“If there is no God, there is no freedom to choose.”
But if there IS a god, then the bible says that once you’re saved you cannot choose to sin.
I gotta think you’re just making shit up, here, bubbles.
“If there is no freedom to choose, there is no good or evil.”
Yes! If God won’t let you sin, what is the point of being saved? You give up all your choices to the big guy.
“There is merely action and inaction. There is no way to be good for goodness sake — that would require an act of voluntary will far beyond human capacity.”
I’m an atheist, so i’m convinced that goodness for goodness sake is the ONLy goodness. otherwise it’s just preserving your selfimage.
“Atheists simply gloss over this point.”
We don’t gloss over it, you just do absolutely nothing to prove it. So we can ignore your yammering until you do.
“The American Humanist Association states on its website, whybelieveinagod.org, We can have ethics and values based on our built-in drives toward a moral life. Without a soul, this is wishful thinking of the highest order.”
Okay. I mean, as an atheist, I could believe in souls if i ever saw evidence for them, but you’ve offered nothing but scorn so far. why wuold i care what you say?
“Since when does biology dictate a moral drive?”
Since the dawn of civilization, Bennie. We’re social beings, we need morals to avoid anarchy.
“If it did, wouldn't man always get more rather than less moral — wouldn't history be a long upward climb?”
Um, yes. Note that we gave the vote to women, to blacks, to minorities, we gave autonomy to women, we gave freedoms to gays… Not without drama, but the march of progress is ever progressive.
“What about the murderers, rapists, child molesters and genocidal dictators? Are they all ignoring that built-in drive toward a moral life?”
Yes, largely. They just value their personal desires more.