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ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Personally, I believe many of the trolls who come here are not atheists, as they claim, but really are sad little child-like people who know they are in rebellion to God and are miserable because of it. I believe you come to this site because there is something deep inside you that yearns to know the truth, yet you squelch that yearning and turn back to the world. Truly, I have pity for you. If the internet had been what it is today when I was a teen, I shudder to think what the devil would have done with me. I cringe at the thought of what I would have become

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Some people have described pornography as the only form of safe sex. This is a lie. Though the odds of catching a disease through the use of pornography are lower than they are when compared to other illicit sexual activities, the one who uses pornography is just as subject to the judgment of God as the one who physically engages in illicit sexual activities.

Bro. Randy #sexist teens-4-christ.org

Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Jesus is plainly saying that if a man looks at a woman and lusts after her, he has committed adultery with her already. One of the definitions of 'with' is: So as to be touching or joined to. The clear point is that Jesus is saying they are both guilty of adultery. The reason for the man's guilt is obvious. The woman's guilt is not as clear. She has set a trap for him - she has enticed him.

[snip]

Now, the sad thing is: the average, seemingly moral high school girl is more revealing in her attire than the harlot of Proverbs 7. Even more sad is the fact that these girls are causing men around them to commit adultery with them by the way they dress.

Bro Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Any physical contact between a dating couple that is an expression of affection is sexual in nature and causes feelings of desire that cannot be legitimately fulfilled outside of marriage. Because a desire that cannot be legitimately fulfilled outside of marriage (lust) is created, that contact is a sin. This means that a kiss between a dating couple, outside of marriage, is a sin.

CarolinaBaptistLady #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I do not believe in going to movie theaters! In my own opinion, I think it is dangerous! Think about, you are in a dark room where anyone can grab you and do horrible things to you.

Also, the commercials that advertise movies that are soon to be let out are full of sin. No Christian who lives for the LORD has any business going there!

Mrs. Debbie #fundie #racist teens-4-christ.org

(Also fits in RSTDT)
Obviously God made different races for a reason so why would He want one race to be the same as another? Yes, Adam was created in the likeness of God....the rest of us are all in the similtude of Adam. He made each race different and in order for that race to remain the way He created it then each race needs to stay within themselves.

I don't know about your church, but our church has all kinds of people - whites, blacks, hispanics.....American, Indian, Romanian, Polish, African, Guyanese, etc, etc...... We all go to the same church. We all sing praises to God together. We all hear preaching together. If THAT is not racial harmony then what is? When it comes to salvation we ARE all equal in the sight of God. ALL are sinners and must come to Him in repentance and faith.

As for the interracial dating - we have covered that somewhere here on the Board before - and it is wrong biblically. Please do a search to find that topic.

Mrs. Kellie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

It doesn't get any plainer than..."The evening and the morning was the first day"

If the sun was out for a few billion years, and then the night was a few billion years....it would be kinda hard to sustain life of any kind that way....huh?(IMG:http://www.teens-4-christ.org/board/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

God created the world in 6 literal days....evening and the morning constituted each day. There is no way around that if you believe that the Bible is the inherrant word of God. You can't try to incorporate a theory without changing what God said....and changing what God says is heresy.


Mrs. Kellie

katyanne #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Oh by the way, who is responsible for this instance: a little girl is in public school and the school dictates the uniform and it is a short skirt and a shirt. The girls Christian parents don't argue with the school but send her to school in the uniform. The girl gets sexually abused. Was it her fault or her parents fault?

Katy-Anne

Bro Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[committed4ever posts asking how to make friends with an atheist at her school. Yemenal responds, "Just be a friend to her. You can't MAKE her believe, any more than she can CHOOSE to believe. Faith isn't a choice."]

We've already discussed how you should not befriend someone who is an athiest. You, as a Christian, cannot be unequally yoked together with an unbeliever.

