( dragonheart )
What is the ideal endgame for you concerning gender ideology?
Obviously, all of us here are against this ideology in one way or another but I wonder what would be the ideal outcome for all of us?

Personally speaking, the biggest one for me is seeing women's same-sex spaces and sports legally protected from men/TIMs period. No exceptions.

Women should also have a right to gather for whatever reason and legally be able to exclude TIMs.

If TIMs and pickmeisha's want to create their own spaces and sport leagues, they are welcome to it and I have nothing against it.

I also don't think that anyone under 18 should be able to medically transition - it's irreversible damage that can never be undone should they regret it - so that should also be illegal. They don't allow children to get tattoos so how is it they're allowed to be irreversibly mutilated under surgery?!

Consenting adults can do what they like with their bodies, even if I don't agree with it.

( sensusquaeram )
Everything already said here about women's sex-based protections and gender abolition.

I'd go further though -- all "trans" procedures should be abolished, with robust evidence-based medical and mental health care in place for those already "transed" as well as destransers/desistors.

Reasoning: affirmative psychological and medical procedures are not civil rights or liberties, they are dangerous experimental procedures. Challenges to the Dutch Protocol and emerging evidence reveal they do not improve mental health, physical health, or quality-of-life measures long term. (If they did reliably improve those measures long term, and if "gender dysphoria" were a discreet condition, we'd be seeing very different emerging evidence.)

It's a medical misadventure based on shaky evidence from a questionable discipline (sexology) with a fraught history and advanced by activism, not need. It's not treatment -- it's mistreatment. Medicine and psychology need to do better.

( Ellexoh )
The endgame for me personally would be getting my grandson (who thinks he's a girl) to speak with me again, to realise he lost a good thing when he prioritised an ideology over his family.

The endgame will never happen as a whole. The ideology has to be chipped away at by individuals, by parents, by sensible lawmakers, by strong women. Men can't be us.