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( RusticTroglodyte )
Half are incels, half are neo-nazis, all are pornsick

( RuneOwl )
Most TIMs are incel-ish because they’re terminally online creeps with weird fetishes who aren’t any normal person’s idea of a good potential partner. But some of them quite literally are coming from the incel ranks—transing themselves (“trannymaxxing”) is considered a strategy to escape inceldom. A few of them are so desperate for physical contact they’ll even accept sex from men despite not previously being gay.

Incels will try literally anything as long as it’s not putting genuine effort into becoming a healthy, well-adjusted person.

( VestalVirgin )
Why not just have sex with men without transing themselves beforehand, tho?

I'd assume there's loads more gay men who want to seduce a straight guy than there's trans chasers who are into mutilated genitals.

( DurableBook )
Counterpoint: If only.

It's an actual cliche the number of men who discover their "trans identity" while their wife is pregnant or shortly after she gives birth.

If you ever want to ruin your day, search "wife pregnant" on r/MTF for pages of examples.

( MissBehaved )
They get off on women's weakness, pain, and suffering, pregnancy and childbirth being chief among those. They secretly desire to hurt their wives during sex (but she'd leave over it) so they relish the idea of her being torn in her most sensitive of parts. Don't get me started on the breastfeeding fetish, which goes hand in hand. Then they trans themselves to imagine themselves being their wife, imagining her in pain, attempting to relive what they never lived, all for the boner it always gave them and the idea they are doing it to her somehow.