Now, on to the second issue. Having faith is most certainly a choice. You choose to believe the chair you are sitting in will hold you up. You choose to believe the bridge you drive under will not fall, and you choose whether you will trust Jesus or not. Really, it is easier to trust God than it is to trust the chair or the bridge. Things made by man will fail.

God will never fail!

Bluegrass Girl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I just wanted to see what everyone's thought was on this. Recently, we have had to switch churches due to some changes and compromising in our church. When we started looking for a new church, we realized that they were only about 4 in the whole state of Missouri that was still a solid church. We then started looking at other church website's around the coutry that are/were solid, independent baptist churches, it seemed as if they had changed. We would look at the photo galleries, and see mixed swimming, youth activites with teens dressed immodestly, and even contemporary concerts. What is happening?

We even looked at a so-called indpendent baptist church in Texas where they recently had a contemporary artist singing in their church! The pastor of this church is very well known, and it was a big dissapointment to me. The pastor is still preaching in large conferences at good churches today.
It seems that even colleges are changing by adding water parks and surf teams to their campus. Are we at Bible college to serve God and learn about the Bible or are we here to get away from mom and dad and have some fun? It appears that volleyball teams now wear shorts to play in, whereas 10 years ago they were still in cullotes, and I don't mean loose fitting shorts. I recently heard Bro. Tony Hutson preach "Old Time Religion" and it was such a blessing to me. He mentioned that churches would still be prospering and souls being saved, if we still had the old time religion. I guess they think the old time religion is just too "old" for this generation.
Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems like it's happening around the country.

Evangelist #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[I hate to play the devils advoc------ no, no wait, i love to play the devils advocate! the bible is violent to. Killing kings, entire populations(Jericho, Ai, etc............) stoning ur kid if he talks back........]


true, but all that was comanded by God.

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Quite the contrary. When you joined, you did, in a very limited way, submit yourself to my authority within the scope this forum. In addition, I have been called by God and commissioned by my church to preach the Gospel. God tends to frown on those who disparage His anointed. Psa 105:14-15 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; (15) Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

katyanne #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Christ's Servant, you seem to be saying that we need to let the secular government let these people have their rights. But see, God never designed for there to be a secular government. THe government is supposed to be under the authority of God, and therefore what God says should go. And because God says that sodomy is wrong, the government should not allow it to happen

RoCk_StAr_29818 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I don't mean to be mean but Darwin's gone loco [winking smiley] [confused smiley] [laughing smiley] I mean we didn't "evolve" from monkeys. Evolution is a major topic in my younger youth group,my friend says "If we "evolved"why aren't there any new humans walking outta the Birmingham Zoo?" which I think we need to ask the Scientists that question.Any comments? biggrin.gif

Emphasis added

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

(Also, without Catholicism where would be the Baptist religion?)

Well, let's see...
There'd be a few million fewer martyrs
The Bible would have been in the hands of the people much sooner
The population of hell would likely be much smaller
People's perception of Christianity would not be as warped.

Tiger #fundie teens-4-christ.org

More importantly than all the other reasons as to why I don't want a girlfriend is because I am waiting on the Lord to bring me a wife. Courtng is the safest way to go, so you won't do things you shouldn't do if you are not married. I know I am not the best person to give advice, but I will be praying for you.

Ashleigh #fundie teens-4-christ.org

there is a person my Dad went to college with (at PCC) and he opened this theme park type place called Dino land (or something like that), for Christains who beleive how God actually created the earth (the Biblical way!). There, they actually FOSSILIZED a teddy bear.

What does this tell you about science now?

