The gunman was ranting and raving with vulgar language, so its a safe bet, that he is a atheist.

The only thing these kids are guilty of is doing society one big favor.

Why on Earth should any U.S. citizen be charged with a "crime" if it is committed against a non-citizen that has illegally invaded the citizen's country?

We have so watered-down the benefits of citizenship it is disgusting. Any sane society should have the attitude that the illegal got what he deserved.

I will be the first to contribute to whatever legal defense fund is established for these kids.

This should be happening everyday in every municipality in the U.S until the "message" is received loud and clear.

Stay out of our country or face the very real consequences.

[From a discussion about God punishing people who do not accept the Gospel and how fair that is to the people who never even got a chance to hear the Gospel]

I've never personally known or heard of anyone dying w/o hearing the Gospel. God has given me and other dear friends opportunities to witness to many elderly people (80's and near 100's) who have said, "Thank you, I've never heard that before!" God was gracious,patient and merciful to keep them alive until they heard the Gospel.

Some have said, "Um, okay, no one's ever told me that before and I've been fine so far, so..."

I don't think any of us can say that we have absolute knowledge that anyone who has died and gone to Hell never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel.

Children created in "test tubes" and "in vitro" in laboratories are deprived of the spiritual union of man and woman that exists when normal children are created. Like the fabled monster in Mary Shelley's original novel, these children are created without spiritual union and have no soul.

you are forgetting that you believe that evolution created gravity (over time).

Bob, on rape:
"Violation of your "human dignity" causes hurt feelings, but does not cause serious harm like bank robbery or destruction of property."

[What's your evidence that "it involves a few minutes of discomfort" and that "no serious injury is done?" The psychological damage lasts a lifetime. It's not hard to discern this; all you have to do is speak to a rape victim.]

[Rape is much more than just "hurt feelings". It can also hurt the body physically. It also takes away a person's self-respect and dignity. It can also be considered destruction of property, since your body is your own and no one else has the right to force themselves on you.]

Note to "the watcher" and "I said":
Spectral evidence has been recognized as nonsense since the end of Witch Trials. If you can provide evidence for actual harm other than hysterical ranting please provide it

Bob has been reviewing literature regarding the Jewish/Christan God on this question. Information about his personal life is inconclusive. However, Moses who spoke with God and borough his commandments is clearly on the side of rape. In one case his army captured more than 30,000 young virgin females, presumably age 11-13. He gave half of them, about 16,000, to his war hardened troops to do whatever brutal warriors do with virgins. The rest he gave to the church, presumably to be sold as sex slaves for a tidy profit.

Moses was the profit of God who brought the "10 Commandments" and gave the other laws that Jews/Christians still live by today. By his example of giving thousands of virgins for the use and abuse of his troops, with the advice and consent of God, we can clearly see that rape does not always violate Jewish/Christian religious traditions.

You are right that rape is a minimal crime. It involves a few minutes of discomfort. No serious injury is done. The raging hysteria of the femiNazi and their supporters uses rape as an excuse to further their hate campaign against men. The reactant "death for rape" advocates are reminiscent of the lynchings of black men in the 1930's

Someone asks: "Could he maintain his self-respect after doing so [raping a woman]?"

Mikee answers: Yes, he was in control rather then someone else (the woman), he probably holds himself in higher esteem now. If he raped a virgin girl then he has no cause for self-disrespect. He claimed the girl he wanted and now shall keep her forever... raping her every night as his wife (which is good: females were made for men, not men for women).

"Would he violate his religious/ moral principles by raping?"

If he follows the Bible, no, if he rapes a virgin girl that is not pleged to be married off to someone else.

Death To women's Rights.

