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Adiya #fundie christianforums.com

Prove that there have been people who have died (since Jesus death and resurrection) who have not heard of him. So far you're making claims but you have no proof. You have no evidence that proves they were never given the option of choosing Jesus. If God sent an angel to tell Mary she was pregnant, He could just as easily tell some guy on a remote island about Jesus.

Schoeder #fundie christianforums.com

["Imagine a very small part of DNA code.
GATTAGT
when a species reproduces, they replicate this piece of code. Their offspring will also have
GATTAGT
But reproduction isn't always perfect. When splitting and dividing, DNA can mutate. sometimes it's a deletion.
GATTAGT -> GATAGT
or perhaps a duplication.
GATTAGT -> GATTAGTT

Both these new codes are different from the original. They will have a different outcome when translated into body type. It's new information, just as adding or deleting letters can make new words."]

so if you have gattagt it becomes gataggtt, it has new info. right no it is just a new way to do what it usually did. like mixing to colors. does this make something new. its a different color but nothing new or no new thing was created. i think if gattgat became eheehho that would be something new.

LittleNipper #fundie christianforums.com

Just How Slfish Are Atheists?

What have atheist's done to contibute to a better society? How many schools and universities have they established in the name of atheism, or have they ( as I suspect) only taken over those already established in the name of GOD? How many hospitals exist because atheists care anything for the old and sickly, or is it that they have promoted suicide, putting the old to sleep to lessen the burden on themselves? How many countries have been founded by Atheists, or again, have atheists only taken over pre-existing nations that were founded by various faiths? What patriotic songs have atheist's inspired? Any spiritual hymns? Has the term IN GOD WE TRUST been shown to hurt anyone, or is it just an issue that atheist's find troublesome? Whould you rather live in an atheistic place or nation, or would you rather live in a place or nation that considers GOD the most important thing to know about...?
Does it really seem that atheists really give or do they simply demand for themselves? Is any help an atheist provides motivated by his atheism or is his compassion motivated by the religious concerns around him? Are atheists takers or givers? You decide.....

LittleNipper #fundie christianforums.com

There are many secular hospitals but many did not start out that way. And one must remember that secular isn't exactly the same as atheistic. Atheists are involved with the Red Cross, but an atheist didn't start the Red Cross. In fact, the Red Cross didn't start out as a money making adventure. Sadly, secularisst seem to reduce everything to profitability as the bottom line.... Charitable atheists give to what atheistic charitable organizations? Or can they only find Christian ones to contribute to?

2ducklow #fundie christianforums.com

long hair is a sign of submission to men which is the rightfull place for women. Short hair on women is a sign to angels that the women are being disobediant and thus they cannot operate. ONe can be as zealous for spirits as one wants to be but if the women have short hair the angels are gonna hold back per. 1 cor. 11.10. Without having spirits (angels) there wont be as many healings, prophecies, miracles, etc because the angels are held back by women.

julietheartist #fundie christianforums.com

I've never seen a snuff movie, but from what I understand they are the result of a progressive appetite of porn. ie. soft porn, hard porn, bondage, rape, s&m, etc. My husband, who openly professes that porn was his greatest addiction, expalined it to me once.

ghettopreacha #fundie christianforums.com

really?
this is what david did. u know he was mastubating when he was staring at bathsheba. pornography is addicting. sadly to say, sumpeople dont get free from it. i have thank god, but i dont think u should even start. mastubating and stuff raises the level of oxytocin, a pleasure hormone. if u keep masturbating and stuff, that oxytocin level raises constantly, and when u get married, that level is soo high, that sometimes your partner cannot satisfy you. that when divorce and cheating, and all sorts of stuff happens. my advice is not to start in the first place

oldwiseguy #fundie christianforums.com

The earth was originally created for the angels, perhaps as long ago as science calculates its age.

They 'kept not' (maintained) their estate, instead rebelled with Lucifer.

They were cast (back) to earth. This caused massive destruction, upheaval, etc.

They were consigned to inhabit creatures especially made by God to reflect their wicked nature. This continued for perhaps millions of years until God began his plan of restoration.

