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richardbrake #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[On same sex parents]

Steed: Here's some evidence for you. Now you show some evidence that supports anything you've been saying. You get extra points for stuff that isn't peer reviewed and a gold star for the Family Research Council.

[provides list of links with evidence supporting claims]

richardbrake: Do you want me to link to all the Christian funded research which shows the opposite. I can if you like. But neither that nor the present sociology will prove anything. Why? because it is too early to assess the psychological harm to the children involved. It is too early even to determine the relevant parameters.

None of your "evidence" is evidence of anything other than that the left will lie for its own purposes. It has always done this. It always will.

Steed: "Do you want me to link to all the Christian funded research which shows the opposite"

Please do. If it's peer reviewed and published in a reputable journal I'm happy to critique any evidence you care to supply.

However anything less than peer reviewed & published is more opinion than evidence. Is that bar too high for you?

richardbrake: Peer review means nothing. I explained lower down the thread that for almost thirty years the left denied the existence of the human races. It is still the official code in some fields of biology, notwithstanding the genetic evidence we now have and the existence of race-specific medicines developed through population genetics.

The left lies. It has always lied. It is lying now. Your "evidence" is the lies of sociologists.

Dandelo disintegrates #racist telegraph.co.uk

Dandelo distintegrates: That which is pathologized as "racism" is natural and adaptive.

[So it's perfectly natural and defensible to assault someone just going about his business based on his race?]

Dandelo disintegrates: I don't care about the oafish behaviour of Chelsea fans.
What I do care about is the importation of Third World pathology into European countries.
Our treasonous elites belong on lampposts.

manufactureconcept #racist telegraph.co.uk

The fundamental problem with England is that its elite largely absolutely detest the native people of this country and are full of nothing but contempt for them. They see the native white English as the absolute worst race on earth and want nothing but their total replacement by immigrants, any immigrants from anywhere. Just as long as they are not native white English.

In any other country an elite that treacherous and that destructive to their country would have been overthrown or at the very least heavily resisted, but in England they have been able to destroy this country almost unchallenged and staggering many native white English people themselves are so conditioned by far-left mainstream media propaganda that they actively support the destruction of their own race and culture.

MP David Tredinnick #fundie telegraph.co.uk

A Tory MP has claimed NHS over-crowding could be solved by doctors using astrology to treat patients.

David Tredinnick said consulting the stars would "take huge pressure off doctors" and predicts astrology will "have a role to play in healthcare."

The MP for Bosworth in Leicestershire also admitted he had prepared astrological charts for fellow MPs.

In an interview with this month's Astrological Journal, the controversial MP said: "There would be a huge row over resources.

"However, I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors.

"Ninety per cent of pregnant French women use homeopathy.

"Astrology is a useful diagnostic tool enabling us to see strengths and weaknesses via the birth chart.

"And, yes, I have helped fellow MPs. I do foresee that one day astrology will have a role to play in healthcare."

He added that opponents to astrology were "bullies", saying: "Astrology offers self-understanding to people.

"People who oppose what I say are usually bullies who have never studied astrology.

"They never look at it. They are absolutely dismissive. Astrology may not be capable of passing double-blind tests but it is based on thousands of years of observation.

"Hippocrates said, 'A physician without a knowledge of astrology has no right to call himself a physician,'

"Astrology was until modern times part of the tradition of medicine. I think it is a great pity that so many scientists today are dismissive of right-side brain energy, such as intuition.

"People such as Professor Brian Cox, who called astrology 'rubbish' have simply not studied the subject.

"The BBC is quite dismissive of astrology and seeks to promote the science perspective and seems always keen to broadcast criticisms of astrology."

Bizarrely, Tredinnick, 65, who is chairman of the All-Party Group for Integrated Healthcare, went on to say people who opposed astrology were "racist".

He said: "The opposition (to astrology) is based on what I call the SIP formula - superstition, ignorance, and prejudice.

"It tends to be based on superstition, with scientists reacting emotionally, which is always a great irony.

"They are also ignorant, because they never study the subject and just say that it is all to do with what appears in the newspapers, which it is not, and they are deeply prejudiced, and racially prejudiced, which is troubling."

Roger James Michael Sutherland #racist telegraph.co.uk

[Interview with UKIP MP Douglas Carswell]

"Immigration has not been without its challenges. Yet it has been, overwhelmingly, a story of success."

It has not, and it is grotesque for him to reduce the race riots, rape gangs, terrorism and other crimes to mere "challenges", which somehow outweighed by the fact that Britain has been transformed (to the chagrin of millions of Britons, some of whom I suspect would have voted for Carswell because they thought UKIP was took the opposite view).

