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Mark Colborne #racist #wingnut #psycho telegraph.co.uk

A ginger-haired right wing fanatic wanted to kill Princes Charles in the hope that flame haired Prince Harry would become king, a court heard.

Mark Colborne, 37, wanted to “put a bullet in Charles’ head” using a sniper rifle “for the Aryan people”.

Loner Colborne is accused of planning a cyanide attack on ethnic minorities because he felt “belittled” by being white and having ginger hair.

But he also discussed killing the heir to the throne in a notebook seized from his house, the Old Bailey heard.

In it, he wrote: “I don't want to be a serial killer. I'm more of an Anders Breivik (the Norwegian mass killer). I have left potential targets open.

"I was waiting for an opportunity to kill one of them. LET it be Prince Charles which would be good."

He added: "Take up a good position and put a bullet in Charles's head.

"He is protected but not too protected. I would sacrifice my life for that one shot. Kill Charles and William and Harry become king. Kill the tyrants."

In another note, he said: "The first chance I would get with a rifle if he crosses my path is to murder Prince Charles."

Colborne also ranted about the killers of black teenager Stephen Lawrence as they were sent to jail, prosecutor Annabel Darlow QC said.

In one entry dated 20 May 2012 he said: “I want to perform strategic coordinated different attacks on the systems tyrants and tyrants in and around the septic island.”

The following year he wrote about finding information about building “nerve gases which are as deadly as small-yield nukes”.

Colborne added: “'I'm stuck between committing mass destruction using a weapon of mass destruction and just targeting tyrants.

“I have often wanted to smear on toxin on their door handles that in time seeps through their skin and kills them but doing it to more than one neighbour would arouse suspicion.”

Colborne fantasised about transforming from a ginger-haired victim into a military terrorist, the court heard.

He wrote in his diary on 28 April 2013: "I want my legacy to say that I fought a one man war against the capitalist regime.

"I want them to see my transition from poor red-haired victimised minority that is constantly walked over to a fully transformed military terrorist striking at the hearts of the bigoted tyrannical rulers and of course the dark-haired, dark-eyes Caucasian race.

"I will be heard through terror."

The court had heard how Colborne, who suffered from depression and agoraphobia, trawled the Internet for explosives and poisons.

He went on to acquire chemicals over the Internet forming the essential ingredients for the deadly poison cyanide as well as stockpiling dust masks, metal filter funnels, plastic syringes and latex gloves, jurors were told.

But in June last year, his half brother Kevin Colborne alerted police after he uncovered the chemicals and papers detailing Colborne's racial hatred stashed amid the clutter of his room at the family home in Southampton in June last year.

The prosecutor said Colborne had a "troubled" childhood and saw himself as marginalised because he was a white, ginger-haired male.

Colborne denies preparing terrorist acts.

The trial continues.

Adil Khan #psycho #sexist telegraph.co.uk

A member of the Rochdale gang who raped and groomed girls as young as 13 has said he should not be deported because he had not committed “that big a crime”.

Adil Khan, 51, and fellow gang member, Qari Rauf, 52, are fighting deportation by the Home Office, where they would be sent to Pakistan following convictions for serious sexual offences against young girls.

Khan, speaking through a translator, told an immigration tribunal hearing on Tuesday: "We are not that big a criminal. We have not committed that big a crime. I'm innocent. I'm not committing any crime. The journalists made us out to be big criminals."

Khan, Rauf and two other men were among nine Asian men convicted of sex offences in the northern town against vulnerable girls in 2012.

From early 2008, girls as young as 12 were groomed with alcohol and drugs and gang-raped in the rooms above kebab shops. Police said that as many as 47 girls were groomed as part of the gang's activities.

Khan was sentenced to eight years in 2012 after being convicted of trafficking a child for sexual exploitation, but was released on licence four years later.

He also fathered a child with one of his victims, who was 13 years old. The two men were four of the gang with dual UK-Pakistani citizenship, and could therefore be stripped of their citizenship and deported, after Theresa May ruled it would be “conducive to the public good” for the men to leave the UK.

malcolmp #fundie #homophobia telegraph.co.uk

I told you Ekonomiques. Micro to be precise. You must be from the chattering classes - you are so obsessed with what is "correct" grammar

The problem with you people is thatt having blackmailed MPs to pass the gay marriage law and used the media to bully the general public you thought everything would go quiet.

It wont. Christians and Muslims will NEVER accept "gay" marriage and the fight will go on causing a deep schism in society. I believe an unfortunate side effect is that discrimination and attacks on gays will increase (not by Christians I hasten to add) and attempts to get the police to use more and more force wont work.

And you are failing to see that history is against you.
So called "gay rights" have been forced on the majority in Europe and the US but these countries are in decline. China is hostile to "gay rights". India is also hostile and will soon elect a Hindu nationalist prime minister who will be even more strident. Russian policies on homosexuality are spreading throughout the former soviet union. In Africa, draconian laws agaist homesxuality are spreading like wildfire. I dont think we need to mention the Middle East do we? South America will always be influenced by Catholic teaching and please dont think Pope Francis is going to alter church views on homosexuality. He is just
doing some good PR to take the heat of the child abuse scandals.

All in all, the influential countries of the future are very much against the Western idea of gay rights and Western actions are making things worse not better..

Dont get me wrong, I disapprove strongly of what African countries are doing. The point is I am a relative moderate on these issues but the more the UK/USA pushes
these countries the more likelihood there is of some group of nutters putting forward draconian and outrageous laws.

With homosexuality the motto should be "discretion in exchange for tolerance" not "in your face" gay rights

Anders Behring Breivik #wingnut #sexist telegraph.co.uk

As for girlfriends; I do get the occasional lead, or the occasional girl making a move, especially now a day [sic] as I'm fit like hell and feel great. But I'm trying to avoid relationships as it would only complicate my plans and it may jeopardize my operation.


Human males are imperfect by default as they are plagued by their biological needs. Nevertheless, screwing around outside of marriage is after all a relatively small sin compared to the huge amounts of grace I am about to generate with my martyrdom operation and it is essential that you do what is required to keep moral and motivation at a high level

Julie Bindel #transphobia telegraph.co.uk

Misognyistic trans activists have suffered a huge defeat
Women did not fight for single-sex hospital wards based on “gender identity”. Thank goodness the NHS is finally waking up to this

Finally, the NHS is putting women’s safety first. Steve Barclay, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, is set to announce proposals that would see trans women banned from female wards, and ensure people have intimate care provided by doctors of their own sex.

It is nothing short of a disgrace that trans activists managed to reverse the female-only policy in the first place.
[...]
Following our successful feminist campaign for women-only wards decades ago, things progressed as they should have, with the safety and dignity of the patients paramount. Had men’s rights activists at the time protested against single-sex facilities, demanding the “right” to access our space, they would have immediately been identified as suspect, and we all would have ascribed an ulterior motive to their demands. It would have been plain to see that these demands were about easy access to vulnerable females.
Why, then, did the NHS so readily capitulate to trans activists claiming that some men are “really” women, based on an inner feeling, without considering the obvious risks such a scheme would pose? That bad men might make use of well-intentioned ideas should surely have occurred to someone.
The fact that this policy is at last changing shows that the NHS might just be starting to realise the significance of biology. In doing so, it needs to sort out its language. Feminists like me did not fight for single-sex prisons, hospital wards, rape crisis centres, bathrooms and changing rooms, so that we could share a “gender identity”. We did so because of the tsunami of sexual violence women and girls endure at the hands of men – sexual violence based on biological reality, not gender identity.
Trans ideology, and the capture of so many of our institutions, has led to an almost complete destruction of the rights women won, following hard, hostile battles, to keep ourselves safe from predatory, opportunistic sex offenders.
[...]

