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RE: What's going on in Ukraine and Russia?

More sexual morals = less HIV

High IQ religious countries will have the lowest rates and low IQ countries with populations who are not religious or do not follow religion properly will have the most.

Czechia is like the most irreligious place in Europe and we are the greenest

Czechia is high IQ

Russia has significantly higher IQ than your bulgaria

Bulgarians are more socially conservative. Also it is not a normal bell curve in Bulgaria with IQ because Bulgarian ethnic average is 96 and gypsy ethnic average is 65 so low IQ problems will be isolated to just one small part of the population

cope

Wdym cope? We are talking about why Bulgaria has lower HIV rates then Russia.

If you are just talking about IQ separately then yes ethnic Russians have higher IQ then ethnic Bulgarians on average, but both of our averages are dragged down by minorities. Russian ethnic IQ (98-100) is also higher then the average IQ of Russian citizens (96)

Poverty is the most reason of hiv and other diseases

You don’t get HIV from being poor.

but poor people get hiv more than other because of low standards of living

People who do drugs become poor. People who are low IQ and low impulse control become poor. Drug addicts and people with low impulse control are more likely to get HIV. A poor person with high IQ/impulse control is less likely to get HOV then a rich person with low IQ/low impulse control

Afghanistan

Afghanistan is one of the most religious countries in the world

Bad education and culture not low IQ.

No, low IQ. IQ was proved to be genetic

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Ok, wow, that takes some serious delusions on the part of the OP to get to THAT conclusion based on this graph (it’s pseudoscientific in the first place, but let’s just assume it isn’t).

First of all it’s certainly not very “high IQ” to take two measurements and throw them together haphazardly, one of which is not even portrayed in the graph and probably couldn’t even be measured. The OP never gives any definition of “high” and “low IQ” countries, aside from it apparently being the average of the entire country? And what kind of IQ test or study does he get that data from? Hopefully one that eliminates the bias of using it on all these very different cultures! Not to mention that he seems to believe that country populations are a single homogeneous mass… I could go on.

So then, to his “hypothesis”: Higher “amounts” of sexual morals (apparently highly conservative, patriarchal morals, though I have to guess that from context, so another point against him) correlate negatively with HIV prevalence in larger groups. Later added additional ad-hoc hypothesis: “High IQ” also lowers HIV prevalence, whatever that means. That second one is painfully necessary, because NOTHING in the above graph shows the first one to be true. Relatively non-religious states like the western european states, Canada and New Zealand, which are pretty lenient towards sexuality nowadays, have very low HIV rates, while the much more religious US, many african states and Russia have quite the higher percentage.

It gets worse, confronted with this fact the OP tries to sell not one but actually two additional ad-hoc addendums: 1) That it also has to do with the average intelligence of the country and 2) To not have to admit that Russia for example, a deeply conservative, authoritarian and nowadays relatively religious country thanks to Putin’s unholy love affair with the orthodox church is either still high in HIV prevalence or has to be a low IQ country (both would be detrimental to his views), he distinguishes between “ethnic” and “general” Russian IQ. So it’s just the foreigners and minorities who drag right-wing’s favorite country down.

So he moves the goalpost multiple times, his hypothesis is falsified immediately by the graph he himself provided, and his ad-hoc addendums are just that and lack data, context and are also ethnicist to boot.

The less said about his view that “IQ” is genetic (I guess he still means the average IQ of countries?) the better. Hint: It has not been proven and what he actually means is that it is heritable (that it might have a genetic component wouldn’t favor his argumentation at all, though heritability wouldn’t either really… I think he actually just doesn’t care.)

Delusions upon delusions. That’s all this is. If I had to take an educated guess (NOTHING more) I would say HIV prevalence most likely correlates negatively with levels of (sex) education and use of safe sex techniques. And that’s probably it.

@ChrisBP747 #89717

Thanks for your post - absolutly nothing to add here.

@ChrisBP747 #89717

AWESOME ON ALL COUNTS. YOU HAVE THE PERFECT RETORT.

Sure, I could admit religious conservatism might prevent some undesirable behaviour but safe sex methods also have an efficiency.

And no, the original IQ map wasn’t accurate to begin with.

As for the rest, @ChrisBP747 did it better.

More sexual morals = less HIV
High IQ religious countries will have the lowest rates and low IQ countries with populations who are not religious or do not follow religion properly will have the most.

So if religion and “high IQ” (and we all know you mean “white” by that) provide such good “sexual morals” that prevent STD spread, why was syphilis endemic throughout Europe from Columbus to the early 20th Century?