Croquemitaine

@Croquemitaine

Basiliskos #fundie

Well, atheists may be wiser than you think, as well as the religious who accept the overwhelming evidence for evolution.

False equivalence. You can meet the cook, you can't meet the imaginary deity. You can taste the cook's food, you can't call for divine manna or for magic honey tasting scrolls to manifest and taste them. You know that a prepared food has a history of preparation, was made by someone, was a recipe imagined by a human, etc. More equivalent would be the fact that both plants and animals (including humans) reproduce, they can serve as ingredients in the recipe. Your parents are still humans, though.

In the case of life, we know some of the history, for instance that it diversified and evolved through natural processes like descent with modification and natural selection, but we still can't see evidence of directed creation or of design, of the type humans imagined in their mythology that also includes deities humans imagined. Instead we see a lot of evidence of adaptation resulting in the animals today including us, that includes suboptimal features due to adaptation, but also well fitted features to reproduce and survive and in some areas built-up complexity that are all best explained by evolution.

So your statement sounds like ignorant arrogance and the promotion of obscurantism. Besides, since the evidence of evolution is really overwhelming, many educated and religious have no problem with the facts of nature. Religious doctrines have long been resisting every discovery showing humans to not be the center of the universe. When it's obvious that we're not, due to incredible evidence showing otherwise, large mainstream religions that remained relevant tend to accept facts of nature, including evolution, like Catholicism today.

When you're part of a group that wants you to reject well established knowledge, it may also be an indication that it wants to isolate you from the world and control and exploit you. That may also be evidence of dishonesty and perhaps even malice, meaning that assuming that a deity really existed, it may not agree with the doctrine either. Why would it create a world that we can discover interesting facts about, but torment you for accepting those facts instead of what some ancient ignorant humans wrote and what intellectually dishonest propagandists preach? There's no need to fear knowledge, it can actually in many cases free you from the grip of deceptors.

heavy_rasengan #fundie #homophobia

Even if you cite religious demographics, it still doesn't mean that all of them are homophobic bigots, it also means that part of them are gay even among those who hide it. While people with same sex attraction are among them, so are pedophiles, although they're not mutually inclusive. If it's a patriarchy, it actually means predator havens, women subjugation, victim blaming... meaning more rape, pedophilia, unwanted pregnancies and secret abortions (or even infanticide) than in cultures with more advanced rights.

Since people do not decide their orientation, many Muslims are gay just like in any other group. Many who have the opportunity live in countries where they face less persecution. If you really believe that gay people don't exist around you, you're just blind, like me when I was young and raised in a cult. As part of the doctrine was the disdain of homosexuality but as a hetero in a culture where gays hid their orientation, they seemed to be like a legend to me.

Afterall, the Jehovah's Witnesses are also superstitious and believe in a lot of nonsense, why would this be different? But I learned that they really exist and often it took years for me to learn that some people I knew for a long time are. Their personal life is not my business and it doesn't change anything.

@freedomvan, @betaraybill1 & @Truth1sFreedom #wingnut #conspiracy

Joe Lonsdale #psycho #sexist

Mike Adams #quack #conspiracy

Quack fraud. There's more risk to get heavy metal poisoning from random products sold by quacks, actually.

MyronGainesX #wingnut #fundie

Adri Mans #transphobia #fundie

@Timjer #245433

"Yahweh: How do you know that humans have a gender like the gods? Did you eat of the fruit of knowledge that I have forbidden?"
"Eve: WT..H? I have a... bone?"
"Adam: Huh, wow, I am made for a bone."
"Yahweh: Now take these leaves to hide yourselves... Quick, let's hide the tree of life, lest there be more competition in the patheon. There's already Enki who meddles in my affairs and thanks to him, immortal Utnapishtim who keeps bragging about his adventures... And now let's go tend garden #72. Yawn."

Robin M. Itzler #wingnut #conspiracy #transphobia #racist

"I was once a hardcore commie who sapped precious bodily fluids and wanted to destroy humanity just like the democrats, but more importantly, Christmas! Thankfully, I'm now a crusader serving the Christmas father via the intercession of a magic-hair messiah. I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum. There are commies to crush in the name of Christmas! In Satan Klaus' name I pray!"

