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Ben Stein #fundie

We believe that Darwinism is the real Orthodox Church

Wha?

Darwinism asks you to believe in things unseen that are incredibly unlikely.

Science doesn't want you to believe in imaginary beings, no. That's projecting your own beliefs for a false equivalence.

Darwinism asks us to believe that out of pure random chance, we got a cell that is as complicated as a Boeing 777. [... More firehosing of classic bullshit to deceive...]

That's the straw man you are making up that you wish people adopt as belief against the discoveries of science that question the dogma that humans are the goal and center of the universe. To deny reality, maintain and promote your fantasies. Let's hope the church doesn't get to persecute knowledge and education again. Fortunately, many religious today accept the fact that evolution is the best explanation for the diversity of life.

one day there was nothing but mud and ooze, and the next day there was life, and very soon after there was intelligent life.

Confusing the big bang, abiogenesis and evolution together. And you want me to believe that there's a magic intelligent supernatural being out there that comes from nothing and was always there, bored.

it is sort of innate in mankind to believe that there is a God, a heavenly Father

No. The fear and denial of death and fantasies of the divine and afterlife, perhaps. Before Abrahamic monotheism there was polytheism, the oldest apparent religious artefacts appear to be fertility goddesses. Some of the oldest religions also have divine couples. A patriarchal sky daddy is not univeral and you have no evidence of its existence.

we're asking you to just follow the consequences of that and see if possibly there could be some scientific validity to that.

Since science, instead of dictating dogma for ideological reasons, adapts its models to study and understand the world, it's indeed been very successful. The evidence is overwhelming. Maybe that's why you need a constant firehose of denial to fight it, so that you can manipulate the gullible once again.

I too was lied to as a kid, by the cult I was raised in. If religion didn't have to be about deception, perhaps that it would be more reputable. You're not helping your case. When other arguments are made to posit allegedly superior ethics, it's difficult to accept in the face of evidence of unethical promotion of falsehoods.

Finally, a good starting point about the overwhelming evidence of descent with modification and natural selection. Really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent

PoliticalAloha #conspiracy

The irony of a delusional who believes and promotes every lie out there while claiming that normal people believe everything they're told. It must be a good business model if everybody really swallows your interference disinformation. It's more plausible that you're part of a conspiracy, crackpot. And there's been mounting evidence for it since.

David Mathews #fundie

“Hello Atheists,”
Now i want to make a parody of Hello Kitty…

“I am inclined to tolerate you people”
You know, as an American, I would tend to think that was automatic. The bill of rights kinda says we have to tolerate ‘you people.’ Is it a choice where you’re from?

“ and must say that atheism is not inherently offensive to me.”
I could give a fuck. I’m not an atheist to satisfy anyone, nor to piss anyone off. It just seems likely to be the most accurate stance.
WHY my stance is any of your business, I don’t know.

Bennett Lee Ross #conspiracy

So there never were real wars and terrorists are really just Santa Claus, just a TV show for Ross' entertainment. There actually are psychiatric disorders where reality seems to be a show and where everything seems to be about targetting you...

icxn #fundie

“Where does it say that death is evil, especially in light of the fact that it opens the door to the experience of Paradise?”
So, all those times in the bible where God is mad at people, you think he’s REWARDING them when he kills them?
The ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD was drowned to the last man, woman, child, infant, fetus, and blastocyst, save 8, was that meant to be a GOOD thing? ‘Congrats, you’re wicked! You get to go to paradise!’
It seems a reasonable conclusion that death is a badly thing.

Declan Finn #wingnut #psycho

Look at the history of appeasing tyrants. It never turns out well.

kevinmiller #fundie

“-It causes the wife to not rely on the husband like she should.”
Quite the opposite. When her job is extra taxing, she must rely on me to ensure things happen. Kids picked up, dinner made, laundry done. It’s our marriage and OUR responsibilities and we both support the other. You have a cartoon view of marriage.

“She is making her own money and she also is more likely to take control of the finances or spend money without her husband's blessings.”
Yes! I mean, thank gawd! She was a grownup when we met. Quite capable of handling the finances. That was a good thing when the Navy sent me to sea for four months at a time on the subs. I gave her my pay and she did everything. And we had a joint checking account for one year. Hated it. We both like spending our own money as necessary. Works out a lot better this way. There are the bills she pays and the bills I pay.

“I have seen this first-hand.”
You just haven’t explain why it’s a problem…?

“-God also describes the virtous woman as a keeper at home. God outlines a woman's responsibilities and none of them include jobs outside the home.”
As Nietzsche said, the fear of God is dead.

“She works yes, but within the home and under the leadership of her own husband.”
Sounds like my mother in law. She was totally unprepared for her husband to die. Fucked up a lot of things including the finances of her kids on into adulthood.

