@Menomaru

Vraiblonde #fundie forums.somd.com

Faith-healing parents charged in death of infant

I do not think this is a tough call at all. Parents have a right to determine their children's medical treatment, not the government.
And there are no buts about it.
While I do not agree with the parents' decision, I also have no interest in giving the government any more control over how we raise our children than what they already have. In fact, I don't even want them to have THAT much control.

So when should the government step in? When parents starve their kids? When they break their bones and beat them? I don't really see how denying medical care is any different than murdering your child.

There is a difference between actively causing harm and merely allowing nature (or God, if you will) to take it's course. Denying medical care is very different than murdering your child.

So passively killing your child is ok but actively doing it is not?

That would be your opinion. And you are not the child's parent. You get to make decisions regarding your kids, and other parents get to make decisions regarding theirs.

My point was if it's ok for parents to raise their children as they please, why is there a Social Services? In your opinion, do you think parents should be able to do whatever they want to their child? Where is the line drawn? Is there even a line at all?

These people did not "do" anything to their child. They did not beat him. They did not refuse to feed him. They did not abandon him.
They simply took an alternate healing route - one, I might add, that many people devoutly believe works. Just because YOU do not agree with it doesn't make it wrong.

rsm30,scrum #psycho #sexist runescape.salmoneus.net

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

Hey, even Meidou somewhat has a same opinion on this as me, so its not like I'm only saying this cause I'm biased or anything. And yes I find nothing wrong at all about a 20 year old being in a sexual relationship with a 12 year old. Why is it wrong? Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

Scrum: “I don't see anything wrong if the girl isn't clever enough to object. She was saved by her Mum. She obviously couldn't get out herself. Which is stupid.”

puupi #psycho #sexist mmo-champion.com

on the story of a child bride who poisoned her adult husband and his friends

The people shot in school shootings are not all (often not at all - victims of columbine shooting had not bullied the shooters, despite their claim that revenge was the cause) people who bullied the shooters. I absolutley think that a violent reaction to systematic violent bullying and abuse is understandable. Just not when you shoot people who have nothing to do with it. In this case, the "friends of the guy" who were killed make it a little less justifyable, but they were still celebrating alongside him and likely took part in / attended the marriage.

So you think that guy who just stabbed 22 people is a hero?

No. I don't think this girl is a hero either. If those 22 people had all brutally bullied and victimised that guy physically / emotionally, then you could say his reaction was understandable. That is almost certainally not the case though. Many of those people will have had nothing to do with it whatsoever. Please stop trying to twist my words

No, murder is not justifiable.

Hell, I was bullied in school. I've had my ass kicked. I've felt physical and mental pain during school. No, I definitely don't see justifiable that I stabbed or shot even the biggest bully.

Rape is an awful thing, but it just another form of physical violation. Getting hit by a fist in the face and kicked to the head, stomach and back are much more dangerous than having a penis inside your vagina.

You really don't think it's insulting to suggest 50% of Nigerian girls aren't smart enough to just run away? If only you were there to tell them that all of their problems could be solved if they hop on a bus.

Well it's insulting to suggest that all Nigerian girls are unhappy with the marriage culture there and getting forcibly married is a reason to murder people.

puupi #psycho #sexist #pratt mmo-champion.com

Being forced to take the trash out or being forced to do your homework are a little different to being forced to marry (potentially for life) a man you do not wish to marry, to have sex with him as and when he desires (as is the case in their culture), bear his children without a say in the matter, and risk your life in doing so.

I was forced to go to the military (like every man in my country), I was forced to serve my country with my life (literally).

I don't think those are small things. I would do them without being forced, too. But that doesn't change they are being forced upon me.

I really have hard time understanding the demonizing of sex. Everyone WANTS to have sex in their life, it's the best thing in the world.

Now when sex is forced it becomes the WORST AND MOST ATROCIOUS THING IN THE WORLD.

How the fuck does that kind of switch happen.

Of course I think rape is bad. But I don't understand the polarization. I think there is a lot of hypocrisy, exaggeration and victimization involved.

Not all sexual experiences for all involved parties are pleasurable.

Would you look forward to sex if you were unlikely to orgasm because your partner wasn't interested in your pleasure, or even your comfort? If it was a painful experience for you because you aren't aroused by your partner, would you look forward to doing that again?

Obviously I would not enjoy it and wouldn't look forward to doing that again. But people do other discomforting things, too, because it's part of life and needs to be done. Like work.

I'm not sorry that I had to go through conscription. I, and other men, owe that to our grandfathers. Yeah it's against free will, but as I've said previously, some things in life aren't that pleasurable yet they still have to be done. The result justifies the means.

Well people who don't want to have sex are a very small minority. Asexuality is 1% or less of the population.

vokal kazih, hooked, zantos, #psycho #sexist mmo-champion.com

[on a 14 yaer old child bride who poisoned her husband and at least 3 of his friends ]

Vokal: “ While I don't agree with forced marriage, killing is killing. She could have just ran away instead of poisoning a dozen or so people. Don't care if she's 14. Hope she fries, or hangs. However they do it.Just like any and every killer should.”


@kazih

She wasn't defending herself. She felt bad and wanted to make other people suffer like a typical school shooting case. You think she couldn't poison the husband in a different situation? No she wanted to kill as many ppl as possible.

Hooked: “I agree, she is pure evil. “ https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1495017-Child-Bride-Kills-Husband-and-his-3-buddies/page13?p=26405166#post26405166 So she was able to go to the market and buy rat poison without anyone noticing, but couldn't just run away?. I think she wanted to make them all pay.

Zantos: “Exactly. She had every bit of freedom she needed to get away at any time. She had just as much time to kill him by himself then to try and take out as many others as she could with him.”

