Baptists are the true group of Christians, originating from the ministry of Jesus Christ, where we are to baptize all believers who put their faith upon Him. Baptists believe that baptism as it is biblically understood is a symbolic act that recreates the burial and resurrection of Christ, and being buried and raised again from sin by immersion only. Baptism should only be done by those who confess that Jesus is Lord and are of at least the age of accountability and can repent of their sins and understand right from wrong. Baptists also believe in the Lord's Supper as an ordinance remembering Christ's death until He come and that this is also a symbolic memorial. True Baptists affirm the Trinity, salvation by faith alone, the King James Version of the Bible being the only valid English translation, and works not being a part of salvation.
Baptists are the original Christians, entirely separate from the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthdoxy, and Protestantism. Many Baptist groups exist, but the one truest to Christ's teachings is the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement
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Every Christian cult claims to be "the true Christians". Which means that it's always false. The KJV is not considered to be the best translation by scholars either, so KJV fundamentalism is also an identity statement. It has also resulted in English specific doctrinal corruption. How can "Baptists be the original Christians" if the movement is only from the 1600s and Christianity goes back to more than a thousand years? Restorationism is a doctrine that has no access to what "original Christianity" really was, it only fabricates a narrative. Then since before Christianity there were other religions, it too is just a human movement. And ignorance and counter-culture doctrines that involve pseudohistory and creationism are evidence for the lack of "divine insight". And evidence that it's an industry and culture of control and exploitation.
But let some people come along and want to put a Satanic pentagram on a school, and all of a sudden, you’re all one denomination, right?
Ah yes, the "True Faith" going back to... well, not Jesus. That's John Smythe, who founded that particular branch or Protestant faith in 1609.
And you may fell extraordinary
Something has a hold of you
You get this feeling of great fervor
It's delusional malarkey.
I don't care if you're aware
Of your sect's real history
Again and again we've seen too much
Of these lies and stupid nonsense.
Haah, just a fan of New Order. But yeah, that's the sorta Jack Chick claim that the Baptists were somehow hiding for about a millenia before coming out of the religious closet when the Protestants started their break from Catholicism. Which, of course has no basis in history.
There's what, maybe 45,000 Christian denominations worldwide? And I'll bet any amount they all claim to be "the true group of Christians, originating from the ministry of Jesus Christ". What incredible hubris!
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…and as @Sasha states, there’s so many denominations of Christianity. Baptists too. From that which Jimmy Carter is part of, to the Snake Handlers.
And I bet it’s not only the latter who would call you heretics for not taking that KJV of yours more than literally re. ‘They shall take up serpents’, OP.
As well as Steven Arse. Quite the small denomination yours is, eh…?!
…and just another in so many thousands. And so many that regard you as wrong .
As for Southern Baptist Jimmy Carter, he spent his time not arsing around as you do, but doing something practical, nay, Christian : building affordable homes until he was too old to continue. He would quote to you from your KJV James 2:17:
‘Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead , being alone’
And that’s all you two are: Alone.
@Bastethotep #203381
Right! Not only that but also a king who only liked fucking very young women and enjoyed killing his wives… wait, I think we might have it figured out…
Not exactly as Christ-like as they would like to be when someone actually sits and thinks for 30 seconds, but from what I’ve seen of some Baptist groups they don’t encourage their members to do that.
@TheKingOfRhye #203390
Or let just one devout Muslim or Jewish student appear. Or, hell, in lots of cases even any student of color, regardless of religion.
I understand Baptists thinking themselves the original edition of Christians is linked to the existence of John the Baptist . Even though he was technically a Jew (just because he’s depicted as seeing himself subordinate to Jesus doesn’t suddenly mean he flatly worshiped him!).
Meanwhile, what would it take for a future translation to be deemed by them an improvement on the KJV? It’s not the first one (Tyndale and Douay-Rheims predate it, and I doubt El would let England’s predominant Catholicism obstruct his care, at least with Isaiah’s Justice > Glory conceit in mind), and I don’t remember anyone contemporary trumpeting it as insuperable. Wonder which French, Spanish, Chinese, etc. translations they give their blessing to?
“Baptists believe that baptism as it is biblically understood is a symbolic act that recreates the burial and resurrection of Christ,.”
Odd, then, that y’all didn’t even have a bible until the process that created the Catholic Church produced one…
I mean, if it’s so central to your identity and your dogma, why wasn’t there a reference for it before there was a Bible?
I mean, for Nuclear Power in the Navy, they have some impressive and tyrannical rules for handling nuclear materials and nuclear waste, and they can be traced back to the first nuclear vessels and the mistakes THEY made. Like OSHA< every rule is written in blood. But we don’t try to claim that the rules for ALARA or TDS go back BEFORE nuclear power was even invented, much less industrialized.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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