Sha'i ben-Tekoa #wingnut #sexist #homophobia #transphobia #fundie

Interesting slippery slope. And before the pill nobody masturbated either and before the "sin" nobody wore clothing and animals were turned into snakes for trying to seduce women, who were created from men's bones. A sky daddy was walking in the garden and having fun baiting them. Reference to ancient mythology doesn't help your case.

The origin myth is also extremely out of context. In the story, they're a type of primordial seeding couple destined to create humanity. Other than only being one of many origin myths and it conflicting with what we have discovered about our origins, the Earth is actually overpopulated today. And the sky daddy doesn't seem to be around with his magic trees and poor tortured animals...

DC Larson #fundie #homophobia

Robert Oscar Lopez #homophobia #fundie #dunning-kruger

Alexander G. Markovsky #wingnut #pratt #conspiracy

Olivia Murray #racist #sexist #wingnut #conspiracy

M. Walter #wingnut

M. B. Mathews #homophobia #wingnut #racist #elitist

And people are forced to read your bigotry campaigns? Fortunately not, I stopped reading at the first paragraph due to #pratt ... I'll read the comments instead.

Know what? The Christmas nonsense made me recall of Poe's Law... It's very ironic considering all the fabricated War on Christmas outrage narratives.

"Sex is a subject you talk about in private."

Also common knowledge that it's the kind of taboo that's very convenient for abusers.

Olivia Murray #homophobia #wingnut #racist #transphobia #ableist #conspiracy

Did another bigotry and divisive fabricated outrage campaign for the glorification of injustice and the normalization of savagery break out again? Stupid freaks pretending to be thinkers? Useful idiots who'll themselves also suffer the consequences of the rot of society they promote and produce?

If you're not already, you'll be old and weak too, someday. You'll need help. Will you deserve or obtain it? Will you be a rejected misfit nobody wants to deal with? Will you have been responsible about the suffering of more noble people because you promoted their suffering? Are you a kid? You sure sound like one, in terms of shameful immaturity.

It also reminds me that in patriarchies women tend to be treated like children, part of their subjugation.

Vince Coyner #racist #conspiracy #wingnut

So if someone's a drug addict, it's ok for the police to strangle them to death? Summary extrajudicial execution is acceptable? When the law is injustice, it only becomes "the law". When it becomes "the law", you have serious problems, it means an illegitimate authority. It's important for it to self-regulate and to have a reputation. If you don't understand that, you can't be expected to understand anything about justice or the protests either.

Olivia Murray #wingnut #sexist #racist #forced-birth #conspiracy

John Klar #wingnut #quack #pratt

I suppose that this is also appropriate in the circumstances... Not to mock the disabled for ableism, but in RFK Jr's case, we have plenty of actual material only worth calling out and mocking, with many valid reasons to discredit the incompetent threat to public health...

He's a long discredited crackpot, the problem is utmost corruption, the only reason he's currently in the house. You're part of the problem if you deny facts in favor of incompetent quackery and disinformation, especially if you're complicit rather than intellectually honest where learning could still be an option.

It's a ridiculous analogy because it's a fundamentalist one, but this reminds me how the JWs interpret "sin against the Holy Spirit", the supposed only thing that would make someone's return on the path of forgiveness totally impossible, a type of damnation magic. To them it simply means willful rebellion that lasts. This is actually meaningless like "sin", since there's no actual deity you can really contact to be sure about what you're expected to do or not, or to rebel against, if it's really rebellion it's to humans and their claims or actions.

But in the case of misinformation and disinformation, there's an actual distinction. The misinformed useful idiots or true believers and the willful deceivers who unfortunately really exist, some humans being evil, the only actual source of evil in the world, in fact. We even created our evil war gods...

"Cult-like worship of mRNA"? Read about the origin of vaccines, how they work and why we take the trouble to engineer and distribute them. A clue is that they provide a certain level of immunity at a much lower risk and inconvenience than an infection, especially when the virus is notoriously deadly. Epidemiologists and virologists know. Most sane people also know. Many epidemics have been successfully mitigated with vaccines and that includes SARS-CoV-2. Society could finally begin to open more widely, thanks to that technology.