It was not implemented with the support of the voting population, nor has it been accepted by a "free society". A free society does not establish Race Relations acts designed to stifle critics of immigration and those who prefer not to be forced to "adapt" to new customs hoisted on them by social-revolutionaries (a process praised by Carswell).

If the Australian system is so desirable, how did the gunmen from the recent Sydney siege get into that country in the first place?

Lena Smith #racist telegraph.co.uk

This country went down the pan after Windrush. The Jamaicans have bought crime, disorder and chaos.

The Jamaicans are an insolent, rude, and arrogant race of people. They've "enriched" us with ghettos, gun crime, fatherless babies and disorder.

Windrush is the worst thing to have happened to this country. All immigration from Jamaica should be banned.

Steadfast Trust supporters #racist telegraph.co.uk

The Steadfast Trust, which was set up in 2004 claims to be the only charity representing the Anglo Saxon community in England. On its website it boasts of providing books and educational tools for schoolchildren, while also giving out grants to help relieve poverty among people of Anglo Saxon descent.

But one of its trustees has now been suspended and a police investigation launched after it was accused of peddling a far right political agenda.

[...]

Undercover footage obtained by a reporter on ITV1’s Exposure programme found supporters proudly admitting membership of National Front, BNP and even the Ku Klux Klan, while also chanting White Power slogans.

[...]

They meet the group in a pub where one of the supporters, called Steve, quickly launches into a shocking racist rant. He is caught on camera saying: “Remember at the Waltham Abbey last year? There was a geezer who come up with the f****** n***** wife and the n***** kid with the white dragon kid.”

[...]

The group are then caught on camera making Nazi salutes and chanting “white power” and “victory to the Aryan race”. Another of those at the gathering uses the phrase “14 Words”, a reference to a slogan from of Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, which states:

“We must ensure the existence of our people and a future for our white children”.

After spotting a mixed race family nearby, a member of the group racially insults the couple’s young son. He says: “There’s a human sacrifice there look. Get the f****** axe ready, we’re on. Hail the glorious dead. I think he has been doing that mud racing.”

agenda21 #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

The criminal cartel (Council for Foreign Relations, NeoCons) that has taken control of the United States, supported by their gangster pals in Israel, London, Berlin, etc. etc., have decided to end all viable Nation-States in the Middle-East.
Any Nation that opposes Israel or refuses to follow US dictates is to be reduced to 'failed state status'. Like Iraq and Libya, Syria is earmarked for perpetual poverty, squalour, violence, mayhem and abject misery, under the boot of the Western controlled warlords in ISIL and the like.
The Syrian people, with the support of Russia, have, so far, managed to withstand the onslaught of the Western trained, armed and funded 'terrorist' thugs. Should al-Assad be toppled, Iran is next in line for the 'treatment'.

Despite the disgusting propaganda of the vast bulk of the MSM, and the frantic efforts of the 'useful idiots' and idiotic trolls. Most of the people in Britain and America do not support the criminal actions, and intentions, of the cretins in power.

billrob1 #racist telegraph.co.uk

There are broadly three ways we English can survive:

(1) Full repatriation sooner - a little blood.

(2) Full repatriation later - more blood.

(3) Winning the all out race war that will inevitably come if we don't do (1) or (2). Rivers of blood.

So the moral choice is absolutely clear.

Lebanese citizens #fundie telegraph.co.uk

An Israeli beauty queen's selfie has caused a stir in Lebanon, with some Lebanese calling for their country's contestant at the Miss Universe pageant to be stripped of her title for consorting with the enemy.

Miss Israel, Doron Matalon, posted a photo of herself and Miss Lebanon, Saly Greige, smiling together at pageant preparations in Miami, where the winner will be picked on January 25.

The two countries are technically at war, although the border has been largely quiet since their 2006 conflict. The Lebanese risk prison if they call or travel to Israel and all Israeli products are banned in Lebanon.

Some Lebanese have demanded on social media that Ms Greige lose her title for contact with a citizen of the enemy state.

Ms Greige defended herself on the photo-sharing service, Instagram, on Saturday, saying Ms Matalon had pestered her for a picture together and finally photobombed her.

manufactureconcept #racist telegraph.co.uk

There is no hope for the English race. Mass immigration is making them a minority in their own country in record time.

