Why is there so much transphobia uwu?”
TRAs: “We just want to pee…and force our male bodies into female-only safe spaces, police your language, redefine and twist words, coerce you to adopt our language and categorize yourself as subsets of your sex, hijack medical organizations, universities, governmental institutions, and social media to push pseudoscientific garbage that we personally curate, teach your children our ideology as though it’s undisputed fact, call women “vagina-owners” and “bleeders” instead of “women”, eliminate safeguarding and erode children’s boundaries, remove female-based language from medicine, tell lesbians that they’re bigots for not wanting dick, violently shut down discourse, claim that our inverted penises and colo-holes are identical to vaginas, liken black females to males, claim that there is no such thing as biological sex while simultaneously claiming that HRT changes our sex, smoke bomb lesbian conferences, alienate children from their parents, promote the use of powerful drugs and experimental surgeries as a cure-all for mental ailments, convince impressionable youth that they can “be themselves” by removing body parts, and expose children to inappropriate material.”

Normal people: “Hmm…I’m really sorry but I’m just not comfortable sharing private spaces with a male and neither are my daughters.”

TRAs: “How’d you like me to kick your teeth in, you dried up old hag?”

Normal people: “No, see, that’s what I’m talking about. Sorry, the answer is no.”

TRAs: “OH MY GOD WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATRED TOWARDS US??? LITERALLY NONE OF THIS IS AFFECTING YOU AT ALL!!! YOU GONNA WORK AT TREBLINKA 2.0 WHEN THEY OPEN IT DOWN THE STREET?!? uwu”

( Tanana )
You forgot about the "yeah pus coming out of male nipples is as good as milk produced by the mother and if not who cares, it's all about affirming the LAYdeee identity."

( BlukBerry )
Interacting with these delusional narcissists is like getting the cable car up Peak Trans.

Arenlaef & Women1st #transphobia ovarit.com

Massachusetts school REFUSES to apologize for fielding trans basketball player who 'injured multiple rivals, prompting them to forfeit game,' as ACLU defends her too | Daily Mail Online

( Arenlaef )
The left will never be able to convince me they're the good guys ever again. Academia and journalism are basically dead to me. They'd happily see countless women and girls injured as long as one boy never hears the word no and, more importantly, they never have to say they were wrong.

I never thought I'd be here, but I 100% view leftists and liberals like this the same way I've always viewed Fox News or Liberty University. Full on propaganda machines with cult-ish tendencies.

The left despises the fact that they were wrong about trans ideology. Not because of the harm it's doing, but because they were wrong. Their superiority complex cannot take it. They will root out and destroy any dissenter because they can't be wrong.

These girls are suffering because some smug leftist fucks are too arrogant to admit they were wrong. We are literally being held hostage by assholes who care more about looking like good people than being good people.

I have so much hate for the left now. And it's not the dull, long term hate I've held for conservatives. It's a burning hatred produced by massive betrayal. The left's betrayal of women feels so personal to me. I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but it actually gnaws at me knowing that I supported these people for my entire life. And I was never even an actual human to them.

Sorry for being dramatic, but I'm not in a good place today with this shit.

[...]

( Women1st )
Oh that’s cute.

ACLU claims the coverage is about removing LGBTQ people from public life? There are 39 out lesbians in the WNBA. Have we asked them to go back in the closet? Nope.

It’s the fucking T that is erasing women, eroding safeguards, and taking opportunities from women and girls. This clip highlights that. This huge male can take a girl’s spot on the team, can injure other players, can use the locker room, and take female’s opportunities. No one is asking him to stay out of public life. The ask is to respect women and our boundaries.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Minnesota congresswoman Angie Craig claimed it's 'appalling' not to let trans women join female sports teams | Daily Mail Online

( ocelot )
Any and every politician who endorses gender identity ideology needs to be voted out.

( WatcherattheGates )
I agree. But what about Harris?

( ocelot )
I won't be voting for her due to her track record on gender identity ideology.

( Researcher1536 )
The Dems are going all-in on this bullshit, and it'll be their downfall. It's simply amazing how they have managed to implode the party these past few years when it should have been an easy slam dunk against the MAGA right.

( WatcherattheGates )
Absolutely. There must be major, major bucks involved for this self-immolation to be chosen.

( memyselfandi31yrs )
They want to redefine womanhood to include TIMs, support TIMs in womens spaces, and support the transitioning of children. All of this I strongly oppose. I myself don't have a problem with drag queens or cross dressing. I think some men are more feminine and like feminine things, and like expressing themselves creatively by dressing in a feminine way. Flame monroe has called it out too, and has said that he doesn't believe that boys should be competing with girls, that it's wrong and that transgenders should create their own lane. Disabled people have their own Olympics just for them. And trans need to do the same thing with sports.

( HelenaHandbasket )
She has four sons.

Maybe one of them wants to join the girls' team so he can steal a scholarship or championship.

(Yes, I'm cynical AF.)

( babygrandpiano )

In a statement, she said: 'Queer and transgender women must stand together in the face of intolerance. 'I am proud to do so today by emphatically denouncing this narrow-minded and hateful legislation, which is harmful not only to transgender women but to the LGBTQ Community at-large.'

Why do TIMs and lesbian and bisexual women need to stand together? I wish someone would ask her how does this legislation hurt lesbian and bisexual women???

( carbon0va )
The TQ can stand together all they like. Way over there, away from the LGB. And if she'd rather call herself a slur than a lesbian, she is free to join them.

( pennygadget )
For real. This forced teaming needs to die. Its dragging the LGBs down

Hyades , notsofreshfeeling & Unicorn #transphobia ovarit.com

Trump Goes All In on Anti-Trans - by Marc A. Caputo

( Hyades )
You know it's bad when even a rapist and blatant misogynist is against this profoundly anti-woman ideology.

( notsofreshfeeling )
I recall, going back several years now, conservatives signaling to each other with quotes from Orwell and "2 + 2 = 5" t-shirts. It's not about wanting to stigmatize weirdos; it's about not wanting weirdos forcing everyone around them to lie. It's about not wanting weirdos grooming your kids with fetish culture. It's about free speech.