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[Randy's response to a poster saying the US isn't a Christian Nation]

FACT: The original settlers who came to America were Bible-believers looking to escape the religious persecution of the Catholic church and the Church of England
FACT: The majority of the men who created the government of this nation were men who worshiped God.
FACT: SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE is a myth that occurs nowhere in the Constitution of the United States. The first amendment of the Constitution has been misinterpreted by atheists who want to dissolve any form of Christian worship in the United States. The First Amendment says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Among other things, this amendment says that the congress cannot make a law stating that everyone must be a Baptist. This amendment also says that the congress cannot make a law which restricts free exercise of religion. In other words, they cannot make a law which says it is illegal for you to witness to someone at school. This amendment does not say that a government may not, for example, post the ten commandments on public property or endorse a prayer at the beginning of a meeting of some kind. In fact, both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court all start their sessions with an opening prayer.
FACT: Both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court all start their sessions with an opening prayer.
FACT: The most common pieces of material printed by our Government (currency) contains the phrase "In God We Trust"
FACT: Even today, in the face of overwhelming media bias which would lead us to believe otherwise, and the corresponding revision of history more than 80% of the population of the United States professes to be Christian (I personally do not believe this number to represent the number of people in the US who are saved).
FACT: Since the creation of the Judicial system (excluding recent actions of the ACLU), anyone who testified in a court of law had to swear an oath before God to tell the truth with their hand on the Bible.
FACT: The Word of God is used in conjunction with some oath whenever a public official is sworn into office.

I could continue, but anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that this is a CHRISTIAN NATION!

Bro. Randy #sexist teens-4-christ.org

The only men you should ever be alone with are: your father and your husband. NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE should you be alone with a man. Second, you should never allow a man to touch you. If it is making you feel uncomfortable, that is an even stronger warning sign.

CraneFlight #fundie teens-4-christ.org

If Evolution Was Real... we probably wouldn't exist. Think about it. If there was no God...what would be the point of developing the wide variety of emotions that humans have? I mean, our emotions, a lot of times, don't lend well to the survival of our species. People are thinkers that can choose not to have children, have only a few, take a few years break in between having children, etc.

An animal that is able to reproduce will always do so if given the chance - even if reproduction always results in death for the mother, father, or both!

If humans thought like animals, we'd all have a baby every year with the first available person regardless of circumstances because survival of the species is most important.

Of course God commands us to be fruitful and multiply but...well, if our complex emotions actually decrease our productivity as a species...what's the point? To make us closer to God! God gave us the gift of emotion (not that animals don't have emotions, but not like humans of course) to make humans - made in His image - distinctly separate from the other creatures of the Earth. That's proof enough of God for me! PTL!

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

The universal flood and the Ark of Noah cause problems for you because you deny the Word of God and choose not to exercise faith in God.

Why does 2+2=4? Who knows. It just does. How did God assemble all the animals and feed them? Well, God knows, but then again, He's God. There are a number of possible explanations, but listing them would be pure speculation. The simple fact is that you have chosen to not believe in the written account of history.

Disciple #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[At my school, a new girl has come. .. She visits a local homeless shelter, dresses modestly, hasn't ever had a boyfriend and wants to save herself for marriage, does her homework, and is really kind and considerate. She doesn't drink or do drugs, and doesn't like parties. The only problem is, she's atheist.]

Being an atheist, she has no real reason to stick with her moral beliefs, yet it seems as if she's doing a good job at it so far. With peer pressure and without God, it's very likely that she could fall into sin, but it's a lot less likely if you're there to be a good Christian influence in her life.

bluegrass girl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

(on speaking in church)

I have mixed feelings about this. I'm all for a woman singing in church (I do). I'm not even against a woman saying amen in church. But, when it gets to the point that she is over-bearing her husband, and not being of a meek and quiet spirit, then I think it can get excessive. Maybe I have just had a bad expierence with this topic.
My church is very exciting with lots of amens and shouting. But, there was a lady in our church that was literally shouting and "out-shouting" the men while her husband was sitting on the end of the pew looking bored. Obviously she is the spiritual leader in the home. If not, it sure appeared that way.

Marksman #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[In response to the question: What about the fish? I would think that they stayed in water, and weren't taken onto the ark, but sea fish need saltwater, freshwater fish need freshwater, and when the flood came, all the water would have mixed, and become brakish. Very few fish can survive this.]

