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Sc1t0r #fundie forums.christianity.com

[...] Is a husband, pinning his wife down to have sex with her rape? What defines rape in a marriage?

When she says, "No."?

See, even then, I have a problem with it. A wife and husband are to give to each other of this. If a man is pinning her down, yet lovingly trying to... ehh it's too "grey". I hate it. It's of Satan,and the liberals are holding hands with Satan on this one.. destroy marriage with "rights" and villifying your spouse. Satanswants to break down the church and marriage. He wants us to think we don't need God, or each other....

The notion of marital rape. It's almost an oxymoron. It actually sounds like a litigous term used by 3rd Reich Femi-Nazi Women's Lib Czar's who hate God, burn flags, don't eat meat, and glorify same sex sexual relationships.

Disgusting.

Yes, it would be insensitive and unloving for a man to force his wife to do something sexual. If he took a gun or another inanimate object out and threatened her life, or her health, yes, that could be seen as rape. Yet, if he was aggressive in order to persuade her, I could see that as a wonderful thing. Wonderful? YES.. because that could be the answer to some dynamic in thier relationship. [...]

Dakotasunbeam #fundie forums.christianity.com

[if one had already fornicated with a bf/gf but knows that he/she is not the right one, is it right to break up? or must it be that whoever you lost your virginity to should rightfully become your husband/wife?]

[...] Saying someone is "not the one" is not your place to say, if you have already had sexual relations with the person. You may know that you do not really want to marry X individual, or you do not have "feelings" for this person beyond physical, but there is such a thing as doing what is right even when it hurts.

Remember, "The one" is not a fantastic superhuman floating in the nebula, it is "the one" you marry. Unlike other strange scenarios that can present itself in life, which may require some deep and thorough study of the Bible, your particular situation was actually addressed in the Bible. The solution is provided as well.

It is now your choice whether you will follow that solution.

Shanobeigh #fundie forums.christianity.com

We have 2 daughters A, who is 17 & H who is 14, both of whom have been raised in a Christian home & both accepted Jesus at the age of 5. Our 14 year old says that she now considers herself an agnostic. My husband & I are sick about this. We don't quite know what to do. Our oldest daughter says she thinks that her sister is afraid of being made fun of @ school (this is her 1st year in high school) & is only saying she's agnostic so no one knows she's a practicing Christian (she still goes to youth group & listens to Christian music groups like Disciple, Dizmas, Fireflight, Red, Project 86, etc.).

Have any of you dealt with this with your own children, how did you handle it & what was the outcome? I am at a loss... if I try to force feed her, she may completely rebel & turn from God entirely. I know that our ultimate weapon as Christians is prayer & that God promises us in Acts 16:31 that he will save our entire household, but other than prayer, what, if anything should I do???

Blessings!

Flintejae #fundie forums.christianity.com

All state institutions (or that get governmental aid) have to agree that homosexuality is right and 'okay' and that will go against many foundational doctrines. So, in essence, the schools, government places, will have to chose between moral values or money (Or shut down).

icebear #fundie forums.christianity.com

The story of the flood is a true story, described in the literature of many nations. Noah survived it, and tiny handsful of others apparently did as well, but not many. Whether or not the flood and the events surrounding it were visited upon the Earth as punishment for sin I don't have an opinion. The one thing it might plausibly have been a punishment for to my thinking would have been man himself beginning to learn how to re-engineer living forms and misusing the skill to devise things like chiggers, ticks, and biting flies. There is no reasonable way to believe that a loving God created those kinds of things. But that's just a guess, I wasn't there.

country83 #fundie forums.christianity.com

['A subset of U.S. citizens believes that the universe and all its inhabitants were created, literally in their current form, within the past 10,000 years, not billions of years ago...']

This is the part that bothers me. A "subset"? Does this mean I'm now a "substandard" citizen?

KenNielsen #fundie forums.christianity.com

[On Muslims]

These people do not believe there is a God or a devil, but if there were a devil they are sure that we are it. Being put to death is an extreme that is against our laws and brings about no chance to witness.

I think the only way to witness to someone who is trying to kill you is to kill them first. This is why we are at war with these people right now. All they understand is death.

Sypher2k3 #fundie forums.christianity.com

Yes, Lust is evil inside marriage. Lust is evil. And no, I am not saying just because something is natural it is evil, but you are suggesting that just because something is natural it is NOT evil, and I am ripping your idea into pieces because that idea deserves to burn forever. Married couples do not lust after one another they love.

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

Stop justifying your way of clothing yourself to the beach with today's sports, culture, location and blah, blah, blah. Again and again God does not make exceptions and the word of God does not contradicts it self. We all can see how guilty this subject is making you. Jesus can still forgive you for not thinking about others that may have lusted because of you. When you are at your judgement day and you are asked why you provoke others to lust by what you wore, are you going to answer with?: Well the sport require me to wear it. A man made sport (culture) Excuses.

