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“1. I admire the fact that Muslims get angry when their god’s name is blasphemed.”
God’s a big boy, he can take care of himself. Near As i can tell, Christains get upset PERSONALLY, taking any disrespect to their god as a personal attack.
Get over yourself.

“2. I admire the fact that Muslims pray 5 times a day, when many Christians don’t pray at all.”
So, you just use this Muslim requirement as a reason to bash the Christains around you.

“3. I admire the fact that Muslims require women to dress modestly in public.”
As #2. Bashing Wester Women’s practices by comparison.

“4. I admire the fact that Muslims have a religious and political system that emphasizes the importance of God in daily life.”
It’s just Unconstitutional, here. May I suggest moving to Afghanistan?

“5. I admire the fact that Muslims still judge sin publicly as in the recent flogging of the man convicted of adultery.”
Ah. And you want to watch heretics being punished in the name of YOUR god, huh?

“6. I admire the fact that Muslims emphasize masculine rule of the home and nation.”
Oh, a Christain fundamentalist sexist. How unusual. The surprise! The unique!

“7. I admire the fact that Muslim women are expected to have children and be keepers at home.”
More sexism…

“8. I admire the fact that Muslims memorize and know their Koran, while most Christians are ignorant of the Bible.”
More of #2…

“9. I admire the fact that Muslims judge and punish sodomites and other perverts.”
This is jsut #5, repeated.

“10. I admire the fact that Muslims are willing to die for their beliefs.”
Isn’t that why Christains keep bringing up the faith of the Early CHristains who got throwed at the lions?
And never mind the Pagans who got throwed to the same lions when the CHristains took over…?

Edward Hudgins #elitist

So you're saying "Going Galt" means taking your ball and going home? Sounds like the reaction of a spoiled child. Hardly inspiring.

Star123Compy #dunning-kruger #fundie

Protestants and Catholics spent nearly 300 years killing each other over the question of which was the best way to touch people's hearts. And in the end, with casualties estimated as high as 8 million deaths, they declared a draw, so it was all for nothing.

Talk about "beneficial behaviors."

1angel4u #fundie

“Umm, what do they not get about a "theory" ?”
They don’t make the same mistake you do.
EVERYTHING in science is a theory. Gravity, evolution, aspirin decreasing headaches, sedatives decreasing emotions, brains as the center of thought…. All of it could be falsified at any time.
But we have LOTS of evidence for any of it, and are fairly sure, as a working hypothesis, that it holds together.
Unlike the ‘wild guesses’ on cop and doctor shows after someone says ‘I have a theory.’

“That's what get's me”
Then that’s self-inflicted.

“ It's still the "theory of evolution" but somehow, gee - wonder how that happened - Satan has made it in to "fact" in our public school system. Shameful, and sinful”
No. Evolution has been observed, it’s a fact.
There’s a separate theory of evolution to explain the facts we’ve collected. It’s confusing but maybe someone near you had a fourth-grade reading capability and can explain it to you?

Edward Hudgins #elitist

“"Going Galt" means recognizing that the needs of others do not give them a claim to your time, effort, and achievements.”
And yet another idiot spends a lot of time and verbiage justifying being selfish. I mean, it’s not like you gain any benefit from being in a society that guarantees sources of food, goods, services, and money to pay for them. not like you want the kid at the counter to be able to make change, so you don’t need to fund education. Not like you’ll EVER need an ambulance, or a fire truck, cops, any of the city services that other fools pay for, huh?
Nope. Just you and you alone… Growing your own food, curing your own leather, picking your internet wild from unplanted bushes. And making your own movies on the computer you grew yourself, so you can discuss scenes of how brilliant your hero was…

And wondering why no one comes to your door, hat in hand, begging you to come back to us and… Um. Wait, there was something. Oh. Pay taxes to keep the whole thing running…?

David J. Stewart #conspiracy

I always love those that find great import in the measurements of the Great Pyramid, considering that the outer covering is gone and we don’t know how that showed up in the measurements.
And Cleopatra lived closer to Bitcoin than she did to the start of the Pyramids. They were ancient ruins long before her reign. So any inferences Davey draws from the pyramids he can see RIGHT NOW is about as significant as looking at the ruins of the Roman Forum and thinking the number of seats is all they ever had.

