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Or did World War II make the world free for international Marxism?

Nope. You conflating everything you personally don’t like with Marxism that makes it look that way from your incorrect point of view.

Or did World War II make the world free from God’s laws and the Christian law order that dominated for one thousand years prior?

If your knowledge of history prior to WWII is limited to Christian lands it might look that way but even that is an illusion. Christian law was Roman law with some Christian religious bits stamped on it.

But what if liberal democracy, international cooperation, and multiculturalism imposed upon nations could be just as bad as the Nazis? What about that?

It can’t. The real problem is that you can’t just make a country a liberal democracy, many countries became democracies only to fall back into authoritarian governments of one sort of another because the country and population wasn’t ready.

What if the fundamental problem of Germany was 40 years of dabbling homosexuality, naturalistic evolution, or just good old-fashioned Christian apostasy, and a rejection of Jesus Christ, a national pride, and favoring of traditional civilization rooted in paganism as opposed to God’s law revealed in the Old and New Testaments?

It wasn’t. The Nazis worked with the Protestant churches and the Catholic church during WWII, neither opposed the Nazi in general until it was clear the war was over. The single biggest problem was the Treaty of Versailles was badly written. It both imposed harsh economic conditions on Germany and gave them every reason to get out from under the treaty violently.

Donald Trump #wingnut #racist

SocDems win again and you are shitting your diaper, you little fuck. Prepare for the
US to become a socialist state in a decade or so the way things are going.

Patrick Bet-David #sexist #transphobia

Tate ain’t a defender of anyone, right now he’s a very sulky prison bitch.

Joan Ocean #conspiracy #magick

“Travel 300 miles a day on foot.”

Why would you do that if you can de-and-re-materialize at will anywhere?

Kevin Swanson #wingnut #homophobia #forced-birth #conspiracy

“But what if liberal democracy, international cooperation, and multiculturalism imposed upon nations could be just as bad as the Nazis? What about that?”

Nothing, because it wasn’t. NEXT!

TylerNull #fundie

“Pagan worship is a signature trait of Atheist devotees.”
Someone is confused about words and their usage.

“Some worship trees or their crotch.”
Oooooh. You think environmentalism is a religion.
But it’s Christains who worship their dicks. They keep chipping away at any woman’s right that means they can say ‘no’ to a male.

“Others worship molecules, like CO2 or CFCs.”
Yeah,not wanting my granddaughter to die in a war over water is not a religion.

“Their "ozone-hole" mantra was federally enforced, damaging both A/C efficiency & air quality.”
And was a textbook case of success. Saw the problem, identified the issue, solved it, all better.

“Ayatollah Albert Arnold "Celcius" Gore, Jr. prophesizes an armageddon by angry thermometer gods lest we criminalize capitalism -- the engine that powers humanity.”
No, we don’t have to be capitalists to power humanity. Jesus was pretty socialist, really.

“Atheism is just a fascist religion; akin to Islam.”
Words. If you find them in the dictionary, there a more words right behind them telling you the definition…

Mellowmarionettematrix #crackpot

Tatsuya Ishida #racist #conspiracy

Mellowmarionettematrix #crackpot

Elizabeth Nickson #wingnut #racist #conspiracy

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #elitist #psycho #racist

In addition to the points made earlier, did anyone else notice the similarities with the scene in 1984 of O’Brien interrogating Winston in Room 101?

Manifestation Magic #magick

Tatsuya Ishida #racist #conspiracy

aerospacemajor #fundie

“God is a myth?!”
Gods. all of them are, near as I can tell.

“Billions of people down through the ages disagree with you.”
Okay. People worshiped the gods of Egypt for about 3000 years. Hindu gods for 4000 years. Your Christ, 2000. Really want to make it a popularity contest?

“Perhaps you should change your ways and repent;”
Because of a popular opinion? I’m not on Tiktok. Or twitter. Facebook. Give me a reason to.

“God will forgive you and not punish you eternally.”
Yeah, got a reason that’sNOT extortion?

“If you continue on your present course, you will have to explain to God--in person someday--why you blasphemed Him and His ways.”
He’s omniscient,right? He already knows all my motivations and conclusions.

DOC #fundie

“You've got a point there. If everyone were atheists I'd be willing to bet sex with any consulting child would be legal.”
Consulting?
Do you mean, maybe, ‘consenting’?
But minors cannot consent.

“Incest would be legal.”
Where is it not legal? Really?
I knew of a guy in the Navy before I got out,married his mother.

“All drugs would be legalized.”
I’m sure atheists would more rationally approach drug restrictions, yes, but we’d include alcohol and tobacco.

