Science is for retards

Only a retard would try to use science to determine the ultimate reality of our existence.

['Would someone please provide a definition of supernatural and offer evidence that the "supernatural" even exists?']

By supernatual they mean a violation of what they consider to be natural laws. With God this is not what takes place. When He performs a miracle, He simply restores things to the way He intended them to be. So in a sense He is enforcing the natural laws, not superseding them in a "supernatual" way.

In my experience black Christians tend to lean more towards the conservative side when it comes to theology and religious belief. To their credit they tend to have stronger faith than white people and black churches usually hold strongly to things such as the inerrancy of the Bible. I would guess they are more likely to reject 'modern' teaching such as theistic evolution. Perhaps partly because they might feel that evolution has been used to oppress them and to racially abuse them.

[How does the Flood explain all those local abundances of fossils?]

I have to consult my brother but I believe I remember him telling me fossils can be manufactured in laboratories in a matter of hours.

A statement frequently made is along the lines; The responsibilities for family care taking (for children and aging parents) continue to fall disproportionately on women. I consider this to be an Atheistic statement because it is inconsistent with the Bible as stated above. Not only is it Atheistic, but I believe this will lead to a physical disaster in America. More and more the role of caring for children and the elderly is being forced on the government through a wide range of socialist welfare programs. Government cannot provide the love that is necessary for the job of caring for the children and elderly.

Already we are seeing more and more office jobs taken by women and laboring jobs (carpenters, plumbers, car repair, etc.) taken by men. It is moving toward a situation where the cost of a plumbing repair is going to be $100 per hour and sex. It may get to where men become day laborers that are paid cash where there are no taxes or social security. Men would earn enough for booze and porno and wait for some woman to take care of him till she conceives. If the men began to band together the situation could become like it is in Africa, where rape, pillage and destruction is normal.

The greatest contribution of Christianity has been the Christian Family Concept where the man is the provider, and the woman cares for the children and elderly. The woman equality movement is an Atheistic attack on the Christian Family Concept.

The thing I really do not understand is why women hate the position God gave to them. I know women love their children and their parents, but then abandon the children and parents to have a job other than the job God assigned them. The only way I have ever been able to understand this is stated in I Timothy, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

It would appear Satan is well on the way to another success story. Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and Christians may well be kicked out of America as Atheistic welfare programs increase.

I got this idea while posting on the "Hobbit" thread and thought it worthwhile to scientifically test and develop.

Why let English-speaking paleoanthropologists arbitrarily label individual members of the human race with Latin terms such as Homo sapiens, Homo heidlebergensis, Homo erectus and Homo floresiensis when we can do that for ourselves?

I propose to call all living members of the human race Human speciens and all human fossils Human speciensis. That way, neo-Darwinist race theorists won't be able to associate any human fossils in Africa with African ape look-alikes.

Of course, neo-Darwinists can still call themselves Homo sapiens as long as they stop Latinizing our human ancestors as Homo this and Homo that.

[In response to opening post titled, "9 Year Old Pleads Guilty to Manslaughter"]

She needed sunday school, now look what happened.

People try to say there is no connection between Hitler and Darwin, but a lot of what Hitler was trying to do was to create the perfect race. He eliminated the people he considered to be weak, the retarded people and people in mental institutions. He had one experment of blond haired blue eyed young people that were going to marry and start the perfect race.

When Hitler failed to accomplish his purpose a lot of the theory of evolution was discredited. Evolutionists have done what they could to maintain damage control. Still Hitlers extensive scientific experments falsified a lot of the theory of evolution.

Be gone demonic saboteurs !!! Leave my thread this instant !!!

How is it that natural selection is purposeless, yet the word 'selection' implies purpose?

['Isn't the most basic rule of humanity to do unto others as you would have others do unto you?']

Exactly ! I want Islamics to accept Christ as their saviour the same way I have.

Satan began the perversion of women in the Garden of Eden by appealing to her vanity. Adam sinned by allowing the women to control him.