Furthermore, white English women have taken to race mixing with an enthusiasm unparalleled in most countries and seem to delight in destroying their own race, courtesy of the nasty anti-English media which promotes such relations, always immigrant man and white English woman, as desirable.

emilyardley #racist telegraph.co.uk

It is far from too late. Repatriation is on the agenda. The task now is to explain to our people the simple truth of what is being done to us, that we are being systematically killed off (they already know it instinctively) and affirm that nothing at all, least of all forced repatriation, is morally proscribed to a people struggling to survive.

Regarding mudsharks, we should shame any of our women who so disgrace themselves

Anders Behring Breivik #wingnut #sexist telegraph.co.uk

As for girlfriends; I do get the occasional lead, or the occasional girl making a move, especially now a day [sic] as I'm fit like hell and feel great. But I'm trying to avoid relationships as it would only complicate my plans and it may jeopardize my operation.


Human males are imperfect by default as they are plagued by their biological needs. Nevertheless, screwing around outside of marriage is after all a relatively small sin compared to the huge amounts of grace I am about to generate with my martyrdom operation and it is essential that you do what is required to keep moral and motivation at a high level

fafold #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[On the issue of transgender people using restrooms]

Gender neutral? What kind of nonsense is that? How can a gender ever be neutral? One is a man or one is a woman. The rest is made up PC Frankfurter Schule nonsense. No wonder we are in decline...

Pakistani Court #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Pakistani court has upheld the death sentence of a Christian woman who was convicted for blasphemy in 2010 after a row with a group of Muslim women over a glass of water.


Asia Bibi, a 50-year-old mother of five, had appealed before the Lahore High Court against the ruling, in which she was found guilty of insulting Islam's Prophet Muhammad, but the court rejected her appeal Thursday, her lawyer said.


Sardar Mushtaq, a defence lawyer, said she would appeal to the country's Supreme Court.


"We have the right to appeal in 30 days, and we will continue this legal battle by approaching the Supreme Court of Pakistan," Mr Mushtaq said.


"We have a strong case, and we will try our best to save her life," he told The Associated Press.

Mrs Bibi was arrested after Muslim women told a cleric in a village in the eastern Punjab province that she had made "derogatory remarks" about the prophet.

He said the trouble began when the women objected to Mrs Bibi using their drinking glass because she was not a Muslim, setting off a heated verbal exchange.

Mrs Bibi's case drew global criticism in 2011 when Pakistan's minister for minorities Shahbaz Bhatti and eastern Punjab Governor Salman Taseer were killed for supporting her and opposing blasphemy laws.

Taseer was killed in the capital Islamabad by one of his police guards after visiting Bibi in jail.

Bhati was killed months later by the Pakistani Taliban, who called him an "infidel Christian."

International and local human rights groups have called for amending blasphemy laws introduced by the military dictator Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq in 1980s.

In a statement Thursday, Amnesty International called for Mrs Bibi's release.

"This is a grave injustice," said David Griffiths, Amnesty's Deputy Asia Pacific Director. He said there were serious concerns about the fairness of the trial.

"Her mental and physical health has reportedly deteriorated badly during the years she has spent in almost total isolation on death row. She should be released immediately and the conviction should be quashed," he said.

Under Pakistani blasphemy laws, insulting the Koran or the Prophet Muhammad can be punished with life imprisonment or death. Experts say the laws often are exploited for personal gain.

Pakistan imposed a moratorium on executions in 2008 and has never executed anyone convicted of blasphemy. Instead, such cases usually linger on appeal.

rogerhicks #racist telegraph.co.uk

"just 15 per cent in 2012 [disapproved of mixed marriage). It’s a record of change and growing acceptance to be proud of."

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An inevitable consequence of which, however, is that our ancient (white) race of closely related European peoples will disappear into the Melting Pot of a globalised humanity.

What's to be "proud" of in that?

Did my father spend 6 years of his life helping to prevent the imposition of a German master race (despite being pretty Germanic himself), only for us to have a "mixed-race master race" imposed on us instead . . . ??

"Diversity" is Orwellian newspeak for the Global Melting Pot into which it is intended the despised, i.e. self-despising, white race will dissolve and disappear. Which according to state racial ideology, doesn't matter, because race is just a "social construct", only of importance to nasty "racists" like myself.

Jean-Marie Le Pen #racist telegraph.co.uk

Speaking on Tuesday night in Marseille shortly before a joint rally with Marine Le Pen, his daughter and current party leader, Mr Le Pen, 85, said: "There is a demographic explosion in the world and a risk of submersion. A replacement of (the national population) is under way."

However, he added: "Monsieur Ebola can solve the problem in three months."