“Polygamy would be legal.”
The only polygamists I’ve ever know were Mormons, not atheists.

“Homosexual marriages would be allowed.”
Between consenting adults,sure.

“ Public sex and nudity would be allowed. Porno would be allowed on all public TV channel that any child could watch.”
I’d sure rather my kids watched loving adults have realistic sex than watch something like John Wick committing murder after murder.

“School would be optional at all ages.”
What the fuck does atheism have to do with that?
i WANT the guy at the drivethrough able to do math. I WANT the next crop of soldiers in Boot camp able to read. I WANT the next generation of internet surfers to know how to evaluate claims critically.

“Handicapped and the mentally ill children would be allowed to be killed by their parents because they would be considered a burden to society.”
What a weird fantasy world you inhabit…

“All abortions would be legal at all stages.”
Is there a secular reason for the state to become involved in a healthcare decision?

“We'd live in a totally different society.”
Just not the one you imagine…

“ And after the society collapsed, the military would take over and of course it would be run by a ruthless dictator who would run a police state.”
You bleevers elected Trump because you think God wants him and he’s trying to create a ruthless police state.

“ Yes I'd be willing to bet all these actions would take place eventually.”
I’d LOVE to see it. Let’sfind out.

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #elitist #psycho #racist

…What would Karl Marx have to do with Soviet Russia? He was a German living in England.

Like, Marx literally held precisely no political office during his lifetime. He never ran any countries. He didn’t run Germany, or Russia, or a fucking lemonade stand. He wrote a book criticizing the fuckshit he saw happening in Europe at the time, and other people read it, wildly misappropriated his thoughts, and now he gets the blame. It’s like if someone read a Stephen King novel, and decided that a cult of child-eating clowns living in the sewers was a viable political movement.

Agaro #fundie

“all the evolutionists, tell me something.”
Why, you’re not listening?

“ i know how the big bang "has happened,”
Betcha you don’t…
And Big Bang isn’t evolution.

“ but tell me, wouldnt an explosion,”
Already wrong.

“ especially one that size,”
Size? How big do you think the expansion was? I mean, besides EVERYTHING.

“take away life instead of allow it? think about it.”
No. Everything that exists was in one TEEEEEEEEEEEEENY tiny spot. It wasn’t on a plain or next to a planet or orbiting a star. Everything you imagine that was affectedby ‘this explosion’ was inside the expansion.

“ex: the a-bomb, the h-bomb, grenades, cannon balls (when fired from a cannon of course), mines, rocket launchers, and anything and everything in between. they all have taken lives.”
None of which are anything like the Big Bang expansion.

Robert J. Antonellis #fundie

“Talk about taxation without representation!”
Do you understand what the phrase actually means, though?

“ Christians pay more taxes than any single group in the world.”
How do you figure?
Churches are not taxed…
Hovind feels that just about anything he does shouldn’t be taxd.

“Yet there are dozens of Third Way governments using that money to exterminate Christianity!”
What money?

“We need to do something about that to give Christians the representation they deserve.”
Yes, so many atheists and muslims in Congress, how can you stand it.

“ I propose creating a company called Christian Clout to serve this huge market and to enable Christians to vote with their wallets...”
Uh huh… That always works. Christain versions of working companies NEVER fail.

John C. Wright #fundie

“Such evil effects were foreseen before no-fault divorce became the norm,”
Ah. The weird idea that men can be left even if they obey the letter of the law. How evil that women may change their mind.

“or contraception made legal by judicial fiat,”
Judges doing their job allow women to decide if they want to risk their life in pregnancy? So evil.

“as evidenced by the fact that the Christian teaching has always sided with wisdom and experience.”
Like slavery. Yep.
Slaveowners used to give bibles to their slaves to make them Christains,but had the entire chapter of Exodus removed. Can’t haveslaves thinking that emancipation is possible, much less a Christain virtue.

zooropa_boy #fundie

“I wouldn't be so sure, nothing is proven,”
Thus everythingin science remains falsifiable.

“ and as it is, while mirco evolution works very well, marco evolution (apes to man) has glaring impracticalities yet to be overcome.”
MACRO evolution is just the eventual accumulation of lots and lots of microevolution. And it’s not just apes to man, since man IS an ape.
It’s any major, visible change to a creature’s anatomy. The giraffe’s neck, the rabbit’s hind legs, the wolf’s building-shattering breath, opposable thumbs…

AL #fundie

“Strange that we can't legislate morality yet we have millions in prisons at the ccost of billions for breaking the legislated laws. -Largely because they were never taught the laws made by the legislators who say we can't legislate moral laws.”
Morality is doing the right thing for the right reasons. We cannot legislate your motivation. We just prohibit behaviors.
Like, murder. Cops don’t really CARE if
1) you don’t kill because you value all human life, or if
2) you don’t kill because, while you think you’re the only real person who really matters, you’re just too lazy to go through the whole trial thing.
One of those is moral. BOTH positions are legal.

