You claim that the bible doesn't specifically condemn slavery, well it doesn't condemn littering, or pollution either, or a thousand other injustices either.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.
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That’s exactly what the atheistic communists did. More than 100 million murdered by starvation, bullet, and torture, and the communist heretics were reduced to copying subversive books on tiny pieces of paper that they furtively passed between themselves.

Great people those atheists.

Yet,....Once the bible was easily in reach of the common man. We suddenly saw a rapid increase in the rule of law, honest courts, and fair government officials, and the creation of wealth. The warlords were plainly told that they too we equal before the law. Freedom flourished. Slavery was abolished for the first time in human history.

Christianity is a **REVOLUTIONARY** idea!

[Re: Terri Schiavo. Nope, they won't get over it...]

You are right. Roe was the real landmark of barbarism.

Maybe what made Terri Schiavo’s case so stark was that instead of an invisible murder carried out in a womb, we saw a living adult human being deliberately being starved to death under specific judicial sanction. It came home to me that none of us is safe.

(the “established” conservative media have steered well clear of the birth certificate story, for obvious reasons)

It isn’t **obvious** to me.

Why is conservative talk radio so quiet about this? How is it possible to keep **all** of them so quiet?

I really don’t get it.

Let's hold Obama to the **SAME** standards as every other president!!!

Other presidents had established families, relatives and friends who visited the mother and newborn at their home and/or hospital and were thrilled to testify to anyone who asked that they **knew ** the newborn baby president and his family. Other presidents have church records of christenings and many witnesses who attended. Other presidents had **proud** doctors and midwives who proudly announce that they delivered the baby president to be.

Oh?...Obama can't do that. Well!...Let hold him to a LESSER standard that other presidents. Let's have present:

long form birth certificate
adoption records,
draft registration
passport details
proof that he swore allegiance to the U.S. on his return to the U.S.

This is pretty simple stuff. If his citizenship were on the up and up he could have all this clearly up in 3 days and $100. That he has armies of lawyers working to hide this information is ( in itself) highly suspicious.

[Re: Saint Terri Schiavo]

I read a prophecy someone gave (I don’t recall who) that if Terri were allowed to die, that we would have a spirit of death come upon our country and that many, many more deaths would take place due to violence, attacks on our country, etc. I pray not, but it looks like it’s coming to pass. God hates seeing the innocent slaughtered and will not stand for it.

[A terrible thing, suicide is. It’s too bad that [World Net Daily] is going to exploit this poor man’s troubles for political gain.]

What a disgusting comment. WND has no need for political gain.

But gravity has no substance. It cannot be directly measured or observed. It can only be detected through its influence on objects within its field.

If that’s the case, why isn’t that categorized as the supernatural? It is no more detectable than God is and in no other way than God would be.

Just give “single people” the same rights ( soc security benefits and pension inheritance and medical decisions given to a significant other, equality in taxation).....

and the whole rationale for gay marriage goes away!

[A true moral person would not kill because he believes that it is wrong.]

But how would he know he is moral? He’s just a guy that doesn’t kill people.

Adolf Hitler can make just as strong an argument for his own personal morality as can your hypothetical moral athiest. Belief in your own rightness is the only standard.

And there is no way to tell the difference between the two, except outcomes. That takes you back to your prison argument.

In evolutionary terms, the outcomes would be measured by how many offspring you have 1,000 years later. By that standard, Ghengis Khan is the most moral man who ever lived. His philosophy? “Kill the men. Rape the women.”

If a murderer avoids jail and has 20 kids, he is moral. Adolf Hitler, OTOH, died childless and with nothing. He was not moral.

The Left has been de-establishing that common moral underpinning since the Bolshevik Revolution. Academe carries that torch proudly. If they succeed and kill Christianity in this country, there will be no one to stop the radical Muslims from beheading each and every one of them.

The Judeo Christian Tradition is from where all morality and true justice derive. Good soldiering requires adherence to a strict moral code, else our military would have long ago devolved into anarchy and the barbaric practice reminiscent of other pagan or amoral cultures. The American military would not hold that reputation so well earned over two centuries, were not the Judeo-Christian Traditions central in its doctrine of moral conduct.