Disgruntled_Englishman #fundie #homophobia telegraph.co.uk

[On the Irish referendum approving same sex marriage]

Sad news - but to Christians who believe the the Bible, entirely expected.

This is the time of the homosexuals, a time for them to dance, and rejoice, and gleefully trample upon every Christian precept, every moral value, and every vestige of decency.

It is, in fact, the time foretold by Jesus Christ - when the days of Noah would be seen once again on earth.

It's salutary to remember that in 'the days of Noah' homosexual 'marriage' was sanctioned by society.

This was their crowning iniquity - the final straw that brought upon them the destruction of the flood.

Such a sin has never been seen since that time - not in any society, culture, or civilisation. Ancient societies may have tolerated, even encouraged, homosexual liaisons - but homosexual 'marriage' was never sanctioned by the state - not once, not in any society.

Until now.

Speaking of the conditions that would pertain in the 'last days', Jesus said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be before the coming of the Son of man."

Thus He spoke - and thus it is.

There is great hope in these events - if these things have come to pass, then His return cannot be far away.

There is a storm approaching for Christians, a time of persecution that has never been seen before - nothing in history can compare to the terror that will be unleashed upon all who cling to Christ, to His word, and to His promises.

It cannot be stopped - and God forbid that it should be!, for this is the fulfilment of prophecy, and the dark hour before those who are faithful are finally redeemed and taken home.

All Christians can do is pray for the strength to endure, and to cling to promise of a crown of life to those who remain steadfast.

As for the homosexuals - let them laugh, let them caper, let than parade their iniquities without shame and without conscience.

This time is very rapidly approaching when it will be abundantly clear who has chosen wisely or unwisely.

Various academics and Tom O’Carroll #fundie telegraph.co.uk

"Paedophilic interest is natural and normal for human males,” said the presentation. “At least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children — Normal males are aroused by children.” Some yellowing tract from the Seventies or early Eighties, era of abusive celebrities and the infamous PIE, the Paedophile Information Exchange? No. Anonymous commenters on some underground website? No again. The statement that paedophilia is “natural and normal” was made not three decades ago but last July. It was made not in private but as one of the central claims of an academic presentation delivered, at the invitation of the organisers, to many of the key experts in the field at a conference held by the University of Cambridge.

Other presentations included “Liberating the paedophile: a discursive analysis,” and “Danger and difference: the stakes of hebephilia.” Hebephilia is the sexual preference for children in early puberty, typically 11 to 14-year-olds. Another attendee, and enthusiastic participant from the floor, was one Tom O’Carroll, a multiple child sex offender, long-time campaigner for the legalisation of sex with children and former head of the Paedophile Information Exchange. “Wonderful!” he wrote on his blog afterwards. “It was a rare few days when I could feel relatively popular!” Last week, after the conviction of Rolf Harris, the report into Jimmy Savile and claims of an establishment cover-up to protect a sex-offending minister in Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet, Britain went into a convulsion of anxiety about child abuse in the Eighties. But unnoticed amid the furore is a much more current threat: attempts, right now, in parts of the academic establishment to push the boundaries on the acceptability of child sex.

A key factor in what happened all those decades ago in the dressing rooms of the BBC, the wards of the NHS and, allegedly, the corridors of power was not just institutional failings or establishment “conspiracies”, but a climate of far greater intellectual tolerance of practices that horrify today. With the Pill, the legalisation of homosexuality and shrinking taboos against premarital sex, the Seventies was an era of quite sudden sexual emancipation. Many liberals, of course, saw through PIE’s cynical rhetoric of “child lib”. But to others on the Left, sex by or with children was just another repressive boundary to be swept away – and some of the most important backing came from academia.

In 1981, a respectable publisher, Batsford, published Perspectives on Paedophilia, edited by Brian Taylor, a sociology lecturer at Sussex University, to challenge what Dr Taylor’s introduction called the “prejudice” against child sex. Disturbingly, the book was aimed at “social workers, community workers, probation officers and child care workers”. The public, wrote Dr Taylor, “generally thinks of paedophiles as sick or evil men who lurk around school playgrounds in the hope of attempting unspecified beastliness with unsuspecting innocent children”. That, he reassured readers, was merely a “stereotype”, both “inaccurate and unhelpful”, which flew in the face of the “empirical realities of paedophile behaviour”. Why, most adult-child sexual relationships occurred in the family!

The perspectives of most, though not all, the contributors, appeared strongly pro-paedophile. At least two were members of PIE and at least one, Peter Righton, (who was, incredibly, director of education at the National Institute for Social Work) was later convicted of child sex crimes. But from the viewpoint of today, the fascinating thing about Perspectives on Paedophilia is that at least two of its contributors are still academically active and influential. Ken Plummer is emeritus professor of sociology at Essex University, where he has an office and teaches courses, the most recent scheduled for last month. “The isolation, secrecy, guilt and anguish of many paedophiles,” he wrote in Perspectives on Paedophilia, “are not intrinsic to the phenomen[on] but are derived from the extreme social repression placed on minorities —

“Paedophiles are told they are the seducers and rapists of children; they know their experiences are often loving and tender ones. They are told that children are pure and innocent, devoid of sexuality; they know both from their own experiences of childhood and from the children they meet that this is not the case.” As recently as 2012, Prof Plummer published on his personal blog a chapter he wrote in another book, Male Intergenerational Intimacy, in 1991. “As homosexuality has become slightly less open to sustained moral panic, the new pariah of 'child molester’ has become the latest folk devil,” he wrote. “Many adult paedophiles say that boys actively seek out sex partners — 'childhood’ itself is not a biological given but an historically produced social object.”

Prof Plummer confirmed to The Sunday Telegraph that he had been a member of PIE in order to “facilitate” his research. He said: “I would never want any of my work to be used as a rationale for doing 'bad things’ – and I regard all coercive, abusive, exploitative sexuality as a 'bad thing’. I am sorry if it has impacted anyone negatively this way, or if it has encouraged this.” However, he did not answer when asked if he still held the views he expressed in the Eighties and Nineties. A spokesman for Essex University claimed Prof Plummer’s work “did not express support for paedophilia” and cited the university’s charter which gave academic staff “freedom within the law to put forward controversial and unpopular opinions without placing themselves in jeopardy”.

Graham Powell is one of the country’s most distinguished psychologists, a past president of the British Psychological Society and a current provider of psychology support services to the Serious Organised Crime Agency, the National Crime Squad, the Metropolitan Police, Kent Police, Essex Police and the Internet Watch Foundation. In Perspectives on Paedophilia, however, he co-authored a chapter which stated: “In the public mind, paedophile attention is generally assumed to be traumatic and to have lasting and wholly deleterious consequences for the victim. The evidence that we have considered here does not support this view — we need to ask not why are the effects of paedophile action so large, but why so small.”

The chapter does admit that there were “methodological problems” with the studies the authors relied on which “leave our conclusions somewhat muted”. Dr Powell told The Sunday Telegraph last week that “what I wrote was completely wrong and it is a matter of deep regret that it could in any way have made things more difficult [for victims]”. He said: “The literature [scientific evidence] was so poor in 1981, people just didn’t realise what was going on. There was a lack of understanding at the academic level.” Dr Powell said he had never been a member of PIE.