G-Dawg13 #fundie

“the idea that a human can turn into a bat”
Jesus FUCK how do you make it to the 21st century without knowing a TEENY bit more about the superhero, Batman?
I mean, you can obviously use a computer, but you can’t use the internet?

“is clearly a subliminal message from the satanists who want to convert this once wholesome and christian nation into a cesspool of sin and secularism.”
We were never a Christain nation, dipshit.

“accept jesus now or burn in hell. your choice.”
You know, you’re going to be one of the first examples i point to if Jesus is real. “Why didn’t you accept me into your heart?”
“That guy. I mean, you’re in HIS heart. I don’t wanna be like him in ANY way.”
“Fair enough…”

huldah153 #fundie

“I would rather believe Lady Hope.”
Sure you would. Not because of any evidence,but pure emotional load.

“ Granted, it is entirely possible that she may have lied,”
SEveral witnesses testified that she lied.

“but given that she was a staunch Christian, I don't think she would have for fear of facing an eternity of hellfire.”
Ever think that MAYBE she lied about that, too? About being staunch in her faith?
Do you even know which Christain faith she practiced? Might be one you consider heretical. MIGHT be one that accepts lying if it’s for Jesus.

Dota #fundie

“Like Jack Phillips before her, Kim Davies chose persecution over capitulation.”
As clerk, Kim’s job is to ensure that marriage license applications meet the state’s laws. Not her religious beliefs. She chose persecution over DOING HER FUCKING JOB.

“She was told that her religious beliefs could not supersede the authority of the court.”
Yes, this is a secular nation. Laws of the land exist exactly because we have many different religious beliefs living side by side, hers do NOT take precedence.

“As Bay Area Guy reminded me recently, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was quite right when he said that Americans are slavish in their devotion to the law instead of morality and personal ethics.”
If she honestly felt that she could not do the job,she should have quit. Using her superstition for her secular government job is not the moral position. She shouldn’t have run in the first place.

“This should not surprise us in the least as a Marxist society worships the state and considers its law holy scripture.”
No, that’s fascism, not Marxism. Do try to keep up.

“Marxists hate God because the State is a jealous god.”
Not at all. Marxists hate religion. God doesn’t seem to be much of an influence in any way.

Frank Furtschool #racist

redheaded goddess88 #racist

“Women who race, mix”
Both?

“men to for that matter too,”
Then why didn’t you just open with ‘Humans who race, and mix.’?

“can never come back again their attraction to other races is a mental illness”
Okay, that’s not true at all. My wife,and four of my top ten favorite playmates, are black. Five of the other six are white. One Japanese. I can appreciate and feel attraction to women of any race. It’s not a mental check-valve.

“just like the women who feel its not a bad thing to kill their unborn children because they don't think its a child.”
Okay to kill a child because it’s not a child? What an odd, odd sentence.

“Those women make me sick they make good women look bad.”
How? I mean,how do you know that there ARE good women if the bad women make them look bad?
You can distinguish the two groups, clearly, but suddenly they blur?
Oh, maybe you’rejust a misogynist.

"I don't need a man to tell me I am beautiful or worth anything I know that on my own”
Slight error on both, bitch.

“ and I am a second generation racist”
Wow. Batman couldn’t make me admit that if i were…

“my children are aware I will never have nigglet grand children my children know better.”
Not often I really hope people end up posting on PITT, but you’re certainly one of them…

SURE's TOOTIN' kc's dandy with me #fundie #homophobia

“SO ON ONE LEVEL ALL SINNERS ARE HOMOSEXUALS TO SOME DEGREE”
That’s not a dungeon level I want my characters to explore.
How… How does this work? God’s the one who made me straight. But Adam and Woman sinned. That makes me a sinner. but somehow a mistake made 6000 years ago makes me …gay. Just a little bit.
That doesn’t make any sense.

“PERHAPS AS THE 3 DEGREES OF SIN IN LUKE 12″
Are you one of those creationists who insist you can ignore it if a scientist uses ‘perhaps,’ because they’re not sure?

“BUT PERHAPS THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO FLAUNT THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY AS BEING BETTER THAN HETER....”
Better than Heter! I can see that as a t-shirt.