This can probably be described in many ways, but one way it would work is that salt water is more dense then fresh water, so when they are mixed the salt water sinks to the bottom, and the fresh water stays on top. So when the flood happened, the bottom half of the earth was salt water, and the top half was fresh water. I am sure many fish died, but enough of them survived by staying in their type of water(top or bottom) to reproduce after the flood.

Our good mate Brother bloody Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Yes, it does matter. Simply, if you cannot muster the faith to believe Genesis 1:1, you cannot have the faith to believe John 3:16 or Rom 10:13. The Bible is either completely true or completely false.

The myth of evolution is merely another lie concieved by the father of lies to turn people away from the Bible and decieve them.

This is why we absolutley must contend for the entire Word of God - we cannot move on any little part. When we do move, we're allowing the devil to win.

[By the way, when I went to the site, it tried to run some program on my computer. Might be dodgy, might not be, I don't know. But since it's Randy's site, I thought it best to tell it to piss off.]

mandy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

After the flood the atmosphere of the earth was dramatically changed . Before the Flood the earth's atmosphere had a "greenhouse" effect because of the canopy of water surrounding it. Three major things happened after the Flood: the canopy of water was gone, harmful rays of the sun entered the atmosphere, & man and animals began eating meat. Earth experienced many atmosphere and climate changes, and because of that many animal species - including dinosaurs - died and became extinct.

Brother Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Well, first, let's clarify what the admin's definition of a 'testimony' or 'testify' is! When I speak of a lady testifying, I am speaking of her praising the Lord for something the Lord has done for her in her life. i.e., this is what the Lord did for me.

As for why it is wrong for a woman to 'preach' in church, we need only look to the qualifications for a bishop (pastor):
1 Tim 3:2-7 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; (3) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; (4) One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (5) (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) (6) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. (7) Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
One of the qualifications is 'husband of one wife'. This qualification eliminates several groups of people:
Unmarried the pastor must be a husband! This means that unmarried men are not qualified!
Remarried the pastor must be the husband of one wife. This means he cannot be divorced and remarried.
Women No matter how hard she may try, a woman cannot be a woman.


As for the other positions some women have taken in churches, the passages from Paul are on point. The Bible is not extreme, it is our guide.

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

There are three reasons (at least) that shorts on ladies are immodest:

1. Isa 47:2-3 Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers. (3) Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man. According to this passage, revealing the thigh (the part of your leg above your knee) is revealing your nakedness. That is immodest in it's purest sense.
2. Many young ladies like to wear men's walking shorts. Though these are often long enough to cover the thigh, they still are "men's pants", an abomination.
3. Men's walking shorts reveal the form of the lady's body. Again, this is immodest.

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

By the way: true purity goes much further than just the medical definition of a virgin. Purity is a physical condition which includes that definition, but it is also a state or condition of the heart which includes much more than not touching someone romantically. It includes not allowing yourself to lust after someone, give your heart away to someone who is not going to be your husband or wife, not touching people in a romantic way, etc.

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

If the music sounds like the world, if the performers do not have a testimony of loving and serving God or if the performers do not show a testimony of being separate from the world, you should not listen to it or support the performer.

ImaSaved1 (Bro Randy) #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Emmanuel, I hate to take the draconian act of deleting an entire post. However, your last post was all quotes from a woman who is a self-proclaimed 'prophetess' and from a group of people who have several doctrines and practices which do not agree with the Word of God (claiming to be a prophetess, and a woman preaching to men, for example).

Mrs. Kelly #fundie teens-4-christ.org

The focus of courting is on marriage, not on just finding someone to have a good time with, and breaking up (which is practice for divorce) at the drop of a hat.

The parents are completely involved and actively counseling the couple.

The couple is chaperoned and never completely alone to maintain a high standard of purity.
This doesn't mean that they don't have any privacy, but that there is someone close by to help them keep a good testimony,
and "abstain from all appearance of evil".

imasaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

*The staff of a Japanese aquarium was able to take rare pictures of a frilled shark on Sunday, after it was discovered by local residents at Awashima Port in Shizuoka, southwest of Tokyo.