Mr Ferrari #fundie telegraph.co.uk

“We live in a disenchanted society, a secularised world that thought it was being emancipated, but where religion is being thrown out, the window is being opened to superstition and irrationality,” said Mr Ferrari

crosscop #fundie telegraph.co.uk

There is, of course, another angle to this. Halal meat comes from halal slaughterhouses which are staffed by Muslims. In the food outlets, halal and non-halal meat cannot be kept together because of cross contamination - so the non-halal disappears. That means fewer jobs in the industry for non-Muslims and more jobs for Muslims. In addition, some of the profits from halal slaughterhouses goes to the mosque - and from there finances further mosque building and even jihad.
This is not just about the cruelty involved - it is about the never ending Islamification of our country. And it is not just happening here, either - France has the same problem.
We should join Denmark, Sweden and Poland in banning ritual slaughter. That would at least be a start in the fight back.

Gianna Jessen #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[Gianna Jessen claims to be the survivor of a failed saline abortion that her teenage single mother got when she was 7 months pregnant.]

She [Jessen] also remembers a tremendous fear of fire. "I think that was the result of what had happened," she says. "A saline injection abortion effectively burns you in your mother's womb."

[...]

"My mother made a decision that she thought affected only her, and yet every day I bear the result of that decision through my cerebral palsy," she says. "I'm not saying that in condemnation, but in truth.

"It's more comfortable for people to think of abortion as a political decision, or a right. But I am not a right. I am a human being. I am the reality. Gently I put the question, if abortion is about women's rights, then where were mine? There was no radical feminist screaming for my rights on that day."

True Freethinker #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Europe from the 5th to the 18th century was the best and most peaceful period in European history.

I posted another comment earlier detailing the multiple genocides inflicted by Pagan tribes against one another in prehistorical times and later by the Pagan Romans who committed genocide against numerous European nations.

Not one nation in Europe suffered genocide under Christian rule between the 5th and 18th centuries. With the rise of secularism, the British state committed genocide against both the Scots and Irish in the 18th and 19th centuries. The secular French Revolution murdered hundreds of thousands. And of course the 20th century was truly the darkest in human history with both Nazism and Communism.

Alexander Rawls #sexist telegraph.co.uk

Reminds me of Marabel Morgan's 1973 book The Total Woman. Morgan was in the social circle of the wives of Miami Dolphins football players and witnessed how a large percentage of these pampered young wives were destroying their marriages by turning into slovenly nags, so she wrote an advice book teaching her friends two things.

The first was time management. Hey girls: get your small half of the division of labor within your marriages done early, so you don't feel unhappy and bitchy about cleaning, grocery shopping, cooking etcetera on account of only getting it done at the last minute and under pressure. Get your stuff done early and you can feel great about yourselves while you go about your "me" time shoe-shopping or whatever, instead of feeling guilty about getting nothing done all day.

The second was to tell these women that in their conflicts with their husbands, THEY were the problem, not the husbands. These pampered young wives were always trying to vie for power in their relationships by doing stupid things like withholding sex because their husband hadn't taken out the trash yet. They were following female instincts to find grounds on which to see themselves as wronged, which they would then try to use as leverage. In short, these wives were not self-controlled and needed a man to control them, to not tolerate their bitchiness, but how many men are up to that without getting pissed off and alienated? These guys were stud athletes. That didn't make them extraordinary men who had any special talent for dealing with irrationally demanding women.

So Morgan tried to teach the women how to control themselves. She told them not to try to gain and use manipulative power in their marriages but do the opposite. Instead of holding back affection until they got what they wanted the wives were advised to unilaterally disarm: to give freely and generously, to stop nagging, to be hot for sex regardless of what else was going on the the relationship, and it worked.

All these wives discovered that it had indeed been them who was the problem. When they became forthcoming and generous their husbands did not grab the offered territory and demand still more. They didn't become oppressive. Instead they became MORE willing to do their part of the household division of labor. They reciprocated, and were just happy that their wives were not being bitches anymore, making them want to be with their wives more and make their wives happy.

The feminists absolutely hated it. The idea that women were the problem, not men, went against all of their ideology. But there is obviously a lot of truth to it: in very many cases women ARE the problem, and for that large fraction of cases the advice to stop being a bitch is important wisdom. Neither does it do any harm to women who aren't bitches to see someone lay out the ways in which a lot of other women ruin their marriages.