In other academic quarters, with rather fewer excuses, that lack of understanding appears to be reasserting itself. The Cambridge University conference, on July 4-5 last year, was about the classification of sexuality in the DSM, a standard international psychiatric manual used by the police and courts. After a fierce battle in the American Psychiatric Association (APA), which produces it, a proposal to include hebephilia as a disorder in the new edition of the manual has been defeated. The proposal arose because puberty in children has started ever earlier in recent decades and as a result, it was argued, the current definition of paedophilia – pre-pubertal sexual attraction – missed out too many young people. Ray Blanchard, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto, who led the APA’s working group on the subject, said that unless some other way was found of encompassing hebephilia in the new manual, that was “tantamount to stating that the APA’s official position is that the sexual preference for early pubertal children is normal”.

Prof Blanchard was in turn criticised by a speaker at the Cambridge conference, Patrick Singy, of Union College, New York, who said hebephilia would be abused as a diagnosis to detain sex offenders as “mentally ill” under US “sexually violent predator” laws even after they had completed their sentences. But perhaps the most controversial presentation of all was by Philip Tromovitch, a professor at Doshisha University in Japan, who stated in a presentation on the “prevalence of paedophilia” that the “majority of men are probably paedophiles and hebephiles” and that “paedophilic interest is normal and natural in human males”. O’Carroll, the former PIE leader, was thrilled, and described on his blog how he joined Prof Tromovitch and a colleague for drinks after the conference. “The conversation flowed most agreeably, along with the drinks and the beautiful River Cam,” he said.

It’s fair to say the Tromovitch view does not represent majority academic opinion. It’s likely, too, that some of the academic protests against the “stigmatisation” of paedophiles are as much a backlash against the harshness of sex offender laws as anything else. Finally, of course, academic inquiry is supposed to question conventional wisdom and to deal rigorously with the evidence, whether or not the conclusions it leads you to are popular. Even so, there really is now no shortage of evidence about the harm done by child abuse. In the latest frenzy about the crimes of the past, it’s worth watching whether we could, in the future, go back to the intellectual climate which allowed them.

Palfreman #fundie #sexist telegraph.co.uk

Last year my wife split up with me. Not my doing at all. Now she has a meal ticket for life, all my money and assets are lost, I've no control over the children at all and only see them at the weekends. I am a highly productive high earner and I've been utterly bankrupted by this

Now, I've spent some time in the Gulf, and I know how it works in Muslim country. And it is much better for men. You retain custody of the children. Divorce is simple and cheap (compared to the thousands I am still spending on lawyers) - just say "I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee" to her. Then she has to go back to her parents.

Islamic family law is streets ahead of us. It has none of the problems that we have, where women are directly bribed to break up with their husbands. Nor is the capital of the most productive people in our society, professional men, stolen and ruined - we keep it and carry on investing. There is a certain financial loss to women in divorce.

Also, frankly the thing about being able to take second wives makes things much more convenient. It is common for a professional man to want to take a second wife, especially when his first wife is beyond childbearing years. We do too. Just we have to go there awful rigmarole of divorce and the destruction of the assets we worked our whole life to build up. Not so with the muslims. So long as you can support a second wife you can, leaving the existing wife in place and not disrupting anything at all. It is much better.

I'm quite convinced that family law in Western Christian countries will lead to Islamisation. For me, it would have been much better. I could live with not eating pork for that - I much prefer beef and lamb anyway.

Samir Abu Hamza #fundie #sexist telegraph.co.uk

Self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza, who runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia in Melbourne, advised a male audience in Sydney in 2003 that they could force their wives to have sex and beat them if they were "disobedient".

In a lecture titled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", which has since been posted on the internet and viewed thousands of times, Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, "to shape them up", but should try not to draw blood or bruise them.

He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage.

"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn't got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape," Mr Hamza said.

"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?"

Jordan Peterson #dunning-kruger #pratt #quack #transphobia #wingnut telegraph.co.uk

We are sacrificing our children on the altar of a brutal, far-Left ideology

The medical profession is crumbling in response to radical transgender activists

The Hippocratic Oath has been replaced by a delusion: a belief that can be summarised as ‘by blocking the puberty of children, and then surgically altering them, we are only restoring what is theirs by right. A child’s feelings are the final arbiters of their reproductive destiny, and any attempt to contest their gender identity risks increasing their proclivity for suicide’.

Lies. Lies. Lies. Then butchery.

Psychologists have also surrendered to this groupthink.

These guidelines first read like a manual of indoctrination written by Marxist ideologues, and second like a document designed to undermine and destroy the practice of therapy itself.

I don’t understand this radical postmodern definition of gender, one that rests on a person’s “deeply felt” or “inherent sense” of being one sex over another, regardless of biology.

Psychologically it is indisputably the case that a non-trivial proportion of males have a feminine temperament (which essentially means that they experience higher levels of negative emotions such as anxiety and the analogs of pain – grief, frustration, disappointment, depression) and are more agreeable (compassionate/polite) than typical males, and equally true that a non-trivial proportion of females have a masculine temperament. But this does not change how, objectively, professionals should measure a person’s gender.

Psychologists are also now adopting the simple-minded and anything-but-revolutionary doctrine of “intersectionality” without question.

And, by the way: it will definitely be the case that a disproportionate number of children “freed” from their gender confusion would have grown up to be physically intact and fully functional gay adults. Need I point out that this unpalatable fact makes a mockery of any claim that the extended alphabet world of the LGBTQ+ coterie constitutes a homogeneous and unified “community.”

We have crossed the line from ideological possession to active malevolence – and we are multiplying our sin by attributing our appalling actions to “compassion”. Heaven help us. Truly.

Supporters of Jeremy Corbyn #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[Jo Cox MP was murdered in June]

Half of the female shadow cabinet ministers who resigned over Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership have faced death threats or warnings of violent attack, the Telegraph has learned.

Six of the dozen senior women who stepped down in the last month have faced threats of physical attack or violence, while many of the others have received intimidating messages online.

The danger from some threats has been deemed so realistic that police have been called in, while others have installed extra security measures amid growing concerns about their safety from relatives.

One former front-bencher was told she would “get it like Jo Cox did”, another was told to kill herself and a third was warned a queue of people would be outside her home “waiting to rape” her.

The threats have been so concerning that Rosie Winterton, Labour’s Chief Whip, has raised it at a shadow cabinet meeting.

The party’s ruling body has also suspended all normal constituency party meetings until September amid fears of hostility growing during the leadership contest this summer.

There are now calls from moderates to supporters of Jeremy Corbyn - who has also had death threats – to lower the tone of their rhetoric. The Labour leader’s office insists he has consistently spoken out against all forms of abuse.

This newspaper has established that half of the dozen Labour MPs who resigned from Mr Corbyn’s shadow cabinet in the days after the EU referendum have received messages warning of violence.

They range from actual acts of violence – Angela Eagle’s constituency office had a brick thrown through its window – to veiled threats in online messages: one MP was told “I hope you choke”.

Luciana Berger, the former shadow health minister, received an email saying “you are going to get it like Jo Cox did” with a photograph of a knife. She has contacted the police.

Lucy Powell received a message telling her to kill herself after announcing she would leave the frontbench over frustrations with the leadership.

One female MP and former frontbencher who asked not to be named said they had been told a “queue of refugees” would be waiting to rape them at home, while another had a specific threat of violence.

Other women MPs who stepped down said that while they had no threats of violence they received intimidating or bullying messages. Often the messages followed appearances on broadcasts criticising the leadership.

