Lefties cannot write Superman
He is the absolute ideal of everything that they never can be
This is why they hate him (and themselves) and make excuses of not being able to come up with convincing stories for him to cover for their own weakness
This is why over and over again he is either depowered or you get the evil Superman syndrome
Take a look John Ridley, you phaggot, and see how aweful goodness is
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…Uhm, have you ever read a Superman story? Pretty sure the Blue Boyscout is rather “leftist” himself in his beliefs. He supports liberty, equality, justice, peace, and once even renounced his american citizenship so he can be a symbol for ALL of humanity.
If anything stories like “Injustice”, where he becomes corrupted by power have him outright turn into a fascist dictator.
I do agree that “Dark Superman” has been overdone, and what remains to be explored of that trope space is probably better served by doing it with Superman expies than the actual character. For example, Homelander from The Boys. And the disempowered Superman stories are usually about how, even without most or all of his powers, he’s still a hero.
But even the normal Superman has always been anti-racist and anti-fascist, and in the past few decades he’s been pro-LGBTQ+ as well. Sounds fairly liberal to me.
<@Malingspann > #128029
Oh my god, that would be pants-shittingly terrifying if you ask me. Giving Donald Trump godlike power? It reminds me of the “Emperor Joker” story (*). Or to a lesser degree, “Tighten” from Megamind (**)…
(*)Where the Joker got reality-warping powers.
(**)Pretty much what if a true Incel got the powers of Superman and decided to act on his urges.
I’m not exactly one of the all-knowing gatekeepers of comics fandom but dude, seriously? Do you not even know who made the character? Or how he’s been portrayed over the years? From his story origins as a refugee from another civilization and real world origins as a product of the minds of two dirt-poor “nerds” from Jewish families that fled religious bigotry (one of them born in Canada before moving to Ohio and in a strange coincidence their fathers were both tailors by trade) Superman was pretty much the definition of how liberals idealized the American dream from day one and pictured someone who would otherwise have had nothing welcomed with open arms into a fair chance at life grow to have every advantage possible but then using their newfound power selflessly for the sake of others so they can pursue their own lives freely because that’s what they thought their adoptive home did for them and took that hope to heart.
Is the pure power fantasy and idea that he was just born better than everyone - notably naturally better than the Americans who took him in - literally the only part of him you identify with? It seems you’re downright furious all that character and wholesome humanity and humble appreciation for his adoptive parents and home gets in the way of imagining him act like an omnipotent two year old who simply cannot be meaningfully held to consequence. Superman doesn’t exist to fulfill your own sick daydreams of stomping all over anyone who told you to reign it in. From this attitude and how you portray the “leftist” idea of a man with morals it’s easy to say the conservative view of the American dream is that it’s unattainable to anyone not born to it and the powerful must smack it out of the hands of the weak and stomp them into the mud where they “belong” instead of acting at their protector. Who wasn’t born an American. So it’s the explicit exaltation of hypocrisy.
Try the Spectre instead. The unhinged, amoral, mass-murdering embodiment of retribution of explicitly divine origin with the mind of a crooked cop from the 30’s who couldn’t give a fig who gets hurt as long as his personal take on justice is satisfied and yet is still somehow one of the “good” guys. Even though one of his arch enemies is basically exactly the same thing - responsible for the Biblical flood no less - but considered evil. Sounds more your thing.
<@Zinnia > #128026
yeah been written by two Jewish Americans very likely influenced that as they had to deal with bigotries directed at them alot, especially by the Nazis and KKK (the latter of whom I know they wrote about in a manner that made fun of them). But overall I (just as alot of folks here) argue that Superman is far more left-leaning in his politics than alot of comic fans would think but because they often put themselves in his shoes they also typically think of him as being more in lean with them politically when his actions over the years seem to indicate otherwise.
Alot of heroes can be viewed as being fairly left-leaning in some sense, though it varies depending upon who you are talking about, Flash has recently been depicted as having a black wife (via changing his wife’s race from a blond white man to a dark-haired black woman but still keep their backstory as close childhood friends) for the past decade or so and was a scientist himself so you can imagine him not being all that religious, or at least not hold fundamentalist opinions. Batman, despite being wealthy typically spends a good chunk of his income on various charities meant to address poverty and I’d wager that some of that money is spend trying to push for greater social welfare policies all in an attempt to deal with crime aside from just beating the crap out of them (though he varies ALOT so it depends on what kind of story one is talking about). Though not all are like this, especially heroes who come from either semi-divine or are outright monarchs like Wonderwoman (while she can be considered a feminist, she also came from a island ruled/controlled by women, the Amazonians at that, so that’s likely to influence her views and often depicted as having some fairly sexist views towards men though not nearly as bad as other Amazonians) and Aquaman
It seems that fighting for justice and protecting the weak is an universal factor, along with the idea that anyone most gifted than the average, either in wealth (Batman), by innate factors (Superman) or acquired ones (Spiderman) has the duty to serve the society he lives in.
It would even be claimed superhero histories are to America what mythology was to Ancient Greeks.
“Lefties cannot write Superman. He is the absolute ideal of everything that they never can be”
<@Passerby > #128037
Try the Spectre instead. The unhinged, amoral, mass-murdering embodiment of retribution of explicitly divine origin with the mind of a crooked cop from the 30’s who couldn’t give a fig who gets hurt as long as his personal take on justice is satisfied and yet is still somehow one of the “good” guys. Even though one of his arch enemies is basically exactly the same thing - responsible for the Biblical flood no less - but considered evil. Sounds more your thing.
Good choice. Or Marvel’s Punisher, who is basically the embodiment of every NRA wank fantasy of being a “good guy with a gun” going around and murdering all the people he doesn’t like criminals.
<@Timjer > #128031
Tragically, the kind of person who would give Trump Superman’s supreme powers would use it in small heroics.
I mean, he COULD solve all the wars and corruption in both Americas, but he’d just build a 100-foot wall across the Mexican border.
He COULD provide super-advanced technology or build an orbital power station, to solve world energy, but he’d just fly out to the asteroid belt, get big lumps of Space Coal, and drop that on land he owns. To sell to the coal industry.
He COULD broker a peaceful solution to any conflict, but he’d probably just fly to the borders and use his super-breath to blow refugees back to the shithole country and their shithole problems.
And if anyone bitched, he’d eye-beam their optic nerves. Not teach the liberals, both the one that objected and anyone else harboring doubt, that his way is the correct way, for America or for the World, just turn any objecting brain to super-saturated steam because fuck you liberals. And post the pics to SuperTrueTwitter, which IS hosted on an orbital platform so no one can interfere with it.
...meanwhile, the legacy of Stan Lee.
Just as Jewish - and socio-politically aware - as Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, OP.
<@Peacemonger373 > #128099
I didn't count that as 1)his parents were abusive and 2) depending on political and religious views, the right wing might duscount it altogether. Unless they were liberal atheists or Muslim or Pagan.
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