Technically she wasn't kidnapped, the marriage with this man was most likely arranged by her parents, as that is what the law states has to happen for a 14 year old to be married. Wouldn't you say her parents are more to blame than the husband in question? Would you also condone her killing her parents as well because they arranged the whole thing ?Attempting to kill 14 people because you aren't in love with the man your parents forced you to marry doesn't sound like my kind of justice.

Hooked: “Not only that but her own parents probably also had an arraigned marriage. Nah this girl was just evil, plain and simple.”

Puupi #psycho #sexist mmo-champion.com

because they were sitting at the dinner table CELEBRATING the man who was holding her, a 14 year old girl, hostage and wanting to have sex with her against her will...id have killed them all too to get out of that situation...

They were celebrating their marriage. It's normal in their culture.

By the way, are you American? Are you a man? Are you circumcised?

Most (?) American men are circumcised and it is a lot more questionable thing to do compared to arranged marriages, even if the girl is 14.

I see child marriages more acceptable and moral than circumcision.

Those two things aren't remotely comparable, and I'm highly against circumcision of children. How is the marriage/rape of children by adults more moral than cutting some skin off of kids penises?

Mutilation of sexual organs of a baby compared to marriage where you may need to have sex against your will?

You know, there are lots of good things about arranged marriages as well. The girl gets a husband, a man who is feeding, protecting and taking care of her. And the husband gets a wife, who takes care of him. There is more to marriage than just sex.

Shockingly, most people have sex willingly in life. Even do everything they can to please people to get them to have sex. Ultimately, sex drives the whole human society.

So when you need to have sex against your own will - it is a bad and unwanted thing - but it isn't the most atrocious thing happening in the world.

Adenso_1 #psycho #pratt #sexist reddit.com

[ In response to a post called “ "leaving a pedo around small children is a-okay" “]
I mean, yeah, nice reductive argument you got there. Do you really think that someone attracted to kids has absolutely no control over themselves? Are you that brain dead? What if that person was born into the same society as you and had the same super "anti-pedo" mindset instilled into them? Clearly they'd see their attraction as gross, and thus never act on it, yet you're such a dumb fuck of a human being as to believe they still would? Are you even real? Like have you ever interacted with a human before? Have you only been constantly raped all your life and that's why you don't think anyone can control themselves? Fucking moron

Samurai Kenji #psycho #sexist #dunning-kruger #pratt runescape.salmoneus.net

my mother was 13 when she gave birth to me and my dad was in his mid to late 20's i CHALLENGE AND DARE YOU to explain why she and her mother and her mother and her mother were all capable of having a succussful relationship with these "Hunters" and now live pretty fufilling lives without any real complaints about there childhood and why this girl can't.

My mother was brought up in a very American culture and had a child with a very American man. He may or may not have just been interested in getting some fresh good kitty! or he may have legitimately loved and cared for my mom none the less he eventually left her and she was forced to care for yours truly all by herself she was left a single mom to a "Pedophile" but within a couple years she got over it moved to the states got a university degree and is now living happily and even ocassionally meets with that pedophilic monster to have a cup of coffee with him when she visits Los Angeles.

Why are these 2 so different? infact the Man in this article is a bit younger then my dad is and is certainly much less mentally developed and my mom was no further ahead developmentally then any other girl her age. Yes 8 times out of 10 things go bad but that means 2 times out of 10 they go right it's a gamble and so long as they know the odds and have some guidance i feel a girl of 12 years of age has the right to decide whether she wants to have a sexual relationship with this man.

valleyshrew #psycho #pratt reddit.com

children are off limits for fucking

There is no rational age to end childhood. 11 years old (when it was consumated) may have been a perfectly reasonable age biologically. You cannot say to me that 16 is more rational, it just isn't. You have to draw the line somewhere irrational. Modern society has chosen 16-18 because we have elongated adolescence. That it varies from country to country shows you that it is irrational. It's 14 in Spain, would you say fucking a 14 year old spaniard was ok but fucking a 15 year old American is wrong? Children grew up quicker back then when there was not systematic education. What's the difference in having an 11 year old working for a living and being married?

Muhammad had a dozen other wives, none of whom were underage, so he was not exclusively a paedophile. This argument really annoys me because there is no doubt he did not abuse Aisha, he was a great husband and she loved him dearly. Hate muhammad for being a war mongering psychopath who delighted about the thought of the vast majority of people suffering in hell-fire for eternity. Don't hate him for the age of his youngest wife. It's a lame emotional argument because of the stigma of sexuality, and the acceptability of violence. If I was Aisha and I believed Muhammad was a prophet of God then damn right I would marry the shit out of him, and anyone would be lucky to be in that position.

valleyshrew #dunning-kruger #psycho #pratt reddit.com

The whole issue of consent is bullshit. Why is sex so special? Other than because a religion tells you it is. Look at how muslim countries approach it, it's illegal to even hold hands. Should holding hands be illegal before the age of consent here? It's just as logical. But I don't think the big religions are in support of a 17 years old age of consent when Mary was only 13 and Mohammad married a 7 year old. If you believe in God, why would he make us biologically sexually active at around 12, if it was wrong to have sex until 17?

The age of consent was upped to 16 to stop the common act of forced child prostitution which was a just law, but it shouldn't apply anymore. My state has a year extra from the others because of crazy puritans. The fact that secular liberal countries have different ages shows how arbitrary and unfair they are.

Do we need to use age in the law? What about driving for another example. If the best 12 year old in the country can pass their driving test and has provably higher ability than any adult, should they not be allowed to drive? There are plenty of 18 year olds psychologically unfit to be driving but they're allowed to because the law is based on age only, and then they go and get other people killed because of it. It doesn't make sense to draw the line based on the position of the Earth around the sun. What would happen if like in many sci-fi stories, adult humans could be farmed much quicker. Would a 6 month old that had the body of a 20 year old have to wait until 37 to have sex? I don't like having laws without clearly defined loopholes that allow the innocent people their basic rights in life, and the most basic is that you own your own body. To me defining a law by age is no more logical than defining it by sex or race. It's accepted females mature quicker than males, if it was really about the psychological maturity necessary for informed consent why aren't there different ages for males and females?