All of Western civilization owes its birth, its liberty, its jurisprudence, and its prosperity and longevity to the Catholic Church, and the Christian moral code, without which no semblance of the above attributes would have risen from the rubble that was the old Roman Empire. That is not my opinion, but historical fact.

I have no intention of arguing Catholic apologetics with you, not wanting to cast pearls before swine. I long ago discovered atheists comprise the most closed of all intellects, while the irony is they claim to have enlightened minds.

Moreover, the typical arguments the atheist conjures involve circular logic and the disproval of negatives.

[sounds like this guy believes in oligarchy more than a "free republic"]

there is a moral imperative for commanders to mandate Christian exposure of their personnel on active duty.

Unlike other scenarios in a free society, a military establishment mandates immediate obedience to orders from senior ranked officers and line officers in combat 24/7.

The commanding officer therefore, has incurred a responsibility for his juniors to insure they are provided with an opportunity to be provided the Gospel if they are unbelievers and an opportunity to receive proper pastor-teacher guidance as believers while they are serving under the command of others.

Both the gift of pastor-teach and the gift of evangelism are spiritual communication gifts given by God the Holy Spirit to certain believers. The spiritual communication gift of pastor-teacher is given to a person to spiritually discern the appropriate part of the Word to be taught to the believers in his midst per God’s Plan, so that they are in the right place at the right time to perform by His Plan.

Likewise, the spiritual communication gift of evangelism is given to some believers to communicate to unbelievers.

Unlike the common citizen who incurs the responsibility to find his own pastor-teacher and continue obediently in faith through Christ in his daily studies, the military serviceman, is also under the legitimate authority of his commanding officer to obey 24/7 the orders of his seniors.

Likewise, his seniors bear the responsibility to God to insure pastor-eachers are made available to the serviceman for their spiritual growth, only possibile through faith in Christ through daily intake of Bible doctrine by their appropriate pastor-teacher.

Recent ecumenical perspectives fail to recognize the significance of God the Holy Spirit in the continuing sanctification of each and every believer, every day and moment of their lives. Many worldly officers believe they are able to substitute a worldly system of counterfeit belief independent of faith through Christ and still advance in good works. Such thinking is good for nothingness, not only jeopardizing the sanctification and spiritual growth of their juniors, but also placing their commands at risk of divine discipline, being in the wrong place at the wrong time on the battlefield which is deadly.

IMHO, if our commander-in-chief was remaining in fellowship through Christ in all things, he would relieve those in the chain of command who seek such counterfeit substitutes to God’s Plan and place the US armed forces at risk, without divine guidance through faith in Christ.

Don't feel bad. Islam is not a religion. It is a political system that uses some theological terms and concepts in order to wield psychological power. It doesn't even begin to be internally consistent enough to be a religion, let alone a metaphysical system for explaining observable phenomena.

[Thread about atheists in the military. It's a gold mine all the way.]

I am throughly fed up and sick to death of the minority of Godless degenerate heathens that insist on demoralizing this great nation!
Freedom was never intended to be a trophy for depravity, perversion, immorality, et al.
If they want to live in a demoralized degenerate uber-liberal disease ridden, drug addled, crime ridden immoral permissive utopia then move to France, Sweden, Holland or some other reprobate nation that grants credence to such and those that practice/worship same...
Get the hell out of this country! We will never let you have your way. Get over it!!!!!!!

As far as literally creating the world in a matter of days, since God has been for all eternity, and will be for all eternity, I will let Him define what a day is, rather than try to interpret it for myself. In that since only, evolution and Biblical history can be compatible.

As for the creation of man, even Darwin himself admitted that without fossil records (which dont exist), his theory was bunk. And Darwin never imagined the nano-tech like machinery of the DNA contained in cellular structure. The cell was just a black box to him from which life could spring from nothing. If Darwin knew what we know today about the intelligent design going on within DNA and the complex machinery required for something as simple as blood clotting, he would not come to the same conclusion he did.