Star123Compy #dunning-kruger #fundie

"The statistical likelihood of salvation, however, differs between groups and dispositions. That’s a personal choice.”
If it’s a personal choice, then statistics don’t really matter.
Like, it’s a choice to smoke, but it’s a statistical matter that you get cancer.
Each and every single person is judged as an individual for salvation or damnation. There’s no telling what a person really feels or believes no matter where they stand. Mark Twain had a couple of stories about how truly evil people were who were sitting in the pews, while someone like Jimmy Carter, actually building homes for the homeless, might be tapped as a winner.

“Christianity has existed for ~2,000 years not because of the sword or the pen, but because its ideological views more closely align with objective reality"
You SAY it’s objectively real, but you cannot show this claim to be a fact. And you really cannot divorce Christainity from the violence or the intolerance of the faithful.
You appeal to ‘christainity’ as a faith, but the Catholics burned Christain heretics, and the Protestants burned Catholics. So one way or another, ‘Christainity’ had the power of the sword and the pen.

“Where other ideologies require the sword or the pen, Christianity ‘touches the heart’ because the body innately recognizes its behaviors as ‘most beneficial.’”
Yes, yes, it was Muslims who said ‘kill them all, Allah will recognize his own.’
It was Shinto who burned witches.
And never forget the Hindu efforts to convert the Native Americans by force.

Diana-lostandfound #sexist #crackpot

Edward Hudgins #elitist

Katelin Duggan #conspiracy

@Indicible #256182

And who are Joseph and Patrick?

Other Kennedys, apparently. Which is kinda funny now that I realized that…OMG, she’s telling me the Kennedy family is related to each other? Stop the presses! And JFK and JFK Jr are not only father and son, they’re cousins, LOL.

Edward Hudgins #elitist

He never really said what “going Galt” actually IS. As a guy who used to be quite the Ayn Rand fan, and who read Atlas Shrugged multiple times, I know “going Galt” means you’re basically going “on strike” from society in general, and then society will eventually beg you to come back when they realize they can’t function without the likes of you. In the book, John Galt was a guy who was a engineer for a car company who designed a new motor powered by ambient static electricity which would more or less revolutionize, like…everything, apparently. But then he quit when the company he worked for went all communist on everybody. So I just have to wonder, when anybody talks about “going Galt”….why do you think anyone would give a shit, if you’re not the equivalent of John Galt or Fransisco D’Anconia or any of the other “strikers”?

In other words, “Going Galt” means to embrace one’s malignant narcissism.

Diana-lostandfound #sexist #crackpot

Edward Hudgins #elitist

It means believing in the long-dead myth of the entrepreneur-inventor supergenius who doesn’t need society, and also believing that you are one of them, while actually being an ignorant, self-centered fool.

Diana-lostandfound #sexist #crackpot

Pretty natural to me, if I do say so myself… Nothing wrong with wanting nothing to do with it but this neophite zeal is real cringe.

Katelin Duggan #conspiracy

Star123Compy #dunning-kruger #fundie

Naah, sorry frater but yeah, it was mostly the sword and the execution tools.

Edward Hudgins #elitist

Rand ended her life on someone else’s mercy and empathy. If you have a problem with the civilization as a concept of people caring for each other, you know which way sawannah is… For all else, ask your masters why they will not pay you a living wage.

Roosh V #fundie #sexist

Diana-lostandfound #sexist #crackpot

Star123Compy #dunning-kruger #fundie

Christianity has existed for ~2,000 years not because of the sword or the pen, but because its ideological views more closely align with objective reality than any other religion

Gee: I guess that’s why there are more churches in Japan than Shinto temples, amirite…?!

Objective reality? Like a guy coming back to life or changing water into wine?

Katelin Duggan #conspiracy

If you go back far enough, I suppose we are all cousins, but at that point, it is pretty much meaningless. And who are Joseph and Patrick?

Star123Compy #dunning-kruger #fundie

Whether or not Christianity would have required the sword, realiter, Christians most certainly have been very much willing and eager to use it once it established itself in power. As for “the pen”… Christianity is based on an extensive corpus of scripture, including the written correspondence of its most influential early missionary, and it has used education and administrative expertise as tools of spreading and perpetuating itself and its power since at least the Carolingians, so whatever the hell this is even supposed to mean, it is even more counterfactual.