Consult an expert, not a quack or a crackpot. Or read a mainstream encyclopedia article, not random bullshit from outrage click bait websites or fake news like Fox.

Awareness and doing your part in society is not cultish, unlike your rabbit hole that you apparently project for false equivalence, as if everything was opinions, as if facts didn't exist. Stupid.

Robert Oscar Lopez #homophobia

As PITTS apparently testify, when raised by control freaks, many are better off living their life elsewhere whenever they can move out. Parents have their share of responsibility in a relationship.

Then it's long known that adopted children can have good relationships with their parents. The quality of a relationship does not depend on family genetics, unless you make it problematic due to ideology, again meaning that it's not due to genetics, or gender, just like with racism and sexism. Then of course, many of the LGBTQ+ are able to conceive children and do.

Culture can divide, but cannot change the fact that human diversity exists and that it does not make people evil or threats to families or society.

It's interesting how you deny the harm of bigotry, while actually promoting it. Hoaxes and disinformation exist, but so does actual history. You're not familiar with how the Nazis treated the LGBTQ+? How about England in the 1950s, like what happened to Turing? And in some African or Middle-East countries right now. You don't think that stigmatization and political pathologization resulted in an oppressive society?

Andrea Widburg #wingnut #transphobia

Pseudoscientific social control of the type the Nazis promoted for racism. Biology was never meant to dictate your behavior, it's science, it's study. Just like human biology confirms that other than minor differences in appearance that re-emerge throughout human history, we're all just the same homo sapiens sapiens, biology also does not support a black and white male/female absolute, there's much more than a chromosome involved in sexual development and assignment at birth is itself a human process. Humans also have complex brains, producing minds that result in way more complex behavior than would happen in reptiles or even in other mammals.

This includes creativity resulting in fantasy like religion, art, ideologies that can alienate people from their actual nature, but also a wide range of social and personal interactions and ultimately, the ability to develop knowledge about all of that, even if it's painstaking. And despite the efforts of some to deny, misrepresent and censor knowledge.

Science not only studies and documents our biology but also our behaviors and our history. Facts conflict with your pseudoscientific ideological arguments. That is not very surprising, since human traditions also conflict among eachother, this includes the contradictions of sacred scriptures even if they have been carefully selected by other humans. Other than sectarianism in each major religious current, there are the multiple religions, those that predated them, with their many deities.

News sources often include non-expert assessments and opinion pieces, but reliable ones still tend to discuss issues attempting a fair analysis, compared to outrage fabrication, advocacy and disinformation sources. Still, you'll find plenty of sexist bigotry and ignorance splipping in occasionally.

As for transgender people being able to fill the same jobs, consider all the cisgender who also adopt children for whatever reason, including infertility. Why should it be different?

The denial and fear mongering intended to repress don't rest on a sound basis, even if it can be effective to persecute. A good reason to fight bigotry, including pseudoscientific social control ideologies.

Carol Brown #conspiracy #wingnut

So if it's not your fascist wannabe dictator it must be "communism", implying that democracy doesn't exist, convenient to attempt to destroy it, consistent with the typical "a republic not a democracy" nonsense.

You need to panic more, because the US and the world have seen what Trumpism really is... Can the GOP retain, or regain, any reputation? Red scare is words, real trouble actually affects lives.

J.B. Shurk #wingnut #transphobia #racist #conspiracy

1) False equivalence, smearing projection, Trumpist disinformation. Claims are not facts and allegations are not convictions.
2) Gun worshipping fear mongering, it would not be a crime to address the issue, look at the awful statistics of the US compared to other countries. The Constitutional arms clause is clearly about the army and the police, not the general population and extremist mobs.
3) My rights are not violated either if you ask me to remove my shoes to walk on your carpet. There was an obvious issue with the shirt, bullying is not conductive to a peaceful learning environment. Some schools also have uniforms. Schools have a number of other rules, it's not a lawless environment. It's interesting how those claiming to be tough against alleged lawlessness are also the ones who want to violate rules they find inconvenient.
4) Technical logistics that requires a lot of time and money to fix if needed. Long term profit from low priced components has a tradeoff. Some plants are in the billions. A corporation is about profit. Privatization and deregulation also come with such drawbacks and unpredictability.