“A woman who works outside the home is not only under her husband's authority but also under the authority of the person that she works for. The husband is the "head of the wife."”
Just a little sexist.
How does this make her having a job unvirtuous?

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

“Who / Despite my reading / Despite my listening / Despite my celebrating /

Despite me”
THat’s the real issue, isn’t it? You.

Your daughter has an opinion she did not get from you.
And she holds it more important than she holds your limited view.
Really sticks in your craw that you raised an adult, not a Kewpie Doll.
So it must be a cult, not your ignorance.
It must be brainwashing, not you being a hard-headed cunt.
It must be predatory, not a rescue.
She’s a victim, but not as much as YOU are victimized by this.

And you carefully curate your reading to ensure you’re the victim here, and hang out where your pleas are heard.

If she’s in a cult, you’re fossilizing.

Declan Finn #wingnut #psycho

“So, looking at it as a historian … screw Eastern Europe.”
History, huh?
Historically, when the USSR fell, they left nukes in Ukraine.
We historically promised to protect their borders if they’d give up their nukes.
They gave up their nukes.
Their borders are being violated.
Some of us remember that historical promise from history. I mean, like, within living memory.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

Mark Dice #racist #crackpot

There are so many who are just one paycheque away from homelessness. There are certain people on welfare.

Just ask those certain white people, OP.

Pray you don’t become just another statistic in these financially fragile times: certainly having to live in economically interesting ones.

Donald J. Trump #conspiracy #wingnut

We are now the only Country in the World that uses Mail-In Voting. All others gave it up

Even if this were true, I thought your ~~bizarre and outdated~~ Exceptional and Traditional electoral process is part of America's and its Republic's Greatness, and the very idea that any other nation could possibly have laws worth emulating blasphemy?

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

Declan Finn #wingnut #psycho

Russians are fighting because they’re ordered to. Ukrainians are fighting because they have to.

It was a similar situation decades ago, ending with one last helicopter taking off from the roof of a certain country’s embassy. Since then, US and Vietnam have full diplomatic relations and trade which includes heavy investment from a US company that is a member of the Trillion Dollar Company Club, NVidia. Even US veterans of the Vietnam War can visit that country with no ill will from the people there.

So what good is coming from what is now basically the 21st Century Vietnam: And not just for Putain, Feckless Din…?!

There was once fighting between Germans & French: last century. In this one you’ll see Leopard II & Leclerc tanks side by side.

America & Vietnam now allies: that’s the difference.

Tomi Lahren #wingnut

Such a man of peace, sending out state paramilitaries to enforce his agenda of ethnic cleansing and appointed someone kicked out of the military for being a psycho to promote “warrior culture”…

Declan Finn #wingnut #psycho

They want to fight

No, they don’t. That’s the entire point. What they WANT is for Russia to stop slaughtering them.

Donald J. Trump #conspiracy #wingnut

Countries that have postal voting include the U.K., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Iceland, France, Spain, Greece, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Switzerland, India and Pakistan, among others.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

Quotee does all that every day, and it’s the offspring who’s in a cult?

Incidentally, poem ends with:

“And I am not one step closer
To working out how
To say a word, a sentence
To having him back.

Not one step closer.

Every day.”

I suppose the obvious answer would just be too much?

(BTW I didn’t submit this)

Elena Danaan #ufo #magick #elitist #conspiracy

The Galactic Federation of Worlds is real, and this has been proven.

Please provide.

Claiming “I was abducted by aliens as a child”, even if it were true, is not proof.

Flat Earth Society #conspiracy

The USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace

And you've been in a cavern repeating your delusions since.

"Take my holy firmament bowl and smoke it!"

Ann Barnhardt #homophobia #sexist #transphobia

Tom DiFerdinando #quack #conspiracy

@PLMMJ #233399

Looking at Internet Archive captures, the linked page has been in its current form since at least April 2022.

As for DiFerdinando, he's been the current president since at least December 2021, although the site's listing of board members wasn't updated to reflect that until sometime in 2022, with David Crowe listed as president until then (despite the site having posted an obituary for him that says he passed away in July 2020). The list of board members has each name link to a contact form for that person, but the links attached to DiFerdinando and Raúl Ehrichs de Palma (the current vice president) go to the contact form for Crowe.

Donald J. Trump #conspiracy #wingnut

We are now the only Country in the World that uses Mail-In Voting.

This is what Vlad Putin told him. Note: Russia has done mail-in voting since 2020.

Edward Menez #crackpot #racist #pratt #conspiracy

Why would we be lied to about this?

At the epoch, it wasn't necessarily a lie, incredible ignorance of the natural world was prevalent, it can be forgiven. Experts consider that the creation myths were allegorical and never meant to be read literally, even back then.