Doreain #psycho #sexist #dunning-kruger boards.straightdope.com

[ Context: about a grown adult chatting with minors online ]
There’s nothing at all wrong with it. Up until the last 20 years, many older men used to enjoy talking with teens, both boys and girls, even having them as friends. Platonic ones, by the way.
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Interaction with them brings out dreams of our past youth, the* paternal, maternal instincts,* and, with members of the opposite sex, a touch of sexual lure. (Don’t you dare sneer! It’s biology because kids are at their most sexually powerful between 14 and 25. History shows that most children were married from ages 12 to 20. Usually as soon as the girl had her period, she was considered marriage material!! Women reaching 22 without being wed were considered old maids!!) Teens can give off sexual cues without meaning to because of biology.
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I love talking with teens on the web, watching them around town, listening to them chat in groups in stores, admire their grace and awkwardness as they go through that leggy, big footed state where their limbs seem to grow faster than the rest of them. The girls are cute as heck.
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The best thing is their simple beauty, their unlined faces and most do not have that awful ‘look’ adults get over race, religion, job conflicts, accumulated emotional injuries, money problems, and all of the beatings a ‘grown up’ gets trying to live.
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Several years back, I dug up the standard profile of child molesters and read it to find out what one needs to look for and, surprise, surprise! I technically fit the stereotype!!

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You know you’re not going to go and seduce some kid, so don’t worry. Besides, you might be surprised at the amount of kids who try to seduce their young, good looking teachers in high school, especially by girls. Feel sorry for those male teachers in their twenties when some pretty young thing of 15, oozing sexuality from all pores, just busting with nubility thanks to nature telling her it’s time to reproduce, turns on the heat.

belzibhaal #sexist #psycho #racist mmo-champion.com

I'm nearly 35 and I've been banging the shit out of what is probably one of the hottest 16 year olds in the world for nearly 9 months. In fact, the first time I got her into bed was on her 16th birthday. Am I a degenerate?

Most likely. I realize it's a minority position here, but I think adult men should generally prefer adult women. I get that teens can be hot, but that's pretty much where the attraction ends.

I like all kinds of females. My neighbour has two incredibly gorgeous daughters who will be head turners in a year or so and they are only 12. I spent an amazing weekend in Phoenix making a 39 year old redhead scream while she was at the same hotel on business and I've taken my 49 year old lab manager to bed on more than one occasion.

As long as she's well into puberty or nor fully menopausal, I'll find a female attractive.

Why are blacks called African Americans?

I still call them negros, or isajeeps. The term "african american" just sounds plain stupid


12 year old girl speaks against abortion, and she does it well.

From the looks of this little trollop, she hasn't even hit puberty yet, let alone know what a dick feels like. She hasn't the slightest fucking idea what she is talking about.

On a somewhat related note, I don't consider a human to be a human until they have achieved sentience, so if you want to abort fetuses, have at it. Not sentient = not human.

I'll gladly give her a half cooked grenade.

And a coat hanger so she can give herself that abortion she hates so very much when she gets pregnant to her 35 year old boyfriend a year from now.

BelziBhaal #racist #psycho mmo-champion.com

In fact, I am all for an all white state.

I would gladly live in an all white community where I can be surrounded by bright, intelligent, civilised, law abiding citizens and not have to worry about being assaulted or robbed when I go for a walk in the evening. Could you imagine it? No rap, no hiphop, no R&B. Very little crime, almost no violence and certainly no gang activity.[ Hell, I could let my daughter take the bus to school and walk home without having to worry about her getting raped on the way home. I could even let my kids go to the movies without some degenerates trying to sell them drugs or gang rape them in the cinema parking lot. Hell, they could even ride their bikes down the street without having to always be on their guard and ready to hit the dirt in case of a drive-by.

Sounds like heaven to me.


Deleted member 20618 #sexist #psycho looksmax.org

I CONTROL THE FATE OF ALL FOIDS. RUIN FOID LIVES IN 1 SECOND

Remember that you can give foids a fate WORSE THAN DEATH in 1 second through acid attack.

Why are incels not acid attack ing but going er?

They’ll give you the equivalent sentence of murdering someone, but looks don’t matter right? :what:


😂😂😂 i will get my revenge in the philippines on the chheap foids there and i will never get caught. If escort pisses me off or i beta buxx and she tries to pull a fast on me i am acid attacking her

kaltkalt #sexist #psycho reddit.com

Date rape drugsin the system, yes. Alcohol no. Everyone gulps down alcohol, girls exist in bars to get guys to "buy me a drink". But sure if she has a ton of benzodiazepines that she’s not prescribed in her system, i might consider that evidence. But I also know how people buy and trade pills, especially benzos, and like to use them when they go out drinking to get extra-wasted.

As for greivous bodily injury, like... seriously bruised, broken bones, cuts, extreme vaginal tearing, ok definitely evidence of an assault and rape, but how do we know she accused the right guy? Were they on a date? Because there’s certainly no epidemic of guys beating up their dates.

Also, and this is something I learned recently that i still find disturbing... women love rape play. They love a big strong guy coming in, slamming them down on the bed, ripping off their clothes, being extremely rough, grabbing their throat and hair, tossing them around and taking his huge cock and fucking her brains out... all while wearing a ski mask as she yells no no nooo, ohhh yess yess yesss!

I didn’t even believe this until i saw how big the "rape play" forum is on fetlife.com. I heard there were some complaints so it might not be there anymore, this was like 2 years ago. And it was ALL women talking about how hot being raped is - as long as the rapist doesn’t mess up her hair and makeup too badly.