But some scientists will never admit the answer lies in God. They would rather suppose it was placed here by some other worldly species...just pushing out the question they dont want to actually find the right answer to.

It’s ironic, but every Atheist I know believes in Ghosts, UFO’s, Karma, etc...despite zero evidence of any of the above existing.

There’s too many people here saying “move on... move on... nothing to see...” with this story, and I don’t understand why. This isn’t some right-wing fringe lunatic conspiracy - it has to do with a very real issue concerning a very real document that Obama obviously and clearly does NOT want anyone to get ahold of, as well as a complete and massive blackout not only by the mainstream press but by most of the people we’d previously thought would be publicly demanding this document be produced.

[Thread about atheists in the military. It's a gold mine all the way.]

No. I would not actually shoot them... I was being a smart-a$$...

However, I sure would like to do just that at times for the damage atheists, and those of similar persuasion, do to our culture.

BTW, when push comes to shove, an atheist soldier is not going to be too concerned with the well-being of his fellow soldiers, or the treatment of POWs, or civilians, or much of anything else. Such considerations depend entirely on an absolute moral reference. Atheists, by definition, have no foundation on which to set moral absolutes... everything is relative to the individual’s subjective point of view; i.e.: situational ethics. That is the mindset that dominates most of our culture these days.

No he is either the Anti Christ or the demon preceding him.
NO ONE has come forward to say that they sat next to him in class, was in the same college dorm/apartment building with him, sat next to him in high school, played sports or studied with him as a child, was a former boyfriend (and yes I do think he is a homosexual), was even his next door neighbor! NOT ONE!

What other president or presidential candidate in history can you say that about???

HE HAS NO PAST!

Its as if he was suddenly created/born when he showed up at Harvard.

Obama is using the Cabinet as a smokescreen to divert attention from his appointment of radical cadres, all placed in secondary positions in his administration. The next step will occurr when a national emergency happens: martial law will be ordered, the Constitution will be suspended, and a dictatorship will exist with Obama as tyrant.

We don’t need to give up on God. God is what made this country great to begin with. What we do need to do is to start telling these people to get out of our lives. If they don’t believe in God, that’s their choice but they need to show as much respect for our religion as they demand for their race, sexual preference, non-religion, etc.

...I think that Christians are being attacked daily far more than any minority. Where’s our protection? I’m going to call my congressman tomorrow and say that I want the Christian bashing to stop NOW!

pedophilia and drunk driving seem to be national pastimes in mexico, they don’t mean anything by it it is just their cultural persuasion, different strokes for different folks, if you want a new roof on your house for cheap it is something we just have to get used to

If there was nothing to hide, we would have seen a real raised seal original vault birth certificate by now. However, don’t worry kittens about Obama having to be impeached. The Supreme Court will not let the oath be said if it has any doubt that Obama is not constitutionally qualified. Did you forget who administers the oath?

Clarence Thomas is also secretly p.o.ed about the first Obama 60 Minutes interview when he trashed Thomas. Thomas knows Obama is a fraud and a half-rican at best and probably just a Muzzi in disguise in reality. Remember, he who laughs last laughs best. Remember, the judges on the bench still respect the constitution (we are two votes away from the end of that tradition). They had no qualms about jumping in to protect the process in 2000. This is a far more simple decision. The Federalist implication of the term “natural born” is of particular importance to the court and it has never really been addressed by the court.

In the end, someone has to certify this candidate and if it the court believes that hasn’t been done either by Secretaries of State or the responsible nominating party, then a process has to be mapped our and a test of legitimacy must be enforced...this should interest the court enough to move ahead with one of these cases...the one with the greatest constitutional implications.

A atheist is about to enter the forest to conduct a scientific study of great importance. Just as he begins his hike, he is met by a six-year-old boy who frantically warns, "Mister! Don't go into those woods on account of there's a monster that lives there and he'll eat you for lunch!"