Then there are the feminists, that small minority of women who embrace self-destructive bitchiness, who don't want to be givers and don't want other women to be givers, but want all women to be as demanding and stingy as possible. That's their fight against men. They are in a constant tug of war.

malcolmp #fundie #homophobia telegraph.co.uk

I told you Ekonomiques. Micro to be precise. You must be from the chattering classes - you are so obsessed with what is "correct" grammar

The problem with you people is thatt having blackmailed MPs to pass the gay marriage law and used the media to bully the general public you thought everything would go quiet.

It wont. Christians and Muslims will NEVER accept "gay" marriage and the fight will go on causing a deep schism in society. I believe an unfortunate side effect is that discrimination and attacks on gays will increase (not by Christians I hasten to add) and attempts to get the police to use more and more force wont work.

And you are failing to see that history is against you.
So called "gay rights" have been forced on the majority in Europe and the US but these countries are in decline. China is hostile to "gay rights". India is also hostile and will soon elect a Hindu nationalist prime minister who will be even more strident. Russian policies on homosexuality are spreading throughout the former soviet union. In Africa, draconian laws agaist homesxuality are spreading like wildfire. I dont think we need to mention the Middle East do we? South America will always be influenced by Catholic teaching and please dont think Pope Francis is going to alter church views on homosexuality. He is just
doing some good PR to take the heat of the child abuse scandals.

All in all, the influential countries of the future are very much against the Western idea of gay rights and Western actions are making things worse not better..

Dont get me wrong, I disapprove strongly of what African countries are doing. The point is I am a relative moderate on these issues but the more the UK/USA pushes
these countries the more likelihood there is of some group of nutters putting forward draconian and outrageous laws.

With homosexuality the motto should be "discretion in exchange for tolerance" not "in your face" gay rights

NitroFan #racist telegraph.co.uk

Autonomous cars are not the end of driving on the contrary they offer the only chance of safety on the British roads of the future!

Overcrowded roads, drivers with no idea of the UK highway code and comic licences bought in Russia Poland Latvia Lithuania India Pakistan Iraq Afghanistan and all dog piles east along with their uninsured road racer offspring, massive congestion and fuel being taxed to the limit THATS the end of driving.

Mind you once some UK trained traitor in a goat herds hut in Islamistan gets the message from his al qaeda trained imam to "KILL" I have no doubt they will be able to cause all the "smart" cars to run over non believers all over the UK

Dieudonné #racist telegraph.co.uk

Dieudonné is currently under formal investigation over comments about a well-known French-Jewish radio presenter, in which he says: “When the wind turns, I don’t think he’ll have time to pack a suitcase. When I hear Patrick Cohen talking, you see, I think of gas chambers. Pity.

[Bolding mine]

aardvark2 #fundie telegraph.co.uk

How dare the WHO criticise good Tory policy. Just as bad as the bbc and it's left wing views on anything Conservative.

Catering for the poor and unfortunates would cost us even more and particularly the higher tax payers. Just because much of Europe is more generous to these people, certainly doesn't mean we have to follow suit. Europe generally has better health services, pensions, welfare and benefits and this reflects it's idealistic socialism. Even more reason for us to get out of the EU asp.

No, for once we have a Government following Maggie T's philosophies: if you aint got, you don't get, and rightly ridding us of an over culture of altruism and pity. If Cameron hasn't got the stomach, then bring back Duncan-Smith. He aint bright, but at least he's got excellent Thatcherite values, and knows what the Traditional Tory really wants.

[A time machine to travel back to Victorian Britain?]

Nothing wrong with that.

Maggie T was a professed admirer of the Amended Poor Laws of the 1880s. These helped fashion her philosophy, and the advent of much admired Thatcherism.

These laws made it much more difficult for the poor to get handouts from the State and reduced their dependence on the workhouse. To survive they had to seek work of any kind, and provided the cheap labour that drove the Industrial Revolution reducing the heavy taxation of the rich. Result, a very prosperous country.

Thatcher, Joseph, and to some extent, Tebbit, incorporated this into their policies, and is something the present Government neglect at it's own peril.

drstar #racist telegraph.co.uk

Most people who're born into an unmixed ethnicity suffer no significant ill-effects. Yes, closer inbreeding would incur serious risks from recessive traits. Yes, incest should be discouraged for medical reasons. OK, that's a fairly rational and bias-free view.

However to go from that point to the deliberate celebration and encouragement of multiracial breeding is a wild and fallacious leap. Yes, multiracial couples are becoming more common, but that may be due to the disproportionate fertility or lower self-control of people at a certain end of the socio-economic scale. A symptom of the Welfare State and overcrowded urban demographics?