Liberals want this to be about "trans people" as an identity group, but most of us out here see "trans people" as "male and female people with mental illness and/or paraphilia."

( Unicorn )
Trans is the Democratic party's Achilles' heel. The stupidest one at that. If this is the issue that causes Democrats to lose in this years election, they have only themselves to blame. And it would be the biggest political blunder in a long time, imo, once the dust settles and people look back at this point in time and were like "why the fuck did we think medicalizing girls who didn't want to grow up in misogyny and boys who wanted to play dress up was the 'progressive' thing to do?" Embarrassing...

Feminists warned them, they shut them down. Women warned them, they shut them down. Now Republicans get an easy attack that is actually real. Republicans throw around a bunch of stupid hyperbole (no one actually gets dropped off at school as a boy and picked up as a girl, c'mon), but the core of "Democrats believe men can claim to be women and go into women's bathrooms and girls should be allowed to get their breasts removed and inject steroids because they think they're boys" is true and can be verified with many sources. And to any moderate/average person that is fucked up.

Sometimes TRAs claim "trans is only 1% of the population, leave them alone!" well boy it's going to be pretty fucking embarrassing if Democrats lose because the party decided to cater to a handful of ✨stunning and brave✨ basement-dwelling gooners wearing poorly applied lipstick and cheap wigs.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Trump’s ads on trans issues are effective. Harris has herself to blame.

( ocelot )
As soon as I learned about the title 9 revision, I knew I would not vote Dem in this election.

I keep joking to my Trumper family that I will still vote RFK Jr (who now endorses Trump...), but I think when pen hits paper, I will hold my nose and vote DJT due to my concerns over free speech (as someone else mentioned in this thread), gender identity ideology, and immigration/borders. At the bottom line, I'd vote for any candidate who agrees with me on these issues, and this time around it's DJT.

( wrongthink )
this was my line in the sand too, but the lack of support for free speech and the undemocratic way they forced harris forward as the candidate did not help.

( twinklebarbie )
Same! Even abortion isn’t enough tog eat me to vote for them. This is far more important to me.

( Arenlaef )
I really wish they'd put this trans shit up to a vote. Not attached secretly to another issue. Not as part of "LGBTQ" rights. Just flat out "Do you dear voter think that men in prison who declare themselves women should not only be transferred to a female prison but should have their boob jobs, facial feminization surgeries and (for the few that actually get them) genital surgeries paid for by you the taxpayer?

Or shorted "Would you like to pay for the plastic surgery of some criminal?" How could that not be effective for Republicans? It's the dumbest fucking thing that's ever happened.

( GoAskAli )
Absolutely. I believe the Democratic party has been conned into believing they have to be "all in" on this in order to maintain support from LGB constituents, and it doesn't help when more & more people try to frame this as a "left vs. right" issue.

It isn't that, and the framing is doing far more harm than good.

( Miss_Appropriation )
I have been a victim of domestic abuse. I refuse to keep coming back to the Democrats again and again just to have them beat me down. I will most likely abstain.

( PerenelleFlamel )
You know, I was just thinking about how I am so exhausted over the gaslighting coming from the Dems. First, it's not happening. Then, if it is happening, it's not that big of a deal. THEN, when the issue is inescapable, you need to embrace the illegal migrant murderer trans rapist who supports sharia law as part of the colorful fabric of American society!

The purity spiral is equally exhausting.

Hyades & MarthaMMC #transphobia ovarit.com

Republicans’ closing argument: an attack on transgender rights

( Hyades )
"Republicans closing argument: an attack on transgender rights fraudsters"

These fucking men/males already have their "rights" - the right to be in areas of undress (lockerooms, etc) around people of their own sex, the same as anyone else. They do NOT have the right to join womens' teams and inflict permanent, lifelong, and completely preventable injuries on women, or commit voyeurism by entering female-only spaces, just to "affirm" themselves. Just no.

It's worth echoing what some here on ovarit have said: Dems, stop giving Republicans talking points.

( MarthaMMC )
"Allred, a former linebacker for the Tennessee Titans, responded to the ads. “I’m a dad. I’m also a Christian. My faith has taught me that all kids are God’s kids. So let me be clear. I don’t want boys playing girls’ sports or any of this ridiculous stuff that Ted Cruz is saying,” Allred says to camera.

In a debate, Allred said again he doesn’t support “boys playing girls’ sports,” but he added, “What I think is that folks should not be discriminated against.”"

He is weaseling around a definite answer. If he thinks TWAW then he can claim trans girls are not boys so boys aren't playing in girls sports. When he says they shouldn't be discriminated against-does he mean TIMs should not be kept out of single sex female spaces because that would be discrimination?

And as far as "gender affirming" care in prison, how is it that this gets covered while pregnant women prisoners don't get proper prenatal care & in some places are chained to the bed during childbirth. Do other male or female prisoners get proper medical care? Do older females get hrt therapy after menopause if they are considered to need it?

The pushing of TRA is an Obama-Biden policy.

various commenters #transphobia #enbyphobia ovarit.com

“A girl was involved in a bathroom fight and likely hit her head on the floor and now I’m afraid I’m going to be MURDERED TOO!!!”
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( Edelgard )
I'm a broken record at this point, but I still don't understand why anyone is entertaining enby delusions.

TIMs and TIFs claim to be a type of human that exists. There have been laws prohibiting cross-dressing and violent murders of prostituted TIMs. I can understand why the average Joe would think they're persecuted for "who they are", regardless of my personal feelings on gender.

How could enbies be persecuted when no one, including themselves, know what a non-binary person is supposed to be ?

( hellamomzilla )
Or, every freaking human being alive is “non-binary” because while we all have a biological sex, none of us conforms absolutely to the sex stereotypes overlaid onto human sex.

What I’m saying is NBs are people attempting to make themselves special by being COMPLETELY ORDINARY AND RENAMING IT.