During this time the earth continued to suffer flooding, earthquakes, upheavals, etc. from the destructive forces set in motion by the casting down. Generations of these creatures died in the turmoil and were buried in the sediments.

The first stage of the restoration was to destroy that ancient world, by a final worldwide flood.

Genesis 1:2 describes the earth in that flooded condition.

MaryBurwell #fundie christianforums.com

Proof of Satan is the evidence of chaos in the world. It was a chain reaction started by Satan. Evidence that God loves Satan is also the chaos in the world, because God is allowing Satan to sow his wild oats for the sole purpose of returning Satan to God's family and good favor.

Jedi #fundie christianforums.com

As I discuss the topic of masculinity more and more with women, it becomes apparent that a large number of women quite frankly want feminine men (Or women with male parts - however you want to look at it). They just want men to be "good boys;" the next Mr. Rogers. Half of them hoping for a man uninterested in sex, or at least as little interested as she is. If men were lions, these women would clip their claws, inject them with estrogen, and put them on a leash.

Why are so many women interested in feminine men? Could it be that such a man harbors everything she wants: a woman companion but with male parts? I'm sorry, but a man who likes to knit sweaters, wear pink, watch sappy movies all day long, paints his toenails, carries a purse, likes fluffy animals and hates action movies... the guy is a mere shadow of a man. I'm sorry, ladies, but there is more to being a man than having a rod. If that's all you crave from a man, you really don't desire a man at all.

Tell me, ladies, what do you desire in a man? Is there anything masculine at all or is the only reason you're choosing to date a man over a woman because of the y chromosome they carry and the biblical commands that follow? It's sad indeed to see so many women craving feminine men. I suspect at this rate, most men will be feminine some time in the future, and people will ask themselves, "Where have all the real men gone?" I'll then spit in my grave in response: you asked them to be women.

daverain #fundie christianforums.com

[There is no male or female in Christ (Gal 3.27-28)]

For now:

That's referring to

-SALVATION-

(please look up the context, even)

-ONLY-.

Otherwise

-SAME SEX 'MARRIAGES'-,

would be o.k with God

(after all, there is 'neither male, nor female')

Same sex 'marriages', are

-NOT- o.k. with God,

by the way.

Also, much of what you spek of is in the Old Covenant:

You know, the place where

God used a

-DONKEY- ,

to instruct Ballam (Numbers 22)

Do you feel we should place

'donkeys behind pulpits'

to teach?

If so, I disagree with your hermanutic.

talitha #fundie christianforums.com

['Would Al Gore Have Won The Election?']

In 2000 God intervened. Just the little bit that I have read about AG's activities since he left the VPcy has been chilling to me. He is involved in power at a higher level than the national level; to be the US President would be a step down for him. I believe that's why he didn't run. Not interested.

Marie O's #fundie christianforums.com

[Should I wear a chastity belt to stop masturbation?]

Maybe not a chastity belt (not very practical/hygienic) but there are other devices you can get. My fiance has one, it goes round the base of his xxxxx and just sits there until he gets aroused, then it has teeth that stick in and hurt him so he turns his mind to something else. Plus, for obvious reasons it can't be removed by a guy who's in that condition.

Personally I think it's terrible that he has to wear that thing, it hurts him a lot at times and he bleeds, but we're sharing a home together now and not married and we've promised each other nothing immoral will happen and he feels it's the only way he can keep on the right path

CCWoody #fundie christianforums.com

We Calvinists rightly believe that all of mankind fell in Adam into sin and rebellion against God, a rebellion that is actively pursued by even infants. Thus, it was entirely just to kill the little ones and infants, even if they were not actively rebellion in the matter of their parents.

Angel4Truth #fundie christianforums.com

Not sure why it makes no sense that sin passes from the male , since sin was accounted first to adam even though eve first took the forbidden fruit ...then Christ was born of a virgin , why does it make no sense that some genetics are only passed from the male and not the female ? It makes perfect sense to me .

oldwiseguy #fundie christianforums.com

Dinosaur bones are the remains of animals that were created by God for use by earthbound demons, Satan included. In successive destructions over billions of years, usually by great flooding, God destroyed them.

Science misinterprets these incarnations of punishment, calling them evolution.

