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Your Fellow Human #fundie physforum.com

[In response to the question of whether or not science was a religion]

I've noticed some atheists get religious about it. I've met a few materialist-fundies who wanted all of the theists to be killed, or die somehow, etc. The Malthusian depopulationists totally remind me of the Nazis, too. Back in those days, for a while, it was a vital part of "Darwinism", and natural-selection was viewed by some as the sacred natural process which produced superiority via death and non-mercy. I've also noticed many quasi-darwinist quacks whom advocate flawed ideologies of genetic superiority only arising from random genetic mutations and competitive killing/starvation between one species and another.

•SHEOL• #fundie physforum.com

ID prove(s) genetically that the human species did not Evolve out of other life forms, which amazingly Evolutionism propagate(s) we did, when overwhelming scientific (DNA) evidence(s) disprove(s), but still it is taught as fact.

This is why, I believe that Creationism & Evolutionism should only be taught in the home(s) & not the school(s) to avoid even more confusion.

IMCREATED #fundie physforum.com

Why are you all arguing about the teaching of religion in the science class room. You have your own religion. It's called evolutionism. It's is a belief system that fits nice and neat into the religious format. You worship it. You evangelize others to win others over to your side. You give money to the cause. It has all the makings of religion. Here is the worst part. If someone doesn't believe the way you do, their stupid or ignorant. Maybe you should try to look at the scientific data with more of an open mind and not be quite so religious about it.

Evans #fundie physforum.com

First of all, life is too complex to evolve.
Second, why are monkeys not evolving into humans now???

You see it is all a lie. A baseless belief they are teaching my kid at school.

Evans #fundie physforum.com

i want to ask starter of this thread: can you give me the detail on how mathetical logic disproves evolution. i know one guy in a church whose good at math so i can explain it to him. i only know that einstein already proved existence of god with his Em=c2 equations (i saw it somwhere on the net).

jduke #fundie physforum.com

As I've said before, Evolution is self-contradictory. On the one hand its proponents claim it is the origin of everything that exists, but on the other they acknowledge that it cannot account for the formation things which really exist such as human DNA. Evolution is quintessential occultism.

I find the proof of God's existence quite logical. Deconstruct anything, including the Theory of Evolution, and you find God at the beginning. If God is not there, then nothing is there. Your ability to understand God is not required, but if you seek the truth with all your heart, he will lead you to his Son Jesus Christ.

SoLoved #fundie physforum.com

Isn't it strange that the Bible never mentions anything about evolution? Have you ever thought of that, or wondered why? Wouldn't you think that if there was an ounce of truth to evolution, that there would be something written in the Bible that would, even if accidentally, agree with evolution? Could it be that evolution is just a theory to eliminate God and/or gods?

no1nose #fundie physforum.com

I am still very much convinced that Evolution is simply an idea in some people’s minds and not the reality of the natural world. It is no coincidence that it parallels Christianity so closely - this was where Darwin stole most of “his” ideas.

Both Evolution and Christianity are about the transformation of one species into another. For Christianity it is the creation of the new man. Darwin’s scenario begins with one member being different at birth. This follows Christianity as Jesus was different – being conceived by the Holy Spirit. In Evolution this “mutation” gives the individual an advantage in survival. Having been raised from the dead proves that Jesus was a survivor. Finally in evolution the member of a species are not like this new individual becomes “extinct”. This too follows the Christianity in that those who do not accept Jesus are lost. Please note that none of these ideas are self evident in the natural world. They are read into it by our preconceived ideas.

Even if I am completely wrong - evolution itself points to Jesus as mankind’s savior. We can easily see this by asking the question “from an evolutionary point of view who will transform and “save” mankind?”

no1nose #fundie physforum.com

I am still very much convinced that Evolution is simply an idea in some people’s minds and not the reality of the natural world. It is no coincidence that it parallels Christianity so closely - this was where Darwin stole most of “his” ideas.

Both Evolution and Christianity are about the transformation of one species into another. For Christianity it is the creation of the new man. Darwin’s scenario begins with one member being different at birth. This follows Christianity as Jesus was different – being conceived by the Holy Spirit. In Evolution this “mutation” gives the individual an advantage in survival. Having been raised from the dead proves that Jesus was a survivor. Finally in evolution the member of a species are not like this new individual becomes “extinct”. This too follows the Christianity in that those who do not accept Jesus are lost. Please note that none of these ideas are self evident in the natural world. They are read into it by our preconceived ideas.

Even if I am completely wrong - evolution itself points to Jesus as mankind’s savior. We can easily see this by asking the question “from an evolutionary point of view who will transform and “save” mankind?”