( grenadine )
It's interesting that they say LGBTQ when the perceived persecution TQs face is mostly not complete reverence from women and the LGB community.

Good luck with this very contradictory list, I guess.

( cranberrysalad )
A biology major, eh? What a mess for OP and her teachers.

“Sexuality studies minor” is why so many companies don’t even want college graduates anymore. Even a biology degree, which was a solidly employable STEM degree up until now has been corrupted by this fuckery.

( Riothamus )
It's sick that all sorts of people are telling mentally ill teenagers that they're in danger of murder or suicide based upon complete lies.

They're doing their best to manifest teen suicides.

( Eava )
It is a self fulfilling prophecy. They alienate children from their families, which pushes them into homelessness or other unsafe situations, they turn to prostitution to make money to survive, they get murdered and it is blamed on transphobia.

Or they tell the kids how everyone hates them and doesn't want them to exist, and they're in danger whenever they step out the door, and then when kids commit suicide, they blame transphobia. There is a Kentucky politician whose TIF daughter committed suicide because "it was too hard living with the hatred' or something like that. It was really sad.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Lynch )
"People can't change who they are!" (why is this so constantly said when demanding acceptance of transgenderism?)
Reading and watching many discussions about transgenderism over and over I keep hearing some version of "people can't change who they are" coming from those in support of transgenderism and I wonder how they think this makes any sense. Also doesn't it basically begs the question assuming they are born in the wrong body and/or are not just mistaken about who or what they think they are?

( lesbiansherlock )
Because that’s what gay people used to say to try to make straight people understand it’s not a choice to be gay. They are just doing what they do, constantly stealing and lying.

I don’t think they care about making sense, nothing in their theology does. They’re just trying to play on people’s emotions.

( Tanana )
This. Just stealing from the lesbians and gays like usual. And yes logic is the least of their concern, otherwise they would realize that if people can't change who they are then "transition" isn't possible, they can't go from M to F if they can't change. Stupid as usual.

( notsofreshfeeling )
By adopting transgender terminology, you redefine everyone else to include members of the opposite sex in their identity. When you refer to a man as "she," you make the words I use for myself and other women meaningless. Why is okay for you to change who I am?

( VestalVirgin )
No idea what they want to say with this, either. No one demands that gender specials change their genderfeelz, after all. We aren't the ones persecuting thoughtcrime. We just refuse to play along.

I can't change who I am, and I happen to be able to tell the difference between women and men. Gender specials demand that I change this, so if anything, they are the ones demanding that people change who they are.

( AsterRising )
God, I hate this argument so much. Trans activists will say "people can't change who they are" but then admit their entire identity is based around cultural gender norms. I really wish someone would tell them you can't have it both ways - you can't claim to be "born this way," like gay people are, and then insist that your identity is culturally specific

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

The NHS says trans women should breastfeed babies. This is unforgivable | The Spectator

( Women1st )

I have some sympathy for these poor men. They’re driven mad by hormones and the mental strain of trying to believe they’re female.

No. Zero sympathy. These are child sexual predators. Their fixation is akin to a sociopath fixating on how to take a life.

( BondiBlue )

Their fixation is akin to a sociopath fixating on how to take a life.

Buffalo Boobs.

“It puts the moob juice on its skin or else it gets the hose again.”

( Women1st )
It’s child sexual abuse. Babies aren’t props or Guinea pigs. These men are predators.

( AsterRising )
Our society has genuinely gone beyond the pale when people are willing to sacrifice babies to the whims of this cult. It breaks my heart to think about the damage being done to children to appease men's twisted fetishes. I keep wondering where the moms are in this situation - what kind of women would allow this to be done to their kids?

( Dwarfjade )
These babies are going to grow up traumatized. I know I would be if I was breastfed by a male.

( klytaimestra )
No one knows what the mental and physical impact is. Extreme trauma, no doubt - but how will that manifest; and what are the physical effects?

I don't know if there's anything comparable from history where babies would have been subjected to sexual experimentation by the state at this scale. Horrifying.

( Dwarfjade )
You’re completely right. The more I think about it, the worse it gets… All so these men can find some sick satisfaction. Meanwhile, actual women still face harassment while breastfeeding in public.

Vasilisa #transphobia ovarit.com

Bill C-63 in Canada - a new tool to oppress women


This is a bill that purports to protect children from online exploitation (good! if only!) but sneaks in words that are absolutely shocking. Here is is, talking about “hate crimes”:

320.‍1001 (1) Everyone who commits an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, if the commission of the offence is motivated by hatred based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.

And “hate” is defined as

hatred means the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike; (haine)

This can be used to punish and harass women in so many ways. I feel I’m practically “back in the USSR”. What next? Siberia? Gulag?

I think we’ll have a jolly good time meeting one another in prison, dear Canadian Ovarites. Personally, I am well past the zone of mere “dislike”, and well into “detestation” …and I think many of you are, too. And how can you NOT detest the TIMs? Today as I was reading about the “chest feeding” I felt myself sinking into the very red zone of “vilification”.

It will not take long for this bill, if enacted in its current form, to start making victims. Imprisonment for life! Not for pedophiles, murderers, serial killers, but for detesting TIMs.

Megasaurus , syntaxerror & delicate_silicate #transphobia ovarit.com

( Megasaurus )
So many AGPs are MRAs/incels/'former' neoNazis. They're the worst dudes.

( syntaxerror )
The incel to TIM pipeline is real. A lot of them even admit it

A common phrase you hear is “I couldn’t date the hot (goth/gamer/bimbo) girl I dreamed about, so I became her,” said without a trace of self reflection

( delicate_silicate )
There is a guide that has detailed instructions on how to do this. It's been passed around here a few times and it's quite a fascinating read. I think it's called "guide to transmaxing" or something like that.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

And how, pray tell, can you be sexually attracted to a feeling in someone else’s head?
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( istara )
Homosexual not homogender

( Unicorn )
Homogender lmao. I like it.