Most normal people feel no sexual attraction to people of differing race. We see that the races are equally human, but developing an attraction would require as hard an effort as turning from straight to gay (or vice versa). We're naturally drawn to opposite-sex mates who're of a matching background, appearance and brightness. Are we now supposed to suppress our nature, deliberately pick mixed partners, and submit to a politically correct campaign for xenophile blending?

steveleeoflondon #racist telegraph.co.uk

Indeed, I've given blood 54 times, despite living in the city where whites are a minority - the vast majority of all blood donors are white. I've had enough, I shall not be giving blood again because the chances are it will be given to an invader - the only blood I shall spill again will be on the battlefield when the ultimate conclusion of this mental multi-cult experiment transpires.

AlexxTheGreat #racist telegraph.co.uk

I have to add:..Eurpeans were never decended from Africans...OR, if they were, the intelligent ones stayed on the European continent, became farmer, scientists, artists, builders, politicians...They built roads, farms and houses....museums and arena's of all kinds.Are you telling me that the ones who stayed in Africa were the dumb ones...the ones who still crap in holes in the ground.THOSE...the ones that came here on slave boats...They stayed and waited to be traded as human flesh.
Europeans are, in no way, related to anything on the African continent.....that is a stretch of wild imagining, son.

Palfreman #fundie #sexist telegraph.co.uk

Last year my wife split up with me. Not my doing at all. Now she has a meal ticket for life, all my money and assets are lost, I've no control over the children at all and only see them at the weekends. I am a highly productive high earner and I've been utterly bankrupted by this

Now, I've spent some time in the Gulf, and I know how it works in Muslim country. And it is much better for men. You retain custody of the children. Divorce is simple and cheap (compared to the thousands I am still spending on lawyers) - just say "I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee" to her. Then she has to go back to her parents.

Islamic family law is streets ahead of us. It has none of the problems that we have, where women are directly bribed to break up with their husbands. Nor is the capital of the most productive people in our society, professional men, stolen and ruined - we keep it and carry on investing. There is a certain financial loss to women in divorce.

Also, frankly the thing about being able to take second wives makes things much more convenient. It is common for a professional man to want to take a second wife, especially when his first wife is beyond childbearing years. We do too. Just we have to go there awful rigmarole of divorce and the destruction of the assets we worked our whole life to build up. Not so with the muslims. So long as you can support a second wife you can, leaving the existing wife in place and not disrupting anything at all. It is much better.

I'm quite convinced that family law in Western Christian countries will lead to Islamisation. For me, it would have been much better. I could live with not eating pork for that - I much prefer beef and lamb anyway.

extimesreader1 #fundie telegraph.co.uk

I'm having a bit of a Damascene moment here.

Seriously thinking about converting to Islam.

Just think,

an end to enforced homosexuality,

our lovely lags executed or hands choppped off,

the missus will have to stop her yapping,

Jihad on the BBC.

As a white middle aged, middle class Englishman I stand no chance out there in our glorious brave new world, but as a Muslim I can take on the Liberal Elite.

Tempting, bloody tempting.

condate #fundie telegraph.co.uk

(on learning that the Boy Scouts are going to be allowing atheists)

This is an absolute disgrace. To allow the enemies of all that is good and right into the scouts, destroys the purpose of the organisation.

Faizrakhman Satarov #fundie telegraph.co.uk

70 sect members found living underground in Russia

A reclusive sect that literally went underground to stop contact with the outside world kept 27 children in dark and unheated cells, many of them for more than a decade, prosecutors said Wednesday. The children have been freed and the parents charged with child abuse.
Some of the children, aged between 1 and 17, have never seen daylight, health officials said. The sect's 83-year-old founder Faizrakhman Satarov, who declared himself a Muslim prophet in contradiction with the principles of Islam, has also been charged with negligence, Irina Petrova, deputy prosecutor in the provincial capital of Kazan, told The Associated Press.
No members of the sect, who call themselves "muammin" after the Arabic term that means "believers," have been arrested, she said.
The children were discovered last week when police searched the sect grounds as part of a probe into the recent killing of a top Tatarstan Muslim cleric, an attack local officials blame on radical Islamist groups that have mushroomed in the oil-rich, Volga River province.
Satarov, a former top imam in the neighboring province of Bashkortostan, declared his house outside Kazan an independent Islamic state. He ordered some 70 followers to live in cells they dug under the three-story building topped by a small minaret with a tin crescent moon. Only a few sect members were allowed to leave the premises to work as traders at a local market, Russian media reported.
The children have been placed in local hospitals for observation and will temporarily live in an orphanage, pediatrician Tatyana Moroz said in televised remarks.