God still allows demons to influence animal behavior, as is evident by the horrible, bloody carnage taking place in all levels of the animal world.

Thus God hisself buried dem bones.

nstinson2004 #fundie christianforums.com

[discussing "modesty in clothing"]

...or muslim women....
seriously, muslim women/girls in general seem much more appealing to me than "chirstian" women/girls in the aspect that they leave it all to be dsired and save EVERYTHING.. except for like maybe their hands or sometimes arms...
but they cover their legs, faces, etc. and only guys get to see it on their wedding day, now thats what I'd like to find..*sigh*

ShiningSonBeam #fundie christianforums.com

The problem with "pro-choice" is that it's not reserved for those noble exceptions like rape, incest, the life of the mother... rather, it has become a business (precisely why this pastor probably got so upset)... huge business that hands out condoms that are rated most ineffective to prevent pregnancies when compared to the effectiveness of store-bought condoms, in the hopes that one more teenager might become pregnant and have to abort.

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

even monkeys arent foolish enough to accept evolution instead of a god. if they were designed like us even they would believe in a god. those animals are given so much credit that if one suddenly spoke and said "i believe in Jesus" the evolutionary theory would go right down the tubes

dad #fundie christianforums.com

Thinking about it, another change in a merged universe is gravity. There, -why would the distance between, or size of PO [Physical Only] objects matter? There are no PO objects! Matter is spiritual and physical. As evidence of this, we simply need to look to New Jerusalem. 1500 miles high and wide and long, and it comes down to earth! It doesn't smash into it!!!!! Floats like a butterfly, and lands in a world where bees sting no more!
Earth, as the center of the universe, with no gravity as we know it! Yet, people still walk those streets of gold! We can go flying off in space if we want, but it is ordered better than gravity. Now, let's apply that to the earth in the past, before the split! We, in our physical fallen state walked like normal, no problem. But not with gravity as we now have in a physical only world!!!!!!! Wow. This gets better all the time'
Now, let's knock off the old problem of how did they build the pyramids right away! If they were built in the still merged world in the century after the flood, (or some before as well) hey, no gravity as we now have!!! How about the canopy or rings?? Piece of cake!
And, for the piece de resistance, the continental sliding--No wonder it was easy!!!!!

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

["...yet you have the gall to say that scientists, who are experts in their fields, who spend their entire lives working/researching/learning about these things, have managed to not notice the supposed errors that you, an ignorant layman have discovered. unbelievable. you represent creationists well."]

you do the same thing to men like kent hovind and ken ham, who are experts in their fields, who spend their entire lives working/researching/learning about the bible and the inspired word of god. yet you resist them and accept the scientists guistimates on how the world works????

qh93536 #fundie christianforums.com

God started out as a spirit floating in the black emptiness of space. It must have been very lonely. I asked him once that if his spiritual being could be seen, how big it would be. He told me that if I could see his spiritual being, it would be about the size of the sun.

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

darwin was delusional and the ideas he proposed then would be laughable in todays world. if someone came up with an idea like "llife came from aliens" they would be considered insane. but not darwin. satans role in this world is much more powerful than any of you could believe. the denial of satan is much worse than accepting the fact that youre resisting god himself

Harrythepizzaguy #fundie christianforums.com

What we are seeing with the Harry Potter movies and books is a seduction of young people into the world of magic and evil by dark seducing spirits. What do seducing spirits do? They seduce--and they are very good at it. It's the same with the Harry Potter magic as it is with pornography and drugs and Halloween, the so-called "Innocent" demon celebration. What seducing spirits do is start with pretend innocence--"oh, it's just a little harmless magic;" or "it's just soft-porn;" or "it's just a little weed;" or "Halloween is just an innocent holiday." Once they get people on the hook, then they draw them deeper and deeper into the seduction of spiritual darkness. From what I've heard, the latest Harry Potter movie was the darkest one yet. For Christians, participating in these things is like throwing "just a little incense" on the altars of these idols...It may seem innocent, but innocent-looking demons are still deadly demons

QuantaCura #fundie christianforums.com

[On the Founding Fathers who were largely deists and agnostics]

Now, I could care less what the founders of this country were tripping on at the time. It's meaningless from my perspective. As Christians we should live our call and shape society and governemental authority to the Christian ideal regardless of intentions of the founders of a state.