Lilian Greenwood, the former shadow Transport secretary who left last month, told The Telegraph: "The tone of the debate over the future of Labour Party has deteriorated dramatically over the course of the last year.

Burmese "Military Regime" #fundie telegraph.co.uk

The military regime in Burma is intent on wiping out Christianity in the country, according to claims in a secret document believed to have been leaked from a government ministry. Entitled "Programme to destroy the Christian religion in Burma", the incendiary memo contains point by point instructions on how to drive Christians out of the state.

The text, which opens with the line "There shall be no home where the Christian religion is practised", calls for anyone caught evangelising to be imprisoned. It advises: "The Christian religion is very gentle – identify and utilise its weakness."

Its discovery follows widespread reports of religious persecution, with churches burnt to the ground, Christians forced to convert to the state religion, Buddhism, and their children barred from school.

Asghar Bukhari #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

A founding member of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee UK urged people to share his bizarre Facebook post about a shoe that went missing while he slept.

However, while the post was indeed shared, hundreds of times, Asghar Bukhari did not get the response he might have intended.

Within hours, the hashtag #Mossadstolemyshoe was trending on Twitter, in a reference to the Israeli counter terrorism unit. However, Mr Bukhari claimed the fact that he was being mocked amounted to “intimidation of Muslim speakers” – for which he blamed Zionists.

He posted his original message on Facebook on Friday along with an image of a boy wearing just one shoe. It was headlined: “Are Zionists trying to intimidate me?”

Mr Bukhari wrote: “Someone came into my home yesterday, while I was asleep. I don’t know how they got in, but they didn't break in - the only thing they took was one shoe.”

The campaigner claimed “they left one shoe behind to let me know someone had been there". He added: “Of course I can't prove anything and that’s part of the intimidation. The game is simple - to make me feel vulnerable in my own home.”

He went on to write: “It is not the first time I have heard this happening. I have had another Muslim leader call me a year or so ago, in tears - she told me they had been coming into her house and re-arranging things - just to let her know they had been there.”

He suggested: “Share this widely, for if it is happening to me, I am sure it happening to many, many others who have not exposed it.”

Exclusive Brethren #fundie telegraph.co.uk

As 'Son of Rambow' prepares to wow cinema audiences, Alex Hannaford examines the Plymouth Brethren, the movement whose stringent rules shape the life of the hero. Most of us can recall the thrill of seeing our first action-packed film. For Will Proudlock, the boy hero of the new Garth Jennings movie Son of Rambow, the effect is intensified, as his illicit viewing of a Sylvester Stallone film is his first sight of a moving picture.

Will belongs to a Plymouth Brethren family, and listening to music, watching television or seeing films are all forbidden to members of the reclusive religious sect. Seeing Rambo is therefore a life-changing experience for Will. The Brethren were not in Jennings's original script for the film, set in the 1980s and based on the director's own Essex childhood, and which proved a smash hit at the Sundance Film Festival. But both Jennings and producer Nick Goldsmith knew something was missing.

"It's really hard to show the impact that movies can have on a kid," Jennings says, "but I lived next door to a Plymouth Brethren family for 25 years, and by moving the story next door it captured the qualities we were looking for."

Jennings has not set out to paint a bad picture of the Brethren. "No one is evil in the film, but religion is one of the things that holds this character back. "Although we'd found our plot, it also opened up a can of worms because the Plymouth Brethren is a very secret society. Although I lived next door to them, they kept to themselves and it took a lot of investigation to find out more."

The Plymouth Brethren was started by law student John Nelson Darby in the early 1800s after he broke away from the Anglican Church in Ireland. A gathering in Plymouth, Devon, in 1832, gave the sect its name, but 10 years later, the group itself split into 'Exclusive Brethren' and 'Open Brethren' - the former being much stricter.

A relative of Jennings's taught at an Exclusive Brethren school and the director used him to build a clearer picture of life behind closed Brethren doors. "I found out loads of little details," Jennings says. "The Exclusive Brethren shun pretty much everything that could be a distraction from serving God, including television, film, literature and pop music. They are not whacky, but they do take their beliefs very seriously and follow a strict moral code.

"When I was growing up in the 1980s, video and computers hadn't saturated our lives like they have now. It must be much harder to 'opt out' these days. You'd be constantly battling against the evils the rest of us indulge in.

"There are quite a lot of ex-Brethren, casualties I suppose, families that have been pulled apart. Once you've left that's it: if your family are still in the Brethren you're not allowed contact with them." One example is David (not his real name), 56, who left the Exclusive Brethren in the early 1970s after a new leader began introducing stricter rules. The leader's behaviour also raised alarm bells.

"In my first 10 years the Brethren were a happy group," David says. "Friends and relatives who were non-Brethren were allowed to stay with us and we could eat with them, but in the early 1960s an American named Jim Taylor forced his way to the top and began 'separation'." Separation meant sect members must keep away from anyone who didn't follow the Exclusive teaching.

They weren't allowed to make friends or eat ("break bread") with anyone outside the church. "Suddenly, we had to cut off any contact with our cousins," David continues. "They were dead to us. There was no cinema, no joining in with prayers at regular schools, no going round to friends' houses. It was all to do with the orders of Jim Taylor.

"In 1970, Taylor started sleeping with another sect wife. He claimed he was a pure man, but there was an Exclusive Brethren gathering in Aberdeen and he appeared on stage obviously drunk. After that there was a split in the group." In the following two years, about 8,000 Exclusives left, but a large number remained.

"My wife and I left, but my eldest brother and some uncles and aunts stayed and cut off contact with us," says David. "Taylor effectively radicalised the Brethren. It was always strict, but he made it worse. "My eldest brother rarely talks to me, though we live in the same town. At my father's funeral, last year, he stood 100 yards away from everyone else. If I see him in the street and he's on his own, he'll raise his hand. If his wife is with him, he'll ignore me. I'm just sad for them. They're missing out on so much."

Today, the leader of the Exclusive Brethren is an Australian, Bruce Hales, who inherited the job from his father, John. There are now about 46,000 Exclusive members worldwide. In the early 1990s, questionnaires were sent to 300 former Exclusives around the world, 200 of which were returned completed. Of these, 76 per cent felt a sense of loss in leaving close friends behind. Half were plagued by upsetting memories of their days in the Exclusives.

A spokesperson for Peebs.net - an information website set up to 'investigate and report the truth behind the Exclusive Brethren' - says: "We've been following Son of Rambow since it was shown at the Sundance Film Festival?— shame no active Exclusive Brethren will be allowed to see the movie." That's one of the reasons why Jennings isn't worried about a potential Brethren backlash. "I don't feel conniving about it, but it is a point. They'll never see it.

"Besides, you could see our film as a statement on the corrupting power of television. I see it as something completely different - that by shutting people off from certain things, you're not really educating them. "While it may be right for some people, it can't be right for everyone and it certainly isn't right for the boy in the film."

Freddy Potts #fundie telegraph.co.uk

An Oxford College has banned the Christian Union from its freshers’ fair on the grounds that it would be “alienating” for students of other religions, and constitute a “micro-aggression”.

The organiser of Balliol’s fair argued Christianity’s historic use as “an excuse for homophobia and certain forms of neo-colonialism” meant that students might feel “unwelcome” in their new college if the Christian Union had a stall.

Freddy Potts, vice-president of Balliol’s Junior Common Room (JCR) committee, said that if a representative from the Christian Union (CU) attended the fair, it could cause "potential harm" to freshers.

