( WitchPlease )
I highly doubt that any woman would allow her porn sick brother to feed toxic discharge to her kids. This is a disgusting fantasy.
There you people go again with the “toxic discharge”… sounds like you’re having a bit of a disgusting fantasy yourself!
Milk is milk; as long as you have developed enough milk glands and can produce enough, you’ll do fine. The reason actual men can’t do it is not because they’re some alien species; it’s because their breasts / milk glands aren’t developed enough, and they don’t have the right hormonal mix.
But with trans women, that can be adjusted.
Oh, also, kindly provide studies and evidence which show that trans women who lactate actually produce toxic discharge rather than, you know, human milk. Being such proud Rational Freethinking Ideology-Free people with Evidence-Based™ views as you keep reminding us, I’m sure you have several dozen studies you can give just off the top of your head, and more yet in your bookmarks!
( NastasyaFillipovna )
I highly doubt most women would even know what "Hormones" in what dosage to get to help with lactation.
That’s why we have something called “endocrinologists”, you know. It’s an occupation which exists, and these people know about things like that. I know, mind-blowing!
These TiMs don't get it, what is a natural process for women is a chemically induced freak thing to a male body, and when something similar is done to animals, it would be considered animal abuse
Um, honey, I guess nobody told you, but there’s this thing called ‘informed consent’ which animals by definition can’t give. Meanwhile, trans women who lactate or breastfeed do so quite willingly.
( Uber )
No fucking way did this EVER happen. I can never imagine any situation where a woman would allow anyone else to breastfeed her child, certainly not a man.
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you?
Here’s a hint: look up the term “wet nurse” on Wikipedia. It’ll blow your world.
Also, what do you think women might have done before milk banks were a thing? Say, women who had difficulty or were unable to breastfeed, the sort of difficulties many women face even today? And remember, in centuries and millennia past, medical solutions to such problems were far more limited, if any even existed. So, in those days, if they wanted their children fed with milk, it had to be done by… other women.
There's no way in hell that even if this DID happen (which it did not), there would be any nutrients to speak of, unless we're considering unnatural synthetic chemicals nutrients, now? I can't keep up.
Ah, the classic “I have no idea what I’m talking about but I know that chemicals = bad & unnatural!!”
Oh, and let me draw it for you like you’re five: Hormones stimulate milk production, whether the hormones are self-made or introduced into the body. The milk is basically the same if the hormones are basically the same. The body is stimulated -> the body produces nutrients in the breasts.
Congratulations! You, a grown woman, have just received your “Babby’s First Intro to Breastfeeding”!
Next Up: “How is Babby Made?”
…Heeeey, folks, I just got an idea! Listen up, ’cause this seems to be an untapped market :D
It’s called “Sex Ed for TERFs”. They obviously need it, and it seems like nobody is taking care of this demographic. After all, it looks like they either overslept or never even had this stuff in school, so they need some remedial classes.
( CupOfAbominations )
I'm relieved that this is probably 99.9% fanfiction, but this is so gross to read. No sane mother would put her newborn's health at risk to validate her weirdo TIM brother's delusions. It's all about him, all about his "biology dysphoria" without any concern over what would be best for the baby! Surely a naturally lactating mother's milk would be the most nutritious thing for the baby than whatever gross milky discharge is coming from his nipples!
I’ll give you this: it does seem like a strange story. But there’s no mention in it that the mother didn’t breastfeed at all; just that her trans sister did. It’s perfectly possible both of the sisters were doing it.
Yeah, I doubt that many cisgender sisters would be okay with having this sort of arrangement with their trans sister, but there are always exceptions.
One thing about the story that raised my eyebrows is this part: “I had to stay with my sister so my energy would feed off her hormones and I could build prolactin with her.”
It just doesn’t work that way. Starting milk production has nothing to do with your “energy” feeding off somebody else; that’s just a woo belief.
Other than that… from what i know of the subject (note: not an expert!), this story makes at least basic sense when it comes to inducing lactation. You need progesterone to prepare your breasts for breastfeeding, then before you aim to start lactating, you need to pretty much stop taking progesterone and also reduce your estrogen (estradiol) dosage, because those two inhibit milk production, and you might also need to take prolactin in addition to stimulating nipples via pumping.
I wonder if anything is done about LH and FSH in cases like this one. If I got it correctly, those hormones also matter in milk production; but in trans people, they tend to be very low (it’s a byproduct of hormone replacement therapy), and indeed should be low, generally speaking (if they aren’t, that’s a problem, because they promote the production of our natal sex hormone — for trans women, that’s testosterone of course).
I guess that would be a question for an endocrinologist, though. Unlike some people, I don’t presume to know all that much about these things.
Anyway, all in all, I never cease to be amazed about how ignorant TERFs / GCs are about basic biology. How ironic considering they claim that about us. Yet they arrogantly pontificate, thinking they know it all.
Proper Dunning-Kruger there!
