The reality is that not only can't scientists prove things 'absolutely,' they can't prove anything period. The selection of one theory as an explanation over another is purely arbitrary.

It would be hard to imagine a more inverted view of reality. *Evolution* (!?) is a compelling explanation for biology? You've got to be kidding. Have you been living in a cave or something?

Europeans in general were singled out, and the reasons are contained in the talmud, 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,' etc.

[On the "Crying" Virgin Mary in Sacramento, 'For men who have been seeing hoaxes like this for years, an explanation is impossibly easy.']

Hoax? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all the time. Do you think that Christians are morons who will believe everything and anything they are told?

Because sin is a crime, and must be punished. Why is shoplifting illegal? Its a free country isn't it?

Answer me this, if the Bible contradictions represent such a clear proof of its unworthiness, then why is it that scholars on both sides of the fence continue spending entires lives investigating the matter? You don't see anyone spending their life investigating the phlogiston theory or the blood humors theory any more, do you?

Fraid so, it shows that the problem is probably anti-semitism on [Jewish Bible scholar Richard] Friedman's part.

Tell me, you all knowing atheist non creationists, how did the primordial soup decide what an eye would look like or how it should function or an ear or a nose?

How did the primordial soup determine that there should be millions of different species of fish, fowl and mammal etc? and what they should look like, act, behave, build nests etc. etc. etc.?

How did just two microscopic thingamajigs get together and say, Hey, we need to make an elephant! Yes, and this is how it should look. Let's give it huge ears, eyes, a trunk for a nose, tusks etc.? Then two other microscopic thingamajigs also got together and decided that there needs to be monkeys. Then to more and this went of until there were millions of pairings of two thingamajigs that each decided to make an entirely separate animal.

What you in fact are doing is deifying the primordial soup. Maybe you atheists should worship pond skum?

Delusion is believing in something in the face of contrary evidence...all the evidence shows us that what the current evidence shows is not the actual truth, it also shows us that an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and that there are many things that are true that there is no evidence for....yet atheists do not believe these things anyway....

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Ah, speaking in tongues. Glossolalia. "Strings of meaningless syllables made up of sounds taken from those familiar to the speaker and put together more or less haphazardly".

For the millions of other Christians babbeling nonsense and deceiving themselves - yes. But I claim to be perhaps the only Christian who can speak a proper language I don't understand. Listen to it at http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/TongueSpeaker

[Arguing against genetic algorithms and evolution]

Think about it for a minute: Software does not exist on the computer, but rather in the minds of software engineers.

(On 14-16 year olds getting pregnant)

It is beneficial for dumb fucks to be forced to live with the consequences of their dumb fuckery.

If I were an atheist...

I'd live a life of debauchery and then commit suicide.

You are the Professer. In your knowledge of the hand/biology/medicine what is a specific gain from an evolutionary premise that has progressed the hand medicine.
Of coarse I think there has been nothing and evolution has just hitched a ride on actual biologists achievments.

Well, let me ask you a question.

If there really is no evidence for creationism, why would creationists insist there is? They can find evidences of the biblical flood and other such Bible claims, but why do they? Could it be because there is evidence? If there was ABSOLUTELY NONE, why do they make good cases about the age of fossils and such things?

[Did any part of "Internet Infidels" tip you off that "godliness" might not be an important standard of behavior here?]

thats no reason not to be godly

Hello Atheists, I am inclined to tolerate you people and must say that atheism is not inherently offensive to me.

You atheist types are such hypocrites. Anytime a theists says something they believe, atheist say, 'but it doesn’t say that'. But when they pull some cockeyed crap out of their hat to ask a question as absurd as 'was Jesus gay?' they want to twist stuff every which way they can. And even still you have others thinking he was married. 'But—but—his mom told him they were out of wine at a wedding. It had to be his wedding.' 'Well—well—he was Jewish, and most Jewish are married.' 'But, Mary Magdelen hung around him a lot. She must have been his girl.' Puullleeeassee. I swear, you atheists will do anything to pervert the truth. And you wonder why you are despised by most of society.

[Replying to 'Homosexuality does not hurt people']Tell that to the woman who comes home to find her husband in bed with another man.

The divorce courts are full of women trying to get divorces simply because they have commited adultery (or converted to lesbianism) and want to be rid of their husbands. Desire takes precedence over reason. Men know they should not grant divorces to women under such circumstances. But they do. Its called 'SIN'.