Johnix #fundie forums.christianity.com

The North American culture is full of pornography and look at the divorce rate and STD problems. I couldn't imagine a culture were teen boys and men could walk past topless or naked women and say 'that is normal' 'no big deal' or not think anything of it at all.

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

Was the person that invented those sports thinking about what pleases God? or Was the person that invented those outfits or uniform thinking of what pleases God? No! They were thinking about style, fashion and comfort. Sports or water sports can be played with different clothing, maybe not as comfortable but still possible, but again they are not thinking about people lusting, or holyness or God. They more thinking about winning and comfort. What's first? Salvation or Winning the game or even playing the game. If the sports requires you to wear bathing suits kind of clothing or anything that shows too much skin making it provocative don't play it. Yes I said DON"T PLAY IT!!! All you have given me are excuses to justify the outfits. The word of God doesn't contradicts itself or make exception about this. You have a hard time accepting it because you have lived thinking like this for a while, but if you really want to follow Christ, follow Him all the way and not half way. I answer you a few post back (the ones that matters) but you are the one not reading them. I live in Puerto Rico and we have all the water sports you have @ the main land (P.R. U.S. Territory) We are not some third world country were we don't have water sports, but to me doesn't make a difference if I live close to the beach to understand your point. You asked: Should gymnasts wear spacesuits? You really sound smart asking this...sad.Man made sports = culture doesn't justify wearing whatever you want. Please stop making excuses. Please find me in the Bible were it says is ok to show lots of skin. Where does God make the exception ? You have indeed shamed yourself.

Johnix #fundie forums.christianity.com

Don't feel to bad, there are still decent respectable people out there. In Ontario some women wanted to go topless everywhere and the decent people went against it and it wasn't allowed except on some beaches.... All the men I talked to said that the women who wanted to go topless were the ones who should least be topless. Some people are just so totally selfish and devoid of morals.... When my wife goes to the beach or the public pool she wears a bathing suite with a skirt thing. My wife has large breasts and some men may stare at her for that reason but my wife has taken resposibility in dressing properly so if a man stares it truly is his problem and not my wifes.

bboudrot #fundie forums.christianity.com

Why not go back further than that [Victorian times]? Technically Israel could have worn skimpy clothes but they didn't. There was no law against it other than the fact that were not to learn the ways of the nations that surrounded them.

Pollyanna #fundie forums.christianity.com

you can argue with Brave or you can argue with the Bible and what it says.it says for us women to be modest in our outfits-period. it doesnt say what outfit to wear ,just be modest. Is it so hard for some of yall to figure that out? Maybe some of you dont WANT the truth-thats why you are getting all hot and bothered about it.... my 13 yr. old son has more sense than some of you. He said why would a lady walk around on the beach with her butt hanging out? he said it looks ridiculous. Now what do some of you say to that - kids some times get it before the grown ups- that says a lot. Dont defend sin and call your self a Christian.

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

[Read it and weep. Posters at the Christianity.com boards weigh in on the evil of women wearing bikinis.]This is a subject everyone is too afraid to talk about. But I think is wrong for christian woman to wear those bikini bathing suits. I think they invented them to attract more man to the beach and use it as an excuse to call it bathing suits and look at the women's body parts. Short beach pants would do just fine but some women prefer to be walking around on panties and bra.How can woman walk around while their vagina shape and size is been shown to everyone at the beach. Sorry to be so graphic but I want you all to get my point. There is no difference between that and regular underwear. But hey, is ok if you are at the beach or pool blah ,blah blah, 'Hypocrites!' Why be tempted, I don't care how christian you are but if you see a woman wearing a bathing suit you look down at her vagina part and your mind starts rolling with sexual thoughs Matthew 5: 27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[5] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. God wants us to cover our body no matter where you at. If God wanted us to just barely cover our private parts then why he gave Adam and Eve animal skin to cover their bodies instead of leaves.... The location were you wear your clothing doesn't make it right and acceptable. Those type of clothing reveals your body shape with great detail. Follow this rule, Look at your self in the mirrow and ask your self: ' Would I wear this to go to church?' If your answer is no than don't wear it. Don't wear clothing that might tempt other man to lust. If is too tight or too short is unacceptable. Yes I speak mainly towards woman's clothing because: 1. Man's clothing (real man) is not tight or short 2. God didn't make our bodies sexually beautiful to look at.