PS:
And if “the pen” refers to legislative measures, that started even earlier.

Daniel #fundie

“[Review of Harry Potter]

Harry Potter books are written by an actual practicing witch to indoctrinate our youth.”
You’re a lying sack of shit. She’s not a witch, and the ‘spells’ are largely hamfisted puns. LOTS of hamfisted puns in Harry Potter. Not witchcraft.

“These books contain accurate depictions of ritual magic and satanic doctrines.”
Heard the same thing about D&D most of my life. Pure poppycock.

“Those who say it's "just fiction" need a reality check! Fiction is the best way to promote occult belief systems!”
Actually, no. Studies show that people who play D&D are very knowledgeable about the supernatural, such as silver for werewolves, salt for zombies, garlic for vampires, but they are far, far more likely to recognize it AS fiction.
I suspect the results are the same for Harry Potter.
But, show a study, if you can find one.

“(Just ask Walt Disney. His job as a 33rd degree Freemason was to condition American children to embrace occult themes in entertainment.)”
Yes, yes, I booed the witch at Sleeping Beauty on Ice. But I did not begin to believe that Malificent was real.

“Lots of reviewers who don't know anything about the occult will assure you that this book is not occult doctrine.”
Because it’s so STUPID!

“ That's like a blind person telling you there are no misspellings! Here are the facts; look them up on your own and verify. (Of over 5000 reviews, I can't find ONE that states these facts.)”
Pretty good sign you’re talking out your ass if you’re the ONLY ONE with these facts.

“The cover illustration employs overtly satanic symbols include the lightning bolt on his forehead--a Biblical symbol of Satan (who like lightning fell from heaven).”
Satan’s fall is typically depicted like a meteor, not a lightning bolt, far as I’ve ever seen. So, 0 for 1 on facts.

“There is also the unicorn--a Biblical symbol of the Antichrist (as all witches know).”
Why, then, are virgins able to defeat this antichrist with so much as a touch?
ANd how many witches have you ever met? The ones I knew weren’t really big on bible symbology. They were to busy studying botany.

“This book promotes drug use”
That’s really reaching. Potions are not drugs. They have specific effects and not euphoria or hallucinations.

“The series also features demonic possession,”
Reminds me of the Jack Chick comic where girls say they learned how to use Tarot cards from reading Harry Potter.
You haven’t read the books at fucking all, have you?

“necromancy,”
Yes. There are ghosts. They get information from ghosts, which is literally what necro-mancy means. But then, bible characters also get information from ghosts, so it’s a wash.

“and divination.”
And one of the bible heroes is listed as owning a scrying bowl. Not much flex, here.
You’re just fearmongering and stupidly.

GodsSamus #fundie

“Okay. Evolution's a religion because, although the foundation of mutations is valid and they always occur, they can't change a bacteria into anything BUT a bacteria or any animal into another animal.”
What part of the definition of ‘religion’ is this limitation, then?
And do you have any idea how many experiments you’d need to perform to prove that it could NEVER happen?

“The helioentric model of the universe isn't religious because it makes observations that could have been falsified, yet haven't because they are true.”
The universe is not heliocentric you dumb bunny. The SOLAR SYSTEM fits a heliocentric model.
You really shouldn’t talk about shit so far beyond your understanding.

“Evolutionism just makes excuses.”
I’d ask for examples, but I’ve already thrown up twice today.

“Bow down before the Geologic Column. [bowing emoticon]”
Last I heard, they’ve found the entire Geologic Column in at least six places. So, THAT part’s not a religious tenet. And that’s not part of evolution, anyway.
Man, you’re just fractally wrong, here.

BurningSon #fundie

“Because there is no other God's”
Jesus. There ARE no other GODS, doofus.

“ but the God of Heaven and Jesus Christ,”
Sure, sure. The monotheist version of the triple goddess…

“Ok, answer this: When you pray MagnaGei, do you get a answer from your god(s)?”
Yep. Usually it’s ‘Reply hazy, try again.’ but sometimes i get
‘Ask again later.’ or ‘Better not tell you now.’ Rarely ‘Cannot predict now.’