Mr Potts, writing on behalf of the JCR's welfare committee, told the CU representative at Balliol, that their "sole concern is that the presence of the CU alone may alienate incoming students”.

In email correspondence, seen by The Daily Telegraph, he went on: “This sort of alienation or micro-aggression is regularly dismissed as not important enough to report, especially when there is little to no indication that other students or committee members may empathise, and inevitably leads to further harm of the already most vulnerable and marginalised groups.

“Historically, Christianity’s influence on many marginalised communities has been damaging in its methods of conversion and rules of practice, and is still used in many places as an excuse for homophobia and certain forms of neo-colonialism."

He said that barring the Christian Union from the fair “may be a way of helping to avoid making any students feel initially unwelcome within Balliol”.

Initially he said the JCR committee wanted the fair to be a “secular space”, explaining that since he "couldn't guarantee every major belief system" would have stalls at the the fair, students from other religions may "suffer" if their faith is not represented.

“Many students, especially students of colour and of other faiths, may already feel alienated and vulnerable in Oxford, a university with a reputation for racism and lack of diversity, and a city with barely any appropriate places of worship for non-Christians," he said.

“Hopefully, as people of faith, you may be able to empathise with this, and we ask you to consider from a place of compassion the potential harm to those freshers who are already severely and harmfully disadvantaged.”

However, Mr Potts - who was part of Balliol’s winning University Challenge team - later conceded that he would allow a “multi-faith” stall at the fair, with information about various university religious societies. Student representatives of the CU were barred from attending in person and distributing leaflets.

The move sparked a backlash among students, with others within the College criticising it as a “violation of free speech”.

The JCR passed a motion on Sunday evening condemning the JCR committees for “barring the participation of specific faith-based organizations”.

The motion said the ban was a "violation of free speech, a violation of religious freedom, and sets dangerous precedents regarding the relationship between specific faiths and religious freedom".

Dr Joanna Williams, a university lecturer and author of Academic Freedom in an Age of Conformity, said the decision to ban the Christian Union was “completely bizarre”.

“It is intolerance being exercised in the name of inclusion,” she said. “They are saying: ‘Your religious society is not welcome here’. Essentially they are saying that the Christian Union is not allowed to recruit new members.”

Professor Peter Wadhams #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

A Cambridge Professor has made the astonishing claim that three scientists investigating the melting of Arctic ice may have been assassinated within the space of a few months.

Professor Peter Wadhams said he feared being labelled a “looney” over his suspicion that the deaths of the scientists were more than just an ‘extraordinary’ coincidence.

But he insisted the trio could have been murdered and hinted that the oil industry or else sinister government forces might be implicated.

The three scientists he identified - Seymour Laxon and Katherine Giles, both climate change scientists at University College London, and Tim Boyd of the Scottish Association for marine Science - all died within the space of a few months in early 2013.

Professor laxon fell down a flight of stairs at a New year’s Eve party at a house in Essex while Dr Giles died when she was in collision with a lorry when cycling to work in London. Dr Boyd is thought to have been struck by lightning while walking in Scotland.

Prof Wadhams said that in the weeks after Prof Laxon’s death he believed he was targeted by a lorry which tried to force him off the road. He reported the incident to the police.

Asked if he thought hitmen might have been behind the deaths, Prof Wadhams, who is Professor of ocean physics at Cambridge University, told The Telegraph: “Yes. I do believe assassins possibly murdered them but I can see that I would be thought of as a looney for believing this.

UK Ministry of Defence Government Officials #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

Government officials believe aliens may visit Earth and suggest harnessing UFO technology for UK defences, files say.

Documents from the Ministry of Defence classified archives show staff believed aliens could visit for “military reconnaissance”, “scientific” research or “tourism”.

In a 1995 briefing now published by the National Archives, a desk officer said the purpose of reported alien craft sightings “needs to be established as a matter of priority”, adding there did not appear to be “hostile intent”.

The unnamed official said it was “essential that we start with open minds”, explaining “what is scientific ‘fact’ today may not be true tomorrow”.

Clarifying he did not “talk to little green men every night”, he said: “We have a remit that we have never satisfied. That is, we do not now (sic) if UFOs exist. If they do exist, we do not know what they are, their purpose or if they pose a threat to the UK. If the sightings are of devices not of the earth then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority. There has been no apparent hostile intent and other possibilities are: 1) Military reconnaissance; 2) Scientific; 3) Tourism.”

He added that “if reports are taken at face value” they showed extraterrestrial vehicles had “a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy.”

Thus, he suggested, “we could use this technology, if it exists”.

[...]

Papers also show the existence of a "Flying Saucer Working Party" within government during 1950-52.

In 1998, one worried member of staff annotated the file to say: “Oh dear! This makes our 'no interest' in [flying saucers] look suspect. I know not now but maybe then."

Unnamed men #fundie telegraph.co.uk

A waitress in a cafe in central Nice has filed a police complaint after she was allegedly assaulted by two men because she refused to “stop serving alcohol” on the first day of the holy month of Ramadan.

The alleged beating in the French Riviera town historically famed for its sun, palm-fringed beach front and quality of life, has prompted a heated political debate over whether the country is increasingly becoming prey to “religious fundamentalism and ghettoised communities”.

The issue has become increasingly fraught less than a year before presidential elections and just six months after Islamist attacks in Paris killed 130.

The incident took place less than a week before football fans descend on the sun-kissed town for Sunday’s Euro 2016 football match between Poland and Northern Ireland.

The waitress, a French 30-year-old of Tunisian origin, said she was serving drinks at Monday lunch on the terrace of the Vitis Café on Nice’s rue Lamartine, near the rue d’Anglais, when two men started haranguing her, insulting the young woman because she was serving alcoholic beverages to customers.

“I was all alone in the bar when two passers-by suddenly appeared. They pointed to the bottles of alcohol behind the bar, then one of them told me in Arabic: ‘You should be ashamed of yourself serving alcohol in the Ramadan period.’

Ramadan traditionally begins the morning after the sighting of the crescent moon. Marking the divine revelation received by Prophet Mohammed, the month sees Muslim faithful abstain from eating, drinking, smoking and having sex from dawn to dusk.

They break the fast with a meal known as iftar and before dawn have a second opportunity to eat and drink during suhur. The month is followed by the Eid al-Fitr festival.

The waitress said one of the two men then shouted: “If I was God, I would have hung you.”

Unfazed by his threatening behaviour, the waitress shot back: “You’re not God to judge me.”

The men launched into a tirade, calling her a “dirty whore” and left the cafe in a hurry. A few seconds later, however, the venue's CCTV footage reportedly shows the two men turn round abruptly and one of them rush towards her and violently slap the waitress in the face, knocking her to the floor.

“The whole scene was recorded by the security cameras that I transferred to the police,” said the bar’s owner, Nacim.

In shock, the waitress didn’t phone the police straight away and instead contacted the owner.

He persuaded her to file a legal complaint for “voluntary violence”. The two men have reportedly been identified. One of them is known to be an illegal migrant who is a notoriously threatening figure in the district, but both are currently at large.

drstar #racist telegraph.co.uk

Most people who're born into an unmixed ethnicity suffer no significant ill-effects. Yes, closer inbreeding would incur serious risks from recessive traits. Yes, incest should be discouraged for medical reasons. OK, that's a fairly rational and bias-free view.

