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In response to "Trans people have a right to exist!"
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( Spencer_Shayy )
Not to nitpick, but I actually disagree with this. The "transgender" identity DOES rely on the validation of others to exist, because without it, "transwomen" are just normal men and "transmen" are just normal women. That's why they cry "genocide" when they're not affirmed.

( no- )
“Society makes it so hard for trans people to exist in peace”. How? By noticing a TIM’s male voice, his male face, his entire male existence? By refusing to pretend that someone is the opposite sex? By not wasting my mental energy training myself to see men as women and use pronouns that don’t make sense? They’re not asking for acceptance, they want you to brainwash yourself and participate in their role-playing, and you’re not allowed to ask questions because the answers are always lies.

( Tanana )
Transness is a parasite identity, it does depend on everyone's compliance to play their game. If we stop to play along, the whole fiction dies. Transness is the ultimate needy-narcissistic personality.

( sylviasmushrooms )
I love what this is trying to get across, but those of us who are hip to the plot of this whole stupid thing are aware that TRAs’ favorite thing to do is redefine and corrupt language.

We (reasonably) push back on this claim of existence, because obviously there is a 200 lb man in a babydoll dress sucking all the air out of the room right in front of us. He exists.

He does not exist the way he sees himself and/or the way he wants other people to perceive him. In that way, according to these language claims, his existence is being denied. It’s seeing the man and refusing to acknowledge him as your queen.

( tuff_terfies )
[...] We are only too aware of trans people and their demands--pronouns, cis, blah blah. What we are saying is not to step on women's right to exist. Yet they set the terms of their mutual exclusion, not us. It just proves that all "isms" are projection (e.g. Latino/as do all the work Euro-anglos don't/won't do but they are 'lazy'). Pure psychological projection; they need us to say WE DON'T EXIST so that they can colonize our lives and experiences. It is the extension of the logic of misogyny that denies our humanity.

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