Evans #fundie physforum.com

There is only one true religion. It is Christianity.
There is only one book that knows truth about the world around us – it is Bible.
Evolution is wrong because it contradicts Bible, and therefore it contradicts my faith.
How can you say that Bible is full of lies.
It just shows your total lack of intelligence, because even scientists(great scientists, not you) believe in god.
Bible is a Holy book. There are no mistakes in it.

Evolution is just a part of lame atheist propaganda, face it.
I just KNOW that god exists, I can feel it. I believe in our lord Jesus Christ.

God bless you all.

Jeremy Fisher #fundie physforum.com

evans,

i pity there fantisy worlds. i've read lots of physics and biology books and they are all full of silly misconceptions, for example how can e=mc squared? .... how can you make a square out of the speed of light and times it by mass to give energy? these people need the almighty more than anyone, God bless them!

by there way of thinking if you make a triangle out of gravity and divide it by density it equals temperture

Bringer-of-Light #fundie physforum.com

There was once a dig in siberia where they drilled to a new record depth and broke into a hollow chamber only to heae the screams of those from hell. If you haven't heard of this I know why. Atheists control the media and they suppress this sore of thing. They do the same to ghost sightings.

Bringer-of-Light #fundie physforum.com

"All that's clear is that relativity and quantum mechanics leads to atheism. It may not serve as a replacement for God but knowledge of such things must be in opposition to God. Such filth is exactly why I am going to homeschool my son."

howtothinklikegod #fundie physforum.com

Yeah.

SCIENCE IS A RELIGION. Because many people believe in it. And that makes it a system of beliefs, which is definitely the meaning of religion. Ten years from now, there will be science churches and scientific priests. They will rule the world. They will teach the ultimate truth to the innocents. And those innocents will believe. And they will later replace those scientists and make a more advanced and precise system of beliefs. And they will give birth to another form of religion. And Christianity will evaporate. And everybody will be god. And no one will ever remember that there is a Supreme Being, a friend, a father, and most of all, a brother, who created everything.

And yes, people will definitely like the modern system. I couldn't blame them. What more could they ask? Everything is being fed. There are proofs, evidences, scientific explanations..... there is absolutely NO REASON to doubt science. And if that's the beauty of it, i'd rather resort to the older system. Though there are doubts, regrets, unexplained, uncertainties......WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT BEING PRECISE?? AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHO ARE WE TO BE SO WISE THAT WE ARE NOW ABLE TO KNOW GOD, TO EXPLAIN HIS EXISTENCE BY NUMBERS AND TERMS THAT WE CREATED??!!!!

Yeah.

SCIENCE IS A RELIGION.

But does it have a god??
Where??

Evans #fundie physforum.com

Ill tell you what is hysterical.
Teaching my kid that she evolved from monkey! That;s insulting for my family. Thnks to homeschooling that I give to my daughter - she doesnt believe that occult crap.

Evans #fundie physforum.com

Schools should teach creation science on a daily basis.
The sooner kids will know the word of god - the beter for them.
And also removing the biology occultists from schools would be nice.

Bringer-of-Light #fundie physforum.com

I understand what you are saying and I respect you and the arguments you have advanced on this forum but there are a lot of good people in hell. Heaven Is reached through Christ alone and without Christ there is only hell. It may not be fair because some people never even get the chance to hear about Jesus and some people are brainwashed into atheism but it is what it is.

dad1 #fundie physforum.com

[On whether or not evolution is a religion]

Pretty much! The gathering places (churches) are universities, and such places, the preaching is all over the radio, TV, documentaries, schools, etc. And the ever changing fairy tale books are treated with a reverence that is akin to worship.

dad1 #fundie physforum.com

[After being told the abiogenesis hypothesis says nothing about a god and thus does not deny the possibility of one]

I understand that it is anti God! It is an unproven, unprovable, baseless myth!! Capice??

Evans #fundie physforum.com

people need much more church control they get
with all this dirt coming from tv screens and with all this horrible nonchristian music
like littel kids need grownups to teach them to behave - americans need church for the same riason.

all christians i know think the same way as me - but they dont state their views publicly unlike me

thetruth #fundie physforum.com

I can tell you that evolution is a myth. I realise this every time I watch a wasp/bee/fly/daddy long legs/a.n.other insect try to fly through glass. Again. And again. And again. And - you get my point.

Glass has been around for hundreds of years - so if creatures of this world are evolving, why havent they learnt how to understand glass! Listen wasp, its see through, but its solid, ok?!?!?!! You cant fly through it!!!!!! But they never, ever learn. And therefore they will never "evolve". Because they cant.