Women voting gives too much power to control men. I don't think God ever intended for women to have both the vote and boobs. That is just too much power in the hands of the weaker vessel.

Common Ancestry a Religous Premise.

The fact that neo-Darwinists premise their notions, ideas, concepts and theories about common ancestry and common descent on the biblical story of Adam and Eve is proof enough that evoutionist "theory" is premised on a religious belief and concept to start with.

I mean, since it's the frequency variations of the alleles around a specific locus that's supposed to bring on an evolutionary change, then how can there be any change with organisms that don't have alleles? Or a locus, for that matter? YET WE SEE CREATION AND CHANGE! NOT EVOLUTIONISM!

Since I singlehanededly defeated the Evolutionist dogma in my first thread

A usual response from the Evolutionists: Blend politics and religion in with science. That's how you people get your funding.

[Replying to a story about <a href="http://www.whiotv.com/education/5010286/detail.html" target="_blank">a Christian girl expelled from school</a> for having lesbian parents.]

The "Waaaa" factor is so annoying. Seriously. "They won't let me be a part of their group.... Waaa Waaaaa sniffle Waaaaa" Who cares? Why should anybody desire to be a part of a group, a school, or a business, that doesn't want them there? It's not the same as blacks not being allowed to sit in the front of the bus, or women not being allowed to vote. It's more akin to being told you're not invited to somebody's sleep over. So what.... go find another sleep over. It's not like you're being kept from going to ALL of them.

...Evolutionists will do anything for federal funding! Even lie.
The crack addict will do anything for crack funding! Even steal...

If Evoution isn't about Origins at all, then why do we have TalkOrigins, and "Origin of the Species"?

It seems to me that one can change the pitch of sound waves by incressing the speed it travels. Perhaps one can change the color of light by changing its speed also...

First of all, the Big Bang theory has been proven correct, because the universe is non-static (a fact that also disproves evolution) [...]

we know that the universe was created, because someone would have had to pull the proverbial pen that caused the explosion. now, for the catch: The bible is the only religious book that says that God is older than the universe (2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2). Therefore, Christianity is correct, because it goes hand in hand with science.

[Commening to <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis%207:16&version=31" target="_blank">Gen. 7:16</a> 'And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as GOD commanded him: AND THE LORD SHUT HIM IN.']

Does this mean a pre incarnate visit of Christ to shut the door of the ark from the outside? Could it mean that GOD made the door hold shut? Could it also be that an impact blast from an asteroid reached the ark and slammed the door shut tight? Perhaps it is a combination of all three? I hope to ask Noah one day.

[Explaining who he wouldn't vote to be President]
A Muslim
Islamic interests are not in the interests of the West.

A homosexual
Homosexual interest collides with heterosexual interest. They are a small minority whereas heterosexuals are the vast majority.

A woman
I'd vote for a woman but I don't support woman's suffrage. They tend to vote based on emotional response instead of logical response.

['Wait. You're arguing for creationism based on the way a dead person's muscles tense up in rigor-mortis then slacken as the body ages?']

That is one way of putting it. Granted most christian look just like non christians when they die. But sometimes, they look very different.

During the liberation of the Nazi concentration camps, they ran into a lot of dead people. Most of them, the vast majority had a look of terror on their face. But every now and then they ran across someone that looked different. I even saw a old news film clip where a women looked beautiful, like a china doll, even though she was dead. One thing is for sure, she looked different than the others.

Now I am noticing the same thing in New Orleans. Most of the dead people you see are face down and not much expression, they just look dead. But every now and then they find a dead person where there is something different. For example I saw one dead body of a man who was beaten to death and they had a cover over him, but he was reaching out from under the cover as if he were reaching out for help, and that is the way his body looked.

There are people who would try to build a case that in looking at the way some people die, you can see evidence for creation. I would think that if you look at the evolutionary model, then everyone would be face down and dead and there would not be much in the way of communication from them. So how would evolutionists explain some of the things we see in this regard?

A baby's cry should, according to Evolutionist dogma, provide for a survival mechanism. If this is so, why does a newborn baby's cry irritate and annoy to no end?