I could never do that to a woman, i guess because I’m a pathetic beta male. But hey, I’ve seen the type of guy women are attracted to. I’m just not sympathetic to rape claims

kaltkalt #psycho #sexist reddit.com

There is never evidence of rape, just "she said" and maybe "she cried on the stand".... DNA tests don’t prove anything except two people had sex. People fuck all the time, especially after drinking. So the accused saying "we had sex, it was consensual" is reasonable to believe and casts doubt on the accusation. In other words it’s reasonable doubt. Defendant should be acquitted every time.

The only time someone can legitimately be convicted of rape is if it’s done in the middle of a public place, or if the rapist films it or confessesto it in a diary or something like that. This practically never happens... once a decade maybe. So there should be only one rape conviction every decade. If even that. It’s a crime that cannot be proven by its nature.

SaurfangtheElder #psycho reddit.com

[on experiment called "Rhythm 0", a six-hour work created by performance artist Marina Abramović. The audience was invited to do whatever they wished to and/or with the artist, using one of 72 objects she had placed on a table for this purpose including a rose, feather, scalpel, metal bar, and a gun loaded with one bullet. Some audience members started to cut her throat and drink her blood with the scalpel , some sexually assaulted her. One man even put a gun to her head and tried to pull the trigger ]


I could see myself becoming violent in such a situation, not because I'm evil inside, but through sheer curiosity. If you look at modern society and the way we live our lives, emotions like love and tenderness happen regularly. Kissing our family or hugging our friends is very natural to many people, and many of us are taught from a young age to treat others with kindness and not aggression.

When we are presented the opportunity to see the other side of the spectrum, to treat someone not like a human being and with kindness, but with hate or violence, it becomes interesting.

This doesn't mean that the person who ends up slapping someone is evil inside, or even that he enjoys it. It's our natural curiosity that also drives us to perform such an act. In the end I could walk away from this experiment where I would have been aggressive and violent and decide that I generally prefer being a nice person over doing that.

Eldooro #sexist #psycho mmo-champion.com

[on a 10 year old child giving birth in mexico]
If you think 10 year olds are too young, you really shouldn't look at human history.
There's a reason for the remark "if she bleeds, she breeds". Back in the day, before penicillin, infant mortality rate was really high. In addition, you needed kids help to work the farm and whatever. The only way to accomplish a lot of things it to breed as fast as possible. This included what we define as kids.

The big deal for us is 10 year old's have no method to survive on their own. We deem them irresponsible and incapable of making live changing decisions. We believe at 18, you're smart enough for live changing decisions (excluding alcohol, being the President, a member of Congress, etc). From others perceptions about it, they look at us as we're going out of our way to teach children (<18 yo) that they can not be responsible until this magic number 18 hits them. In Texas, it's 17, btw, with a 3 year Romeo and Juliet clause.

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I think far too often people forget we are still slaves to our biological masters. We're horny because our body says "MAKE BABY NOW!". There are 13 year old that look like 18 AND get in to bars with a fake ID. They are horny like anyone else but are held to a different standard. Right, wrong, or indifferent -- that's the way it is and it'll be a political war to change it. The war won't be able what's best for the children or adults. It'll be what looks best and will help assist in voting people in to power.

In the US, sex is a scary thing. Showing vag in a movie will get you an X rating. But showing someone losing their torso and blood everywhere may still net you a PG-13 or maybe an R. Sex is natural and something your body really likes. Killing, not so much. Personally, I find us as backwards

Leg end #psycho #dunning-kruger forums.escapistmagazine.com

Everyone deserves a second chance. And, if it is a case of "Statutory Rape", then I have no ill, because that charge is bullshit.


Though, if I find out he had sex with say... a 7 year old girl, well... it had better been consensual, not full on rape.

If rape, I'm not going to like him much at first. But, if the alleged victim forgives him, no hard feelings in my book.

Many shall disagree with me. inb4 "what do you mean consensual?"

Seriously, have you ever met an actual 7 year old? There's no way they have anything like the maturity level to consent, and claiming so is a common justification child abusers use for their crimes (not saying that you would).

I have a 7 year old sister and I can tell you now that if anyone had sex with her, supposedly "consensual" or not, I'm not exaggerating when I say they'd be lucky to still be alive by the time I'd finished with them.

OT: Knowing that someone had done that, I just couldn't employ them. I'm all for second chances but I couldn't stand to work in the presence of a child abuser...

Actually, many seven year olds actually do have such maturity. Hell, I know a 5 year old with more maturity than one of my 35 year old friends. Yes, he indeed needs to stop making dick

unnamed patient #quack #pratt bbc.com

A young adult in New York has become the first US resident in nearly a decade to contract polio, state health officials say.

The unnamed patient in Rockland County is said no longer to be contagious, but has developed paralysis from the virus.

Officials say the person was unvaccinated, and was probably exposed to an individual who received a vaccine that contains the weakened live virus.

The last known US case of the highly contagious virus was recorded in 2013.

Once feared across the nation, the disease was largely eradicated by a national vaccination campaign that began in 1955.

Annual cases quickly fell from fewer than 100 in the 1960s to fewer than 10 in the 1970s - and the US was declared polio-free by 1979.

Pro-life Wisconsin #sexist #fundie #psycho prolifewi.org

THE MOTHER'S LIFE
The so-called "life of the mother" exception for abortion is unnecessary and dangerous. To begin with, there are no situations where abortion, defined as the direct and intentional killing of an unborn child, is medically necessary to save the life of the mother.
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Medical operations such as the removal of a cancerous uterus or the removal of an ectopic pregnancy are moral even under Catholic teaching and are not considered abortions. If a pregnant woman has a cancerous uterus that imminently threatens her life, then the uterus may be removed even though such removal results in the death of the unborn child. Similarly, when a fertilized ovum lodges in the fallopian tube and grows there, the damaged portion of the tube containing the baby may be removed where it is clearly necessary to save the mother's life. Such operations are justified by the "principle of double effect," because the death of the child is an unintended effect of an operation independently justified to save the mother's life. They do not involve the intentional and willful destruction of an unborn child.