I handed one of Living Waters (Million Dollar) gospel tracts to a drive threw worker the other day while picking up some food for my family. When I pulled up to the window I decided to give her the gospel tract first before giving her my real money. Well she took the tract and before I could get a word out shut the window. She just looked with amazement at the tract for about 10 seconds then she called one of her friends over to check it out. Now I know I should have knocked on the window to let her know it’s not real, but I just had to see how far this would go. The drive threw girl and her friend looked very carefully at the tract and then took out one of those money markers, you know which kind I’m talking about the kind to tell if it’s counterfeit or not. She then walked off which was an attempt to find the manager. I thought to myself, oh no they are going to call the law on me – well if they do I guess I will just have to witness to the authorities.

A minute later the manager came back and opened the window in which she began to tell me, “Uhmm sir, this is not real money and we cannot accept this” which I responded, “Yes I know it’s not real, they do not even make a million dollar bill.”

The manager tried to hand it back, but I told her it was for the girl that was waiting on me. I gave her my real money and we both had a good chuckle. When the drive threw girl handed me my food she was obviously embarrassed. I told her no worries and that she did a wonderful job and gave her a four million dollar tip.

(hey all, back to a pesky question that Ray and his band of followers don't want to answer or just make ignorant comments about: Why are there no modern mammal fossils down in the same rock strata as the dinosaurs? i.e. a fluffy bunny down in the same strata as a t-rex or gorgonopsid.)

Iago...Don't be too quick to pin the winner medal on yourself. Your "fluffy bunny" is just another rabbit trail. Let me answer for my "band of followers." We are too busy to follow you down that worn old trail. Christians have an "abundant life" (see John 10:10). That means we are too busy about our Father's business (and have too much sense) to chase after your non-existent bunnies. Sorry.

[Perhaps it is most unfortunate that the Catholic Church canonized the NT as it currently is. I think it a major blunder to put in stuff about miracles.]

Whatever. You're an atheist, so don't worry about the canon.

[I can worry about whatever I want to worry about.]

You're an atheist, right? If so, then what do you care what the bible says or what was canonized or what wasn't? Don't you get it? As an atheist, you are completely removed from the Kingdom of God. As an atheist, your opinion of the Bible is completely out of place.

From a previous thread

>>The laws of logic are based on reality. A spaniel is a dog. Dogs are not cats. Therefore a spaniel is not a cat.<<

His response

How do you know that a spaniel will not be a cat 5 seconds from now? How do you know that it won’t be a typewriter?

Edward: They can do whatever they want, and they do, just not in this blog, because I have control over the posts and who posts.

Besides, it's a matter of truth. God is not a flying speghetti monster, Christ is not a zombie, but atheists will go to hell if they don't change, and it is the greatest act of universal evil to use one's free will to reject God, and atheists really can't have any moral foundation without being hypocritical. I don't hate atheists at all. I hate athesim. And I can't help them if I tolerate atheism in any way. It's like drug rehab: you want to help the person, but you don't help them by telling them it's ok, in any way, to get loaded.

Also, atheism is going to destroy society if we don't stop it. We are seeing the devolution it causes even now.

Responding to the question:
"Do you mean that you can experience these things after death? Could you provide evidence for this? Without invoking scripture?"

E=Mc2
Einstein proved that energy can never die or disappear but it can change forms. Although Einstein didn't believe in God, his theory could suggest life after death.

How to be an Atheist:

1) Refute everything in the Bible because men wrote it.
2) Believe and quote other writings of men to prove that the Bible is wrong.
3) Completely ignore the inconsistency between steps 1 & 2."

[There are twenty more steps on the original page, you have been warned]

[If he agreed that Adam existed then he wasn't an atheist. Simple as that - you can't be an atheist and still believe in the origin myth of the the Judeo-Christian religion by definition.]

No true scotsman fallicy.

Take a dose of your own medicine.

There were countless eye witnesses, far too many to be false. The resurrection of Jesus is one of the best supported events in human history.

Saying that he did not rise from the dead is like saying that Abraham Lincoln was never president of the USA. It's ridiculous and laughable, it shows the utter ignorance of atheists.

Basically, my goal is to purge the Earth of all things liberal. First through diplomacy, then by force. I theorise that in the grand scheme of things, that it is truly what Jesus would do.