Confusion: The enemy wants to convince the world that good is evil and evil is good.
Those same people consider this wholesome, normal and pure:
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There is obvious deception. The enemy likes to present himself as an angel of light, so we're not surprised that those who follow him want to present evil as good. The concern is their attack against the innocent. Pray. Do not be deceived as God is not mocked.
Children should not be allowed in environments that are only about sex where adults simulate sexual activity and walk around nude.
Isaiah 5:20 (NKJV)
Come quick Lord.
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You guys, you quoted the wrong fundie here. The real fundies are the naked perverts in those images.
Lady Checkmate has perfectly reasonable concerns, even if they are couched in some religious mumbo jumbo.
@Thinking Allowed
Fine, go to a nudist beach then. Otherwise keep your junk in your trunk and FAR away from the kids.
Also, we'll just how "natural" nudity is during a winter in Chicago LOL
@Jocasta McFucken
Cause you're a pervert.
Newsflash: according to your cute little hypothesis, this is your beloved Lord's original design.
Why are you expressing a preference for human made garments over the human body as the good Lord made it? Heresy, I say!
20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Lady, it's a dick. Fifty percent of the species has one, and pretty much every animal species uses them. They're the very definition of normal. What's not normal is being terrified of a body part because some crusty old bastard with a dusty old book told you that an invisible man will hurt you after you die if you touch, look at or even think about it without his permission.
"Do not be deceived as God is not mocked."
You haven't been on the internet very long, or been alive for very long. God has been mocked, God is being mocked, and God will be mocked in the future, particularly every thing you insist that God is not mocked.
OK, let's go for a little history here. Why are there such things as gay pride parades? Because you and your ilk had your way for decades. You insisted that perfectly normal human beings hide in the closet because of what they were, or in your terms, because they're "what god made them". You insisted they deny themselves, pretend, cover up, hide themselves and would not let them express their own true nature in the same way that everybody else could.
Those flagrant displays are deliberate. They are meant to shock and offend you, and I'm sure these guys are happy to see you be shocked and offended. They are "acting out", but that's your own damn fault. In retrospect, wouldn't it have been better to respectfully issue them legal marriage certificates all those decades ago, and they could then be treated civilly like any other married couples? And, like other married couples, they would expect to be told to "get a room" when their sexual displays got too overt for the public sphere. But no, they first had to get your attention - and I see they have done exactly that.
They're not acting, they're REACTING ....to you. Sucks to be you, right?
I kinda agree with the idea of not allowing children into certain parts of Pride, or at other occasions like the Folsom street fair.
I live in SF: The pride parade itself is pretty family friendly, but the fair at Civic Center afterwards can be pretty heavy on the nudity and kink. While I'm all for teaching kids about sexuality as soon as they're old enough to understand it, I don't think I would want my hypothetical kid looking into the finer points of figging when they're 6 or 7.
That being said, the lady's still batshit crazy.
The absolute worst thing about Lady Checkmate is her blatant dishonesty.
She posts the Pride pictures to denounce homosexuality as base and vile and disgusting, choosing to zero in on the flamboyant, political side of homosexuality. And in doing so completely ignores the quiet and private homosexuals who wouldn't be caught dead at a Pride event.
Fuck you, Lady Checkmate. Really hard. Up the ass. Forever.
@Thinking Allowed
Yeah I don't really need to say much to you either.
You are beyond reason if you think a grown ass man should flash his junk in public with children present (and they know they're present). The fuck is wrong with you?
@Kanna
You can have pride parades without being a total creeper like that naked dude in the photo.
Being oppressed for being gay doesn't give you pass to dress (or in this case "undress") in an indecent manner.
Hopefully those dudes were arrested. I know I would be if I ever walked around like that in public.
@creativerealms
Because they're throwing out basic decency to push their cause?
Oh right I forgot, leftists are never fundies.
Butlins Holiday Camp, Skegness, UK:
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Jesus Camp, USA:
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Although Sir Billy Butlin was a devout Church of England Christian: and that, one of the contractual conditions in any company's future takeover of the camp(s) & thus the 'Butlins' brand was that they must host at least once a year Christian conventions at the camps he created, in perpetuity, even he would have drawn the line at the indoctrination of kids .
With his generous donations to various charities - as well as his fundraising for such: and he creating charitable foundations, especially for children - there's an extremely good reason why he was awarded a Knighthood .
So why is it that Butlins at Bognor Regis, Minehead, and Skegness still exist to this day, and Becky Fischer's 'Jesus Camp' doesn't ...?!
@ Lady Troodon
Whether or not public nudity is a misdemeanor depends on the jurisdiction. Even though most places make public nudity illegal some of those places will make various exceptions. My guess is that that was the case for the pictures taken. There are even a few places in the world, such as Cap d'Agde in France which have completely legal public nudity.
Furthermore parents are responsible for their children. If they know there is going to be nudity at an event and object to it then they should not take their children to that event.
It's just human beings in their natural form. Nobody gets upset about seeing other animals without clothes on, why should we freak out about seeing our own species as we truly are?
It might be the schoolboy in me but I'm still giggling over the Come quick Lord
Aside from the fact that I don't find any of those images in any way disturbing I don't see why the last one was included at all. It is from a Hong Kong gay pride parade but that bunch is just promoting condom use.
Yes, children shouldn't be allowed in environments that are only about brainwashing their young minds, corrupting them with fundie poison.
@Jocasta
As long as nobody is actually having sex or masturbating in public during this, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Where the hell did you come from? Victorian England?? Nudity exists, and children will see it. Children also know sexuality exists, no matter how hard you try to shelter them. Get over it.
Why should nudity at all be considered impure? It's just our natural bodies, with our natural anatomy, the way God made us, if you believe that sort of thing. And didn't God create Adam & Eve to walk around naked, and got mad when they hid themselves and made clothes because they realized they were naked?
The thing is that if everyone walked around naked every day, we wouldn't even notice a penis or a woman's breasts any more.
And you do know that they do outrageous things in public in order to shock people, don't you? The reason is because it's the backlash of being oppressed by conservative fundies for hundreds of years. If you had just allowed gay people to be openly gay, there would be no gay pride parades now.
That's funny; the poster holocaust21 thought that kids should be allowed to have "normal relations" with adult men... Not simulations; the real deal.
Those naked men are hardly "sexual activity", they are just standing and walking. Otherwise you have a VERY boring sex-life...
Besides, if you think the pictures are so vile, why are you spreading them further?
@TheResounater
It depends on the place and culture. I assumed it was in a culture where nudity is not as approved of because that kid in the picture is cringing like he's never seen public nudity before. In America, nudity is more sexualized than it is in Europe, which is why "indecent exposure" is penalized. I don't think people deserve serious jail time for a streaking, but if you do it in a culture where nudity is more sexualized, people WILL get uncomfortable and disapprove of it.
@ #2059266
But then how is the culture ever supposed to change? The attitudes towards nudity in the US are unhealthy (and I say this as an American). I agree people should respect the law. However, changing the laws is the first step towards a change in the culture. Little exceptions here and there such as the World Naked Bike Ride which several cities have decided to allow are a step in the right direction in changing our culture's unhealthy aversion to nudity.
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