No phone call would solve any of that... You like to bash Biden and to blame him for everything, but what about the accelerated sabotage under Trump?

Robert Oscar Lopez #homophobia

Fundamentalists are notorious for redefining vocabulary: hypocrisy, projection. Denial of the fact that liberties don't prevent people who want to breed to do so. Exposes old conspiracy to force people into it. Misrepresentation of rights for fear mongering, misrepresentation of own social control ideology as vital for "rights". Does not address the obvious well documented problems of enforced abusive patriarchy.

False witnessing. Makes generalizations with select alleged testimonies, often outright fabrications in proselytism. It's like the "former evolutionist" stories obviously exposing the outright ignorance of the topic, demonstrating that they never actually had a basic understanding of biology. Or the detransition stories of thousands when only a few rare historical cases actually exist. Here we have the "ex gays" who "describe it" just like fundamentalists want with their own ignorant straw men, how convenient, how arrogant. Speaking for others.

It's called misleading propaganda, lies.

Robert Oscar Lopez #homophobia #conspiracy

All of the typical libel against human rights for fear mongering and to enforce an abusive patriarchy. Weddings you don't like are "not weddings" (you want to deny it), education is "grooming" (because it protects people against abuse), the LGBTQ rights becomes "pedophilia advocacy" (because that's a notorious problem in patriarchy, easy to project since patriarchy will not solve it), patriarchy means "pro-family" (where "family" is a straw man for a specific ideological authoritarian order and real families are never under threat)... Better luck next time.

Meanwhile, the LGBTQ+ have always existed even if they were not always recognized, especially under that name. In terms of our nature, we reproduce sexually due to a long heritage that helped to contribute to genetic diversity, this came with a strong sex urge that also favored our survival, but that also comes with side effects that were never a threat, thus also persisted. This includes non-reproductive sex for all (humans masturbate like other animals and have recreative and relationship bonding sex like other social animals) and various gender orientations for some. Records of it exist in the ancient world and there's no reason to think that this doesn't all go back to 300k+ years ago for humans. We're still here.

So could it be that your problem is panic relating to your particular demographics and ideology? Societies do indeed evolve and change, just as they always did. We're still here. An obvious thing that may help you is education, something you're apparently also involved in denying to others. It's called obscurantism.

@Creativerealms

Yes they profit from the exploitation of the weak, they don't want you to empower the weak, which education does, or the power which some women sex workers would have under regulations. They're also against worker's unions and worship rich exploitators... Abusing the weak is "strength", etc.

@KeithInc

Yes, if you get to know that they're good normal people, you won't hate them anymore... so the longest stick possible.

Phyllis Chesler #wingnut #homophobia #transphobia #racist #sexist

Deana Chadwell #wingnut #conspiracy

Andrea Widburg #racist #sexist #wingnut

That's a lot of words for the usual white patriarchy narrative of freedom denial. Useful idiot or paid troll?

So since you claim that you could do better to address the rights of women, people of color and minorities, what's your solution? Dehumanizing human rights activism, resulting from actual abuses, exposes that it's just concern trolling with a false bait and straw men, to do nothing and likely even retreat. This dehumanization is evidence that you're part of those who will try to make people pay a price for trying to defend rights. You would not misconstrue rightful lawful protests as "terrorism" if you had no intention to persecute protesters.

Trying to shame decency and justice can only mean the normalization and support of the unacceptable.

In fact, as the US recently turns into a police state, that's still a false excuse used to justify abuses and claim "vengeance". Some really want the streets to be a danger and for people to go in hiding. The excuses are frivolous, fueled by hate, persecutory delusions and fear mongering disinformation.

https://www.vox.com/on-the-right-newsletter/462695/charlie-kirk-george-floyd-trump-kimmel

Selwyn Duke #wingnut #psycho #fundie

Overt Trumpist fascist disinformation, exposing its own nature by its words.

What common ground would there be between extremism that can only sustain itself with alienation narratives and mythology, that seeks to end democratic principles? Distrust disinformation, outright attacks against it, Big Lie and authoritarianism. How is that a compromise for anything?