“I do when I pray to my God in the name of Jesus.”
Well, sure. But do you ever get information you don’t already have?

MrMojoRisin #fundie

"Then a deep voice from all angles said, 'And this proves the existance of god'.”
Yeah, I had an instructor like that, once. Everything he put on the chalkboard was a non sequitur from his lecture. Like, he’d WRITE 4+2=6 and he’d SAY 9/1.5 = 6. Sometimes he meant the addition, sometimes he meant the division.

“It freaked me out quite a bit.”
No, I’ve never been freaked out by a dream I always… Oh. Wait.
One time, I dreamed that Lynn Moody was on my sub and stripping in my workspace and when she stepped out of her panties, she turned into Seaman Lionel Moody from A-Gang. talk about a mood killer.

“I've had things happen to me throughout my life that confirm my beliefs in a higher conciousness.”
And you bring up… a dream.
What’s next, a compelling episode of Supernatural?
An X-Files novel you listened to on audible?
A fortune cookie you’ve kept since a 10-grade trip to the Sheep and Wool Festival?

seer #fundie

“And yes Christian do believe in discrimination.”
Oh, sure. I grew up Mormon.
At least they used to be less interested in hiding it than the rest of you fucks.

“As does Christ: [insert verses about casting non-Christians into fire]...”
The entire point of damnation is that each and every individual receives the totally and perfectly just disposition after they die. Each person goes where they EARNED to go. It’s, like, the exact opposite of discrimination you bigoted, mouth-breathing, lip-reading, finger-spelling, type-casting, brain-dead, self-congratulatory, home-schooled fucking moron.

David J. Stewart #fundie

Okay so I’m not a Christian anymore, and haven’t been in like 15 years, but I can tell you that the NRSV is the most accurate version. the Dead Sea Scrolls weren’t even discovered until the 1940s, ffs. Also the NRSV has translation notes, so… yeah. Obviously I’m an atheist, but if you’re wanting to approach the Bible from a scholarly perspective, NRSV’s the gold standard. KJV is for cultists. And 1611 may as well be 1488, in my opinion.

Then again, why am I wasting my breath on a convicted child molester?

Matt Kane #wingnut #fundie

He has ended eight wars or conflicts since taking office

Every time Dumb Donald (or one of his asskissers) says that, I want to respond “Okay, name them.”

I’ll wait.

Alan #racist

Over here, ‘Over the Pond’: Hepworth Arcade in Hull.

While seeing many changes in establishments throughout the decades, there’s three that still exist from when I was younger (especially with the latter): Farnham’s Audio (high end Hi-Fi equipment), Brantons Jewellers, and Dinsdale’s Joke Shop.

I’ve seen black & Muslim families looking in the window of the latter in that still very Victorian architecture & Grade II listed shopping precinct.

You would see black people in Times Square in New York decades ago, as you will today.

The difference being that part of the Big Apple is very family friendly compared to the sleazy porn shop-riddled area it used to be, OP.

Moral: Times change. You should too.

Mona #conspiracy

“and Bush was briefed about Islamisist planning plane hijackings. he did nothing. this is a fact.”
If the White House knew about 9/11 in advance, I’d have expected a fire evacuation alarm that morning to empty the building OR something like a plumbing problem closing the bathrooms above the fourth floor, whatever.

Or if nothing else, Bush would have had his response planned out, maybe not by him,but someone on his team would have scripted him charging out and taking the day by the hilt, not sitting there, staring into space.

Fullasian #racist

“Do you understand how sexual selection works?”
Men and women choose who they want to have sex at. Terribly compicated…

"When push comes to shove, women are the last flag bearers of human civilization to create life.”
Right now, yes, women can say ‘no’ to men they don’t want to sleep with. Men COULD say no… assuming there are they don’t want to sleep with.

“They are given the duty to weed out bottom of the barrel males.”
Not really a duty. It’s a matter of individual tastes. Some people think various people are bottom of the barrel. Country singers, rappers, atheists, people who beat off gas station storage rooms…

"A man who is confident and well liked will not resort to the interracial marriage market.”
Huh?
My marriage is interracial but I don’t recall attending a market.
I found someone I really liked and…skipping ahead, we have three kids and a 40-year marriage. Nothing about ‘resorting,’ either. I mean, by the time i made it to the Tender in Sctland i had about 7 offers of marriage due to giving back rubs. When a woman asked, I said ‘yes.’
I think you’re talking some outrageous shit, here.