UK Ministry of Defence Government Officials #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

Government officials believe aliens may visit Earth and suggest harnessing UFO technology for UK defences, files say.

Documents from the Ministry of Defence classified archives show staff believed aliens could visit for “military reconnaissance”, “scientific” research or “tourism”.

In a 1995 briefing now published by the National Archives, a desk officer said the purpose of reported alien craft sightings “needs to be established as a matter of priority”, adding there did not appear to be “hostile intent”.

The unnamed official said it was “essential that we start with open minds”, explaining “what is scientific ‘fact’ today may not be true tomorrow”.

Clarifying he did not “talk to little green men every night”, he said: “We have a remit that we have never satisfied. That is, we do not now (sic) if UFOs exist. If they do exist, we do not know what they are, their purpose or if they pose a threat to the UK. If the sightings are of devices not of the earth then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority. There has been no apparent hostile intent and other possibilities are: 1) Military reconnaissance; 2) Scientific; 3) Tourism.”

He added that “if reports are taken at face value” they showed extraterrestrial vehicles had “a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy.”

Thus, he suggested, “we could use this technology, if it exists”.

[...]

Papers also show the existence of a "Flying Saucer Working Party" within government during 1950-52.

In 1998, one worried member of staff annotated the file to say: “Oh dear! This makes our 'no interest' in [flying saucers] look suspect. I know not now but maybe then."

Glenn Beck #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[On the recent terrorist attacks in Norway.]

Beck said that the Labour party youth camp on the island, where 68 people were murdered, bore "disturbing" similarities to the Nazi party's notorious juvenile wing.

Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."

whoopn #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Let's have us a little science here, rather than uneducated conjecture as seems to be so prevalent on this post. You know...all of these answers are out there and are easily tangible if you read the bible and do a little bit of research that doesn't involve atheists and their pithy opinions.

Read this:
http://www.drdino.com/the-star-of-bethlehem-fact-or-fiction

Stop believing every atheist is smart, they are generally children looking for a place among the greats but sadly they have no greater accomplishment then trash talking what they do not understand. Nearly every great scientist was Christian: Newton, Maxwell, Legrange, and the list is huge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science).

The reason for this is they didn't spend all of their waking hours trying to disprove and everpresent fact. There is a God, He sent is Son to reconcile us to Him by taking our Sin and NAILING it to a cross.
Yes there was a virgin birth and no that is not normal.

Yes Jesus lived and died a sinless and unmarried God/man.

No the church is not perfect and never will be, in fact if you find a perfect church don't join it...you'll only mess it up.

No being Christian isn't about living your life trying not to sin, if it were then we'd all sit and do nothing so we couldn't sin. The POINT was that we WOULD do something, that we would tell the world about Christ's sacrifice so that you all can know Him.

Going to Heaven isn't about WHAT you know, its about WHO you know.

St. Peter is NOT standing at some pearly gate, the gate keeper is Christ and no one else.

And if you like to think of Christians as stupid and ignorant fools that have to leave their brains at the door when they go to church then you are sorely mistaken. To know Christ and to understand Him is the most deeply involving mental task you will ever try to undertake, and without Christ's salvation and the holy spirit living inside you one can NOT understand.

I don't judge you, I simply point out the fact that you can't stop judging others because of your own fear that everything I am typing is true and you know it.

Yona Metzger and Shlomo Amar #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Abortions delay Messiah's arrival, Israel's chief rabbis say

The high number of abortions in Israel are delaying the arrival of the Messiah, Israel's two chief rabbis have said.

Published: 6:21PM GMT 29 Dec 2009

In a letter to Israel's faithful, Yona Metzger, the Ashkenazi chief rabbi, and his Sephardic colleague Shlomo Amar, said the country's high rate of terminations cause a "delay [of] the messianic redemption," according to a report on the Ynetnews website.

harry fredericks #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

I question the reality of Anthropogenic climate change, as should all thinking people. Also I oppose wind power 100%. I view windfarms as an assault on the Planet and its peoples. Wind farms are a clumsy and ugly attempt at climate engineering, as thery greatly disrupt the planets "Hadley cells". Too, I must add that a guge number of people are questioning the trojan horse inside which is packaged the one world government our traitors in Parliament refer to as the New World Order. The whole thing is spin, bunkum and lies. I know the Telegraph is overseen by MI6, but how do find the nerve to peddle such tosh?