But today, really? It is always difficult to distinguish alienated victims from malicious manipulative bad actors who want to manipulate them. Intellectual dishonesty, failing to put ancient scripture in context, attempting instead to twist them against knowledge. Claiming that metaphoric myth should be misinterpretted as science and history? Come on.

[... Firehose of straw men against overwhelming evidence that humans are not the center of the universe, twisted as straw men of science ...]

This is so much evidence of deception that a conspiracy must be at work.
Oooohhh... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy

Satan's greatest deception

How ironic. Are you doing the LORD's work, or... who's the father of lies? This even throws in SARS-CoV-2 denial and vaccination fear mongering for effect.

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David J. Stewart #fundie

"Yea, the Scientism death cult is obviously ATHEIST bullshit, with its Agile Creation, Unspecified Intricacy, Decomposable Complication, Out-of-Tune Plane, Off-Pitch Ecosystem, False Divine Note, Unregulated Pitch World and Antipasto Golem of the Gaps. You should really read Of Fleas and People."

Kathyp #fundie

In case pointing at the bad English was seen as attacking the messenger, it may be best to point at the irrationality of rr-bb millenarists. In case this was perceived as an attack by association, anybody can click to witness the overwhelming evidence.

Of course, faith was never intended to be rational, especially when a main concern is the fear and denial of death. But there are cases where it outright conflicts with reality at all levels and can even be involved in political extremism. And exploitative cults promoting and weaponizing alienation...

https://fstdt.com/?domain=rr-bb.com

Mark Dice #racist #crackpot

Oh for fucks sakes, that’s exactly the same goddamn bullshit slavers use to excuse their system of slavery, that it was somehow a benefit for the people kidnapped and forced into hard labor for life… and their kids also being forced into hard labor as well… You are not being original nor are you hiding your clear racist mindset.

But what can I expect of a video where the host are trying to sell fucking alligator alcatraz t-shirts.

Black people living in America today should be thankful for slavery.

Remember, dying would be better than the torture than what the average slave got at the time. Constant whippings, no education, no free time.

ikester7579 #fundie

“When adding evolution to God's creation, there are some things that need to be considered.”
Meh. I don’t believe in any gods, i don’t believe reality is a creation. Evolution, on the other hand, is a science with evidence for it.
But other than discounting your complete premise, do go on.

“1) If evolution goes so well with God, why did Darwin have to recant his faith in order to write his theory?"
Nothing to do with his theory. He couldn’t justify a powerful, benevolent god with all the pain and suffering he saw in the world.

“Can we do something the originator of evolution could not?”
Easily. High school students know more about DNA than Darwin ever did.

“2) If evolution goes so well with God, then it should be used to bring people closer to God. And there should not be people losing their faith due to believing it.”
Anyone who loses their faith due to accepting science was already intent on losing their faith. Science is neutral on the supernatural.

“3) Evolution should be used as a salvation tool, if it works so well with God.”
I don’t believe in salvation, either. Do wahtever you want with that bullshit.

“The preaching of it alone should draw people to the front of the church to get saved. But is this what we see?”
Ah. If science were accurate, it would fit into my superstition. If it doesn’t, it’s the science that’s wrong?
I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith, here.

“4) Evolutionists argue that evolution is not a religion.”
Only because it doesn’t meet any rational definition of a religion.

“But yet will accept someone who mixes both as one of their own.”
If they understand the science, they can also believe in any superstition they want. Sure.

“And will defend them in debates as well. Can a non-religous subject be combined with a religous one and work without turning the non-religous one into religion?”
Are there any electric lights in your church? They’re not in the bible.

“5) Evolution and God working together should not promote God hate sites like FSTDT.com”
Evolution doesn’t drive FSTDT. And we don’t hate god. Some of us are believers.
We DO dislike idiots. If you feel persecuted by FSTDT, you might want to get a beta reader for your posts.

Robin Schumacher #fundie

You don't need to be anti-religion to witness the fact that a strain is obviously used to enforce ignorance, exploitation and corruption. Even instituting forms of slavery. And trying to take over as the government, something the Constitution was carefully crafted to prevent. There is religion and there is political extemism that even wants to persecute other forms of religion, even in its own current. A crowd harassing an event they are not invited at may be another clue.

Then you're a liar, you claim that you cannot whine, when that's exactly what your business is about. Who's the great calumniator, hypocrite? Instead of fighting knowledge like biology, you could be part of the scientific process and publish your concerns and discoveries in the prestigious peer reviewed biology journals. Not being able to do it is not silencing you, just that you're not doing science and that your arguments against it are invalid.

For the same reason, most scientists don't care about letting you pretend that you can debate on an equal level with them, when it's only an illusion for your ignorant crowd to affirm your own conclusions. You don't get to understand how evolution works in a short public debate. Those are fake debates, to present a false equivalence between evidence based established knowledge and reality denial with a firehose of fallacious reactionary arguments, appealing to false authorities.