[Replying to a sarcastic "The Official Atheist Handbook takes no position on Jesus' sexuality"]You mean there is an official atheist handbook? So it has become a religion...thats incedible. Sorry about that last post, it just kind of steamed me a little. My brother tried to stop me. I guess Vinnie is so infatuated with the idea[of a gay Jesus], because he himself may be gay. I wasn't thinking of that. My appologies.

[When the actor in Mel Gibson's movie about Jesus got struck by lightning twice in a row]...being hit twice, on the same set, and 2 different times relatively close to each other is beyond astronomical. I know atheists love to dismiss astronomically rare events as mere coincidences, but being struck by lightning while playing the most controversial character, in the most controversial movie ever made, and walking away with barely a scratch both times is beyond coincidence.

Certainly adultery should be made a criminal offence, possibly punishable by death, at the instigation of the husband.

[Derailing a thread on a support forum]Its no joke! Atheists are not prepared to give advice on how to live one's life.

It is not a fallacy to argue that a proposition which is widely held to be true despite lack of definite knowledge is more likely to be true than a proposition which is not as widely held to be true despite lack of definite knowledge. Like betting on the popular horse.

Second, the Bible is very clear and consistent in this message; there is no one born free from the stain of sin. In other words, there are no innocent children in the sight of God. Third, God was not punishing the people of Egypt insomuch as he was redeeming the Israelites. (A means to an end) This is another clear and consistent message found throughout the bible; any redemption of sin must be done by bloodshed (Death).

No one has ever apologized to me for calling my beliefs a lie or the Holy Word of God a myth and a lie, but what the heck I want to be reasonable and peaceable. However, I'm going to make an exception this time. I believe you should call a spade a spade. I am not attacking Sven or you personally in any way and I hope you know this but I believe there are certain aspects of the theory that are very elaborate lies. Lies that even great minds like yours and christians like the man you mentioned get caught up in. Lies that have some empirical evidence to back them up. Lies that in many cases make so much sense its incredible, but if it isn't totally true then the very fabric and weave of the whole thing is a lie. A lie thats designed to lead mens minds away from the very creator of the universe. The most effective deception is ones that contains 90% or more of pure truth and just enough falsehood to be able to dismiss them off hand as inconsiquential (ms)

Slapping a name on a phenomena only gives dull people the illusion of perception. Call our minds what you will, consciousness (which for all I know resides in my big toe), not my brain, is a spiritual function that speaks of The Word.

And there won't be organ music playing [during the Rapture] - it will be trumpets ( and im not even sure unbelievers will be able to hear them).

atheism is impossible you could not possably know that god isnt real if god is everywhere at once when you walk in the room he could of left in to the next one. you would have to be every where at once to know that god isnt real in other words youd have to be god. im not trying to insult any one. but just giving some logic

I think I have the point, the point that Evolution Theory is not reallly based on natural explanation but in supernatural explanation.

In science, we have OCCAM'S RAZOR and science is using it to choose the simplest and best and most fit explanation, BUt in science it doesn't have, I call it, SAMURAI'S RAZOR, distinguishing scientific explanation from naturalistic to supernatural.

If we have this SAMURAI'S RAZOR, we could help our science to maintain its goal to stay always in naturalistic explanation.

Penis and vagina as proof of God? I know it seems vague but think about it. The penis can pee and have semen come out of it. Only a good designer can make it this way. Did it just "evolve" this way? How is that even possible? It is complex. The way babies are made is truly beautiful. Do you think there is no God after watching a baby grow and develop in the womb? How can it just evolve like that?

I imagine there was quite a bit of debris floating around [during Noah's flood] for insects to survive on.

I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt, so I checked it [the huge <A href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/">'29 Evidences for Macroevolution'</A> article at TalkOrigins] out. Now, you tell me why that page gives only opinions and no evidence. All it did was proclaim evidence. Using things like...'The honest scientist, like the philosopher, will tell you that nothing whatever can be or has been proved with fully 100% certainty, not even that you or I exist, nor anyone except himself, since he might be dreaming the whole thing.'LOL...not honest ones, but bias atheistic ones trying to cover their a$$, yes.Or... 'There is so much evidence in support of this [people evolving from whatever] aspect of primate evolution that it qualifies as a fact by any common definition of the word 'fact.' No facts. No references to support these supposed facts given as opinion. In 'fact' many of the claimed human fossil bones that supported such dribble have been proven to be fakes or hoaxes. And any found genuine human fossil remains have contradicted the theory of evolution. Many of them even taken out of museums to save embarrassment.