John Whittle #fundie telegraph.co.uk

(About the LHC)

A big CON-CERN to everyone obviously. But who's being conned eh? The big bang theory is only theory. Why waste so much precious money on theoretical wishy washy wishful thinking, which may or may not prove anything. No wonder there's so much anger in peoples' hearts when there are human beings suffering for lack of essentials. Stinks don't it? If the gnostics want some evidence of creation all they have to is read the first chapter of the Bible. There's far more facts to hold onto in the truth, than there is in theory. How much will this information cost? Nothing. Now that's something to be CON-CERN-ED about...

Steve #fundie telegraph.co.uk

(Commenting on the LHC)

Risking the earth and all life for the exploitation of the poor by the wealthy...... That's not really a name, but it is accurate. JR Oppenheimer, lead scientist on the Manhattan Project later admitted that many of the scientists working on the first atomic bomb believed that the chain reaction would continue and destroy our planet......... they exploded it anyway! Mad scientists willing to kill our planet, just so they can play with their Hell toys. We must take back our world from these sick, satanically demented demons or we will all pay the ultimate price for our apathy. There is NO energy shortage. Only a glut of greedy devil spawn who maintain the satus quo and regulate our lives in EVERY respect. If there IS a shortage, it is with the brainwashed people of our planet... too stupid to see or think beyond what those in control tell them to think. Their shortage of common sense and willingness to be informed has allowed this risk and many before to occur and continue. 12 Monkeys......or worse. -Frydaddy

Sri Ram Sena group #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Militants belonging to a group called Sri Ram Sena, who claim to be custodians of Indian culture, said Valentine's Day is un-Indian.

The threat comes days after the group's activists stormed a bar in the south western city of Mangalore, dragging out and beating women they accused of acting obscenely and "going astray".

The attack led to fears an extremist "Hindu Taliban" was on the rise in India.

Gangadhar Kulkarni, an activist in the group, which is a radical wing of the Hindu nationalist movement, said: "If people celebrate the day despite our warning, then we will definitely attack them."

"Valentine's Day is definitely not Indian culture. We will not allow celebration of that day in any form," added Pramod Mutalik, the group's founder.

Samir Abu Hamza #fundie #sexist telegraph.co.uk

Self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza, who runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia in Melbourne, advised a male audience in Sydney in 2003 that they could force their wives to have sex and beat them if they were "disobedient".

In a lecture titled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", which has since been posted on the internet and viewed thousands of times, Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, "to shape them up", but should try not to draw blood or bruise them.

He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage.

"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn't got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape," Mr Hamza said.

"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?"

Juergen Gansel #racist telegraph.co.uk

n a statement headed "Africa conquers the White House," Juergen Gansel, a deputy in the Saxony state legislature from the far-right National Democratic Party of Germany, said multicultural America was seeking the destruction of "pure" national cultures.

Accusing Mr Obama of aiming to destroy the US's "white identity", Mr Gansel said: "A non-white America is a declaration of war on all people who believe an organically grown social order based on language and culture, history and heritage to be the essence of humanity."

Warning that "Barack Obama hides this declaration of war behind his pushy sunshine smile," Mr Gansel, whose party sympathises with neo-Nazi groups, said that Mr Obama's election was the result of "the American alliance of Jews and Negroes".

Klaus Emmerich #racist telegraph.co.uk

Klaus Emmerich, who until he retired was editor in chief of the Austrian broadcaster ORF's news and current affairs service, is a specialist in American politics and is still the station's top political commentator for US affairs.

But in coverage of the election in which Barack Obama was elected president he said: "I do not want the western world being directed by a black man. And if you say this is a racist remark, I say you are damn right it is."

Emmerich also said Obama's election was "a highly disturbing development" because "blacks are not as far advanced in the civilization process nor in their political progress."

Emmerich, 80, has worked as a reporter for 61 years and also said Obama is a "talented man, but a branded man" referring to his skin colour.

JT #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Let's see, if I choose not to be a Christian and there is no God, I die and nothing happens. If there is a God, I die and go to Hell.

If I choose to be a Christian and there is no God, I die and nothing happens. If there is a God, I die and have eternal life.

Which is the rational choice?

Sheikh Muhammad Munajid #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Mickey Mouse is a corrupting influence and must die, a Muslim cleric has declared.

...Sheikh Muhammad Munajid claimed the mouse is "one of Satan's soldiers" and makes everything it touches impure.

...The cleric, a former diplomat at the Saudi embassy in Washington DC, said that under Sharia, both household mice and their cartoon counterparts must be killed.

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