The atheist condescendingly pats the boy's head and smugly explains that there are no such things as monsters, and then he enters the woods and promptly gets eaten by a bear.

Moral
The atheist is smart enough to know that there are no such things as monsters but dumb enough not to take heed

The [Unitarian Universalist Association] is a pagan cult and a “church” for revisionist homosexuals. In their bazaaro world the sin of Sodom was unhospitality.

(comments on a puff piece connecting Obama's inauguration with the anniversary minting of the Lincoln Penny)

How appropiate as Obama’s inauguration marks the day we will return to a form of slavery again under the banner of the Democrat party.

This is great!
Both One Term legislators from Illinois.
Both known for giving Speeches!
Both involved with a war!

One born in Kentucky the other born in Kenya oops I mean Hawaii

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LOL! Obama, just do what Lincoln did. Raise an army and invade the country to see your policies put into effect.

He's promised to do as much with his Civilian Security Force that will be as large as, as well trained as and as well funded as our military.

We're going to need to bring the troops home from Iraq to help fight them off.

That’s how you will be voting, by influencing your husband, it would be a great incentive to encourage single women to get a husband.

I’ll support the office and hope/pray that there are at least a few people in his administration with the guts to tell him when he (Obama) or Pelosi are going to far against the interests of America. Now, if in a few years, he appoints himself to the position of High Chancellor, then we’ll have a problem.

Capitalists run scared. Economy being set up to be taken over by government to protect the "middle class". Obama henchmen, Pelosi and Reid, begin legislation to take over all major industry corporations. At what point does Obama disband Congress and take complete control?

I’d be cool with a system where single women can’t vote, and married men get 2 votes, one for himself and one for his wife.

Sorry, ladies, the country started going down the crapper after females got the vote. You can have the vote back after we suspend the 19th for a generation. That will give men the opportunity to peaceably go through the various institutions via the ballot box and remove all the fascists, communists, nazis and socialists cemented into our society by liberal female morons.

If you have a different idea that doesn’t involve an all-out war against these leftists that are stealing freedom away from our children, let’s hear it.

Taking away the women’s vote for 30 years is the most logical and peaceful way to take back our country.

[later post]

Cleaning out the institutions involves getting rid of leftists in government, academia and the media. Without that influence, leftists can’t survive.

As I said, you have a better idea, let’s hear it.

[on Obama's grandmother]

Karl Rove said the other day that he would know who is going to win by afternoon today. obama would have the same info....he had her snuffed out to eliminate her from spilling the beans if he wins. Perhaps obama knows he’s going to win? Not a good sign......or maybe nothing.

No worries, when Imam Obama institutes sharia law women won’t be voting anymore. Problem solved.

I’m not PC. Suspend the 19th amendment. The Founders didn’t give females the vote for good reason. Liberal females vote for daddy government so they can sit around on their fat butts, drink beer, watch soap operas and demand someone else pick up the tab for their idiot commie kids.

[On powell endorsing obama]
Dr. King’s dream is dead. It’s totally about the color of skin for these people. The content of ones character has ZERO bearing on their decision.

[On colin powell endorsing obama]

Watch the republican base rally and be mad as hell, its out in the open, the one top black general endorses the black candidate, thats just racist, i guess, well it is in Baracks book.

[On colin powell endorsing obama]
If Obama wins how long will it take before a reparations bill is put before the Congress?

Mr. Powell, You have just confirmed that you are a racist -choosing a candidate based on the color of his/her skin, and nothing more than an Afirmative Action clown yourself. You “endorse” a neo-Marxist amateur fool for president - this clearly goes against everything you allegedly “stood” for. What this now does, though, is to open up the Pandora’s box of us “whiteys” voting for McCain/Palin besed soley on their race. Oh, one last thing, McCain/Palin campaign, Jerry Wright can now be used - just remember what Geraldine Ferraro said “The only reason Obama is where he is is because he’s black.” Go get ‘em! McCain/Palin 2008!

Powell just sold his soul to the antichrist. God help us all and America’s blood will be on Powell’s hands.

