( tymps )
One of the most iconic lesbian characters on TV, Shane from The L Word, was paired with a TIM in the recent revival series. It was stomach-churning, and I quit watching the show as soon as I saw what they were setting up. His character was supposedly an actual woman and was never acknowledged as trans on the show (as far as I know anyway), but it was frankly impossible to buy that. It genuinely made me so fucking angry. It's "just" a TV show, sure, but it's still sickening, and it was just maddening to know that something like this was happening and they faced no real backlash for their disgusting lesbophobia.
Were there the slightest chance that this one might be reading this, I’d ask her to re-read what she just said.
She… wound herself up into a rage over a fictional character entering a relationship with another fictional character who isn’t even said to be trans, but is merely played by a transgender actress.
And that is somehow “maddening,” “disgusting lesbophobia,” “stomach-churning,” and deserves “real backlash.”
Hun, do you hear yourself? Do you realize just how deranged this is to the rest of us?
Anyway, this is example no. 1344134524 of how these Ovarites and the gender-critical movement in general are people in dire need of therapy, and that’s really the kindest thing I can say about them.
( mathlover )
But lesbians don't want anyone who was born with a penis, even if he has it made into a fauxgina. […] A woman who is fine with a man with gynecomastia and a surgical front-hole is not a lesbian.
Funny how it’s just fine to use such “awful, dehumanizing” terms when they’re talking about trans people, but they scream bloody murder if anyone else so much as dares mention a term meant to be trans-inclusive.
( befana )
The answer is simple: if you are attracted to a penis you are not lesbian. If a woman living a lesbian life suddenly pairs with a TIM she is clearly not lesbian but bisexual. And if she insists her TIM-partner is a lesbian and puts pressure on others in her lesbian community to accept this she is guilty of erasure of lesbians, lesbian culture, lesbian spaces etc. A woman claiming to be lesbian and partnering with a TIM clearly is my worst nightmare as a lesbian.
And there it is. The movement of “we just want to be left alone,” and of “stop imposing your labels and standards upon us,” and of “we get to determine the terms that refer to us!”.
Turns out it’s just a load of bollocks, eh?
But that doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone who’s been paying attention to what the gender-critters actually do, and the things they say beyond just surface-level platitudes for the uninitiated.
This is who they are, once they get in deep enough down the rabbit hole. The sort of things they said right here in this thread.
“Non-conformists” who police identity and enforce conformity to ridiculous levels, then have the gall to tell us that we’re the ones doing it, and to tell us “why can’t you just be non-conforming?”
“Gender abolitionists” who actually proudly reinforce gender norms, and want to set them in stone because it’s supposed to “protect women”.
“Radical feminists” who claim to follow in the footsteps of “generations of women who have fought hard for their rights,” yet have returned to the same old biological essentialism and determinism that those foremothers of theirs had actually fought hard against.
“Leftist revolutionaries” who find that the only people who share their views are conservatives and the far right, and it doesn’t even make them pause. No, nothing could be wrong with that picture, instead it must be that the most dedicated foot soldiers of the patriarchy are somehow the only ones sane enough to see the truth™ and protect women’s rights!
“Protectors of women and children” whose idea of protection all too often includes harassing not only those who disagree with them, but often also hounding women who are gender-nonconforming out of women’s spaces, because of course GCs can “always tell” who’s trans, lol. And this is mighty ironic considering how many GCs are themselves gender-nonconforming in appearance.
Oh, and their idea of “protecting kids” involves invasive questioning and control over said kids, not allowing them the right to privacy if they e.g. wish to socially transition in school. And if the poor child is foolish enough to mention thinking they’re trans to a gender-critical parent, out comes the full brunt of abuse, and subjecting the kid to conversion therapy!
You so-called 'gender criticals’… your entire movement is a cruel mockery and perversion of what those “generations of women before you” have fought for. You want an image of the greatest handmaidens of the patriarchy? Go to your bathroom and look in the mirror.
For you are the greatest gift and victory the actual reactionaries could have ever hoped for: actual borderline conservatism cloaked in the trappings of feminism. No wonder they love you so much and adopt your language; you enable them to paint themselves as defenders of women’s rights, even as they take away all of those rights right under your noses.
But hey… who even needs the right to have an abortion, when you can instead have, say, the far more important performative assurance that the hordes of scary men in dresses that are allegedly just waiting outside to jump on you will be banned from doing what they’re already not actually allowed to do?
Don’t listen to me, though. Don’t let me stop you from cheering on the good ol’ boys parroting “Adult Human Female!” and similar thought-terminating slogans of yours as they rob you of your bodily autonomy and your freedom to choose your own gendered expression or lack thereof. Nah, you won’t need those. Don’t you worry, everything will be fine, and they’ll keep the dreaded hairy caveman in a dress away from you. Maybe.