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For all their talk of "choice", pro-aborts love to ignore women's agency in the process.

They'll talk about abortion laws "forcing" women to have back-alley abortions, ignoring that the women in question chose to pursue dangerous abortions.
They say shit like "if an abortion will get you life in prison, you might as well kill your rapist" as if aborting a baby is just an inevitability the woman has no control over.
They call punishments for abortion "punishing women for having sex" as though the woman had no part in the abortion past having sex.
Likewise, they'll claim that the father should also be held responsible for the abortion because he got her pregnant, ignoring that they explicitly want him to have zero say in the matter.

For pro-aborts, abortion is 100% a woman's choice, until the topic turns to responsibility for the aftermath, at which point abortion is just a force of nature that women have no control over.

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First of all, fuck you. Secondly, for a lot of people seeking abortions, it's a matter of that or a ruined life. Whether that's because they'll have to raise their rapist's baby, will be forever locked out of the life they want to live, will face social backlash or abuse over a pregnancy, will suffer immense physical consequences of a pregnancy and birth or will simply see no other way out than suicide. Everyone who has the ability to become pregnant should have the right to determine whether they want to be pregnant or not, and should have their choice respected.

Nulono: “It’s a [Gollum]prrrrreeecioussssss[/Gollum] BABY in the womb from Moment One of pregnancy! The womb’s owner is just the host entity!!”

...and yet, a male agency - no less than the President of the United States - has ensured via an Executive Order the defence of women's agency.

Thanks for admitting that so many male Protestant Christains in the Repubican Party have out-catholicised the Catholics: especially the devoutly Catholic - yet very much pro-Choice male agent - President Biden.

“They'll talk about abortion laws "forcing" women to have back-alley abortions, ignoring that the women in question chose to pursue dangerous abortions.”

We most certainly do not ignore that they chose a dangerous abortion. But we’ve seen history. Women face dangers in pregnancy. Women face social stigmas from pregnancy. Pregnancy is expensive, as is child-rearing.
Such burdens make women seek abortions even if there’s a decent chance it’ll kill them.

So all in all, the Left would rather increase sex ed, contraception, other means to reduce the needs for abortions, AND make those abortions that do come up as safe as possible for the women that face that choice.

An unwanted pregnancy can cause a woman to face severe health problems(especially if she's underage), poverty (pregnancy ain't cheap, plus women can be fired for being pregnant), ostracism and in extreme cases trapped in an abusive relationship (god help them if they've been raped) , physical harm or even worse. Is it any wonder why they would resort to the extreme measure of a backstreet abortion?

Says the people that want to force a ten year old girl to go though a pregnancy.

“responsibility for the aftermath”

An artificial “responsibility, which you and your controller kind is specifically trying to enforce on other people. It does not exist in the way you tout it in and of itself. How the fuck dare you talk about women agency since you’re giddly taking ti all away by force and replace it with the “responsibility” YOU made for them, you absolute piece of forced birther shitstain.

and just for the encore: NOT A BABY NOT A BABY NOT A BABY, LUMP OF FLESH TILL BRAIN DEVELOPS.

No one is saying anything like this and you know it, you manipulative liar. You are the ones denying people’s agency by taking away abortion as a safe choice. You want to be the one deciding if someone is pregnant or not.

@Yutolia #135045
Lying is the bread and butter of prolifers. The vast majority of their talking points stem from blatant lies, especially since they like to make shit up about saline burns fetuses like acid or how fetuses scream in agony when aborted (silent scream). Or make up strawmen.

I've said it before and I'll say it again , prolifers are some of the least compassionate people out there. They literally don't give a damn about the health/safety about the pregnant woman . I've even seen them outright state they'd happily force a ten year old child to give birth to save the fetus , even though that would be extremely harmful to the 10 year old and a pointless endeavor since the fetus is unlikely to survive such an endeavor.

They are really pro-fetus at best,

Meanwhile forced birthers only care about fetus. And punishing women

Reasons and motivations, what decisions led to a pregnancy are absolutly irrelevant - if a woman doesn't want to carry a pregnancy to terms then she has the right to do so, universally, for the simple reason her body is no one's business but her own.
It's really not that difficult.

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