Science is not about the opinions of people or scientists, it's about knowledge discovery while mitigating human fallacies as part of its process. The double standard really exists. It's universal and people of every origin and great religion participate. And agnostic and atheists. It does not matter. If the ability to reason was stolen from you, the mountain may be very hard to climb, though.

If you really appreciate the scientific method and the evidence for descent with modification and natural selection, it's fascinating. There is no valid substitute in philosophy. That's likely part of your problem, if you're concerned more with control than with enlightenment. Many religious people are fine with incredible knowledge of the natural world anyway. Science is not your atheist straw man, but its requirements are methodological naturalism and intellectual honesty.

Herman Cain’s Twitter account #wingnut #pratt

various commenters #wingnut #racist

For fucks sakes, the idea of what is define as “americans” to you fuckers changed constantly throughout the centuries, like for instance having any Irish blood in you made you not American to certain elements of the population and no doubt it will return to that if you assholes ever get your way, because your society needs a group of people to blame for all of societies’ ills since it stubbornly refuses to accept or acknowledge fault in anything whatsoever.

Jacob Harrison #fundie

Herman Cain’s Twitter account #wingnut #pratt

Interesting how they hypocritically claim to be religious but will gladly desecrate remains, defame obituaries, lie, etc. And prevent access to emergency care when hospitals are full, with no remorse or attempt to flatten the curve. And pretend that caring is persecution.

various commenters #wingnut #racist

You know, Hispanic people should maybe get together and design a community / solidarity flag. Not all Hispanic people have their roots in Mexico, so it seems a bit exclusive, and more to the point, most of them waving it around on US soil are American or want to become American. And also, this isn’t in any way about the US attacking Mexico (that I’m aware of, even if Mexico might not like all those people being dumped across the border). As a White person, I admittedly have no say in it or any direct skin in the game, and I’m aware that even suggesting it might sound patronizing, but if it isn’t… suggestion.

On the other hand, waving a Palestinian flag to show support to Palestine doesn’t present the same kind of issue, because the nation of Palestine itself is under attack. And people are still allowed to protest US government policy.

Christian News Network #fundie #racist

Stupid Nazi. The anti-racist movement is neither exclusively black nor Santeria. Assuming that it was Vodun, their magic is like yours, based on superstition and tradition.

What about the fact that for your hate speech you try to summon dead, non-existing entities? That's why you assume that other people also do it, I suppose.

Roger Marks #fundie #homophobia

Will you be delivered of your hate, be judged like you have judged? You hypocritically claim that you're waiting for Jesus but you're judging people instead, what he told you not to do. Your god is not a god of love, obviously, if he created people to deceive them and ultimately make them suffer for eternity. If what he wants is firewood, there's wood. What about the fact that Jesus' disciples believed it would happen during their lifetime?

Suzanne Bowdey #fundie #wingnut #transphobia

Tomi Lahren #wingnut

Donald J. Trump #conspiracy #wingnut

My ENTIRE military career, I voted by mail-in ballots you unAmerican, election-stealing, Constitution ignoring FUCKING MORON!

Ann Barnhardt #homophobia #sexist #transphobia

“Cheerleaders started out as men with megaphones that… wait for it… LED CHEERS”
Awwwww, did the world move on without your permission, sweetie?

Isn’t that Mr. Phelps’ motivation to turn evil in Mission Impossible 1?
That’ll be a great ‘villain origin story’ in the penitentiary.
What turned you?
Gay cheerleaders in the NFL.
Yeah, that’ll. Wait, what?

The Last Trump #fundie

Is your argument that an imaginary deity is not magic and that special creation by magician is not magic? Is it to project your belief in magic against science as a straw man, positing a false equivalence, the result of your attempt? For some people, like most in the iron-age, everything they don't understand is "magic".

Of course, society can only do so much and it's up to you to learn. It does not appear that you are ready with such an attitude. Then why is liberals your scapegoat when your argument is really about reality denial? It may say a lot about your alternative, especially considering the importance of the separation of church and state mandated by the Constitution. If they get their way by weaponizing ignorance, will they also attack education and knowledge? Evidence shows that it actually does.

What do you do with the fact that you're a useful idiot for institutions of corruption and abuse? What about religious people who accept facts? You're saying that they better be liberals too, if they don't want a second Inquisition, other than institutional abuse and unregulated corporate exploitation, or if they want access to education and healthcare, the right to be who they are, live in an environment that can sustain life, etc.

If all of that is for your personal gain, what does that make you?

Ann Calatayud/Bride Ministries International #fundie #crackpot #ufo #magick #quack

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This is the new age version of Weird Al’s Hardware Store. Imagine if he performed this instead of the original song. That would be pretty funny.