If they [his views] are so unsupported, why have I received all of these angry replies? Why be angry at someone for being wrong? Think about this for a moment. If I am wrong, I deserve pity and not hatred/disdain... The fact that I receive the latter is very telling indeed.

Claims? ok call it what you want and believe what you want to believe.As I and about 1 and half other billion muslims will believe in what we know its true... Can you see gravity?Can you see the air? You dont see them but that doesnt mean they are not there.

What do you mean? The egyptians and the chinese were destroyed by the flood to pay for their sins.

The Biblical writers stated that they were speaking for God. Since you have no evidence that they were lying, we can take them to be telling us the truth.

We are all something that you are not and never will be: evolved members of the best people ever to grace this Earth. That is the truth. Eat it.

(Towards a poster recently emigrated from Britain to Canada)

Welcome to Canada. I'm actually opposed to any more immigration (after you) especially peoples unlikely to assimulate. That is third world peoples but also Europeons. Also generally the more different from true Canadians in colour, religion, heritage etc the worst. Most true Canadians would agree with me in Southern Ontario. Its quite bad now. Oakville is a very Canadian area and not ethnic at all.
John Tory said some creationism could be allowed is what I heard.
The search for truth should be allowed in schools. As a foreighner I hope you have full respect for the Canadian peoples desire. After all since you are inheriting our achievment and society you owe us.

['I thought that Schiavo was in a vegetative state.']

I thought that having club feet is not worthy of being kept alive.

Again, Schiavo was only the beginning. If you think that a "vegetative state" is not worthy of life, then why should a person with club feet be allowed to live?

BTW... Schiavo was not in a "vegetative state". Such a term is deplorable, and is Himmlerian.

I don't like the word evolve but rather adapt.
Yes I think adaptation takes place instantly. Dolphins would of gone from land to sea in say five years after the flood.
The evidence that creatures change from one state to another is excellent. Only the mechanism and time is a problem.
I believe that marsupials are just the same creatures as elsewhere on the planet. So important, if minor, change can take place quickly. As long as a creature stays within its kind. Whatever that is.
The verse in the bible is correctly interpretated as giants of the deep and not whales.

Could you people at least make a tiny effort to understand the one religion you bash endlessly? How do you expect to ever persuade anyone out of ignorance?

When we got to the [Mexican] border, it was raining and really gloomy outside. I prayed for some sunshine for the duration of my stay in my mom's hometown. When we finally did get there, it was sunny and the sky was blue with only a few clouds. It stayed that way until the day I left. That morning, it began to rain and the sky became cloudy again. There isn't any rational explanation I can offer as to why this happened, but it did happen.

LOOK: Naturalistic science had already labeled humans as animals, why not ask every human if they really evolve or created or not? If both nature and species (except humans) can't talk, why bother to make them as standard in changes of species?! HUMANS can talk, can express themselves...then, ask them. If they all say that they had evolved from lower forms of animals, then, it is natural that humans are the product of evolution process! Then, Evolution is really natural.

Just because I do not think like you does not mean your way is the ONLY way to think NOR the RIGHT way.

I suggest world peace will never be achieved as long as talking and praying "annoys the hell" out of atheists.

Also, this usually makes me think the bible must be true, as why would people argue so vehemently against that which they feel confidently is untrue? Thankyou for increasing my faith.

You Athiests really can't handle the truth can ya. Move my thread, close my thread, and worse CAN'T ANSWER MY THREAD... how just and fair of you ATHIESTS or if I'm not spelling it write, I'll call you what the Bible rightly calls you FOOLS.

Why a big bang, why not just a bang, or a little bang... why couldn't the bang be the size of a pea. Why wouldn't the bang keep on banging, what set the paramerters of the size of this bang for it to be any size that it can be claimed to be a big bang or is that claim false, if its false why claim it to be a big bang. Sounds like a bit of spice put on something to sell me something... Well i aint buying it. i'm sure there are a lot of fools that have.