However to go from that point to the deliberate celebration and encouragement of multiracial breeding is a wild and fallacious leap. Yes, multiracial couples are becoming more common, but that may be due to the disproportionate fertility or lower self-control of people at a certain end of the socio-economic scale. A symptom of the Welfare State and overcrowded urban demographics?

Most normal people feel no sexual attraction to people of differing race. We see that the races are equally human, but developing an attraction would require as hard an effort as turning from straight to gay (or vice versa). We're naturally drawn to opposite-sex mates who're of a matching background, appearance and brightness. Are we now supposed to suppress our nature, deliberately pick mixed partners, and submit to a politically correct campaign for xenophile blending?

manufactureconcept #racist telegraph.co.uk

There is no hope for the English race. Mass immigration is making them a minority in their own country in record time.

Furthermore, white English women have taken to race mixing with an enthusiasm unparalleled in most countries and seem to delight in destroying their own race, courtesy of the nasty anti-English media which promotes such relations, always immigrant man and white English woman, as desirable.

Avoided Cranium #racist telegraph.co.uk

[On King Richard III's reburial in Leicester]

Thousands turned up to join in a Leicester based social event, with an eye to our national heritage and history. But the crowds are white. In a town with 50% BME population, what does this say about assimilation and the unwillingness of half the town's population to get involved?

finanzier #racist telegraph.co.uk

[On forthcoming EU referendum]

"The mayor of Paris has said she wants to open a migrant welcome centre in the French capital, to help migrants either seek asylum or in “quite a few cases” try to reach Britain".

So, as I have said before , Briton is officially the dumping ground of Europe .

Vote NO and save yourselves from Race Replacement.

Faizrakhman Satarov #fundie telegraph.co.uk

70 sect members found living underground in Russia

A reclusive sect that literally went underground to stop contact with the outside world kept 27 children in dark and unheated cells, many of them for more than a decade, prosecutors said Wednesday. The children have been freed and the parents charged with child abuse.
Some of the children, aged between 1 and 17, have never seen daylight, health officials said. The sect's 83-year-old founder Faizrakhman Satarov, who declared himself a Muslim prophet in contradiction with the principles of Islam, has also been charged with negligence, Irina Petrova, deputy prosecutor in the provincial capital of Kazan, told The Associated Press.
No members of the sect, who call themselves "muammin" after the Arabic term that means "believers," have been arrested, she said.
The children were discovered last week when police searched the sect grounds as part of a probe into the recent killing of a top Tatarstan Muslim cleric, an attack local officials blame on radical Islamist groups that have mushroomed in the oil-rich, Volga River province.
Satarov, a former top imam in the neighboring province of Bashkortostan, declared his house outside Kazan an independent Islamic state. He ordered some 70 followers to live in cells they dug under the three-story building topped by a small minaret with a tin crescent moon. Only a few sect members were allowed to leave the premises to work as traders at a local market, Russian media reported.
The children have been placed in local hospitals for observation and will temporarily live in an orphanage, pediatrician Tatyana Moroz said in televised remarks.

manufactureconcept #racist telegraph.co.uk

The fundamental problem with England is that its elite largely absolutely detest the native people of this country and are full of nothing but contempt for them. They see the native white English as the absolute worst race on earth and want nothing but their total replacement by immigrants, any immigrants from anywhere. Just as long as they are not native white English.

In any other country an elite that treacherous and that destructive to their country would have been overthrown or at the very least heavily resisted, but in England they have been able to destroy this country almost unchallenged and staggering many native white English people themselves are so conditioned by far-left mainstream media propaganda that they actively support the destruction of their own race and culture.

agenda21 #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

The criminal cartel (Council for Foreign Relations, NeoCons) that has taken control of the United States, supported by their gangster pals in Israel, London, Berlin, etc. etc., have decided to end all viable Nation-States in the Middle-East.
Any Nation that opposes Israel or refuses to follow US dictates is to be reduced to 'failed state status'. Like Iraq and Libya, Syria is earmarked for perpetual poverty, squalour, violence, mayhem and abject misery, under the boot of the Western controlled warlords in ISIL and the like.
The Syrian people, with the support of Russia, have, so far, managed to withstand the onslaught of the Western trained, armed and funded 'terrorist' thugs. Should al-Assad be toppled, Iran is next in line for the 'treatment'.

Despite the disgusting propaganda of the vast bulk of the MSM, and the frantic efforts of the 'useful idiots' and idiotic trolls. Most of the people in Britain and America do not support the criminal actions, and intentions, of the cretins in power.

ThereisaGod #fundie telegraph.co.uk

As traditional religions (or some of them) die, we are not left with no religion we are left with the state-imposed cultural Marxism (and its attendant political correctness) that already dominates our society.

The Frankfurt School, a group of Jewish thinkers that dreamed up this system with the purpose of creating global governance under a single central bank, studiously applied the principle of divide-and-rule to every aspect of human affairs. They recommended, amongst other things:

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family
Anything familiar here?
http://www.whale.to/c/frankfur...

Nasreen Khan #racist telegraph.co.uk

Serious concerns have been raised over Labour's shortlisting of a councillor who has been accused of making anti-Semitic comments.

The Party was plunged into a fresh anti-Semitism row after it emerged that Nasreen Khan claimed that Jews “have reaped the rewards of playing victims” and that there are “worse people than Hitler in this world”.

Miss Khan, a former member of George Galloway’s Respect Party, has been selected for a shortlist of candidates to stand in a safe Labour council seat in Bradford at next year’s local elections. A final decision is expected to be made on Friday.

She said her comments, which were made on Facebook in 2012, were “inappropriate and unacceptable”.

Writing under a video titled “The Palestine you need to know”, she said: “It’s such a shame that the history teachers in our school never taught us this but they are the first to start brainwashing us and our children into thinking the bad guy was Hitler. What have the Jews done good in this world?”

When questioned about the comment, she had added: “No, I’m not a Nazi, I’m an ordinary British Muslim that had an opinion and put it across. We have worse people than Hitler in this world now."

When she faced further online criticism she said: “Stop beating a dead horse. The Jews have reaped the rewards of playing victims. Enough is enough!”

Minstrel Boy #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Femnazis require cheap oil to ensure they get to drive about independently and get to the office on time. Must not upset the source. If it could be arranged, they could be sent en masse to Saudi Arabia, starting with Barbara Lerner-Spectre. No chance of that happening. They have a ready made audience of wimps giving them airtime in the West.

Sri Ram Sena group #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Militants belonging to a group called Sri Ram Sena, who claim to be custodians of Indian culture, said Valentine's Day is un-Indian.

The threat comes days after the group's activists stormed a bar in the south western city of Mangalore, dragging out and beating women they accused of acting obscenely and "going astray".

The attack led to fears an extremist "Hindu Taliban" was on the rise in India.

Gangadhar Kulkarni, an activist in the group, which is a radical wing of the Hindu nationalist movement, said: "If people celebrate the day despite our warning, then we will definitely attack them."

"Valentine's Day is definitely not Indian culture. We will not allow celebration of that day in any form," added Pramod Mutalik, the group's founder.

MP David Tredinnick #fundie telegraph.co.uk

A Tory MP has claimed NHS over-crowding could be solved by doctors using astrology to treat patients.

David Tredinnick said consulting the stars would "take huge pressure off doctors" and predicts astrology will "have a role to play in healthcare."

The MP for Bosworth in Leicestershire also admitted he had prepared astrological charts for fellow MPs.

In an interview with this month's Astrological Journal, the controversial MP said: "There would be a huge row over resources.