Let's start coining homogender and heterogender. If TIPs think gender is all that matters, while other people still live in reality where realize sexual beings are attracted to people with certain sexual organs, we can use words for them that better explain and delineate their sexist thinking.

Also I bet a lot of men nowadays are "heterogender" after decades of pornsickness and normalized misogyny. They're not attracted to female people, they're attracted to feminine ideals. Hence why there are men okay with HSTS partners who tend to rigidly perform femininity.

( MaryDyer )
I second this. I’ve started a rough draft of their new dictionary so they can stop stealing and twisting OUR words:

Gender: one’s internal sense of affinity for outdated sex-based stereotypes

Moman/birl: a male who identifies with the gender (sex-based stereotypes) historically associated with females

Wan/goy: a female who identifies with the gender (sex-based stereotypes) historically associated with males

Gender orientation: the gender that you are genderally attracted to

Genderal intercourse: also known as “having gender”; the joining together of two genders in a pleasurable union. See also: mind meld

Heterogenderal: attracted to the opposite gender

Homogenderal: attracted to the same gender

Mazerbae: a homogenderal moman

Wazerbae: a homogenderal wan

( istara )
Also, one can of course be both (effectively "super straight" - or "super gay" - that sounds fabulous, doesn't it?!)

( pennygadget )
"I wasn't initially attracted to that woman over there because I'm not a lesbian. But now that I see the 'he/him' pronoun badge, I suddenly see the inner man soul and want to ask him out!!" 😍

@whatifalthist #wingnut twitter.com

Wokeness is a greater threat to the survival of Western civilization than either the Marxists or Nazis ever were. Don't treat them as silly ivory tower fools who mean well. They're a nihilistic suicide cult that wants to destroy everything you love and they've gained control of all the levers of power. They're trying to shove 20 sleeping pills down right now and it's our duty to be their conscious and have a come to Jesus moment after the 4th Benadryl

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Women voters pushed toward Trump over rising trend of transgender athletes in girls’ sports

( Leithriel )
We can fix abortion rights - but *only *if we can protect women as a sex class in law.

I do not trust the democrats to do so. Thus, I am voting for Trump.

( pennygadget )
This is a good point. How can we advocate for abortion and other women's issues if Democrats like Katanji Brown-Jackson tremble like frightened animals when asked to define what a woman is or which people get pregnant?

( Itzpapalotl )
Yeah. Women are sick of men pretending to be us. We’re sick of the blatant lies, sick of children being needlessly medicated, sick of men in female prisons, in female rape shelters, in female changing rooms, bathrooms and sports.

We are women, distinct from men. We deserve dignity, privacy and the right to say no to men and their BS misogynist ideology.

( overanddone )
how much of Dem political support for gender insanity is due to chasing money from large donors of the leftist variety and how much is due to "this is what I believe." ?

( CryingInYourInbox )
Any woman who thinks Trump and AGP Vance are gonna smother TRAs agency with the rabid fervor that they did with abortion rights has worms for brains

Vote for fucking Kamala or an AGP is going to turn you in to for having a miscarriage in the female bathroom and will probably receive a financial reward for doing so

Those are your options

( jelliknight )
This is one of the most important and stupidest elections in history

How are we going to explain to future high school students that everyone knew he was probably going to be a dictator with dementia, but we kinda had to elect him anyway because the other side kept insisting they didnt know what a woman was.

Imagine if Hitler got elected because the opposition were insisting that crayons are tasty and nutritious, and everyone should eat them 3x a day.

( Smartierthanthou )
I am a feminist. Never in my life did I think that the Democrat party would be forcing me to choose between my own bodily autonomy or sexual autonomy for women. I'm hopeful that there's a capacity for reflection and reform from the Democrats, but I am utterly disgusted with them as an institution.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Harris on TIM Prisoners and Gender Affirming Care

( overanddone )
I disagree vehemently with Democrats on this issue. I will continue to fight after the election for Democrats (people in general really) to end the trans cult stranglehold on instituitons and laws.

I will send my donations to WoLF, because they are fighting this insanity in the courts and by working with lawmakers to make progress removing men from women's spaces, no matter who wins the election.

But I will vote for her and hold my nose. The alternative is terrifying,.

( LizardQ )
I feel like there is a creepy aspect of using inmates for experimental surgeries/medical practices too. Sure, these guys want it, but they're also insane. It's not ethical to do that, and them being prisoners makes it even less ethical (before we get to the idea of taxes paying for it even). I think this has potential to be a disturbing slippery slope. It's not like it'd be the first time incarcerated people would be medically experimented on.

( StrawberryCough )
The only bright spot in this is, if Harris wins, I think Team Blue could possibly be pushed into stepping back on Trans, if we get enough weight behind it, and maybe some money.

( Biologia )
I mean, this is the closest to legalized permanent sterilization of sex offenders that we can reach before it impacts freedom. I think we should cover bottom surgery on males for this reason. It also allows us to do research and improve surgical techniques on a larger scale. I say line them up- and maybe argue to have a separate prison dedicated to this.

Just my opinion.

( DoomedSibyl )
Doesn’t matter, most TIMs don’t want SRS. Depending on where you read, either 94% or 96% of trans identified males are fully intact and intend to stay that way. They want the other surgeries (bolt ons, body contouring, facial feminization surgery) to feed their fetish. TIMs definitely don’t want to lose the sexual function.

There’s a possibility that the American taxpayer will be paying for cosmetic surgeries for trans criminals, including the higher percentage of rapists in the TIM population. What’s next? TERFs will be forced to send them affirming care packages?

moonlust45 #transphobia ovarit.com

Why do black women support transgenderism?
I stopped following the afro-feminist page called Afrocolectiva because it is immersed in transgenderism. They talk about the lived experiences of black women from different parts of the world in which I feel identified. They have good publications that talk about female genital mutilation. All good until I saw a video of them talking about trans children "debunking the transphobic or terf discourse that children do not have the maturity to question their gender identity."

The video talks about the patriarchal and binary ideas imposed by colonizers on indigenous and black people that reduce trans and non-binary people to their genitals and that the category of woman was introduced by colonizers.