This prehistoric shark is rarely seen alive as its natural habitat lies up to 4,200 feet under the sea.

Experts at the Awashima Marine Park were able to examine the creature, which was a female, and film it swimming around.

Unfortunately, it died a couple of hours after it was moved to its new environment.

The eel-looking shark, with its mouth full of 300 trident-shaped teeth, measured 5.3 feet long and weighed about 16.5 lbs.

Frilled sharks normally inhabit deep sea waters between 400 and 4,200 feet and rarely come to the surface.

However they have been seen near the coast of Japan before, especially during the winter when the water temperature drops and they have to get to warmer areas to feed.

Frilled sharks can grow to a length of nearly 6.5 feet and eat deep-sea squids and other soft-bodied preys.

Most specimen are found in the Japanese waters.*

As we get closer and closer to end times and the resurrection of the church, I expect we will see more and more evidence proving evolution to be a myth.

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

It is amazing how the Bible agrees with itself. Just today, a brother and I were making rounds getting food for the dinner for the bus kids. At the chicken restaurant (we got 300 pieces of chicken for the bus kids and workers), as we were loading the chicken into the church van, a man approached us begging. It was obvious he had not eaten, and judging by his shakes, it was obvious he wanted more wine. He explained how he needed money because he had no job. We gave him a meal in the restaurant and offered to contact the rescue mission. We explained how the mission would give him a warm bed, three meals a day, clean clothes, etc. We also explained to him that he would be expected to work, attend church and attend chapel twice a day. He wanted no part of the work and chapel. In fact, while the brother I was with was getting his meal, I sat down with him and tried to share the Gospel of Christ. He wanted no part of that either. He just kept telling me how didn't have a job and how he needed money. My guess is that he wanted money for wine. Biblically, he has no right to eat until he works for his food. I am sick of people claiming that the church should meet the needs of everyone in the community who begs. It is the obligation of the church to take care of the brethren - those who are in the church who are serving God.

(Nice try, Bro. Randy, but Matthew 25:31-46 disagrees.)

Ol' Bro Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Personally, I do not like ear-rings on guys at all. That has it roots in homosexuality and rebellion.

As for the rest of the piercings and body modifications (lips, noses, cheeks, and everything else), they are all symbolic of rebellion. I do not see anything wrong with a lady having pierced ears, and small ear rings, but beyond that anything else quickly becomes immodest.

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[A T4C poster asks whether people in isolated countries who have never heard of Jesus will go to hell when they die.]

The simple answer is this: Everyone who has ever drawn a breath is accountable to God, even if they have never heard the name 'Jesus'.

[Bible verses snipped]

Since you asked the question, I am sure you are now wondering why. To us, something like this may not appear fair to us, but you must remember that everything around you was created by God and declares HIS glory. In fact, not only can we see the hand of God in our surroundings, we know the law of God as it is written on our heart.
[more verses]

Have you ever wondered why a child accepts salvation and the reality of God so easily? From the womb, man knows of God. However, as a man grows, he is often re-programmed to dis-believe the Word of God. Literally, kids are taught to NOT believe in God.

As for the people who are in isolated parts of the world, people who do not have a Bible or hear the name of Jesus, they are still accountable for the light they have received and for the knowledge of God written on their heart.

Smileyto #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I didn't know where else to put it, so I thought I would put it here. The other night I was watching a moveie about creation vs. evolution. I learned a lot of stuff. Creation says eating the right foods can fight diseases and Evolution says taking medicines will. it might not have been worded exactly like that, but it was close.

Beth

Bella #fundie teens-4-christ.org

INTERESTING FACT

1the sun shrinks 2 feet everyday!!!
therefore if the world were more then 5000 years old the earth would have been burned up
BECAUSE THE SUN WOULD of been SO CLOSE!!!

2 some of the planets have layers of ice
so the world cant be more then 5000 years old or the ice would have already melted!!!

and so many other scientific facts!!
that proves tha evolution is not true!!