A former morgue worker admitted to having sex with up to 100 dead women, some of whom were murder victims, during his time on the night shift in Ohio between 1976 and 1992. The disturbing crimes were revealed in a deposition video, with further details coming to light in a recent Federal lawsuit against the county.
They're dead. What's the big deal? It's not like he dug them up, sexually assaulted(?) them and stole whatever was in the coffin or went on a murdering spree just to have sex with the cold stiff bodies.
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“They're dead. What's the big deal?”
The ‘big deal’ is that we kind of give people ownership of their remains post-mortem.
We TEND to need their consent, while they’re alive, to donate their body to science.
Or to donate organs.
Or to have sex.
In fact, wills are their consent to how their earthly goods are distributed when they’re no longer using them.
So,yeah, ‘dead’ is not the end of their control.
"It's not like he dug them up,”
So, what do you see as the difference in digging them up and pre-burial sex? The time? The effort? Trespassing?
"sexually assaulted(?) them and stole whatever was in the coffin”
No, he 'just’ raped corpses.
“or went on a murdering spree just to have sex with the cold stiff bodies.”
I think you’re missing the entire point of everyone’s objection by comparing it to much more offensive scenarios.
not like he […] sexually assaulted(?) them
Uhm, that’s pretty much exactly it. Raping a corpse is still rape, as a corpse cannot consent anymore. That, and it’s unhygenic and just disgusting.
Sure, they’re dead bodies but they used to belong to human beings entitled to their dignity, and using these cadavers as mere sex toys violates these. I mean, funerals and respect for the dead are universal among humans, to the point that even brutal battlefield see belligerants respecting each other’s graves.
I'M BAAAAAACK!
It's been a LOOOOOOONG time since I was here.
I wanted to wait until after the midterms because I feared that things might get doomy with some, here.
Not that the Bluenami has finally come, I'm coming back.
Anyway, about this weirdo in the original post...
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
Well, if someone were to leave a recently-written (or recently-updated) will saying that it’s okay for anyone to sexually use their corpse, then a lot of reasonable people would argue that meets the standard for consent. But there’s no way for a morgue worker to know that, in the unlikely chance this occurred. Of course there are equally reasonable others who would disagree.
Even in that case, there’s a few problems. Wills aren’t 100% legally binding; they can be challenged in court, and they can’t be used to force someone else to do anything they don’t want to. Corpses are considered to be property of their next of kin, and in principle the owner(s) can veto someone else doing anything to the corpse (because they can’t be forced to allow others to make use of their property, in most cases), regardless of what the will says. Pretty much everywhere has laws dictating the limits of what you can do with the corpse and how it can be disposed of, and I would be surprised if very many places had a loophole which allowed necrophilia, because that’s one of the issues which caused corpse-treatment laws to exist in the first place. So regardless of the ethics involved with pre-death consent, legal issues make that moot.
(I will point that common disgust should not be a sufficient reason to ban anything, and shouldn’t be considered unless there are a preponderance of other reasons which aren’t enough on their own, which is why I didn’t include that.)
Other than the potential health hazards and bad taste, justice here isn't "kink shaming", obviously. The company has a contract with customers and its own reputation is affected by such an employee's act, betraying the company as well as the customer trust. Customers may also have their superstitions, but there then also are laws against desecration of the dead and tombs, robbing, etc. There is property involved but also ethics and thus, laws.
If you fancy your post-mortem fantasies and porn, it's a different matter for someone to "play dead" for a sex game or film, without betrayal or theft involved, just like killings in fiction action films are not actual murders.
If you can find all the evidence that the person dedicated their body to sex after death (incel sacrifice to other incels??), it might be another matter for ethical and legal analysis, but...
They're dead. What's the big deal? It's not like he dug them up, sexually assaulted(?) them and stole whatever was in the coffin or went on a murdering spree just to have sex with the cold stiff bodies.
Ok, so when you die why don’t we take your naked corpse and display it on Times Square? Let everybody get a good look at everything. We’ll make sure to highlight any areas you’re embarrassed by. I mean, like you said, you’ll be dead, you won’t care, right?
Im guessing if you were able to see this response to your comment that you wouldn’t like the idea of this happening. Lots of people do care what happens to their corpse even though they won’t technically be around to express an opinion anymore. That’s why so many people leave instructions to spread their ashes or bury them somewhere specific. The whole ‘who cares, they’re dead’ argument falls apart pretty quickly once people take, like, 0.1 seconds to think about it.
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