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Ostroeuropa #sexist forum.nationstates.net

Given the evidence here, unless you can find some proof that Apple has accounted for this in their hiring practices and expects higher qualifications from women for the same roles, it is a necessary consequence of the discrimination in the school system that the male employees of the same position are in fact more talented than the women, because the mens grades were downsized and the womens upsized before they were even hired.

The OECD education director even notes this. It's not just me saying it. It's merely a fact people who complain about the pay gap don't want to engage with and play the "Trick" I pointed out earlier of conflating;

"How dare you suggest women are less talented than men" with "How dare you suggest THESE women are less talented than THESE men". They are. We can demonstrate why. The attempt here and in the broader movement is to force the legal system to expand discrimination against men into the labour market.

Can you explain why you think women in these roles are equally talented to the men, given what we know about the education system?

Pale Dawn #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

I think the answer is the same for both sides of the coin. We work against those who do not maintain the social values and expectations that we want them too as you do. Pride and lust are not societal values that I want to see perpetuated and celebrated in public as positive virtues(example, example 2). We are all actively shaping the world constantly and I intend to do what I can to make it a better society than we have. The LGBTQ movement celebrates Pride and often portrays people's sexual orientations as equating to their identities. In this way I hold the lgbtq community in the same regard that i hold "players" male or female who are judged similarly for equating their vices to be their identities.

Other side of the coin you decry anyone who does not embrace and accept your equating of identity to sexual preferences.
No I don't accept or embrace that. That doesn't make my dislike for your values special or different than then others that are detracting from a well ordered and positive society.
Rejecting these things in public and shared spaces strengthens our society by embracing a society with positive values and holds people accountable for their actions. Vice is not virtuous.

Distruzio #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

Not necessarily. It’s just that religious conservatives don’t have the power and influence that they used to have, and now that they can’t force their lifestyle choice on others, they get pissed off and bitchy

Indeed. They're beginning to understand that "live and let live" was a mistake. And it confuses them (that's the bitchiness you're noticing). Religious conservatives thought that if they accepted the new rules of a NeUtRaL arbiter for justice, everyone could profit. They failed to recognize the snake in the garden. That's one thing I genuinely like about the contemporary Left... they understand that you cannot stop wielding the power once you've grabbed it. A single exception, when made, becomes an exploit that can be broadened.

Decapoleis #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

[On the topic of a piece of student artwork depicting religious trauma]

Not all parents are happy to show their children blasphemous works. It's a question of freedom of education, which is why I much prefer public schools to public ones: don't like your child's school choices? Send him to another one, the market is free!

Being LGBT is hardly blasphemous, and your usage of freedom of education is equally flawed. Your school is prohibited from discriminating against you based on religious beliefs, as clearly outlined in the First Amendment. It's the school that would be in violation, not the so-called "blaspheming" artist.

I was not talking about LGBT, the promotion of which is anti-biblical anyway, so I would understand if LGBT art were banned in a context where all or most people were Christian. By blasphemy I meant the blood-stained rosary.

And I'm not American, so I don't know about American amendments.

Saiwana #homophobia #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

New Friedetopia #homophobia #fundie #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

I am an Italian Catholic. Maybe you are also Italian. But my mother is Romanian and I know a little bit about the culture of the East. People in Greece tend to be traditionalist and conservative as in most Orthodox countries. The fact that such a law passed despite the negative opinions of average people means that most of the elites, while talking about democracy, don't give a damn about the opinion of the people.

The truth is that homosexual activist NGOs are favored by powers such as the U.S., France and the U.K., and the rulers of countries affected by their influence often adapt under their pressure. The map of countries where homosexual "marriage" is recognized corresponds almost exactly to the list of countries under the influence of U.S. foreign policy. Exceptions are only a few cases of countries where there is exceptionally strong resistance to such laws, such as Italy, Poland and Japan. One likely reason for this policy is that homosexual activists are considered a reliable ally of Western countries: only Western powers defend and, often, favor them, so it is understandable how gay activism has every interest in exporting Western mindsets and interests.

I personally believe that recognizing homosexual "marriage" is a failure not only religiously, but humanly.

Ineva #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

Do people choose to be attracted to the opposite sex?

No. But believe it or not, suppressing certain urges is not bad. It is an exhibition of willpower and a rejection of dangerous temptation. While I understand children may be more vulnerable to following certain desires, the issue is that they never learn to say "no." They are not progressing; they are regressing.

Order of The Black Sun #homophobia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

I myself do not hate the LGBTQ community, however I am against it and the entire month itself. I’m surprised that most people from the community haven’t noticed that businesses just use the month for money.

Mark 10:6-9 ~ But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Leviticus 20:13 ~ If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Yet again, I want to clarify, I love everyone I just disagree with a lot of them.

Rusticus I Damianus #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

Please tell me why canceling and calling Christians "homophobes" for disagreeing with Homosexuality on Biblical grounds isn't bigoted bullying. Please tell me why burning down non-Leftist regions on Nationstates that never attacked anyone isn't bigoted bullying. Please tell me why me being attacked for being against the various ideals of the Left, such as Marxism and Homosexuality for honest non-hateful reasons isn't bigoted bullying.

Glagoly #homophobia #transphobia forum.nationstates.net

I disagree. Part of the problem is that we need to work against an institutional bias. If we focused on just making everything equal legally, said extralegal bias would remain, so to counter that, the law needs to put its thuimb on the scale a bit.

No. There will always be bias. This is a psychological component of a person. A common example is interracial couples. The human brain immediately perceives this as disgusting, abnormal. A person's beliefs about this topic do not affect the reaction in any way. Real, true, without processing. Same with homosexual couples. No matter what position a person takes, no matter how he supports it, he will subconsciously be disgusted by it. Of course, a person will reject it, or even not understand it.

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I am for the fact that if people want equality, absolute equality should be given. No "privileges". Otherwise, sooner or later it will turn into the opposite discrimination. Personally, I do not support all these movements, I mean LGBT. However, I understand that the orientation is innate, and therefore it cannot be influenced in any way. I would even compromise: same-sex marriages are allowed, true legal equality is coming, however, any propaganda of non-traditional orientation is prohibited.

Considering that anti-LGBT hate crimes have been on the rise, and conservative states keep trying to take away their rights, I'd say they have good reason to feel under attack, and perhaps oppressed.

And these are just different views on life. In fact, I have little interest in the relationship with LGBT people in other countries.

Saiwana #transphobia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

No, what is sickening from my perspective is being expected to just pretend or go along with the notion (from people I see as rediculous) that men can be women and women can be men, rather than your sex being set at birth/in the womb like was the case for most of entire world history among our species.

I want a chance with my biological "other half" as the Garden of Eden fable describes. Not some artificial creation that is an abomination at worst and a poor imitation at best in my view. I will choose staying virgin forever if the only alternative was being intimate with an MtF that passes as a woman.