“Very few instances are true love.”
Yes, yes, I trust your ability to detect love and valid it’s authenticity…Based on the skin color of the couple.
I mean, we haven’t run towards each other in a field of daisies, but she has taken me to the ER at 0300 and held my hand. I’ve held her hand through the prep for some major surgeries. if it ain’t ‘real love’ I don’t see the difference.

Brother Nathanael #racist #wingnut #conspiracy

godsfavoritetool #fundie

“What really yanks my chain is when the news media always report about species "adapting to their environment".”
I’m trying to remember the last time i saw ‘species adapting’ on the news… Is this a real problem or did you just make shit up to complain about it?

“This explanation is ALWAYS the first that the reporters will jump to. They act as if there is no possibility whatsoever that maybe - just MAYBE - they were designed that way.”
Ah. But if they suggest that a deity designed a species, someone might sue them, asking them to support that statement. Then what do they do? Which religion, which god, which creation myth do they support? There’s no way they can do that without pissing off the other religious ideologues. Far easier to go with the science, and piss off the dumber creationists.

“I'm always angered when I read these breaking news stories that seem to support the "theory" of evolution,”
OOoooooh. Scare quotes to show that you don’t understand science! That’s SO edgy!

"which everyone knows, has serious flaws and is just one among MANY possible explanations for the origin of living things.”
But the only one that’s REALLY supported by the evidence.

“Why the media can't seem to get its act together and report more objectively, I'll never know.”
By ‘objectively’ you mean, ofcourse, more partisan to your flavor of creationism.

Don O #fundie

“There's no proof that the earth revolves around the sun!”
Okay. There are repeated observations, though, and it’s the explanation that best explains the observations made. But that’s science, and I doubt you’re interested in science, not really.

“It is observed both on earth and from space.”
Yes, that’s what I said. All th e observations match heliocentricity.

“None of Darwin's ideas on evolution have ever been observed anywhere.”
Except where evolution has been observed. I mean, other than, you know, repeatable observations.

Fabio Giuseppe Carlo Carisio #wingnut #quack #conspiracy

If the US really had a bioweapon programs then the laboratories wouldn’t be in Ukraine (where Russian intelligence services might find them) but in the heartland of the USA or in Alaska, far from any settlement.

David J. Stewart #fundie

Why do they assume the King James Bible wasn't corrupted?

Celia Fenn #magick #quack #conspiracy

Follower of Christ #fundie

“Holy Cow, are you dense?”
Is this a question or an insult?

“God does NOT lie.”
God says otherwise.

Prophets are people who way what God tells them to say. Whether it’s the future or the past or the guilty party after a murder, the fact that it’s FROM GOD is what makes them a prophet.
So, what a prophet says something that’s untrue: And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.

“He either can send a decieving influence to those who refuse the truth,”
You think he’s totally honest when he’s causing others to state a mistruth?
Never worked at any Captain’s Mast I ever saw. If you caused someone to lie, it was on you. Whether you expressly said ‘you will say this to the Captain’ or if you let your division officer misunderstand the status when he made the report, it’s not anyone’s fault but your own.

Eric Hovind #conspiracy #fundie #pratt

“If evolution were truly "settled science", as they claim,”
It is settled science, Eric, though I don’t expect YOU to understand.

“ this would be like Astronomy & Physics posting, “Whether you accept it or not, gravity exists!” ...”
Astronomy?
Gravity is a matter of physics.
And, yes, even if you have a superstitious reason to doubt Gravity, it is a fact. And also a theory. I mean, things fall, and things in gravity wells require energy to leave them. But the explanation for why is still theory.

“LOL, No one needs to defend gravity because it’s observable, testable, and repeatable.”
Gravity isn’t repeatable, dork. The TESTS for gravity are repeatable. The observations. If i give you an empty lab, though, can you make your own gravity?

“So why the constant need to prop up evolution?”
Because people like you keep questioning it for no good reason.