Purrhaps the dinosaurs were destroyed by God to make way for Adam and Eve that were expelled from the Paradise?

Actually, humans and dinosaurs have co-existed, as birds can be classified as dinosaurs, or at least pterosaurs. The stories of dragons are interesting, too - could some dinosaur species have died out only a few millennia ago? It sounds unpropable, but is it completely impossible?

['Does god dislike loud music?']

I used to pull out of work and crank up Bloodgood (classic Christian rock/metal)

Great tension reliever and I think I felt God tapping his foot there a couple of times. [smilie]

Now, if you're playing something obsene so everyone in the 'hood can hear, yeah, I think he frowns on that.

['I believe in God and I too have to agree that demons are NOT the cause of mental illness. The debate has been settled since the 19th century (maybe before that too) so feel free to join us anytime.']

We don't always know what is causing illnesses, and disabilities. Sometimes the cause may very well be biological. Other times it may not be. God knows. Jesus knew.

Feel free to join those of us who put our faith in CHRIST and not mankind, anytime.

I wouldn't be too quick to tell him that his schizophrenia experience was not caused by demonic experience.

Sorry for not using Star Wars accurately in my analogy.

Anyway, I feel that some non-believers think this is how their after-life will be:
After one dies, they will go up to this mystical place with clouds and smoke. Then, in the back-round Celine Dion is singing one of her songs from the movie titanic. Then, the non-believer sees pictures of his/her family in the sky. All of a sudden, the non-elievr sees his/her love from earth appear. Then, the couple moves closer to each-other, in a slow manner, Celine Dion is still singing at this moment. They hold hands, each of them are clothed in mystical white clothes. Celine Dion stops singing, and the love of the non-believer vanished away. Then the song "Take my breathe away" comes up, and the non-believers spends eternity searching for their love while he/she is moving 1-2 mph.

[On the afterlife for non-believers]

Have you seen the movie star wars episode 5? Remember after Luke blew up the death star, and returns to the Rebel's temporary planet(name?). Anyway, remember at the end where he walks up to Princess Lela? Do you remember the music, the soldiers, and the FEELING. Do you(non-believer) believe that after you die, that you will walk up to a princess and receive an award? Do you think that the "walking carpet" and R2-D2 will be there? While you walk to get your reward, will you nod your head to the other non-belevers,while the Star Wars music is playing?

Evolutionist: I believe in the big bang and evolution. If God created the Earth in 6 days, then how come we can see stars 50 billion light years away and therefore events that happened 50 billion years ago?

Creationist (informed): According to evolutionist/big bang circles how old is the universe?

Evolutionist: 13 Billion years! Not 6 six days.

Creationist: So where did the other 37 billion years go?

.....The same logic also denys the big bang theory

['Is it ok to lie for God']

yes. the main goal should be to save people from hell. this is accomplished when they accept Jesus as their savior, and that should be done any means necessary..

[Arguing that secular medicine doesn't help people as much as a good ol'fashioned dose of the Lord]

Technical science, IMO, creates a serious problem by subsituting the chemicals that drug companies and labs produce in place of natural Christian therapy of the mind.

[On the scientific studies of creationism, responding to 'they just drowned them to prove they were a witch']

You don't have to be a creationist to do that. You just have to be willing to trust in the judgements of man... I know of no creationist involved in either the burning or drowning of witches. Ironically, both the Catholic Church and and the Puritans did and both these groups today imbrace evolution to one degree or another. Creationists tend to be evangelical.

When I was a kid and bought the cellophane bag of multicolor plastic "dinosaurs", it seemed that there was everything in there. The scientists want to categorize everything, and that is fine: however, if I had one chasing me, I would not be trying to figure out specifics in Latin. It would be TERRIBLE whether flying or walking fast. Dinosaur just fits the group, besides they didn't get that name until more modern times. I'm sure that dragon would be just as descriptive.

[After someone explains that the sun radiates energy from nuclear fusion]

The energy comes from somewhere. However, the nuclear fission lie was made up to explain why the Sun hasn't run out of energy after 20 billion years.

