(Shane is in a call with Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris on The Atheist Experience)
(Note: I have linked the full episode, starting where this snippet starts, for context if desired. A shorter version, containing only this, can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrfWs52Kjk0.)
Shane: Why is God so immoral?
Tracie: I don't know. Why don't you ask him? I would love to know why he's so freaking immoral.
Matt: I don't think that God exists, but if we're talking about the God character in the Bible, as God is represented--
Tracie: As he's written, it's horrible.
Matt: --it's a pretty horrible, jealous, angry being that advocates slavery. I don't know why he's that way, maybe he's just a dick.
Tracie: I said to somebody earlier today that you either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and says, When you're done, I'm going to punish you.
Shane: The child rape doesn't make you mad? I mean, do you hear about that and get angry? Yes or no?
Tracie: Do you get angry when you hear about a child rapist?
Shane: Well, so why shouldn't God get mad when he hears about evil in this world? Tell me that.
Matt: If there was a God and he heard about evil in this world, I think he should get mad.
Tracie: Well here's the thing, though, if I were in a situation where I could stop a child rapist, I would. That's the difference between me and your God.
Shane: Sorry, say that again?
Tracie: If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That's the difference between me and your God. He watches and says, "I'm shutting the door, and you go ahead and rape that child, and when you're done, I'm gonna punish you." If I did that, people would think I was a freakin' monster.
Shane: First of all, you portrayed that little girl as someone who's innocent, she's just as evil as--
Tracie: Oh, I was thinking it was a little boy, so...
Matt: (hangs up) Bye.
Tracie: So, children deserve to get raped, there's your--
Matt: Goodbye. Goodbye, you piece of shit!
Tracie: And I would like to just say that, well, let me just say, I was raised in a different Christianity, and it was a better one.
Matt: Yeah. You know what, I was a better Christian than you when I was a Christian, and I still am.