Legally, such operations are not considered abortions. The removal of such conditions has never been prosecuted in this country, even when the mother's life was not immediately threatened. There is, therefore, no need to provide a specific exception for such cases in a statute or constitutional amendment prohibiting abortion. Moreover, an explicit exception for the life of the mother is dangerous. One should never attempt to codify in law the importance of one innocent human life over and above another. Physicians must make their best effort to save both patients, giving equal care to mother and child. They should never be given a license to intentionally kill either of them.

Finally, many abortionists believe that the very condition of pregnancy itself is a life threatening condition. Consequently, a "life of the mother" exception can become a massive statutory loophole through which to drive abortion on demand.

Once pro-lifers say there can be a "good reason" to kill a preborn baby, the foundation of the pro-life movement crumbles. The argument is lost. Either the preborn child is a person, or the child is not a person. Since the preborn child is a person, there can be no exceptions for abortion.

Heambbem #racist reddit.com

Lynn Beyak did nothing wrong, Indians got billions for going school. Stop whining about it and start paying your fair share to Canada.

What she said was true.
From 1800 to 1970 about 150,000 children attended residential schools. Relatively small number for a span of 170 years when you look at how many first nations people lived during that time.

The deaths can be almost entirely attributed to illness as they occurred before most vaccines.

It is SO FAR beyond reason to even suggest that most of these kids were sexually abused at the hands of the teachers/priests/nuns. To believe that most of these people, who dedicated their lives to educating, caring for, and preparing indigenous children for the new society were SO evil they would rape, torture, and murder kids or stand by while other teachers did it, is insanity.

Plus there is like no proof of most of these outlandish claims.

Not saying not a single child was sexually abused, but it wasn’t as widespread as they will have you believe and alot of it was student on student sexual abuse.

Not to mention that compulsory attendance ended in 1950 and the running of the schools was taken over by the native bands around 1970 if I remember correctly?

Anyone who has done their research on residential schools and has read old newspapers from that time will see stories of these kids being taken in to spend holidays with local families, travelling brass bands, travelling sports teams, etc. Not so doom and gloom after all.

It was not the torture chamber they make it out to be. They probably got 3 more square meals a day then they did at home on the reserve.

[deleted] #racist reddit.com

There is no such thing as indigenous history prior to when Europeans showed up. They didn't have a fucking written language. They just had mythology and traditions which is like the telephone-game of history. It of course has value like religion has value but you can't treat it as hard history. Plus compared to Christianity it doesn't seem to have gotten them anywhere so it's like the hobbyist's mythology.

Speaking of which, anyone go to the Museum of History (formerly Museum of Civilization) in Ottawa? I went last month, hadn't gone since I was a kid. So long story short they basically reworked the entire fucking thing into the Aboriginal History Museum. Right at the bottom of the place is all the recovered shivs and bats and whatever other bullshit they found, but as you go through they really focus on Aboriginal culture and there's this area right at the start with a massive video screen about how "Canada started." I'm not even joking, it's some Aboriginal elder woman describing how giant space animals came down to Earth and fucked around and made the continents. It's an otter and a bear and a fish, and it's just like "yeah and this is how it all started!" I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it just recently. Then the rest of it is boring tribal bullshit and arrowheads. Oh, and in "modern Canada" near the end there's some #IdleNoMore shit and Residential Schools and all that.

That was a bit of a tangent. I guess what I'm trying to say is Aboriginal historical study is fucking retarded (it's indistinguishable from modern aboriginal culture) and while I like Aboriginal culture in many ways - especially the connection to their ancestors and the belief that their history is passed through genealogy and blood - this infiltration into education is purely rebellious colonization by way of goofy bullshit literally nobody in the 21st century needs to know about. Fucking hell, when they were throwing spears at fish and believing crows were super-intelligent, the Chinese were building the Great Wall and the Greeks were inventing modern human thought.

[deleted] #racist reddit.com

[ on indigenous people in canada]

They were literally stone age barbarians. The only metal they saw was the Inuit finding meteoroids on the tundra.

Scalping and raiding other tribes and making snowshoes are all they really accomplished in 16,000 years.

I've known this since I was a kid. You can blame the CBC for young me learning those "hate facts"

Black_Orchid13 #psycho #sexist reddit.com

Kids should be put in cages.
A couple of days ago I took a trip to the zoo for my birthday! I absolutely love the zoo! But if there is one thing I can't stand is when people taunt the animals, but of course as we all know "Kids will be kids!" (read as "assholes will be assholes!").

Anyways, as I was walking through the catwalk there was one little asshole little girl who was worse than the rest. She sat next to the cougar cage growling and hissing and making stupid cat noises at the cougar who looked like she had just about had enough of everyone's shit. The little girl made one more growling noise and the cat looked like she wanted to devour the little crotch demon, and oh how I wish she would have :/ The little girl got scared and ran off to her mommy. What the fuck did she expect? little cunt.

Kids should be put in cages, not animals.

itisamuh #homophobia mmo-champion.com

the normal status quo is man plus woman. It has nothing to do with state vs federal (for me anyway.) I simply see no reason for society to go out of its way to support every single oddity people can come up with. Especially since, if we deviate from the obvious norm once, then why not do it again? Why not legalize incest, provided both parties consent? Why not lower the age of consent to post-puberty, since they do it anyway? Etc. None of those things are "natural restraints" and all of them involve "natural attraction." If we revoke our purely man-made laws for one deviation, then all the others start asking for it, and the reasons for denying them become flemsy. Better to just not cross the line in the first place and have a set standard in my opinion. And that principle can apply to basically everything, not just this. It has nothing to do with "hating" gays, or wanting to deny rights, but rather having more concrete, set standards of life. Of course, as we become a more liberal society, my "archaic" standards will continue to get phased out in the name of goofy political correctness and an "everybody wins!" mentality.