“ARE ONES WHO KNOW AND DO EVIL AND ARE THUS CONDEMNED TO BE CASTE AMONG THE UNBELIEVERS”
There are unbeliever castes? Oooh! Can I be an untouchable? I has the ticklish issue.

John Doe #racist

coñsuela #fundie

“i think people that crusade against the religious have zero positive input to society ..”
Well,if they crusade against the religious BECAUSE they’re religious, maybe.
What if they crusade against tax dodgers like Kent Hovind, Because he’s a tax dodger?
What if they crusade against God being mentioned on the currency because it’s against the constitution?
What if they crusade against people teaching religious superstitions in science classes because it’s a lie and unconstitutional and illegal?

“theyre just looking for someone to blame and fixing nothing ..”
I dunno. Hovind went to jail.
ID consistently loses in court.

“pathetic, worthless pieces of human trash is about how i perceive them”
Well,you’re a credulous, superstitious idiot who doesn’t know how anything actually works, so who cares what you perceive?

Discard #racist

“The good reason for anti-Black miscegenation laws is that Black DNA is effectively a genetic pollutant.”
Pretty sure that the miscegenation legislation was established well before any discovery identified DNA. So, no, this isn’t a justification for the laws.

“Blacks are a blight on society and a drain on the economy.”
Yes, that’s why y’all imported so many, to ruin the South’s economy. And then committed treason to make sure the Southern economy depended on them… Sure, sure.

“The fewer the better.”
Then MAYBE shouldn’t have had slaves that the slave owners could rape. Just saying…

“Diluting their presence by mixing it with White genes is simply spreading the problem around.”
Okay, pick one. ARE we increasing their spread or are we diluting it?
And, yes, the one drop rule. Of course, if you’d decided that one drop of WHITE blood made them white, then whites would not face a looming minority status, would they?

I really don’t care. I was a science-fiction nerd in central Idaho. Already a minority.
I joined the military,making me a minority in the population.
I joined submarines, making me a minority in the military.
I worked on nuclear weapons. WAY small minority.
Well, if whites are minority, I’ll hope my kids will protect me from abuses.

“And I believe no more in the right to breed with whoever you wish”
Yeah, not believing in other people’s rights worked SO well when California voted against gay marriage…

Warchicken #fundie

“So explain this to me.”
SOmehow, I doubt the sincerity of your request…

“ He [God] can crush you or nurture you depending on whether you do what he says,”
Really? Because most Christains I’ve ever seen are insistent that THEY have the only religion that God approves. the Pope, the president of LDS, Joel Osteen,and Pat Robertson can’t ALL be doing ‘what He says.’
And that’s not even counting Hindu, Shinto, Islam, and whatever that screaming mutant on the Quad is talking about.
And none of them are ‘crushed’ for not doing ‘what he says.’

“and your answer is to say 'why should I?!?'”
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, you don’t really spend much time on the benefits of following your God in the appropriate way, just straight to the threat. GOD WILL CRUSH YOU! But it’s historically kind of an empty threat.
Sure, Ghouls are quick to point to any disaster and say, “God did that because you touch yourself!” But I don’t really see a connection.

“like a petulant four-year-old asking why he should do what his parents say?”
my parents are real. At four they were constants in my life. They fed me and spanked me and I understood our relationship quite clearly.
THIS is more like ‘Eat your broccoli or President Nixon will invade Wakanda!’
Why should I credit the threat?

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #elitist #psycho #racist

@Zinnia #261429
The point here is “Jews think gentiles are subhuman”. “and this is what you are - an animal. A lowly beast. Goyim.” - The Comjewnists are not including themselves here.
(For some reason, many alt-righters think that goyim means “cattle”. That this is very easily debunked says so much about their intellectual capacities.)

Manifestation Magic #magick

Our thoughts are waves of energy that creates solid matter

Your thoughts seem to be creating solid BULLSHIT.

Verderebb #sexist

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #elitist #psycho #racist

Why does Marx speak with a thick phonetic accent, when no other German, nor Jew, nor anyone of any other nationality or ethnicity for that matter, seems to do - not even Hitler, who famously spoke German with that trademark hideous harsh screeching accent that foreigners think German actually sounds like in public (it was to cover up his native Austrian accent)?

@Zinnia #261429
Some variations of this are used by awful people to try to make the point that everyone is as rotten as them, they’re just honest about it in a way most people aren’t.
Tats seems to be portraying Marx et al as being these sorts of awful people, attempting to make their point in the worst possible way…

Each of them is, according to TatIsh, sort of like the Joker who has not yet had Batman say to him “What were you trying to prove? That deep down, everyone's as ugly as you? You're alone!”?