This even seeks to do away with knowledge, misconstruing our origins as discovered by studying nature using science, with staw men and dehumanization.

Ah, the "country is marriage" nonsense massively promoted by the radicalization trolling of that moment.

Contrary to the constitution? How ironic, when what you have to offer is cultish sermons out of place outside of church and private life, opposing the constitutional separation of church and state? But where religion is clearly weaponized for political corruption. It's not because you claim that democracy is a magic cult out of psychological projection that it makes it true.

Other than replacing the Constitution with some myth, your conclusion is even to do away with the ideals of the founding fathers of your country. That's obviously not to seek compromise, which is bipartisan democracy. It's clear that this is pushing something else. Are you even an American?

Monica Showalter #conspiracy

George Rojas #racist #wingnut

This genocide promotion lacks #psycho

Then there's pseudoscientific racism here, there's only a single human species. Human differences are social and cultural, not biological. Minor changes affecting look can be used for xenophobia and to stratify. Xenophobia is human and exploited by humans, for sure.

J.B. Shurk #wingnut

Who actually caused SARS-CoV-2 to be a disaster in the US? Who promoted disinformation and denial (of gravity, of distancing measures, of vaccine safety and efficacy)? It was mostly domestic and had nothing to do with communism, of course. Well, there also were foreign hybrid disinformation attacks, ironically pro-Trump. That was an information war, not COVID-infected people swarming into the country. Once initially seeded by normal business activity, the virus of a natural origin was spread by your own communities. The data is all available.

When where the borders unimportant? Open borders and xenophobic panic is always the disinformation of those who want mass domestic persecution, deportations and crimes against humanity. It's even more clear five years later.

And way to project your utopias unto others for your old red-scare nonsense...

Rabbi Aryeh Spero #fundie #wingnut #god-complex

If your god existed, you'd likely have been struck by lightning by now. So you're actually only an awful human, worshipping another awful human. And you're involved in Jew-tagging for fascism, also making you a Nazi. Apparently my "spiritual hierarchy" is high enough that I see injustice and don't get struck by lightning either, when denouncing your lack of holiness and lack of humanity... Your kind of evil even led to another fucking genocide, #psycho .

Robert Oscar Lopez #transphobia #homophobia

So apparently you're bi or gay, but have not lived your life due to social pressure and uncertainty about your future? Because to you it is a "lifestyle" that you could adopt, apparently denying that some people are really heterosexuals and others really bi or gay. The heteros just don't "convert to that lifestyle" because they lack that desire, not out of fear, it is just not their own orientation.

This also means that you're not only willing to deny yourself the life you could have, but you would like to strip the livelihood of those who do, due to your own issues.

And who are those alleged groomers, exactly? Do you just mean people expressing their own happiness, that you're jealous about?

And you know who's really conspiring to make their life miserable, who's trying to stigmatize their freedom. You don't want them to be happy and you promote bigotry and fear instead of facts. In a world with fewer bigots, you know that they would risk less facing the difficulties that you mention, but instead you wish they face such and even threaten about it, to repress them.

Erica Moore #psycho #homophobia

Walking in on a closed door? Wasn't it closed for a reason? It's not like he missed dinner and you wondered if he was home or alive, apparently. So instead of deserving privacy, he deserved beatings? It's impossible to have a discussion with a fifteen years old without resorting to violence? He's apparently a better person for not fighting back... How do we know if the stated reason was true anyway? It was a trial for a beating, not a trial for sex. And the stated concern is homosexuality, instead of if it was consensual? If it was not, the victim not only gets abused but also beaten. That's godly justice?

At least parenting classes was part of the sentence. Something that must be lacking in settings where girls end up pregnant and married without proper education or life experience...

Despite the fact that it was physical abuse, I'm not convinced that #psycho fits...

Greg Gutfeld #wingnut

So if it was always about the oil, the endless diversions with all kind of disinformation conspiracy theories, the racism and sexism, the Big Lie, attacks on education and science, ramping up corruption, starting conflicts while claiming to end all conflicts... That was all honest, too?

Houdmann #fundie #quack

This reminds me of Answers-Yahoo where any non-expert would reply anything to any question, but I have the impression that this is even more focused on pseudo-theology?