But, as someone said earlier, it gets ridiculous having laws completely change from one state to the next. So as much as I would rather keep my conservative state conservative, I understand why the federal government steps in sometimes

Hyve #sexist mmo-champion.com

It was a mutually exclusive deal. The women must cover herself in front of men, to stop any temptation, and at home, she is free to dress as she wishes. These days though, that has been taken totally out of context, and had religious views stamped all over it.

Sadly, this isn't restricted purely just to Middle-Eastern Societies, but it is more prevalent due to the media coverage. Over here, we allow women to dress as they please, and rape cases are higher here, then they are in the Middle East. Now, I'm not saying they've got a good system, but merely pointing out, they had an old system (and I am talking, hundreds, if not thousands of years by the way) that ensured that both Men & Women were safe and could lead happy lives.

Isamu #psycho boards.straightdope.com

for what crimes would you turn in a loved one

Nothing.

I would have included election tampering, witness bribery, gay bashing and animal abuse.

And I’m appalled that there are significant numbers of people who wouldn’t turn in someone for serious crimes like child rape or serial murders.

Well let me clarify my case. I don’t have any loved ones who could be capable of those things. If they did them, it would mean they were having a major brain malfunction or some similar crisis and I would make sure they got the help they needed, or some kind of isolation, rather than letting the police push them through the legal system into a hellish future of incarceration.

Tad R. Callister #racist #psycho latterdaysaintmag.com

Will the Real Columbus Please Stand Up?
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Some revisionists would have us believe that the natives with whom Columbus interacted were all peace-loving, free of all major diseases, and living in a Garden of Eden state before Columbus “destroyed” it all. The facts reveal, however, that many tribes were continually at war. Furthermore, the facts reveal that some of these natives were cannibals, some ate their own children, some were subject to major diseases, some possessed slaves, some used captured women as sex slaves, some were addicted to cocaine, some performed human sacrifices, the vast majority were uneducated, and some practiced witchcraft, among other atrocities. To suggest that Columbus destroyed their peaceful, civilized, and harmonious societies is pure, absolute fiction.

To the contrary, Columbus brought them a much better way of life— Christianity. That is why the Americas today are filled with Christian nations where cannibalism has been eradicated, slavery abolished, human sacrifices done away, major diseases minimized, women treated with greater respect, life expectancies extended, poverty reduced, and education made available to most. That is the true legacy of Columbus.

J973 #psycho #sexist reddit.com

I had sex with a guy and in the middle of it he took off condom without me noticing, after everything he said that his dick wasn't hard enough with condom so he took it off. He did apologize when I got angry and all he can say now is why you mad I didn't finish in you. I like this guy a lot, but I feel so betrayed should I end everything with him?

Okay, so it is or isn't rape depending on where you live. If you live in "Reddit-land" it's 100% rape for sure. If you live in UK or Canada I will take people's word on that-- people can be charged and it's illegal.

I gave a pretty good look and as far as I can tell in the United States, right now, 2018, it's NOT illegal and therefore it's NOT rape.

One of the many sites I looked at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-consensual_condom_removal

That's just the legal definitions.

Legality is not morality.

You can feel pissed and violated, but I am very much not in favor of calling every unwanted sexual situation a "rape". As a woman, I think it takes away from REAL RAPE--- and yes I said it! Real rape, like 6 strangers in a back alley sodomizing you in every hole.

If my husband takes off his condom while we are having sex, then yes it is sexual assault/rape. I consented to protected sex, once he removed that condom, the consent is revoked.

guess you are the type that thinks I was raped every time I would go out and get drunk and have sex--- because I couldn't consent. I don't. I was never raped. I was never a "victim" because I didn't feel like a victim.

Different times and I'm glad I am not young and single. Today's women repulse me as much as I repulse you. I think you are a bunch of entitled whiners that cry rape if someone literally looks at you wrong. Or whistles at you. Gross.

I always wanted equality, meaning being equal to men. Not a perpetual victim, who wants equality and yet still wants the door held and guys to pay for dates.

J973 #sexist #pratt reddit.com

If they agreed to be fucking a guy and then only say stop because they have climaxed..... they aren't being raped, they are being a cunt that NEEDS TO BE RAPED.

I always wish that girls that cry rape over situations that they agreed to-- should be anally gang raped by strangers in an alley, so that they learn what rape really is.

And for the record.... didn't the girl just want him to hurry up and finish? That's not telling him to stop.

.You are a terrible, terrible person

Nope. I just think that women who are in bed with a guy, doing it... change their mind and cry rape really aren't being raped. It is a scary world for men out there when women are allowed to call a change of heart, guilt, or remorse, RAPE. I think it devalues the meaning of the word for women who are truly forcibly raped. I can't help it what hivemind thinks.... hivemind isn't always right about a lot of things.

BuffaloRepublic #racist reddit.com

Unnecessarily my fucking ass.

50,000 native kids aren’t in care outside of reserves because guilty white liberals want them there — they’re there because 50,000 native kids have piss poor parents that can’t even look after themselves due to a variety of issues.

Of course the native industrial complex in Canada will tell you that the parents are bad because of ‘residual damage from residential schools’, which is a major cop-out; quickly followed by the demand for more funds from whitey as repetitions for things and stuff.

Rick Santorum #racist salon.com

We came here and created a blank slate. We birthed a nation from nothing," he continued. "I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes, we have Native Americans but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture. It was born of the people who came here pursuing religious liberty to practice their faith, to live as they ought to live, and have the freedom to do so.