Conservapedia #fundie

I just did a quick little Google search, and hmm, interesting…it seems that Nile Rodgers (guitarist, producer, co-founder of the band Chic, extremely influential to disco and just music in general) calls himself a “secular humanist”…as does Labi Siffre, who’s music isn’t totally “disco” really, but R&B or soul and stuff. Listen to his song ”I Got The..” and at about 2:12 into it you might hear something very familiar, lol.

Jeff Hambrecht and Mitch Parsons #crackpot #fundie #sexist

“I was tired of having nakedness shoved in my face every time I walked into a gym to train,” Parsons claims. “I had to choose between honoring the Lord, honoring my wife, and guarding my eyes, or training my body. So I quit four gyms.”

Here’s a weird, crazy idea: How about going to the gym and working out and stuff and then continuing to go about your married life as normal, despite the female “nakedness shoved in your face”? I mean, I don’t go the gym and I’ve never been married either, but I’m guessing that’s what the majority of men in that situation do. Or, even better, take your wife to the gym with you, then you can lust after each other and maybe have hot sweaty sex afterward ;)

Patriarch Kirill #fundie #psycho #wingnut

failed to fully eradicate the evil of Nazism

…Yes, you and Putin are living proof of that.

“Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!” proclaims every homefront propagandist not at risk of being sent anywhere close to the battlefield himself.

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #elitist #psycho #racist

@Zinnia #261429

Which just seems to be trying to paint Jews and communists as being nihilistic as a philosophy/group while fascist beliefs and philosophy frequently are heavily influence by nihilistic thought and in part influence why they view people in such low light.

…Here’s what I think Tats is intending with this, but I might be wrong. There’s a very broad concept, sometimes called “Who you are in the dark”, which has many different versions.

The original (or at least I think it’s the original) is “What would you do, if you knew you would never be found out?” which is usually intended to be a philosophical self-reflection. What the answer you come up with might say about the parts of you that you don’t usually examine. I don’t think this one applies here, as it seems that the people being portrayed as doing this aren’t making it about themselves and wish it to be known that they did it.

Another version is “How far would you go, if survival is on the line?” which may be used the same way as the above, but is more often used to point out that you can’t know for sure until you face such a situation, particularly if your life has always been relatively comfortable and safe. Clearly, this woman went very far (or was very lucky) and is willing to do even more, so there’s an element of that here.

And then there’s “Who would you be, if all illusions were stripped bare?” This has many different variations, depending on what the questioner thinks are the “illusions” which society, or civilization, or malign forces, or aliens, forces upon everyone. Some variations of this are used by awful people to try to make the point that everyone is as rotten as them, they’re just honest about it in a way most people aren’t. Tats seems to be portraying Marx et al as being these sorts of awful people, attempting to make their point in the worst possible way… and perhaps by extension, that all Jews would try to do the same, given the chance.

Jeff Hambrecht and Mitch Parsons #crackpot #fundie #sexist

Let’s say that this is only for 100% straight men whose main problem is that, under certain situations, they’re too distracted by women existing in their general vicinity to function properly. Let’s also say that either these are the only men who show up, or any other men who do are basically irrelevant.

This doesn’t solve the problem. It normalizes whatever neuroses they have which contribute to their situation, and also gives whatever pent-up sex drive they have even less outlet to be expressed, which may result in it being expressed more frequently or more inappropriately in other environments.

Now there are people who can subsume their sex drive into other, unrelated activities, but not everyone can do that, and there’s some evidence that this may not be psychologically healthy (or at least, that it might matter a great deal how and why you’re doing it). It might actually help a little if you also trained those men to subsume their sex drive into exercise, but that would still be a questionable practice.

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #elitist #psycho #racist

Surrree… the Nazis totally didn’t do horrible things, like the Holocaust or the shit Oskar Dirlewanger and his band of nihilistic monsters did or the reported and or even confirmed instances of cannibalism done by the Imperial Japanese ontop of their other horrid behavior during the war and the Axis was totally the victims…

did the allies do some horrific shit, definitely, but the Axis did more and far worse.

Patriarch Kirill #fundie #psycho #wingnut

@Sasha #261415

There’s an updated version of that phrase from the Vietnam era:

”Kill them all and let God sort them out!”

It’s disgusting no matter what time we’re in or which version is used.

Verderebb #sexist

Ah, so y’all support child labor. Not cool. Child labor is disgusting regardless of who is being forced to do it. Say NO to child labor.