“ Maybe it’s because more and more people are starting to see the cracks.”
Maybe it’s because people like you lie about there being cracks…?

“ After 60+ years of teaching it in schools, millions still reject molecules-to-man evolution. That should tell you something.”
There are people alive right now who reject the Oblate Spheroid Earth. What does THAT tell you, besides ‘people are fucking idiots.’

Robert Justice #fundie

“The main problem you have with understanding creationism is that you are still looking at matter and the universe in three dimensions.”
Four. Time.
I know four that exist. And my parents used to listen to 5th Dimension. What else do you have?

“Mathematics shows that there are at least 11 dimensions.”
Okay. And how many can i order a pizza delivered to?
A 10th dimension is about as useful to me as the dimension of ruby red power that Cyclops’ eyes are portals to.

“This would explain how the universe is billions of years old, yet the earth is about ten thousand.”
No, I don’t think it does. We have the evidence that the Earth is billions. Making extra dimensions doesn’t make the evidence go away.

“You also need to explain how such precise organisms such as the brain could have evolved from nothing.”
What’s to explain? Change happens, the better results are retained. Complex brains out-perform the simple ones.

“If this were true, then an explosion at a lumber yard would create a three story house complete with deck and garage.”
OH! By ‘nothing’ you think we mean that the Big Bang is the universe from an explosion. Why bother answering your questions if it’s so obvious that you don’t listen to anything said to you?

“I find it less far reaching on my imagination to accept an all powerful God, than a theory than cannot be duplicated in a test tube and is full of contradictions.”
You can duplicate God in a test tube?
The same God that said Tyre would never be rebuilt?
Same God that said David was paid in darics a few hundred years before Darius invented the coin?
Fix your own contradictions before claiming anyone else has the problem.

David J. Stewart #fundie

As they said 400 years ago: Elizabeth was king, now James is queen.

So I don't know what would be so holy about a Bible translation under his orders. Especially the way you use it to condemn the gays, that's probably your next post. At least those blokes don't touch little girls.

IQ186 #fundie

“[Person asks why should anyone believe in God]”
Good question. Betcha it ain’t answered here.

“The only thing I'm pissed off about is having to live on this planet filled with a bunch other piece of shit human beings.”
Yeah, how DARE god put you down here with, well, everyone else. Your, you know, neighbors.

“God destroyed the entire world with a flood, and his mistake in my opinion was making the world go on afterward.”
Flood to destroy humanity for being guilty of unspecified wickedness.
Then at the wrap party, realized man was just wicked as part of his nature. Yeah, letting us recover, that was the mistake, uh huh.

“If it were me I would not have done that, people aren't worth two cents in my opinion. So believe whatever you want, I don't care.”
So glad to have your permission.
‘If it were me’ i’d probably have forgiven the wickedness. Your judgmental mileage may vary.

“The day for being kind is over,”
Dude, with or without a god, we’re social animals. Being kind to others is how our species beats the tigers, the brush fires, and the telemarketers.

"this world is disgusting beyond belief,”
Back atcha, Saint.

“ people are now slaves, and they are about to become serfs,”
Wouldn’t that be an upgrade for slaves?

“ and be killed. No, the day for being kind is over.”
Remind me not to use your calendar.

Um, not seeing much in the way of reasons to worship gods, though.

Pi Factorial #fundie

“If you seek comfort before you seek Truth, you do not worship my God.”
I don’t worship your god BECAUSE i sought the truth, thanks.

“If you value the love of yourself - or even the love of others - before the love of God, you do not practice my faith.”
I’m real.
You’re real.
Everyone between us and around us is real.
God? Not really convinced, you know?

“If you think we have any obligation to associate with you just because you call yourself a Christian, consider this - you aren't a Christian, you never were a Christian, you do not belong in the Church, and unless you're willing to change, consider yourself excommunicated.”
Consider this: You’re not the one who decides who is and isn’t Christain. God’s very clearly the only authority on that. Jesus talked a bit about people who THINK they’re on The List, but Jesus doesn’t even have them on his Christmas Card list.
This arrogance will probably be reflected in your eventual disposition. If there is one.

“I'm not kidding. Go. We don't need you.”
I’m not kidding, either. You have no idea what you need.