J973 #sexist reddit.com

My friend asked me for money for an abortion
You would think that being extremely close friends for over 24 years would give her a clue that I don't agree with abortion. I believe it is killing unborn babies. I had my first child at 19, and I did just fine.

My friend chooses to have completely unprotected sex while not being on birth control. In your late 30's you should know better than that. This isn't an accident. It isn't the first time. Her primary form of birth control is apparently abortion. I have a big problem with that.

I am so upset over this. I think, more than she is. My husband does not want any more children, so adopting her baby isn't an option, though, I probably would if it were only up to me. This whole issue has me heartbroken and pretty depressed.

My whole adult life I have been a mother. I love being a mother. My youngest is almost 12. I want another baby, but under my husbands pressuring I got a tubal sterilization, so I know that it's never an option. I am sad for me, and angry about her.

I don't want her to kill her baby. I don't see how she can do it, repeatedly with so little thought. I don't know if I can think of her the same after this. In fact I know I can't. She has been a horrible friend to me over the years. There are too many examples to even start. Yet for some messed up reason, I lived her unconditionally, like a sister. I don't think that I can handle this though. I guess there was a condition, I will probably still love her like a sister. I just don't see it being the same.

I am probably going to have to yell at her for being an irresponsible fucking whore, because if I don't know one else will. I am not slut shaming. I have no problem with the amount of different dudes that she fucks, it's that she is being so unsafe when she has children and could get pregnant.

Thanks for listening to the venting.

J973 #sexist reddit.com

Well.... I guess I am slut shaming, but if you act like a whore than you are a whore. The stuff that she has done around children, including her own is inexcusable.... to the point if CPS found out, she would probably AT LEAST have an open CPS case if not have her children removed.

So, yes I guess I am saying if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.... it's a duck. If she acts like a whore, fucks like a whore.... she is a whore.

It's really not up to you to decide how much sex a person must have in order to be called a whore. If things are really so bad for her children you should be responsible yourself, and call CPS to get them some help, not trash her uselessly on reddit.

wouldn't call CPS on anyone that I know unless I felt the kids lives were in danger. Their psychological and emotional well-being are not for me to decide. By law mom's are allowed to trollop as many sketchy dudes through their front door as they want to have sex with for beer and cigarettes. It doesn't make it "right" though, now does it? If she wants to maintain that lifestyle she shouldn't have had any children.

And... I can judge her all I want. She is my friend, not yours. I don't have to like what she is doing and I am allowed to tell her so.

Really? CPS takes away the children of people who have "too much" sex? Could you please provide a link or something for that? In a country as obsessed with keeping government out of our lives as the US is, it seems strange that this kind of interference would be countenanced. But well, I don't know a lot about CPS, which is why I'm asking.

I did CPS.... and no, you can't get your kids taken for "having too much sex". Now if you are getting drunk and fucking out in the open in the living room with random people and the kids are seeing that on a semi-frequent basis, you would probably get in trouble for neglect. If you have frequent loud drunken fights with these random men and the kids hear it... you can get in trouble for neglect. She has already had several open CPS cases on her for neglect and Domestic Violence after a guy pressed charges on her from throwing something that apparently hit him in the head.

Underverse #psycho mmo-champion.com


it might not be harmful for them to lose their childhood, but it is really, really really fucking wrong. a kid should only have to think about playing, making friends, and doing homework. they shouldn't have to think about the things that come with sex, that's just wrong.
and no, danger isn't a good reason to outlaw bestiality. if danger was a good reason to outlaw something, you'd outlaw smoking and alcohol.

Yes, yes you would. And I think smoking should be outlawed, and I think it will be, with time. Alcohol has other benefits - social lubrication, mostly, that have value to society. Bestiality does not have any value beyond baseline.

So I assume you're okay with people having sex with anyone post-puberty, given your idealistic 'playing, friends, homework' trifecta. So you've lowered the bar to ~12. Logically, I used to agree with that. But I've come to understand that sexual interactions are not innately harmful, not matter the age at which they take place. These organs are functional in all regards except reproduction from the moment we're born. I would rather see parents, like bonobos, use pleasure to calm their kids, instead of violence. Only in this fucked up post-agricultural culture do we think that violence is a more acceptable means of disciplining children. If you're so worried about mental effects, maybe you should start there.

So smoking should be illegal, but parents disciplining their kids by fucking them should be legal?

Context matters. If harm is caused, it needs to be justified with a benefit. The benefit to smoking is feeble at best.

I'm not advocating for rape. Rape is simply a destructive act. But my disdain for rape does not translate into a disdain for sex, or other sexual interactions. In the context of this argument, I would say sexual interactions to calm children would be permissible and preferable to spanking or psychological abuse in the form of isolation. That doesn't mean rape, beatings, or violence.

Underverse #psycho mmo-champion.com

I assume you want it banned because of secondary smoking, so justify it in the context of children. Do you think the overall negative impact of having a smoker for a parent is greater than the negative impact of having a parent who had sex with you since childhood?

Yes. If that parent is nurturing and fosters positive traits, I see no reason for harm to be part of this calculation. Sexual interactions (not necessarily penetrative sex - that's quite rare in pre-pubertal individuals who are victims of sexual abuse, more common in ephebes) can serve as a powerful mechanism of pair bonding that can act to strengthen familial ties and improve trust between individuals - as long as you don't have a culture that condemns you as a victim with no agency, and your parents as rapists who are going to jail.

J973 #sexist #psycho reddit.com

Lady here. It is only a cunt that gets off and then says stop. Unless there is pain or a medical reason involved. He should have finished. This whole rape thing is getting way out of hand.

No, when somebody says "stop", it means "stop"--no questions asked. That isn't the "rape thing getting way out of hand".

If they agreed to be fucking a guy and then only say stop because they have climaxed..... they aren't being raped, they are being a cunt that NEEDS TO BE RAPED.