I saw another video about a black female athlete who was banned from women's sports for having high testosterone levels and she says it's an injustice to black female athletes. But in the same video they say that they are using this as an excuse to exclude "trans women."

What does that have do with black women!? Black women are women, not males with high or levels of testosterone, castrated penis or fake boobs! I am tired of being compared with men!

I saw another video talking about that blackface is racism. Questioning the fact that they chose a white person to play as Baltasar and not a black person. Why don't they talk about womanface? Why don't they talk about Munroe Bergdof who was chosen as ambassador of the UN Women Committee of the United Kingdom and that he stated that he does not want to hear anything related to the body of human females? Why is the fact that they chose a man as a representative of women not questioned when they could have chosen a woman?

Following non woke black women like Laetitia Kay, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and Hibo Wardere is like breathing fresh air. Trans activists really showed their racism by attacking Laetitia Kay for talking to JK Rowling. Also by attacking Hibo Wardere because talking about female genital mutilation hurts TIMS feelings. When Hibo Wardere herself was a victim of female genital mutilation. How can they be so cruel?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

TRA attempt at satire - "Taking hormones to treat a medical condition is exactly the same as taking hormones just because you feel like it!"
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( Ava )
I don't understand how these people have seriously convinced themselves that they have a "medical condition" and that they therefore should be "treated" with hormones.

A man with low testosterone is given hormones because we can literally observe his physical problem. Meanwhile there is no way to measure "transness." You're going off someone saying that they feel like they should be the opposite sex. There is nothing physically wrong with them.

The fact that they can so snarkily act like "dysphoria" is equivalent to observable medical issues is crazy to me.

( Edelgard )
It's only a medical condition when it's convenient though. In other contexts saying transness is a medical condition is heinous transphobia.

( shewolfoffrance )

Meanwhile there is no way to measure "transness."

And they desperately want it to stay that way. Since the goal is sexual access for unscrupulous men, it's important that no one can point to a study that would prove any of them lying perverts. When AGPs like Julia Malott say things like "we can't rule out trans women breastfeeding because it hasn't been studied adequately" they don't mean it. It's deflection and a delaying tactic. The last thing they want is scientists confirming that male nipple discharge is harmful to babies.

( shewolfoffrance )
"Oh, so you're saying cis women can use estrogen to control their hot flashes and regulate their moods, but trans women can't use it to grow boobs?"

Yes, that's what we're saying.

( PracticalMagic )
I read something recently telling prescribers that they should warn TIMs they won't grow massive bewbz on HRT anyway.

( BlackCirce )
Men who take estrogen so they can play with their self induced gynecomastia moobs are not women. I dont really care about male fetishes as long as I don’t have to be involved. They always make it so fucking complicated.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Torreflor )
Will a female walk-away movement get democrats to come to their senses?
I know some black people are walking away from the democrats and opening up to voting republican or 3rd party. Is there a female equivalent of the #walkaway movement? As much as I care about reproductive rights, I'm not convinced that dems are even working to do anything about that. They can use it as a carrot on a stick to get female voters riled up every 4 years, the same way they rile up black people with racism without actually delivering legislation that would improve your life.

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For me, reproductive rights don't mean anything if a male patient can enter a female only ward and harm you and then call you a bigot for complaining.

( eatmypussy )
Serious question: what have the Dems done for women’s rights lately??? They’ve decriminalized prostitution in California with predictably awful results. Allowed TIMs to terrorize & impregnate women in prison. Tried to allow the state to take away people’s children if parents don’t put them on cross sex hormones as minors.

I can think of several issues related to women where Republicans are doing a better job legislating than the Dems: keeping women’s sports eligibility open only to females; age-verification for pornographic websites; passing the women’s bill of rights & codifying sex in law.

I grow more disillusioned with the Democratic party by the day. Defending abortion is about the only thing they’re good for.

( pennygadget )
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Also, we all know that Biden would federally outlaw abortion tomorrow if some TIM stomped into his office and cried, "Abortion is transphobic because i can't have one!!"

( J-Halleck )
You think Trump will improve things for women?

( Torreflor )
Is abortion access more important than preventing the rapes that would lead to needing an abortion in the first place? Poor and homeless and incarcerated women are being raped by men who pretend to be women. I’d rather deal with that and prevent rapes than just offer an abortion after the rape happens.

( pennygadget )
Democrats: "We're gonna force all you vagina people into intimate spaces with mentally ill penis people. But its okay because we will graciously permit you to have an abortion if you get knocked up! We're the feminist party!!"

Exempli_Gratia & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

Language is important and this time, it's accurate
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( Exempli_Gratia )
Your existence is an act of aggression against women. The very fact that you believe you can just skinwalk into our spaces pretending you're one of us is aggressive, hostile, and evidence of a complete lack of empathy.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Maybe we're hostile because you're invading and colonizing spaces that are not for you.

Maybe if you'd stay out of places you don't belong and are not welcome in, no one would be hostile.

Just a thought from your unfriendly neighborhood exclusionary ovary haver.

This is the exact same kind of post Brits would make about Native Americans if internet existed back then.

crodish #transphobia ovarit.com

So much wrong with this post
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That "girl" would still exist. Your "anti-trans" laws aren't marching people off to the gulags 🙄 only asking that you RESUME using the bathroom/sports/prisons you had zero issues with until genderwoo invaded your life. You're not stopped from sports or scholarships, just the female ones. You're not female = you don't qualify. It's not hard to understand.

The transman gotcha is an over used "card". Any TIF, no matter how much she's transitioned, is still female, and therefore still has the RIGHT to use female only spaces and female only services, because she's female. But she's not forced to - she can use male spaces if she wants - because (1) it would affirm her 🙄 (2) men face little to no threat from a female in a male space. If a TIF like Buck Angel walks into a women's space "presenting as a man", of course she's going to get pushback, but that's not on the women who don't and should not expect males to be in their female-only space. That's on the TIF for taking wrong sex hormones and surgeries to the point where she could possibly be mistaken for an actual man, and not just a masculine woman, a woman with short hair, a woman with a flat chest, or a woman with hirsutism. Because, TRAs, "masculinity" doesn't equal "man", and most peoples' sex, even after heavy modification, is still very obvious.

