@Niam2020 #192709
Somehow that makes it a thousand times more disturbing and I am already deeply disturbed by it. Kink is fine by me so long as the enjoyment is mutual if I gave off the impression I was kink-shaming, even rape-themed porn and roleplay. It’s lionizing a predator: portraying his acts as deserved and the brainwashing as good for his victims now that they’re arguably better people for having their identities destroyed and rebuilt into fawning “willing” slaves that pointedly become much more heroic than their master that fills me with disgust. It’s a moral issue for me, not a sexual one, simply sexualizing acts of revenge and having a truly evil protagonist is one thing but it goes further and tries to make the reasoning behind it not just normal for a man as opposed to coming from a broken mind but even morally acceptable in the circumstance. That’s where it crosses the line from “not my thing” to “I genuinely hate that this exists.” Not sure if I can better explain it.
… That said about my acceptence of kink scatplay is probably the one thing I’ll knock before I try. That’s some people’s thing. Definitely not mine.
Edit: Okay I have no idea why I’m so hung up on explaining myself other than feeling like I did an inadequate job but if you’ll allow a comparison there’s another work called The Hero Who Seeks Revenge Shall Exterminate With Darkness (or something pretentious like that) with a similar premise and it’s fair share of sexualized torture (and a couple targets of his revenge expecting a sexual component he notably and pointedly averts which I think was making a statement) but the main difference for me is that it does not portray the protagonist Raul Evans as sympathetic. He’s another symptom of a profoundly screwed up world and what he’s doing does not have a positive effect left in his wake that implicitly justifies his actions. Removing evil people does not topple the institutional evils of the kingdom or the ignorance that allows these institutions free reign. There’s a demented concentration of people who are evil beyond all reason and sense but he’s only interested in those who wronged him personally and even works amicably with the evil king knowing full well he’s just saving his own hide serving his various minions up on a plate including his own twisted daughter and preserving his legacy by publicly shaming her and telling her he has another heir that survived the killing spree her abhorrent admirer went on to make sure she got the throne. I’d go as far as concluding the world setting is nihilistic nonsense where halfway decent people simply cannot exist and any attempt at being one is swiftly punished by the universe. Despite or maybe because of this relentless awfulness there’s no divine providence implying karmic approval, the goddess of the setting that revived him and gave him the ability to enact his revenge did so not for the sake of righting a balance but explicitly because she’s hopelessly obsessed with him in the most toxic way and far from trying to romanticize the situation it’s made as clear as possible her obsession and his abuse of her are horrifying and depraved. I read as far into the story as the part where Raul arranges his own death at the hands of the surviving sister of the demon lord he killed in his hero days (she felt her revenge was empty, knowing it solved nothing and that it risked the newly won safety of a group of her enslaved people Raul had a hand freeing again reinforcing that this is not a story about vindication or justice and it was explicitly discussed between the two that they both know the only way her people survive was to abandon pointless retribution and instead focus on constructing a safe haven) so he can follow his victims to hell and keep torturing them there. The ruler of hell more or less calls him a petty dirtbag with an overblown ego who would just be another damned soul not worth his personal attention if not for the presumption that just because he could manipulate a goddess he could muscle in on the natural order of the afterlife. So he just obliterates the souls to rob Raul of the satisfaction. And that’s about as far as I got. It was not my cup of tea, but it does not inspire the seething hatred I have for Redo of Healer.
Redo of Healer, for as little as I could stomach, did not have these nuances that remind the reader that even if they can take satisfaction in horrible things happening to horrible people they should not want to envy or excuse the villain protagonist. Redo of Healer goes the opposite direction and emphasizes “it’s fine, these people are simply much more evil so it doesn’t matter” and shows the aftermath of his actions to be downright positive, like the proper solution to all the evil in the world was to let him run wild. The brainwashed devotion of his victims and their growth into better, more heroic people after rewriting their memories and personalities is portrayed in romantic light. It might have been setting it all up for a fall into ruin I don’t know I couldn’t take any more of it but what I did digest seemed to be going as far as to imply what he was doing was collecting his rightful due after the rug got pulled out from under him in his first life.
Something purely pornographic in contrast doesn’t make mitigating moral implications in revenge and noncon stories, even when victims are turned to their rapist’s side it’s usually portrayed more along the lines of being mentally broken or having pre-existing feelings that were severely warped by the experience rather than “romantic” and certainly not morally justified in the end. The response elicited is supposed to be an exhilaration at the thought of a taboo, or of an exertion of dominating power. Not vindication. Not a sense that what happened would be a good thing if it happened outside of a fantasy context. Again it’s all in the difficult to describe nuances. With Redo of Healer I had a horrific underlying sense that someone was trying to make a case for their own genuinely held world view more than just appealing to the libido.