I always wish that girls that cry rape over situations that they agreed to-- should be anally gang raped by strangers in an alley, so that they learn what rape really is.
And for the record.... didn't the girl just want him to hurry up and finish? That's not telling him to stop.

You are a terrible, terrible person

Nope. I just think that women who are in bed with a guy, doing it... change their mind and cry rape really aren't being raped. It is a scary world for men out there when women are allowed to call a change of heart, guilt, or remorse, RAPE. I think it devalues the meaning of the word for women who are truly forcibly raped. I can't help it what hivemind thinks.... hivemind isn't always right about a lot of things.

J973 #sexist reddit.com

I'm a liberal and I have only been in a church for Weddings and funerals. I still think killing unborn babies is wrong. I don't need a f-ing book to tell me that-- and I could give two shits about how a woman feels after having an abortion. At least she gets to feel, something she took away from her unborn child/ren.

So if you think it's cruel to kill an unborn child, then don't you think it would also be cruel to force another child who got pregnant at a young age from rape to keep the baby, have a constant reminder of the incident that could prevent the child from learning to move on, and being bullied for something they could not even control.

Rape cases are rare. Most abortions are for convenience. I would be understanding if it were an actual rape situation, that was like PROVEN. As woman, I know another woman could say anything in order to get the desired result. Though, a rape victim would only have to think about the unborn rape child for about 9 months then it would never have to be around them again.

Because someone is raped, it's okay for them to murder another human? That's great logic. Do we give rape victims a pass if they don't abort the baby but decide to kill it after birth??

Steamboatkevin #racist reddit.com

We could start by all learning the definition of "genocide", then we could all learn to stop using hyperbole and words that don't apply to the history of Canada. There was never a genocide in Canada. Ever. Stop robbing the people of this world who have gone through genocide of their dignity by trying to steal empathy directed at them.

This is genocide. There was no campaign of murder to eradicate the native gene from. The gene pool. Revisionist lies and hyperbolic nonsense. Shame

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The sixties scoop.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2898190/what-was-the-60s-scoop-aboriginal-children-taken-from-homes-a-dark-chapter-in-canadas-history/

Hyperbole hyperbole hyperbole. The 60s scoop was a legitimate CFS action. It isnt "genocide" when children are removed from terrible parents or abusive situations. Nobody has ever shown me evidence that this wasn't the case in the 60s scoop.

As for all. Your other nonsense, it isn't genocide to not feed people when they have a clear path to opportunities elsewhere. All they had to do was move. The land was expropriated, as is still done today. And it was a good thing it was expropriated. Passing influenza to people isn't genocide. Complete nonsense. You should have your mouth washed up with soap.

[deleted] #racist reddit.com

God I hate these disingenuous comments on residential schools. They are an annoying kind of technically correct. Acting like they were an internment camp trying to harm the natives is just blatantly dishonest. You have to take the good when you're going to rattle off the bad.

After the 1940s the government was going to end them, natives wanted them kept open. From then on they were made non mandatory because the government still wanted to cut the cost of it if they have to keep it. It then ended up becoming a defacto child services home. They put kids removed from bad homes in residential schools since it's not easy to find actual homes for them. An uncomfortable, underfunded, and sub-par school is still a vastly superior place for the kids than homes where their parents beat them and give them nearly no education.

Kombatminipig #psycho boards.straightdope.com


You’d “encourage” him to find another job, but you wouldn’t bother to inform his employer that he has stated he wants to rape the childrn he’s entrusted to take care of?

Yes, for his own sake. He should question why he is in that line of work, and where it’s going to lead him. But I can’t force him to make the choice. Again, flaming liberal speaking. The oldskool kind of liberal.

Personally I’d have little moral problems with beating the living crap out of the individuals who have raped friends of mine, but would that make me unqualified to work in an environment where I come into contact with convicted rapists? I can control my instincts, why shouldn’t he be able to? Slight hyperbole, but merely stating an example.

“Whether he acts on his instincts?” So you’re willing to wait around until AFTER he’s already raped a baby (a BABY) to decide wether it’s dangerous to let someone who says he wants to rape babies take care of babies?

I’m not saying I like the idea, but once again…you’re promoting the punishment of an individual due to what’s inside his head. Lets wander that path a bit further, shall we? Would you like to have him locked up? Forbidden to use the internet? What about castrated?

Wallace The Wookie #racist twitter.com

Canada failed in its duty, Trudeau says as parliament holds special debate on residential school mass grave

It is really a “mass grave” or is it many separate graves created over many years? This occurred in a different time and no matter how wrong it is now, deaths from TB and other diseases many years ago were much more common than they are now. Terrible situation, but not genocide

Fact:
Duncan Scott ran the residential schools in Canada for the federal government. Dr. Peter Bryce was hired to evaluate the schools in 1902. He found the conditions deplorable and subhuman. He made a list of recommendations for necessary changes. Scott rejected them all.

FACT:
People who respond to others’ comments with “fact:” are virtue signalling douchebags (see what I did there?). If you have an opinion start your own thread.

Truth & Reconciliation Com. held at least 3,200 children died at the Schools; one in every 50 students of the program’s nearly 120-year existence. The true # is likely as high as 6,000. TB was primary cause, but the Schools were hotbeds, given cramped conditions & negligence

Different times and different values. We can learn from history without cancelling it. Canada would not exist without our imperfect, flawed, fathers of confederation. We shouldn’t excuse them but we have to recognize all that they did, the good and the bad.

AspieMom #ableist #psycho amazon.com

At least there's a little hope with cancer. There's no hope for children with autism. My daughter has Asperger's and she's constantly embarrassing everybody with her lack of social graces. She refuses to participate in any sort of therapy. Medications don't quiet or calm the symptoms. There's no palliative for it. She's always going to be autistic and she's never going to fit in anywhere, I don't care how smart she is. At least with cancer there's a cure or there's death. Autism isn't that easy.