The ACLU is the most evil organization in America. Satan LOVES the ACLU.

['we outnumber Ilovecartoons 20 to 1, plus we actually know what we're talking about. I wonder how intimidating that is.']

You don't outnumber me. Plus, YOU have to INSULT to overpower me. My GOD is more powerful than you think.

I am a jedi. I am NOT going to compromise my faith OR back down. My science is ready for battle. However, I won't waste my time if you can't fight with information but only insults

Besides, some stars have been burning much more energy than the Sun. How can they have started with more mass if the Big Bang is true? Matter SHOULD be evenly distributed.

No creation can ever be superior to its creator

Again, this is an incontrovertible truth. A creator has to have the capacity to produce its creation and apes do not. Apes do not have the capacity to speak or form complex analyses and tasks. All anyone has to do is go to a zoo to see that. They therefore can never pass along genes with traits that they themselves do not possess. Evolution is simply a made-up story that tries to fit a square peg into a round hole. And even if the hole is much bigger than the peg, the peg will never "fit" into the hole. And neither does the theory of evolution fit into reality. It contradicts incontrovertible truths like the process of reproduction, and the fact that no creation can ever be superior to its creator. That's only possible in the imagination.

1. those stars appear to be billions of light years away..but thats just a guess. scientists really have no way of knowing exact distance..so any estimates they give shouldnt be counted
2. we can see them because we have eyes!!
3. the universe is as old as the earth
4. the earth is 6000 years old, that is coorect
5. the bible cannot be wrong, gods word is infalliable

So why don't scientists leave cancer cells alone and let them "mutate" into healthy ones? If evolution is correct, then there's no reason not to do this, is there?

Death and destruction is demonic.

I don't believe God "caused" the hurricane. Nor do I believe that it is from 'mother nature' or even 'nature' itself. "Mother Nature" is the personification of what nature should be and how it should nourish and sustain creation.

The tragedies aren't natural, they are defective. They are a manifestation of sin.

[On light billions of lightyears away]

There is less gravity at the outside of the universe than in the middle. all gravity will be pulling inwards. I have read earth is towards the centre of the universe. So what happens with the light from a, lets say, a star from the perimiter of the universe, the light will leave that star and as it gets closer to Earth, the speed will slow down. So the more gravity, the slower the speed.

I think the craters on earth, some of them, and the planets in our solar system may have somehow been caused by flood events. I believe Walt Brown theorized that the fountains of the deep opened with such force, as to cause some material to acheive a velocity that got it out of earths orbit, and some of the debris returned as meteors.
My own theory is that it was actually the flood waters, removed from earth, that reached space, then, as the split happened, space became a cold place, where the water froze, the spacebergs then were in some cases became giant meteors?
Perhaps there are other creation oriented ideas that are similar as well?
Why not!? If a phenomena like more craters on the moon, on the side that faces earth, or some planets, if this were the case were to exist, would not this be a possible indication?
(My time is short here, as I may be gone most of September, so I'm having a little flurry of activity here.)

Pre split space and gravity were likely not the same, so strict PO calculations would not apply across the board here, but only, say to a post split spaceberg, or such.
Such a historically exciting universe!

Actually, I feel that evolutionists are far more the breed cults are made from. Evolution becomes their way of thinking, interacting and responding...

['Evolution has its uses in fields like medicine, agriculture, engineering and so on']

Evolution is not being used. What is being used is what has always been known as APPLIED SCIENCE. Horticulturalists essentially do the same thing. They selectively cross pollinate flowering vegitation to BREED a pure strain variation. Their creative work has not produced a veggitoid. Neither does one seem to be in the works, either "experimentally" or "naturally".

scientists argue amonst themselves all the time! i always read about peer reviewed journals, its like you can literally submit utter nonsense and as long as a few guys agree to it, BAM its a fact!

in todays society people find different ways to make a living. they arent necessarily lying, just holding back the truth. Evolutionists do this all the time.