Neo Deutschland #fundie #homophobia #racist #conspiracy

@TheKingOfRhye #245557

“white straight Christian” doesn’t automatically mean “racist and homophobic” as well.

Something I noticed is that social media accounts prominently advertizing themselves as "Christian" are often not the typical Christian either. The elitism is often immediately perceptible.

And on collaborative projects like Wikipedia, many of those also end up promoting unreliable sources and aiming to "fix the encyclopedia", complaining of bias, etc. Of course, some may really be trolling accounts, but it's rarely clear. On the other hand it's not rare to learn that many old time productive editors are also Christian, but it's not like a prominent fashion statement or identity game to them, unlike for the other cases I mention... And since most of the content and sources represent and was written by the majority, some are even aware of the systemic bias involved in that.

@freedomvan, @betaraybill1 & @Truth1sFreedom #wingnut #conspiracy

"And pray for the end to come now because stupid humans like us will never do anything great ever"

[... Cultish nonsense misconstruing scientific knowledge as cultish nonsense ...] The politics of Satan have infiltrated the hallowed halls of scientific research. This must be corrected.

Projection disinformation of an agenda weaponizing religion for political corruption. Who's the father of lies?

Joe Lonsdale #psycho #sexist

But a society is not manly unless you also break people on wheels, have them drawn and quartered, crush their limbs with elephants and dig out old corpses to beat them to dust.

Er, actually, that's not manly, it's savagery. You're apparently confused. It's also strange that you believe that people will have more trust in a system that's designed to abuse them. It sounds like retrogradation into authoritarian insanity. Many people have worked a long time to slowly get away from such bullshit.

It's typical to misconstrue what is particularly cowardly as "manly" in attempt to whitewash and justify the unacceptable.

ParaNaughtica #sexist #conspiracy

It's not the magicians who love to use after-image illusions to internalize symbols? :)

(Assuming that this is some "Oh! The evil Freemasons and their magic!" argument...)

PITTParents #ableist #conspiracy #transphobia

Tolerance means an abusive cult and the transgender only exist since 2023?

How long have you been living in a cave? Or did you suddenly fall down the rabbit hole where worms ate your brain?

Meanwhile there may actually be a young victim that'll have to deal with your own issues.

Vox Day #racist #conspiracy

You're not "Americans" and NY has actually been a pretty popular image of America. As a Canadian I also know people with "I Love New York" shirts. Well, it's possible that some of them got rid of those last year and it's not due to Mamdani but due to a predatory Trumpist regime...

Adri Mans #transphobia #fundie

For those who see Satan everywhere, everything is demonic anyway. And it hits you in the face as you end up isolated and sometimes exploited by those who profit from your fear and naivety... Invoking Baal won't fix your personal and family relationship issues and it's just a way to deny your ignorance and attempt to whitewash your bigotry.

"I'm an asshole but I'm still better than you because I claim that you worship Baal and that the world is Satan's!"

D. Parker #wingnut #conspiracy

It's a typical right-wing trope to confuse all forms of socialism with the extremes where some communist and soviet regimes went (i.e. Mao, Stalin) and to create that "commie" straw man. In the case of fascism, it's very ironic because they adopt the legacy of people like Lenin and Hitler and their fear-mongering, hate and authoritarianism... They also typically play with the fact that Nazism called itself socialist, even if it really wasn't. That's very ironic too.

The ideals of social democracies are really different and have actually been quite successful, other than being subject to sabotage by those who abuse rights to ramp up corruption and erode rights.

Liz Wheeler #wingnut

Never again will ANY U.S. president or politician be allowed to stage deadly forever wars. [...] The amount of human life he’s preserved and the human flourishing he’s protected is historic.

Total hypocrite.

various commenters #wingnut #fundie

Because of course, Jesus told you to be an asshole and to persecute people?

"Sounds like the goddam Spanish Inquisition to me!"
--McCoy

Ben Pollock #fundie #pratt #wingnut #psycho

Basically something that should scandalize both Christians for corrupting religion for polical purposes, as well as those who understand the importance of the separation of church and state... This also confuses religious rights and insurrectionist ideology which is really something else.