TIMs however are still the ones with a male body - and so they still can't use female spaces no matter how well they pass, or if they've gotten surgery, or if they were on blockers before puberty. There's not much to explain outside of "females are at risk from males and should have the right to female single sexed spaces".

If men want their spaces to be kept single sex only too from females, that's their fight, but I doubt many are going to bother since most of them WANT females in their spaces. See: Grindr, and anywhere else. Gay men can lead their own fight to keep TIFs out of homosexual male spaces.

This is a very tiring overexplanation constantly telling a lion tamer why his lion isn't welcome at the domestic cat contest even though both are cats. And that domestic cats are clear to enter the lion contest at their own risk and safety.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

So much wrong with this post
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( Samhain )
The top photo is of Daniela Arroyo González, a TIM competing in the upcoming Miss Universe Puerto Rico pageant. The boy, called Willow, is being transed by his mom and was in the news last year when activists in South Dakota used him as a pawn to fight a proposed ban on medical transition for children. The third pic is Buck Angel.

( snails )
if an actual woman had a jawline like that she’d be laughed off stage of any beauty pageant. they couldn’t be any more obvious that the judges are just pandering and they don’t actually think that a man is the prettiest woman in puerto rico

( RusticTroglodyte )
I would react negatively if that obvious man walked in the bathroom. His safety in the men's room isn't any of my concern. I am not responsible for male violence

Kids are resilient. That child needs to be told that he's fine the way he is.

Women who look masculine are still obviously women. Not worried about that

Now STFU and GFY

( snails )
yes, buck passes extremely well and i’d probably think she was a man. TIFs usually pass better than TIMs (especially considering this TIF has been on testosterone for most of her life now.)

but even if a TIF looks like a man, you know what she can’t and won’t do? rape women.

( Spencer_Shayy )

"Ask yourself what happens when people start policing women with masculine features."

We don't have to ask. We know what happens because it's actually happening. Woke blowhards like this poster pester them to "transition".

Where are the statistics of such assaults in the men's restroom? I've never seen evidence of men assaulting "transwomen" in the men's room. Anywhere.

Also, the dude at the tops face gives him away. That's the most male expression and face I've ever seen. He's got the "smug for no reason" look most men have.

Also also, using a boy yall are grooming to be "trans" as an example is absolutely disgusting.

What an emotionally manipulative post this person made. Too bad it won't work on anyone outside the cult.

legopants #transphobia ovarit.com

Transhypocrites
1. Women who are afraid of men in their bathroom need to STFU & deal with it, but "transwomen need women's bathrooms because they're unsafe in men's"

2. Trans people can decide to declare someone isn't actually trans and/or that's not what being trans is, but women defining why someone's post/behavior isn't gender critical or radfem are told the person is 100% GC/radfem no matter what even obvi trolls

3. if you aren't trans you can't speak for them or about their experiences, but they can speak for women and about exclusively female experiences

4. TiP can make any claim, say anything, and it's automatically the truth despite no evidence and if you ask for proof you're told to "educate yourself", but women who make a claim about something have to provide tons of proof & evidence to be told anyway that it's somehow fake and trans ppl never have to educate themselves on what GC or Radfem actually means/believes

5. transwomen deserve to have the opportunity to participate in women's sports because men's would invalidate them and hurt their poor feelings or somehow make them "unsafe", but women have to compete with men feeling the same, get over it, and miss opportunities to sport so a man can take her spot

6. you don't get to decide if something is transphobic or not but TiP can tell you clear misogyny isn't misogyny and same w sexism

7. women aren't allowed female only online communities for any reason whatsoever even discussing female health, being lesbian, or sexual assualt, but TiP can have thousands and for anything reason even video game discussion or for their pets that are just for trans people

8. TiMs get to talk about porn fetishizing, dehumanizing, and degrading them and it's a serious issue many are disgusted with, reportable/bannable offense but women can stfu because porn doesn't hurt them whatsoever and literal abuse & rape porn is fine

9. cosmetic surgery for breast implants because you want it must be covered for transwoman so they don't experience "mental distress" and "affirm their identity" + it is "essentialal/life saving" but women experiencing pain every day of her life due to large breasts can't have reduction covered or performed or even get a referral because it's cosmetic surgery

Do you know of any others?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The things I cannot forget.

( moonlust45 )
This is why I don't feel empathy for TIMS. Straight men kills TIMS? Don't care. Violence between men is not women's problem. They are men. They can defend themselves. Feel insecure in men's bathroom? Don't care either. Feel afraid in men's prisons? Don't care. The lives of autogynephilic, entitled and narcissist males are not my problem. They threaten to kill us and dismember us just for not tolerating their bullshit. And nobody says nothing. I am glad that they are starting to date each other. If they would do the same with other things. For example, go together to men's bathroom, prisons, shelters, etc. And leave female spaces alone.

( Jane_Merrydaughter )
The attempt to memoryhole “popular transgenderism” is going to be epic.

It’s a case study of Internet-era ideological production, projection, and uptake, though. Way to cynically exploit the spirits of sisterhood and feminist inclusiveness.

Women had better name, discuss, document, archive, and remember this stunning and brave era of male supremacist campaigning, because WTF DUDES.

Never forget.

( Iota_Aurigae )
Archive, archive, archive! People are going to try to sweep their involvement under the rug and claim that they never had anything to do with it. It’s not hard to imagine that when we produce proof that they were involved, they’ll call us mean for calling them out and say that we should let the past go or something, that it was a mistake. That they were only following orders.

Regardless, we need to save as much as possible.

( RusticTroglodyte )
This will be discussed in future history classes right alongside the dancing epidemic and lobotomies

( Exempli_Gratia )
...and everyone will pretend they have no idea how it could possibly have happened. "How were people so stupid?" they will ask, and they will pretend they weren't the stupid, even though they were. It's all so fucking frustrating.