Of course he did. Powell was an affirmative action general officer, and Obama is a wannabe affirmative action commander-in-chief.

neither is smart enough or talented enough to do it on their own

All is forgiven...he’s back on the Dem “plantation”, where he belongs. Oh, AND HE’S BLACK.

If gays really could keep quiet, and separate, it would be one thing—but they have a way of ganging up on Lot’s door and demanding more victims to recruit.

The AIDS epidemic in Africa was not because of a unique African promiscuity. In some ways, it is the product of efforts to reduce the number of Africans.

In his book Population Control: Real Costs, Illusory Benefits, Steven Mosher tells readers about the work of researchers David Gisselquist and Stephen Potterat. Prior to their work, it had been assumed that the AIDS epidemic had been spread by heterosexual sex.

Assumed because there was little evidence that this was the case. But, as Mosher points out, it was an assumption that suited the needs of various influential parties: most obviously, AIDS activists.

Another such group was population controllers who believed that Africa was “overpopulated.” A heterosexually spread epidemic would allow them to flood the continent with condoms. While Africans might not have used them for birth control, surely they would use them to prevent the spread of a potentially lethal virus!

Gisselquist and Potterat put the heterosexual transmission assumption to the test and found it wanting. Their peer-reviewed analysis of 22 studies found that instead of 90 percent of African AIDS cases being the result of sexual transmission, as was assumed, the real number was 25 to 35 percent. By way of comparison, the U.S. percentage is well over 50.”

I’d say something smells rotten in Africa, but the smell is emanating from Western AIDS ACTIVISTS.

Given your continual need to cover up how the fast-track gay lifestyle is one of the main causes AIDS, I’m starting to think you delicate geniuses have been dispatched by the Log Cabin “Republicans.” Is this true? Fess up now.

I doubt if many people truly believes that there’s anything good about same-sex “marriage”. Maybe some brainwashed teenagers who want to be fashionable. But any adult who supports same-sex “marriage” hates our culture, our freedom, and our civilization.

"Southern Decadence", also known as "Gay Mardis Gras" has a Gustav update link on their page. Can't they move their venue to an island somewhere or something? I'm not saying they attract hurricanes, but... Okay, they attract hurricanes.

The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet." (Nahum 1:3)

[response to a story that whites will be in the minority in the U.S. by 2042]

By 2042, race will not be a big good and all races will have assimilated except for the unproductive black class. But they are intermarrying Whites at an increasing rate.

The fact remains that the Theory of Evolution remains the defacto explanation of how living things got to their present state in the absence of God. Anyone who pursues a degree in the biological sciences will have to endure the bilge and swill of this Theory. It is quite possible you won't get a passing grade or your thesis denied if you don't regurgitate the barking assumption of Evolutionary Theory. It isn't going to go away.

There is no proof that humans evolved from an ape-like ancestor, only speculation, assumption, and an imaginative arrangement of bones and fossils in a pathetic attempt to establish a line of descent. That's the best an unbeliever can do, and unbelievers cling to this explanation for dear life.

A wise parent will teach their children beforehand about the Theory of Evolution so as to be prepared for the battle ahead, a war over heart, mind, and soul.

Without belief in God there really isn't any other way to explain how molecules arranged themselves into plankton and on to parakeets. As a parent I know I'll teach my child "what they sadly believe" and justly ridicule such foolish thinking, for the fool hath said in his heart there is no God.

A person strong in their faith need not fear the fairy tales of abiogenesis and Darwin's drivel. The student need only know "this is what the unbeliever believes in" and continue to do good science ignoring the bogus Theory but prepared to give an answer for the hope the believer has, and especially why one believes in God instead of not believing.

The time is soon coming to an end when one can sit on the fence dallying on whether to choose Christ or not. Choose today whom you will serve.

If the evos insist on using force to brainwash our children, then that leaves the our side no choice but to wage an all out political war against them. None of this namby-pambi stuff we’ve seen so far...I mean an unrelenting, in-your-face political battle to crush the jackbooted evos and their Commie-ACLU minions once and for all.