Douglas S. Winnail #transphobia #homophobia

Douglas S. Winnail #transphobia #homophobia tomorrowsworld.org

FORGOTTEN LESSONS OF HISTORY

There are sins that destroy civilizations. The consequences are clear throughout human history.

Today we are witnessing a massive effort to totally transform the cultures of the Western world. Behaviors long viewed as immoral perversions—abortion, prostitution, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, transvestitism, and transgenderism—are now being promoted as acceptable and even celebrated as “alternative lifestyles.”

Governments and churches are welcoming these “liberating” trends, and schoolchildren are being taught to view these behaviors as legitimate and desirable. Many who oppose or question this agenda are attacked as narrow-minded bigots clinging to an antiquated set of values. In some places, negative discourse about these now-sanctioned behaviors is often labeled “hate speech” and punished with fines or imprisonment. But are we witnessing real progress that will usher in a new era of acceptance, equity, and social harmony? Or are we watching history repeat itself with the return of perversions that will hasten the decline of nations and the debasement of civilization?

It has long been said that if we don’t remember the lessons of history, we will repeat the mistakes of history. So, are there sobering lessons of history that are especially relevant for us today? Are we making the same mistakes that led to the downfall and demise of earlier cultures and empires? If so, why aren’t modern leaders and educators pointing out the dangers of blindly going down the same path to destruction? Why isn’t the media calling out those who ignore the tragic lessons of the past? The record of history is certainly full of vivid examples—if we have eyes to see.

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You bear false witness, claiming for example that people who oppose the equality of sexual minorities are imprisoned for their speech. Cite your sources or close your mouth.

The fact you're still free puts the lie to your claim.

"...and schoolchildren are being taught to view these behaviors as legitimate and desirable"

It's not enough for you to make a simple statement of fact: that is, school children are taught people not like themselves are acceptable. You have to go one step further and lie by claiming the kids are taught that such behaviours are desirable.

In what way are they taught that? It makes sense you and your ilk have such a hate on for fact checkers and the very idea of looking up sources. Your very existence is dependent upon the idea of an ignorant public taking you at your word rather than looking up the truth for themselves.

You trade, openly and willingly, in the ignorance and fear of an undereducated public.

Josh Buggar.

In Soviet Civilisation, sins destroy you.

Or are we watching history repeat itself with the return of perversions that will hasten the decline of nations and the debasement of civilization?

Alright, show some evidence of civilizations that have fallen because of abortion, prostitution, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, transvestitism, and transgenderism AND ONLY due to those things. No other contributing factors like wars, famine or natural disasters allowed. And no "God's punishment" either. Give me one single example of a civilization that ended just because men could marry men, or because some boys turn out to be girls. Go on. Just one.

Church historians claimed that Rome fell because it had become wicked and decadent. I think that's one of the lessons of history the author is talking about. But, of course, the fall of Rome was due to many factors, including barbarian invasions, over-reliance on slave labor, political instability, ineffective administration, decline of the military, etc. etc. etc. "Immoral perversions" didn't make the list. It never does.

<@Speakeasy> #127763

I suspect the causality he has in mind is that this contributes to lowering the mean masculinity sharply—men are no longer as “manly”, and so no longer as good at rebuffing raiders and rivals who stayed that “manly”. Don’t ask me what he thinks would happen if humanity as a whole renounced “manliness”. My best guess is that he thinks the wilds would tear up civilization and force us back into nomadic bands, with the somehow “manly”-only will to “conquer” Nature and its surges having itself waned.

Even though I swear I’ve heard one or two suggestions that a woman probably (sorry) seeded the idea of horticulture…

I think a nasty economic crisis and political turnoil did more to weaken Rome than alleged sexual immorality.

If I were to remember history

Christianity had people burned and tortured and killed
When Constatine embraced it, Rome fell
Christianity mixing with government led to corruption and that caused socities to fall.

Which is based on learning and remembering history. Before you point at those "sins" look to your own. Look at Quiverfull and the Duggars. Priests molesting children. Matt Gaetz. And more

<@Skyknight> #127796

No, the Evangelical Church teaches these guys that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for all the sex they were having, and thus too much rampant sexual stuff will lead to God smiting the country.

<@DarkPhoenix> #127832

Speakeasy did say that divine punishment couldn’t be used…

<@Skyknight> #127845

Yep, but they can’t explain it without divine punishment, so they’ll 100% ignore that part.

<@Skyknight> #127796

Yeah, that's probably it. Somehow, some men marrying men means "manliness" is devalued, and therefore society is crushed by "manlier men". It must be tiring to view the world like this.

<@Speakeasy> #127878

Perhaps easy, though, in that you only need one metric to value things by—how much “manliness” is able to exist, ideally outdoing not just others’ “manliness”, but Nature’s “manliness”, too.

Conquer or be conquered. (And yes, there was a Reagan Republican at Slacktivist once who referred to Tlingit et al. hunting salmon, and possibly bears, as “conquering” them, at least if no straw has crept into my recollection.)

Excellent comment by The_Dybbuk.

When sermons focus on anti-government conspiracy theories and counterculture with society demonization and implausible threats against it, it suggests dominionism, attempting to impose an irrational authoritarian theocratic regime based on alienation from reality, taboos and appeal to false authorities.

A more humble and honest Christianity would focus on one's own sins and forgiveness instead. A less hypocritical Christianity, according to Jesus, would pray in private and focus on love, rather than demonization and society demonization sermoning. A more honest scholarly approach would understand the theology through traditions and historical context, rather than trying to resurrect pre-enlightenment ignorance and savagery.

Precisely, there's no need to repeat history because of pseudohistorical claims, misrepresentation of history, mythology etc. There are very good reasons for significant freedom and anticorruption developments like the separation of powers and the separation of church and state. Then true education, including actual history and about human diversity, empower people. This opportunist exploits freedoms allowed by such, while advocating to retrograde society and steal those freedoms away in favor of an abusive elite who even wants to dictate how people live and mislead them with alienation narratives. It pushes lies for frivolous persecution complex, to justify actual abuse, for exploitation and persecution purposes.

Slippery slope fear mongering nonsense like claims that because all people are not forced to fit patriarchal stereotype roles and to reproduce civilization will collapse and that this justifes the oppression of minorities is ridiculous. Those minorities are understood to always have existed, to be part of human diversity. It's also false that when people are allowed to be themselves and express themselves, it somehow forces everybody else to be like them. That's a mirror of authoritarianism, a projection of its own conformism imposition against human rights and liberties. It also relies on its own incredible ignorance that it also aims to impose as "truth" doctrine.

It's also interesting to notice that like fascist narratives, this claims that there's an attack on society, to justify their own attack against it. This is obviously anti-Western civilization activism, aiming to redefine it. Liberalism is part of Western civilization.

“Or are we watching history repeat itself with the return of perversions that will hasten the decline of nations and the debasement of civilization?”
No, wait. You’re saying that same-sex marriage is something that destroys civilizations?
But the entire time it’s been being argued, we were told it’s NEVER been tried. NO ONE ever accepted it. It’s historically NEVER been accepted or forced on people. That marriage was ALWAYS just 1 man and 1 woman. Except when it was 1 mand an some larger number of women.
NOW, suddenly, there’s history behind it?
What the fuck? Pick a tune and dance to it.