Re-enacterf, FemmeEtal & YesYourNigel #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The NHS says trans women should breastfeed babies. This is unforgivable. | The Spectator

( Re-enacterf )

I have some sympathy for these poor men. They’re driven mad by hormones and the mental strain of trying to believe they’re female. The people I have no sympathy for – only cold, vengeful loathing – are the activist medics of the NHS: doctors who have sworn to do no harm and should care for babies before all others, but who instead choose to prioritise the feelings of cross-dressing men.

I'm so glad to see this topic covered critically that I hate to quibble, but no. No sympathy for these men. They are pedophiles and they were mad before the estrogen. I understand the buck stops with the doctors, but these TIMs are no good.

( FemmeEtal )
Exactly. “Driven mad by hormones”? They weren’t force fed, they demanded estrogen that doesn’t belong in their bodies. They stole HRT from women in actual need of those hormones, created a new stigma around the use of HRT, bullied nurses and doctors, destroyed the medical community in general, tainted countless studies and data, and demanded tax payer money fund it all because their depression boner makes them unable to work. It’s entirely their doing and they aren’t victims, they are literally demanding it.

( YesYourNigel )
I think the person is saying that TIMs like this are traumatised by gender roles and so desperate to escape them through transitioning, which fucks with their heads even further by making them even more obsesses over maintaining a lie, while also suffering the effects of an artificially maintained hormonal imbalance. But yeah, when you start claiming your moob secretions are better at feeding babies, you are way past just being misguided.

You also can't go crazy from a hormonal imbalance. It will fuck with your emotional stability and can produce various issues, but these guys are already fueled by perceiving women as costumes and wanting to beat them at their own game. The emotional instability only makes them more unhinged, but it doesn't turn them into raging misogynists, they already were that coming it. Because they're men.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Why being Minority is considered virtuous ?
Look at TiMs in women's sports. They always cry they are being targeted despite being a minority. Why does being Minority warrants a free pass ?

Same thing happens with religious minorities who are a majority group in a lot of countries. We are supposed to turn a blind eye to their woman oppressing customs just because they are a minority here. That's it, that's the only justification.

Everyone can be a minority if you draw enough lines. Even among ethnic minorities, you could draw more likes based on their income levels.

The TiM argument I see a lot on reddit, like Why are they making laws to keep out just 2 or 3 trans girls UwU ffs

( Calidris )
I mean they say that, but they're not even consistent.

Trans are a minority so they must get special privileges to abuse women at their leisure.

Detrans people are a minority of a minority, so they should get extra extra special treatment, right? WRONG for some reason they get treated basically as badly as us TERFs. Probably because they're mostly women, but also because the religious zealot hates the apostate MUCH more than the infidel.

Also Jewish people are a minority, especially compared to the billions of muslims, but they're almost as hated as women are. Obviously Jewish women get the brunt of it.

Also minorities that don't behave in woke approved manner, like Asian people who despite discrimination perform often better than whites in the USA, lose their minority status and become "white adjacent".

( Misssarcasm )
Critical race theory turned into an easy black-and-white topic. Being a minority -> being oppressed. Oppression is evil -> majority is evil -> minority is good.

( MKatie )
Add on to that with the fact that people love labels. They want to be special, and a minority label can be seen to attention seekers as a “more important” label, since it allows them to be part of a special, small group that’s “inherently good” and deserves more for being so small and oppressed.

Edit: I should say that I don’t think all minority labels are inherently bad, in case it came off with that when I re-read it. Some do genuinely bring up injustices that should be changed, but in cases like TIMs it’s a total play for “special points”

stickyleaves , CupOfAbominations & brusquette #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: How do smart feminists fall for the gender theory?

( stickyleaves )
A smart feminist academic friend still believes in gender theory, I think because:

-being a successful adademic is super important to her identity and so she doesn’t want to die on that hill if it risks her career. I think this is a subconscious choice- she doesn’t want to dig into TERF-y things lest it shake the foundations, deep down I think she has some doubts (she used to talk about these to me a decade ago, now she wont acknowledge the doubts)

-she’s got your typical levels of self-doubt/imposter syndrome so is willing to assume that all the other smart lefties who are really into trans stuff must be right

-she moves in hip, “queer” circles and at least one close friend of hers has gone from lesbian to supposedly NB or trans. It’s much more convenient to believe her good friend is earnestly living their best life and fighting the good fight than that they’re an idiot in this very important way.

None of this excuses any of it, but I think this is where her head is at. I wasn’t in the cool club enough to peak her yet, but I think she will get there.

( CupOfAbominations )
I suppose it's similar to how a lot of great scientists and academics back in the day had to choose their battles, tiptoing around the established dogma of the Catholic Church so as not to be arrested for heresy like Galileo.

Nowadays, the repercussions are mostly social, but for anyone trying to establish themselves in academia, it's a cutthroat world. When professors are fired for stating basic biology, it's hard to blame them, even if it is cowardly.

( brusquette )
The same kernel that has women talking about how female on male sexual abuse isn't taken seriously, how toxic masculinity is bad for men too, how gender roles hurt so.

The expectation for women to be mother shows up in feminism as much as anything else. There's no other isms wherein activisms constituents are demanded to appeal to all, and to consider the oppressor harmed by the system.

People sneer at "white feminism" to sneer at all feminism. It is not that feminists are above reproach for issues of race, class, or other intersectionality. But merely that we don't call anything "men's civil rights movements" or "mens BLM" or "rich disability activism."

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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: How do smart feminists fall for the gender theory?

( shewolfoffrance )
I think smart people are better at rationalizing ideas that are plainly stupid, especially if not doing so would threaten their careers or social standing.

( LasagnaRossa )
Fun fact: in the same chapter she mentions TERFs and says that they are not real feminists. Lol. I can't even.