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

I know many 'Christian' females that dress certain way outside the church. (i.e. tight jeans, little open blouses, shorts that are too short , skirts that are very short...) Then they dress differently when they go to church service. They don't realize that they are been hypocrites. The same way you dress to church is the same way you should dress when you out of church. (yes, even if you wear an Astronaut suit to church)

gdrumm #fundie forums.christianity.com

If you are a Christian woman, there should be some degree of modesty, the same as if you are a Christian man. You would not want to cause another to stumble. What if you are a Christian woman, you're proud of your body, and wear a skimpy bikini to the beach. And a young Christian (young as in he just came to Christ) sees you and goes home and masterbates, thinking about you in that skimpy bikini. Have you caused him to sin? Perhaps you did not participate directly in his sin, i.e. you were not there actually having intercourse with him. But the picture in his mind is of you in that bikini. And as a result of his self sexual gratification he stumbles and loses his faith because he thought God had delivered him from his sin, now he feels shame, remorse, guilt, and he feels like a pervert. So he leaves the church. How can he go to the same church with you after what he has done?

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

Beachwear? What a poor excuse. Did woman had beachwear back in the bible days? Bikinis? God ways does not change with culture and culture is made up of man's ideas. You are just another victim that was made believe thru culture that it is ok to barely cover your self. Are the man at the beach any different from the one's on the street? You provoke man to look at you in lustful ways and sin. The word of God talks about not making others sin.

theonlyinfini #fundie forums.christianity.com

Jesus encountered a ‘nudist’ [the Legion demoniac] during his travels. Before he cast the spirit out of the man, the man was naked. Funny how AFTER the spirits were cast out, verse 35 says that the man was ‘CLOTHED and in his right mind’. Maybe no one else will see the significance of this statement, but I sure do. There’s nothing modest about nudity or bikinis either. If it didn't happen yesterday, it could happen today. Look for it!

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

Beach shorts for swimming for both male and females do exist. They are all over the internet surf shops. They are neither as pretty, comfortable or popular but who cares, we are christians and we don't follow culture or fashion but we follow Christ So STOP! putting more excuses and thinking of comfort , fashion, styles,colors and blah, blah, blah. God is a God of freedom, meaning he lets us make our own choices, but that does not mean all our choices please him because then this world would be perfect place. We must sacrifice some of our given freedom and obey God ways because that is what He wants us to do.

BraveErudite #fundie forums.christianity.com

Think peolple think' look at all the avenues and don't have such a simple mind. That little effort can save that persons soul (and yours), How about if Christ comes the second after the person next to you saw you on a bathing suit and lusted.

Sypher2k3 #fundie forums.christianity.com

Well, lust was the only thing I was talking about. And it was in response to a statement regarding lust. I should've clarified: I am talking about the desires of the human nature shown to be evil, like lust. Which some people don't choose to agree are evil. Why? Because they serve the devil.

deliveranceminister #fundie forums.christianity.com

We are to cast out demons. Jesus said to do this mark 16:17. We can not expect God to do the work for us. If a Christian opens a door for demons he will be under attack. Have you had a pepsi lately? There is the yin and yang symbol on it. If you have brought it into your house with that cursed symbol on it you will be cursed also wheather you are a Christian or not... There is plenty of scripture that proves what I say. There is too much to write in this little space. Ok, Please give me a chance. I know what I'm talking about. I have experience casting out the demonic. I have seen things you would not believe.

deliveranceminister #fundie forums.christianity.com

I have a lot of experience with the demonic and know what I'm talking about. You might be getting your information from a Pastor that does not know about demons. Most Pastors don't study the subject about deliverance or how demons operate. You are making a big mistake if you don't do what Jesus Christ said to do [perform exorcisms]. Learn about this or you are against Christ. I don't think you want to do that.

deliveranceminister #fundie forums.christianity.com

Hello everyone, I am Helena , a Deliverance Minister in New Jersey... Yes, every Christian must learn how demons operate . You must be prepared to teach someone how to cast out demons... Do you know what the legal grounds demons have to stay in a person, land or home are? You could give demons legal grounds to stay in you or your home even if you or your relative has used a Ouiji Board ,Martial Arts, Yoga, Fornication only once. Have you read your horoscope in the newspaper at all in the past? Guess what ? You gave demons legal rights to be inside you. Deuteronomy 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house( The pepsi can has yin and yang symbol sideways on it,the color of the symobl should be white and black but is red , white and blue.) lest thou be a cursed thing lke it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it, for it is a cursed thing. Priase God!!!! THANK YOU LORD FOR YOU WORD...AMEN...AMEN... Did you know that there was a cursed object on the Pepsi can, Salem cigarettes and Norton anti-virus box? The symbol is anti-christian. If you brought anything in your home with these symbols You had better be doing Deliverance in your home because you just gave demons the legal right to stay. You invited them in. Even if you are a Christian or not or you knew it or not. Getting headaches? Bad dreams? forgetful? Hmm!!!