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

gravity in of itself is a joke. the way it reads you would think that objects of more mass have more gravitational pull than those of less mass, but if that is the case then why do we see the moon obiting the earth and not the sun???? or why does jupiters 'gravity' have more effect on meteors than the suns 'gravity'? scientists must be blind to these occurances...howsad...

Argent #fundie #conspiracy #homophobia christianforums.com

The first step is to convince legislators that "hate crimes" legislation is needed to deter "gay bashing" as if were a special type of assault. Thereby bestowing special status to homosexuals.

The next step is to then claim that for Christians to speak against homosexual behavior is "hate speech" and that that is a crime under "hate crimes" legislation. So, that then pastors, priests and other Chrisitans can be prosecuted under the "hate crimes" laws in order to silence them.

We know what the ultimate goal of the homosexual agenda is

RichardT #fundie christianforums.com

["How is the minority being treated hostily a good thing?" 'I often ask that when I hear of atheists being treated with hostility by Christians.']

It should stay this way...

A one world religion and one world secular political system dosn't sound fun to me....

qh93536 #fundie christianforums.com

Also, I believe that there will soon be a visit to Heaven by over twenty people, and cameras will be allowed. The people will be taken to heaven for a visit and returned to the Earth the next day. I know that photos can be doctored and edited, but these will be validated by experts.

RichardT #fundie christianforums.com

[To a Jewish poster]

sigh... This messiah that you will be following is not actually the messiah , he will be the antichrist.....

The messiah already came and died for your sins 2000 years ago... He did fullfill jewish prophecy , and he will set peace on the world in his second comming...

Unless my life is in vain , Jesus is Lord.....

oldwiseguy #fundie christianforums.com


God refers to himself as a potter. Job reveals that God rather painstakingly formed the earth. If you've watched a potter at work you have a good idea how God formed the earth (the only object we can study up close). The angels watched and rejoiced when the foundations were laid. This too, indicates a careful, methodical, process.

The finished product would have revealed this as well. You have to visualize the perfection that was the earth before the rebellion. It's orbit would have been perfectly circular, with no tilt in axis. No harsh winter, a tropical climate with abundant plant life. No destructive weather patterns. This is also the restored condition God has promised.

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

atheism itself is a joke, i mean who honestly has the LACK of a belief of god? thats like saying "i lack the belief of airplanes". the signs of airplanes and god are all around us, and for anyone to deny it is kind of disturbing to my eyes

whitedove7 #fundie christianforums.com

[Were any or all of those stories of babies being born for the reason of being sacrificed to satan true? The McMartin case? I have read there is no evidence of any kidn that any satanic deaths ever occured.]

Very much so today! I worked with a SRA[Satanic Ritual Abuse] girl that was a breeder and they would induce the birth of the baby to sacrifice. They even force her to kill other babies as well.

One of her pregnancies went full term and they sold her baby through the black market down in New Orleans.

I've worked with several SRA people that have stories like this. Pretty sad!

Monica02 #fundie christianforums.com

[On using sex education proactively to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, thereby reducing the need for abortions]

I am all for anything that does not contradict the teachings of God and Church. As long as sex ed is approved by parents and does not include the teaching or acceptance of sex outside of marriage or the use of artificial contraception or abortion then I am okay with it.

Br. Max #fundie christianforums.com

['Hmmm if I remember correctly Hitler was a "right winger" also!!']

You don't remember right. Hitler was a SOCIALIST. Nazi is short for NATIONAL SOCIALIST - a Statist. You know - one of those who think that we should look to the state to answer every problem in society. Right-wingers don't thing government is the answer to ANY problem. In actuality - we think that the government is the CAUSE of most problems.

John16:2 #fundie christianforums.com

[Responding to the accusation of flat out denying evidence]

HA! I've been waiting for a chance to post this one;

"So shall it be at the end of the world, the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth"-Matthew 13:49-50.

Come and get it aliens! All the evil you can eat or feed your chupacabras! Angels kill the evilest third of the population, who aren't arrested instead in Rev 9. ufoevidence.org

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