( Calidris )
5 years ago I would have said that a very compassionate and empathetic person could be bamboozled by the trans cult, especially if they only knew about the topic superficially.

Today though? Unless you've literally lived on the moon, I honestly have to say: if someone appears intelligent and believes in gender ideology, they're not actually intelligent at all, they probably just remember a bunch of superficially intelligent sounding buzzwords and catchphrases. The other possibility is that they profit from gender ideology and use it for the grift but privately do not believe in it.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Exactly. It's best to not presume they come with good intentions or should be too smart to fall for this crap.

Look at how they react when they're questioned. With threats, shunning, and even violence. What person with good intentions does that?

Most of these leftists are not good people. They are self-righteous bullies. That's how they fall for it. It's the latest trend to hop on to give them social clout, head pats, and sometimes even money.

It's time to end the myth of the well meaning trans activist.

( vulvapeople )
It grieves me to note that many people (maybe most) just believe whatever it is they're required to believe. This doesn't explain the early adopters, those women in academia and feminist circles who glommed on to TWAW when it was not at all a popular position. I think those women are functionally misogynists no matter what they call themselves.

But, now, reality denial for the benefit of a tiny minority of men (no one cares about TIFs) is the Correct Opinion that all Very Important and Smart People believe. I'm not sure what it's going to take to reverse that. If it ever happens, though, none of these people will offer a mea culpa or take any responsibility for the harms they've caused.

LasagnaRossa #transphobia ovarit.com

How do smart feminists fall for the gender theory?
I've just finished a book about gender roles, in particular the mother role and all its associates (the surrogate, the childfree, the childless, the regretted mother, the witch, etc). It's a very completed book and each role is dissected with intelligence and coherence.

And then here it comes, the chapter about trans motherhood. Suddenly all the premises are thrown out of the window and the same author who was able to describe patriarchy and the origin of the female discrimination, doesn't beat an eye when talking about pregnant TIFs and lactating TIMs.

TIFs claim oppression because when they enter the hospital they are called mothers. The author supports that and claims that they are real fathers because that's their identity and that society must accept that even a man can get pregnant. How. Why. How.

About TIMs, the author says that they are more interested in lactating their child rather than bear them. Lol. How she can't see the fetish behind this it's a mystery to me. Especially when she wrote so many paragraphs in the previous chapters about the fact that motherhood is not defined by lactation.

I really... I'm baffled.

This chapter kinda ruined the book to me, which is sad because otherwise it's a great book. I'm more sad that smart feminists fell for the gender trap. In my eyes it's similar to read a scientific book and then find a chapter all about God and its powers.

How can they fall for it? How can you support trans people's delusions on one hand and on the other hand pointing the finger that the root of all female discrimination is the ability to create life?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

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( IdentifyAsTired )
I need that meme of the goose chasing a man yelling "Where do the uteruses come from for uterus transplants? WHERE DO THE UTERUSES COME FROM?"

( pennygadget )
I scream this from the rooftop whenever these scrotes bring up uterus transplants

If they did this, they would need to source uteri from young, healthy women. And most young, healthy women don't want to throw away their fertility and put themselves into early menopause just so a man can be validated with a toy infant. So those uteri will likely be obtained through coercion and trafficking

( Spencer_Shayy )
If and when uterus transplants into men become a thing, y'all AGPs will die from it, and we won't have to deal with these rapists in wigs anymore.

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
I'm proudly transphobic. 😎

( LobselVith )
The delusion in thinking whatever they get down there with surgery is even remotely comparable to a vulva. Thing is, even if somehow they managed to make it look like a vulva, it still won't be one. EVER. Implanting a uterus in a body that is not supposed to be one doesn't make that a female body. Ever. No person having sex with you will be having sex with a woman. You're men no matter what. Forever.

( pennygadget )
Right. Because a TIM's necrotic crotch wound made from dick skin and/or bits of the colon is exactly the same as a real vagina. 🙄

Why can't these scrotes just fuck each other if we cissies are so transphobic?

( MiMi2013 )
"Bottom surgery"=turning normal healthy penis into a suppurating wound in no way analogous to an actual vagina/vulva-???? Who needs an excuse to not want to touch one with a 10' pole-?

No one is entitled to use another person's body for sex, no matter how HE identifies.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: She Finally Peaked

( syntaxerror )
I suspect she originally thought the same thing that most people did, that “trans women” were either intersex or effeminate gay twinks who could do no harm to women and just wanted to exist, bothering no one.

The rise of the AGPs has been impossible to ignore if you’re even slightly involved in the LGBTQWERTY community, and again the more exposure that this new wave of “trans woman” gets, the more people wake up! We need more Lia Thomases, more Dylan mulvaneys to be making headlines, because I promise you that it’s making reasonable people really go “wait a minute, this isn’t what I thought it was”

That, combined with the tsunami of lawsuits I see heading for shore, and I think there will be some mass peaking in the next 1-3 years. Go team!

( solitaire )
In my limited experience as a straight outsider looking in, the older a lesbian is, the less likely she is to be single/dating and therefore the less likely she is to have had her boundaries transgressed by AGP TIMs. (The invisibility of older women doesn’t seem to be limited to those of us who are straight.)

I think that’s why some of the most rabid TRAs I know are older (50+) lesbians, particularly those in long term relationships. They’re just not going to be personally impacted the way a young lesbian is, and it can take a long time for the scales to fall from their eyes.

Like your friend, it might only be when the TQ+ start encroaching on other aspects of their life: bathrooms, hospitals, sports, aged care, lesbian gatherings, women-only spaces etc. that they start to get uncomfortable and maybe reach peak trans.

Unfortunately, it’s part of human nature: people frequently do not care about important issues until they are personally affected.

( Eava )
That is a really good point. If you're past the age of going to bars and dating, you're probably not being told you're a homophobic bigot for not wanting to sleep with TIMs.

( Architectura )
Did she for sure know that transwomen = males? Because her initial response makes perfect sense if she (like many) assumes that transwomen = females.

Glad you peaked so many! Keep fighting the good fight, Sister!