Anyway, I think that this is total conclusive ultimate proof that evolution is non-existent.

dad1 #fundie physforum.com

[dad1 believes in a universe where the past was separate and governed by different laws than the present. Here, he attempts to explain how fast light traveled in the "past state"]

My best estimat is that it could get anywhere as fast as God wanted it to, and the need existed. If we needed to see a star, we saw it. Now that is fast!!! But it couls also be slow, if the need was there. Try and homogenize that with this temporary state universe light!!

Evans #fundie physforum.com

Children, I am sorry truth doesn’t fit to your evolutuionary dogma.

Alphanumeric, all your “claims” are easily refuted by respected creationist sites.
I feel so sad for all of you, but I wish you all the best, may be some day you will gain needed amount of intellect to accept truth.

And now enjoy sitting in your little box of science.

God bless you.

dad1 #fundie physforum.com

Here is the deal. There is science, and there is the bible. The bible covers a lot more, than science can in it's wet dreams. I like it's tested authority, proven prophesies, and risen Messiah. That is why I use it, when science cannot help, in some areas. -Not to build a bridge, or for guidance systems of rockets.

If one wants to use science as the basis for the claim, one must provide certain evidences, repeatability, and, etc. If you have neither for your claim, it does not have any worth, or merit. There is no need to even consider it.

Any claim I make, as a bible claim, will have solid bible support. Any claim that is a bona fide science claim will have real supports as well. If you have neither, you are not playing with the big boys. You are playing with yourself. I mean that. -As clever and exciting as you seem to think that may be, you are in the wrong forum.

Bringer-of-Light #fundie physforum.com

I get so tired of people talking about apes having something to do with evolution. There is a simple explanation for why apes seem to have evolved. I imagine that we are all familiar with the Biblical story of Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and was then cursed by God and cast out from his family to wander the world. Well the Bible says that Cain found a wife. Everyone thinks that this is weird since there are no women on earth other than those with Adam and his family; there is an explanation. Cain married one of the apes of old and became the progenitor of new types of apes. Since this change happened it looks like apes have evolved but they really haven't evolved much. The apes of old were much different than the apes of today and Cains actions were horrible. The abomination that Cain created is why God decreed that man and animal could no longer reproduce together.

deadbeat #fundie physforum.com

Wow,
Ben Stein once again proves he is a genius. Getting Dawkins to admit that he thinks ALIENS seeded the earth, rather than accepting the possibility of Intelligent Design was precious.
The imaginary underpinnings of atheistic bias are revealed for the foolishness they are.
I just ask a simple question.

If ID is considered "religion", and is inappropriate for academic purposes, why then is "atheism" (like as professed commonly by those like Dawkins) exempt?
Since the one portrays and insists that God does NOT exist (without conclusive proof, making it a subjective judgement), why is it then not allowed to similarly insist that God COULD exist, without conclusive proof?
Especially in the United States, where Atheism is legally protected and EQUIVALENT TO RELIGION, and therefore should have the same RESTRICTIONS as "religion"?

Evans #fundie physforum.com

[to Evans: The concept of "God" as a defining aspect of America is in direct contradiction to the US Constitution.]

yeah right
did you hear they teach creationism in kansas right?
there are some states where we've managed to get truth acepted
if its uncostitutonal then why are they teaching it?

you are just spouting typical atheist-satanist propoganda and there is zero evidence to support your claim

have you been in Creation Museum? you'd better viisit it and maybe youll change your views

Evans #fundie physforum.com

"One nation under god"
do you know what it is?
thats right - America.
so you have no place in one nation under god, you have a place in one nation under satan or ocullt biology LOL

Evans #fundie physforum.com

[to Evans: Your negative feedback is because you come to a science site and attack science!]

Can you read??? This forum is called “Creation/Evolution”.
Nevermind, evolution is not science after all. Creation science is science.
I attacked your “science”(your god) and you attacked me. Very atheist of you.

God bless you.

Quantum_Conundrum #fundie physforum.com

I am not lying or exaggerating to you when I tell you what I have already said on here before.

I HAVE eye-witnessed a "near amputee" style healing from no more than about 2 feet away. I watched the leg GROW OUT by several inches through prayer in the name of Jesus, with no possibility of a hoax, in a small gathering, I'd say sometime around 1993. This leg had been injured decades earlier in an automobile crash, and he had a noticeable, obvious limp with the injured leg being several inches shorter than the healthy, due to the bone and tissue damage.

•SHEOL• #fundie physforum.com

Since you're longing for me to blindly accept Darwin's "Theory Of Evolution" tell scientists to go into the laboratory & show me a human (mixed with another species) mutant(s), etc... which you & nobody else can do (because they don't exist), so until that day arrives the most any believer(s) of Darwinism will ever do is make me laugh.