"However, I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors.

"Ninety per cent of pregnant French women use homeopathy.

"Astrology is a useful diagnostic tool enabling us to see strengths and weaknesses via the birth chart.

"And, yes, I have helped fellow MPs. I do foresee that one day astrology will have a role to play in healthcare."

He added that opponents to astrology were "bullies", saying: "Astrology offers self-understanding to people.

"People who oppose what I say are usually bullies who have never studied astrology.

"They never look at it. They are absolutely dismissive. Astrology may not be capable of passing double-blind tests but it is based on thousands of years of observation.

"Hippocrates said, 'A physician without a knowledge of astrology has no right to call himself a physician,'

"Astrology was until modern times part of the tradition of medicine. I think it is a great pity that so many scientists today are dismissive of right-side brain energy, such as intuition.

"People such as Professor Brian Cox, who called astrology 'rubbish' have simply not studied the subject.

"The BBC is quite dismissive of astrology and seeks to promote the science perspective and seems always keen to broadcast criticisms of astrology."

Bizarrely, Tredinnick, 65, who is chairman of the All-Party Group for Integrated Healthcare, went on to say people who opposed astrology were "racist".

He said: "The opposition (to astrology) is based on what I call the SIP formula - superstition, ignorance, and prejudice.

"It tends to be based on superstition, with scientists reacting emotionally, which is always a great irony.

"They are also ignorant, because they never study the subject and just say that it is all to do with what appears in the newspapers, which it is not, and they are deeply prejudiced, and racially prejudiced, which is troubling."

Islamic extremists #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Two Femen protesters were arrested after baring their breasts at a controversial conference near Paris on the role of Muslim women.

According to Inna Shevchenko, a spokeswoman for the feminist protest group, two fundamentalist preachers were discussing the question of “whether wives should be beaten or not” when the activists, aged 25 and 31, ripped off their Arab-style cloaks and jumped on to the stage on Saturday evening. One had the slogan “No one subjugates me” inked across her torso. The other bore the words “I am my own prophet.”

The protesters, aged 25 and 31, grabbed microphones and shouted feminist slogans in French and Arabic before being roughly bundled off the stage by about 15 men and handed over to police. Video footage of the incident shows a man apparently kicking one of the women.

According to Ms Shevchenko, some of the men shouted “dirty whores” and “kill them”. She thanked the police for protecting the two women, who were taken into custody. They were released after being questioned by prosecutors, who said they would continue investigating what happened. Conference organisers said they would press charges against the activists.

They were not alone in taking exception to the presence of fundamentalist preachers at the event, where shopping and cooking were showcased as appropriate “feminine activities”. One speaker at the conference has reportedly posted calls on social networks for women to veil their faces or risk hellfire and sexual assault in the afterlife.

Nearly 6,000 people signed an online petition against the event.

Twitter posts called for the protesters to be stoned or collectively raped.

On Facebook, the conference organisers urged Muslims to “stand together” and attend the final day of the event on Sunday. They said it was “the victim of an anti-Muslim media frenzy.”

magicmoonbeam3 #racist telegraph.co.uk

[On elections in France]

Immigration hit record highs under Sarkozy, he doesn't give a dam about the ethnic French since his own country Israel has an extremely nationalistic government which has vowed to maintain a Jewish majority at any costs.

John Whittle #fundie telegraph.co.uk

(About the LHC)

A big CON-CERN to everyone obviously. But who's being conned eh? The big bang theory is only theory. Why waste so much precious money on theoretical wishy washy wishful thinking, which may or may not prove anything. No wonder there's so much anger in peoples' hearts when there are human beings suffering for lack of essentials. Stinks don't it? If the gnostics want some evidence of creation all they have to is read the first chapter of the Bible. There's far more facts to hold onto in the truth, than there is in theory. How much will this information cost? Nothing. Now that's something to be CON-CERN-ED about...

harry fredericks #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

I question the reality of Anthropogenic climate change, as should all thinking people. Also I oppose wind power 100%. I view windfarms as an assault on the Planet and its peoples. Wind farms are a clumsy and ugly attempt at climate engineering, as thery greatly disrupt the planets "Hadley cells". Too, I must add that a guge number of people are questioning the trojan horse inside which is packaged the one world government our traitors in Parliament refer to as the New World Order. The whole thing is spin, bunkum and lies. I know the Telegraph is overseen by MI6, but how do find the nerve to peddle such tosh?

Daves Shoe #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

He's flipped more times than a pancake. in 1985 there was a trial in Canada for a man named Ernst Zundel. It is the only time that those on both sides of the debate have faced each other. It was a storming victory for those who refute the argument, they proved in court that there has never been a written document discovered, and no bodies ever autopsied proved "death by poisoned gas", or that in all the years not one single scientific study had ever been conducted. Smelling "victory" Irving joined the revisionist camp throwing his considerable knowledge behind them. Then the argument became more sinister, the term "Holocaust denier" was borne, laws changed, people, teachers, scientists, historians, professors, began to be persecuted, their careers destroyed, fined, imprisoned.
Irving then changed his views, now, no-one knows!!!

A Lawyer in Germany was last month jailed for two years without parole, her crime??? In Switzerland she addressed a TV conference giving her opinion on the Holocaust.

Here's the irony, she was a successful lawyer who, years ago defended Ernst Zundel when he was deported from Canada, after reading up on the topic she changed her view and supported his argument, for that she was jailed for 3 years. She was told in court "You can represent your client, but cannot defend him there is no defence for Holocaust denial in Germany". Now she has just been jailed again,

Seven weeks before Germany jailed this 50 year old female Lawyer for giving a speech to an invited audience in Switzerland, Angela Merkel marched through Paris to defend free speech!!!

Don Cowan #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[comment on article "Intelligent people less likely to believe in God"]

I do not consider myself dumb nor highly intelligent either. All I know is God has saved me from death 3 different times in my life. Even the doctors could not figure the miracle cure of my illness out, only I knew for sure. I feel sad for those high IQ's who are going to be begging us dumb and dumber people in heaven "just for a drop of water to quence the burning" they will have to endure. Hey guys, you will be aware of your surroundings and you will feel pain, count on it. Put your brains to work and find Jesus, ASAP!!!

Dieudonné #racist telegraph.co.uk

Dieudonné is currently under formal investigation over comments about a well-known French-Jewish radio presenter, in which he says: “When the wind turns, I don’t think he’ll have time to pack a suitcase. When I hear Patrick Cohen talking, you see, I think of gas chambers. Pity.

[Bolding mine]

NitroFan #racist telegraph.co.uk

Autonomous cars are not the end of driving on the contrary they offer the only chance of safety on the British roads of the future!

Overcrowded roads, drivers with no idea of the UK highway code and comic licences bought in Russia Poland Latvia Lithuania India Pakistan Iraq Afghanistan and all dog piles east along with their uninsured road racer offspring, massive congestion and fuel being taxed to the limit THATS the end of driving.

Mind you once some UK trained traitor in a goat herds hut in Islamistan gets the message from his al qaeda trained imam to "KILL" I have no doubt they will be able to cause all the "smart" cars to run over non believers all over the UK

Yona Metzger and Shlomo Amar #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Abortions delay Messiah's arrival, Israel's chief rabbis say

The high number of abortions in Israel are delaying the arrival of the Messiah, Israel's two chief rabbis have said.

