various commenters #homophobia #kinkshaming #sexist ovarit.com
RE: The number of gay men defending porn is disturbing.
( Artemis_Lives )
Being exploitative and predatory is a fixture of male sexuality, gay or straight. The sex industry only exists because men in general create the demand.
( Unicorn )
To be honest, I'm not surprised, gay men are still men. Males are the group of people who overwhelmingly watch and are addicted to porn. I'm sure gay porn is just as harmful to a healthy sexuality as the porn aimed at heterosexual males, so yeah, "my porn only objectifies and dehumanizes men" isn't the great argument they think it is.
( sanitycheck )
Men are who they are. And who they are is largely testosterone-driven great apes with terrible socialization that encourages them to be selfish and repress any emotions. I think its a straight womans fantasy that gay men will somehow understand or care about our oppression. Gay men are still men, they can be misogynistic and awful, and they can believe that women would think it is their biological destiny to be oversexed dolls for men to play with. Watch ru pauls drag race if you dont believe me.
Not all gay men are like this- but I think youd set yourself up to fail if you start off expecting them to be wonderful like Kurt from Glee or Mitch and Cam character from Modern Family.
( Philogynist )
Yes, they aren't all like this in my experience but they aren't all wonderful. I've spoken to many gay men who are now "identifying as asexual" simply because they don't fit in with the hypersexualized gay male culture and have normal, healthy boundaries. And there are many disconnected from mainstream gay male/"LGBT" culture who don't fit in with the focus on gay porn, the flamboyant misogyny disguised as jokes, or the stereotypes.
However, I can no longer stand to socialize with any gay or bisexual men who can be found around gay bars, gay events, or parties. And I've worked with many in jobs even outside of these places who are just terrible people and have regretted assuming they were more trustworthy than heterosexual men. I think how "plugged into" mainstream "LGBTQ" culture, drag, and the gay party scene they are makes a huge difference.