Iamok #fundie forums.christianity.com

well my favorite subject is warefar Love it. God told me 'You are mighty warrior and I am all Mighty God do not be intimidated and do not fear' Love it and amen! God bless you all praise His name ans speak forth His testimonies tells of His love tell of His miricles. I have cast demons out of people and even some so called teachers and preachers. Hum? May we all be given the gift of seeing into the spirit realm.

Yahweh Saves #fundie forums.christianity.com

I can agree that it is certainly irritating when demons put thoughts in your head, stupid thoughts! For example, for a while there, when I would turn the stove burner on and it would glow this nice bright red, this thought would pop into my mind for no reason, 'You should touch that. It won't hurt.' (Keeping in mind I've NEVER had any self-harm issues!) I'm like 'I'm not stupid, of course I'm not going to touch that! Get out of here, Satan, in the Name of Yahweh!' Dumb stuff and impulses like that do often come from the enemy!

GPickypick #fundie forums.christianity.com

Here’s something that might help. For every stroke [when you masturbate] just think about a strip put on the back of Jesus for the sins you have done in life and should be getting. HUM. Bet that pressure will ease off then...!!! when you close your eyes and think the things you may be thinking about just start thinking about the blood running down the back of Jesus as the whip cut into his back.

Xinhong #fundie forums.christianity.com

i never ever believe in evolution. What an insult. I came from a monkey. how do you like that? Darwin even admits at the end of his evolution book that so many facts and findings have been against his theory of evolution. Athiest are the only thing in the world that would believe in evolution because they want to evolve and evolve until they reach a level of Godhood. their pride and trying to understand God's creation with their puny minds have given birth to this theory... what a pity for those scientist to learn that ,' shoot! i wasted my life studying crap' when they come face to face with their creator. sigh.

Xinhong #fundie forums.christianity.com

The big banf causes chaos, not order. make sure there i snothing in your house and just wait for the newest flat screen TV to pop out. then try waiting for 10000 years if it does not appear. Because the blind faith necessary for the evolutionary process to be believable is to wait 250 million years.

Xinhong #fundie forums.christianity.com

Dr kent hovin pointed out that when dinosaur bones were found, they were not carbon dated because the results would only be a few thousand years old. Because this would not match the assumed age based on the geologic column and so they use another method whcih would give an age closer to the desired result.

Doxy_Brown #fundie forums.christianity.com

Satan and his demons are responsible for...: An animal behaving in a strange manner, being more friendly with you than normal, like a squirrel dancing with you, or an owl talking to you telepathically, or a spider or insect acting strangely with you or communicating telepathically, or seeing birds or animals appear frequently that have some symbolic meaning to you.

Xinhong #fundie forums.christianity.com

If you can pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to believe, I think you are very very wrong. Science in the end is man trying to discover a God-made field. To think that man who are as fallen as you and I, who have brains just as puny or maybe a mere percent better is the Lord of science and in it lies all truth is totally stupid. Again i say, show me empirical evidence. Also, what's your problem with the Bible. You better than God now?

kayninex #fundie forums.christianity.com

before i became a Christian about March/April 2003, i was surrounded by demons all the time. i could give y'all stories for hours on all the things demons have put in my head. i remember one time i was in a short helicopter ride in Wisconsin. i was sitting in the front, and all of a sudden something was telling me to reach over and turn the key, but if i did, we would crash... i've had so many images of killing people in school. drive-by's, stabbing, cutting throats, and just straight up slaughtering my enemies in school. Demons even had me beating my dog... i get a voice that says 'slap him,' so as i'm petting him, suddenly i get evil and i slap him across the face, and then i start laughing... i dropped my dog from the second floor to the first floor twice, and the second time one of his back legs got dislocated. i was scared and sad and mad at myself... Demons are definitely real, but once you become a good christian, they can't do what they used to.

GPickypick #fundie forums.christianity.com

You are using body parts in ways that they were not intended to be used. Justify it all you want, but it's not right. When you say you're 'thinking about your wife', you're using your imagination, not reality, and that's very, very dangerous. Pleasing you is your WIFE'S job, not yours. Anything else is wrong.

GPickypick #fundie forums.christianity.com

Masturbation will wreck you. It will destroy you. There can't be anything on earth that makes you feel more guilty, or anything that has to be kept as more of a secret, or something that's harder to cope with because you don't feel like you can tell anyone. I'm going on 14 months free of this horrifying disease. Praise Jesus, who set me free.

Tim2002 #fundie forums.christianity.com

That's right! Rock music is of the devil! I will not apologize for saying it so bluntly, and I will not back off on my convictions on music. Maybe there have been some genuine conversions through 'Christian' rock music, but it still is not right to convey God's message through a sinful music style.

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