Published: 6:21PM GMT 29 Dec 2009

In a letter to Israel's faithful, Yona Metzger, the Ashkenazi chief rabbi, and his Sephardic colleague Shlomo Amar, said the country's high rate of terminations cause a "delay [of] the messianic redemption," according to a report on the Ynetnews website.

Ismail Berdiyev and Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin #sexist #fundie #psycho telegraph.co.uk

Two prominent religious leaders in Russia have provoked outrage after suggesting female genital mutilation could help reduce sexual promiscuity.

The scandal erupted on Wednesday when Vsevolod Chaplin, a former spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church, rushed to the defence of Ismail Berdiyev, a senior Muslim cleric from Dagestan who said “all women” should be subjected to the practice to eliminate sexual depravity.

Mr Berdiyev, chairman of the Coordination Centre of North Caucasus Muslims, made the controversial comments when asked to comment on a report into the practice published earlier this week.

“All women should be circumcised so there would be no debauchery on earth, so that sexuality is minimised,” Mr Berdiyev, a prominent figure in Dagestan, told a correspondent from Interfax, a Russian news agency.

“The Almighty created woman to bear and raise children,” he added. “[Circumcision] would not affect that. Women would not stop giving birth. But there would be less promiscuity.”

He went on to clarify that although Islam does not prescribe the practice, “it is necessary to reduce female sexuality. If it was done to all women, it would be very good.”

Mr Berdiyev was commenting on a recent study that found female genital mutilation is common in remote mountain villages in Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim region in Russia’s north Caucasus.

Research by the Russian Justice Initiative, an NGO, found that in areas where the practice continues female genital mutilation tends to be carried out on girls up to three years old, without anaesthetic and often in unsanitary conditions.

The researchers said most cases they came across involved removal, or part-removal, of the clitoris and labia.

Archpriest Chaplin, one of the most prominent Orthodox priests in Russia, rushed to the mufti’s defence after outraged headlines splashed across Russian media and social networks.

“What feminist howling!” he wrote in a Facebook post defending the right of minorities to preserve religious traditions.

“Circumcising all women probably isn’t necessary. Orthodox women don’t need it because they are not promiscuous,” he wrote.

“Of course God created women to bear and raise children. Feminism is a lie of the 20th century,” he added.

True Freethinker #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Europe from the 5th to the 18th century was the best and most peaceful period in European history.

I posted another comment earlier detailing the multiple genocides inflicted by Pagan tribes against one another in prehistorical times and later by the Pagan Romans who committed genocide against numerous European nations.

Not one nation in Europe suffered genocide under Christian rule between the 5th and 18th centuries. With the rise of secularism, the British state committed genocide against both the Scots and Irish in the 18th and 19th centuries. The secular French Revolution murdered hundreds of thousands. And of course the 20th century was truly the darkest in human history with both Nazism and Communism.

Gianna Jessen #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[Gianna Jessen claims to be the survivor of a failed saline abortion that her teenage single mother got when she was 7 months pregnant.]

She [Jessen] also remembers a tremendous fear of fire. "I think that was the result of what had happened," she says. "A saline injection abortion effectively burns you in your mother's womb."

[...]

"My mother made a decision that she thought affected only her, and yet every day I bear the result of that decision through my cerebral palsy," she says. "I'm not saying that in condemnation, but in truth.

"It's more comfortable for people to think of abortion as a political decision, or a right. But I am not a right. I am a human being. I am the reality. Gently I put the question, if abortion is about women's rights, then where were mine? There was no radical feminist screaming for my rights on that day."

crosscop #fundie telegraph.co.uk

There is, of course, another angle to this. Halal meat comes from halal slaughterhouses which are staffed by Muslims. In the food outlets, halal and non-halal meat cannot be kept together because of cross contamination - so the non-halal disappears. That means fewer jobs in the industry for non-Muslims and more jobs for Muslims. In addition, some of the profits from halal slaughterhouses goes to the mosque - and from there finances further mosque building and even jihad.
This is not just about the cruelty involved - it is about the never ending Islamification of our country. And it is not just happening here, either - France has the same problem.
We should join Denmark, Sweden and Poland in banning ritual slaughter. That would at least be a start in the fight back.

Bill #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Everyone talks about the 'religious right' as if it's a new phenomenon in the US. Clearly, it isn't. History shows that it isn't new.

The precepts presented by the 'religious right' are those that were held to by the founding fathers and then right down to the sixties.

It's not the right that's new; it's the liberal elite that's hijacked politics in the recent past.

We're just taking back what's rightfully ours!

Mitzi #fundie telegraph.co.uk

[Commenting on an article about Jesus Camp]

What an unfair and biased hack job this article is. It's insulting great swaths of folks across America, and portrays things incorrectly. This film was edited to produce a hostile reaction to the camp, and towards Christianity in general. Check out the producers of this film. You Brits have thrown away Christianity the way you are throwing away your soverignty. Your churches are deserted, almost deserted, or being turned into Mosques. Maybe this writer has a hostility towards Christianity because he's from a different religion. Or an athiest. Or maybe he's gay and can't stand the condemnation. Whatever. Just don't believe this bunk. It's mostly because of Chrtistianity that Americans are the most generous folks in the world. Check out the stats.

JoeU #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Scientific evidence such as polytstrate fossil (fossilised trees going through many rock layers), are evidence for a rapid burial by a catastrophic flood... a tree trunk would not stand around for millions of years waiting to be buried, it would decay quickly.

This is strong scientific evidence against evolution (which says these layers took millions of years to form)
and strong scientific evidence for creation (which says a world wide flood occurred during the days of Noah, as described in the biblical book of Genesis.

[snip]

Let's teach our children the truth.
Let's teach our children scientific facts, and if the facts are in accord with the Bible, ... let's tell our children the truth.

Nazim Ali #conspiracy telegraph.co.uk

An Islamist activist has claimed the Grenfell Tower victims “were murdered” by Zionists who fund the Conservative party in an astonishing outburst now being investigated by police.

Nazim Ali, a director of the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), is accused of exploiting the tragedy during an anti-Israel demonstration in the days after the fire.

The Metropolitan Police said it was now investigating allegations of anti-Semitic comments made during the protest.

Mr Ali, who is managing partner of a private health clinic in west London which charges patients up to £150 for a GP consultation, told the rally on June 18: “As we know in Grenfell, many innocents were murdered by Theresa May’s cronies, many of which are supporters of Zionist ideology.”

In video footage posted online, Mr Ali goes on: “Let us not forget that some of the biggest corporations who were supporting the Conservative Party are Zionists. They are responsible for the murder of the people in Grenfell, in those towers in Grenfell, the Zionist supporters of the Tory Party.”

In another heated outburst, he says: “It is the Zionists who give money to the Tory party, to kill people in high rise blocks.... Careful, careful, careful of those rabbis who belong to the Board of Deputies, who have got blood on their hands.”

rogerhicks #racist telegraph.co.uk

"just 15 per cent in 2012 [disapproved of mixed marriage). It’s a record of change and growing acceptance to be proud of."

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An inevitable consequence of which, however, is that our ancient (white) race of closely related European peoples will disappear into the Melting Pot of a globalised humanity.

What's to be "proud" of in that?

Did my father spend 6 years of his life helping to prevent the imposition of a German master race (despite being pretty Germanic himself), only for us to have a "mixed-race master race" imposed on us instead . . . ??

"Diversity" is Orwellian newspeak for the Global Melting Pot into which it is intended the despised, i.e. self-despising, white race will dissolve and disappear. Which according to state racial ideology, doesn't matter, because race is just a "social construct", only of importance to nasty "racists" like myself.